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Kaspias
02-20-2019, 06:18 PM
His ancestors came Turkey with population exchange between Greece and Turkey. His paternal side is from Thessaloniki city-centre and maternal side is from a nearby village as far as i know.

y-DNA: R-PF7589 (R1b1a2a1b)
mtDNA: H8a


Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.1
2 Baltic 19.58
3 North_Atlantic 19.29
4 West_Med 17.35
5 West_Asian 12.55
6 Red_Sea 1.97
7 Siberian 1.38
8 Oceanian 0.94
9 East_Asian 0.51
10 Sub-Saharan 0.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.04
2 Bulgarian 6.98
3 Romanian 9.43
4 Central_Greek 10.44
5 Italian_Abruzzo 11.08
6 East_Sicilian 11.79
7 Ashkenazi 12.53
8 West_Sicilian 12.55
9 Tuscan 13.08
10 Serbian 13.54
11 South_Italian 14.7
12 North_Italian 16.64
13 Moldavian 19.09
14 Italian_Jewish 19.61
15 Algerian_Jewish 19.8
16 Sephardic_Jewish 19.83
17 Hungarian 21.64
18 Croatian 22.12
19 Tunisian_Jewish 23.16
20 Libyan_Jewish 23.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.2% Bulgarian + 17.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.34
2 65.2% Bulgarian + 34.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.44
3 79.2% Bulgarian + 20.8% Cyprian @ 2.72
4 83.2% Bulgarian + 16.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.75
5 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.86
6 78.4% Bulgarian + 21.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.96
7 83% Bulgarian + 17% Samaritan @ 2.98
8 73.3% Romanian + 26.7% Cyprian @ 3.01
9 75.7% Bulgarian + 24.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.03
10 65% Serbian + 35% Cyprian @ 3.09
11 77.3% Romanian + 22.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.09
12 68.8% South_Italian + 31.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.15
13 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.18
14 57.7% Romanian + 42.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.21
15 78.1% Romanian + 21.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.22
16 76.2% Central_Greek + 23.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.23
17 81.3% Bulgarian + 18.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.26
18 79.2% Bulgarian + 20.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.28
19 69% South_Italian + 31% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.35
20 78% Central_Greek + 22% Belorussian @ 3.35



Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.81
2 North_Sea 15.05
3 Baltic 14.78
4 West_Med 13.63
5 West_Asian 12.55
6 Atlantic 10.57
7 Eastern_Euro 6.31
8 Red_Sea 2.18
9 Siberian 0.94
10 Oceanian 0.79
11 Southeast_Asian 0.21
12 Sub-Saharan 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.39
2 Bulgarian 8.04
3 Greek 8.11
4 Romanian 9.52
5 Central_Greek 10.63
6 Ashkenazi 10.86
7 Italian_Abruzzo 11.63
8 East_Sicilian 11.88
9 Serbian 13.05
10 Tuscan 13.21
11 West_Sicilian 13.76
12 South_Italian 14
13 North_Italian 17
14 Moldavian 17.02
15 Italian_Jewish 17.86
16 Sephardic_Jewish 19.01
17 Hungarian 19.21
18 Algerian_Jewish 19.35
19 Croatian 19.52
20 Austrian 20.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55% Hungarian + 45% Cyprian @ 4.26
2 90.9% Greek_Thessaly + 9.1% Lithuanian @ 4.29
3 89.5% Greek_Thessaly + 10.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.32
4 89.7% Greek_Thessaly + 10.3% Southwest_Russian @ 4.32
5 91.1% Greek_Thessaly + 8.9% Estonian @ 4.39
6 91% Greek_Thessaly + 9% Erzya @ 4.4
7 90.6% Greek_Thessaly + 9.4% Belorussian @ 4.4
8 90.2% Greek_Thessaly + 9.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.47
9 89% Greek_Thessaly + 11% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.51
10 91.2% Greek_Thessaly + 8.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.52
11 91.2% Greek_Thessaly + 8.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.54
12 71.4% Central_Greek + 28.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.54
13 89.6% Greek_Thessaly + 10.4% Ukrainian @ 4.54
14 76.9% Central_Greek + 23.1% Estonian @ 4.55
15 89.6% Greek_Thessaly + 10.4% South_Polish @ 4.55
16 91.8% Greek_Thessaly + 8.2% La_Brana-1 @ 4.59
17 91.6% Greek_Thessaly + 8.4% East_Finnish @ 4.59
18 90.8% Greek_Thessaly + 9.2% Polish @ 4.61
19 77.4% Central_Greek + 22.6% Lithuanian @ 4.61
20 91.5% Greek_Thessaly + 8.5% Finnish @ 4.62


PuntDNAL K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 33.79
2 NE_European 33.61
3 Caucasian 21.18
4 SW_Asian 7.59
5 E_Asian 1.6
6 Wht_Nile_River 0.73
7 Horn_Of_Africa 0.56
8 S_African 0.42
9 Siberian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.21
11 Beringian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 3.49
2 Greek_Central 5.24
3 Albanian 5.93
4 Tuscan 6.94
5 Montenegrin 7.04
6 Bulgarian 7.78
7 Italian 7.89
8 Romanian 8.41
9 Macedonian 9.06
10 Bosnian 10.83
11 Ashkenazy_Jew 13.77
12 Serbian 14.99
13 Sicilian 15.15
14 Brazilian 16.07
15 Portuguese 16.39
16 Spaniard 16.79
17 Sephardic_Jew 17.67
18 French 18.37
19 Croatian 20.26
20 South_German 20.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% Serbian + 33.9% Cypriot @ 1.81
2 56.6% Hungarian + 43.4% Cypriot @ 1.95
3 55.2% Slovenian + 44.8% Cypriot @ 2.12
4 59% Croatian + 41% Cypriot @ 2.12
5 55.5% Austrian + 44.5% Cypriot @ 2.13
6 80.6% Romanian + 19.4% Assyrian @ 2.13
7 50.6% Cypriot + 49.4% Swedish @ 2.15
8 76.7% Macedonian + 23.3% Cypriot @ 2.16
9 69% Greek_Central + 31% Bosnian @ 2.17
10 79.5% Macedonian + 20.5% Druze @ 2.2
11 73.2% Bosnian + 26.8% Cypriot @ 2.21
12 52.7% North_German + 47.3% Cypriot @ 2.21
13 79.8% Greek_Thessaly + 20.2% Bosnian @ 2.23
14 55.1% Irish + 44.9% Cypriot @ 2.27
15 77.2% Romanian + 22.8% Turk_Kayseri @ 2.28
16 88.6% Greek_Central + 11.4% Mordovian @ 2.29
17 52.8% Cypriot + 47.2% Polish @ 2.3
18 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Chuvash @ 2.31
19 82% Bulgarian + 18% Assyrian @ 2.32
20 83.7% Montenegrin + 16.3% Azerbaijani @ 2.32



MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.86
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 24.53
3 European_Early_Farmers 20.19
4 Near_East 6.94
5 South_Central_Asian 4.49
6 Austronesian 1.18
7 Melano_Polynesian 0.92
8 East_African 0.88
9 Paleo_Siberian 0.86
10 East_Siberian 0.84
11 Ancestral_Altaic 0.47
12 South_Indian 0.44
13 Archaic_Human 0.28
14 North_African 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 4.38
2 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 4.42
3 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 5.16
4 Macedonian ( ) 5.26
5 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 5.53
6 Bulgarian ( ) 5.64
7 Gagauz ( ) 5.85
8 Central_Greek ( ) 5.9
9 Greek_Northwest ( ) 6.27
10 Kosovar ( ) 6.98
11 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.56
12 Ashkenazi ( ) 7.69
13 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 7.77
14 Montenegrian ( ) 7.79
15 Romanian_Jew ( ) 7.85
16 Greek ( ) 8.15
17 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 8.66
18 Romanian ( ) 8.98
19 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 9.05
20 Greek_Athens ( ) 9.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.7% Macedonian ( ) + 29.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.53
2 53.7% Macedonian ( ) + 46.3% Central_Greek ( ) @ 2.71
3 52.2% Gagauz ( ) + 47.8% Greek_Northwest ( ) @ 2.76
4 53.1% Croat ( ) + 46.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.77
5 79.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 20.1% Kashub ( ) @ 2.78
6 53.8% Serb_BH ( ) + 46.2% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.79
7 77.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 22.1% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 2.8
8 78.3% Central_Greek ( ) + 21.7% Slovak ( ) @ 2.8
9 85.3% Central_Greek ( ) + 14.7% Estonian ( ) @ 2.81
10 60.3% Montenegrian ( ) + 39.7% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.81
11 80.5% Central_Greek ( ) + 19.5% Belarusian_West ( ) @ 2.81
12 80.3% Central_Greek ( ) + 19.7% Sorb ( ) @ 2.82
13 84.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 15.1% Latvian ( ) @ 2.83
14 83% Central_Greek ( ) + 17% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 2.85
15 74.4% Macedonian ( ) + 25.6% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 2.85
16 83.3% Central_Greek ( ) + 16.7% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 2.86
17 84.1% Central_Greek ( ) + 15.9% Balt ( ) @ 2.86
18 64.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 35.2% Serb_BH ( ) @ 2.86
19 85.5% Central_Greek ( ) + 14.5% Erzya ( ) @ 2.87
20 94.2% Gagauz ( ) + 5.8% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.87



MDLP K16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.03
2 Neolithic 26.19
3 NorthEastEuropean 16.11
4 Steppe 15.93
5 NearEast 3.74
6 Arctic 0.64
7 SouthEastAsian 0.49
8 Siberian 0.47
9 Oceanic 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Thessaloniki) 3.77
2 Kosovar (Kosovo) 3.96
3 Albanian (Albania) 3.96
4 Greek (Greece) 4.02
5 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 4.58
6 Greek (Peloponnes) 5.06
7 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 5.13
8 Macedonian (Macedonia) 5.73
9 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 5.95
10 Greek (Macedonia) 5.95
11 Romanian (Romania) 7.03
12 Italian (Abruzzo) 7.1
13 Romanian (Gorj) 7.41
14 Italian (Tuscany) 7.5
15 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 7.97
16 Italian (NorthIitaly) 8.05
17 Greek (Athens) 8.37
18 Romanian (Apuseni) 8.68
19 Serbian (Serbia) 8.98
20 Italian (Friul) 9.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.2% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 39.8% Greek (Athens) @ 2.01
2 67.2% Greek (Greece) + 32.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 2.07
3 65.1% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 34.9% Greek (Greece) @ 2.07
4 69.6% Greek (Athens) + 30.4% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 2.1
5 69.9% Greek (Athens) + 30.1% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.1
6 63.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 36.6% Greek (Athens) @ 2.13
7 68.4% Greek (Greece) + 31.6% English (Kent) @ 2.14
8 65.1% Greek (Greece) + 34.9% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 2.15
9 70.8% Greek (Greece) + 29.2% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.15
10 70.3% Greek (Greece) + 29.7% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.16
11 68.2% Greek (Athens) + 31.8% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 2.17
12 67.2% Greek (Greece) + 32.8% Irish (Connacht) @ 2.18
13 69.8% Greek (Greece) + 30.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.2
14 61.8% Greek (Athens) + 38.2% Croat (Croatia) @ 2.22
15 71.5% Greek (Greece) + 28.5% Icelandic (Iceland) @ 2.24
16 69.1% Greek (Athens) + 30.9% Slovak (Slovakia) @ 2.3
17 51.9% Greek (Athens) + 48.1% Serbian (Serbia) @ 2.3
18 73.4% Greek (Athens) + 26.6% Swede (Sweden) @ 2.31
19 66.1% Greek (Greece) + 33.9% French (WestFrance) @ 2.32
20 71.2% Greek (Athens) + 28.8% Sorb (Lusatia) @ 2.32
CommonSense
02-20-2019, 06:21 PM
This guy has hardly any Turkish ancestry. His results are that of a typical Greco-Albanian aka Southern Balkanite.
Kaspias
02-20-2019, 06:23 PM
This guy has hardly any Turkish ancestry. His results are that of a typical Greco-Albanian aka Southern Balkanite.

I can't remember certainly but i think he mentioned his paternal side was bilingual Turkish-Greek and maternal side only could speak Turkish.
Marmara
02-20-2019, 06:24 PM
Assimilated.
Kaspias
02-20-2019, 06:31 PM
Assimilated.

Yeah. I have ever seen people who have literally 0% East Eurasian. This guy has some that indicates possibly Turkic ancestry.
Bosniensis
02-20-2019, 06:33 PM
I can't remember certainly but i think he mentioned his paternal side was bilingual Turkish-Greek and maternal side only could speak Turkish.

Well that was a common thing for Anatolian and Greek converts to speak Turkish and Greek.
Kaspias
02-20-2019, 06:36 PM
Well that was a common thing for Anatolian and Greek converts to speak Turkish and Greek.

I think this convert was not recent so they were already identify themselves as Turk but also they were speaking Greek in order to sustain their social life since they live in Thessaloniki which is one of the most cosmopolit cities of the era. Maternal side who lives in village were only speaking Turkish.
Bosniensis
02-20-2019, 06:38 PM
I think this convert was not recent so they were already identify themselves as Turk but also they were speaking Greek in order to sustain their social life since they live in Thessaloniki which is one of the most cosmopolit cities of the era. Maternal side who lives in village were only speaking Turkish.

Well "Turk" today is like "American" it gives little to nothing about persons ancestry. Turkey is a big and diverse country hosting many cultures and peoples of various backgrounds.
He is Turk by Attaturk standards of course.
Kaspias
02-20-2019, 06:44 PM
Well "Turk" today is like "American" it gives little to nothing about persons ancestry. Turkey is a big and diverse country hosting many cultures and peoples of various backgrounds.
He is Turk by Attaturk standards of course.

Ataturk standards should be ideal standard for every Turkish imo. I want to add he is still more Turk than some places of Eastern Anatolia if we look terms of genetic although i believe genetic don't have any affect to Turkish identity.
Marmara
02-20-2019, 06:46 PM
Yeah. I have ever seen people who have literally 0% East Eurasian. This guy has some that indicates possibly Turkic ancestry.

Yeah, must be from his maternal side. If his father's family spoke Greek then they were Greek converts.
Voskos
02-20-2019, 06:50 PM
The bad news, he's not a Turk. The good news, he's not a Turk.
Bosniensis
02-20-2019, 06:54 PM
Yeah, must be from his maternal side. If his father's family spoke Greek then they were Greek converts.

Turks should better stay away from DNA tests, Turks are so diverse it's scary. Most diverse.
Kaspias
02-20-2019, 07:01 PM
Turks should better stay away from DNA tests, Turks are so diverse it's scary. Most diverse.

Hahaha no lol. Turks carry their Turkic heritage. But it is the truth there are a few assimilated ones. A typical Turk shouldn't stay away from DNA test as contrary they should DNA test to see his Turkic heritage. Knowing their conqueror ancestors can be priceless for them. Also it is great experience for everyone. I agree with you about their diversity.
Ryuk
02-20-2019, 07:02 PM
Turks should better stay away from DNA tests, Turks are so diverse it's scary. Most diverse.

No,nearly all turks(except east Black Sea region) have east asian ancestry,lowest %3, highest%20, mostly %8-15
Bosniensis
02-20-2019, 07:02 PM
The bad news, he's not a Turk. The good news, he's not a Turk.

Does it pain Greeks to see Greek among Turks, we don't have any Romanians in Turkey xD xD
xripkan
02-20-2019, 07:09 PM
Islamized Greek with south Slavic admixture. His haplogroup is Italian?
Leto
02-20-2019, 07:09 PM
Yeah. I have ever seen people who have literally 0% East Eurasian. This guy has some that indicates possibly Turkic ancestry.
Post Dod K12b.
Kaspias
02-20-2019, 07:14 PM
Post Dod K12b.

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Bornoz
02-20-2019, 07:19 PM
Genetik testler yasaklansın abi. Bu ne ya?
Kaspias
02-20-2019, 07:19 PM
Islamized Greek with south Slavic admixture. His haplogroup is Italian?

West Asian afaik. I'm not sure
karakartal
02-20-2019, 09:05 PM
He is most western shifted than me.
Kaspias
02-20-2019, 09:08 PM
He is most western shifted than me.Because your one side is from Istanbul.
lonewolfcypriot
02-20-2019, 09:21 PM
This guys East Eurasian percentage is the same as mine.
karakartal
02-20-2019, 09:39 PM
How can i find my East Eurasian percentage?
dosas
02-21-2019, 06:52 AM
Does it pain Greeks to see Greek among Turks, we don't have any Romanians in Turkey xD xD

Why would it 'pain us'? We dgaf, if anything it just confirms what we know from history as fact.
Thanas Django
02-21-2019, 06:56 AM
Does it pain Greeks to see Greek among Turks, we don't have any Romanians in Turkey xD xD

Not really
Kamal900
02-21-2019, 06:57 AM
Nothing really Turkic about him. Mostly a Turkified native of the Balkans.
Leto
02-21-2019, 07:23 AM
Nothing really Turkic about him. Mostly a Turkified native of the Balkans.
Remember the golden rule of TA: unless you're similar to Yakuts and Tuvans, you are not Turkic! :lol:
Kaspias
02-21-2019, 08:25 AM
Nothing really Turkic about him. Mostly a Turkified native of the Balkans.

Since 2% East Eurasian is not common among Greeks, he comes from at least one Turkic line that makes him not assimilated Greek but legit Balkan Turk. It is already known Turks mixed with natives so nothing is weird here.
archangel
02-21-2019, 09:02 PM
pretty accurate
Impaler
02-21-2019, 09:08 PM
How much Mongoloid should someone score to be considered Turk? Let's say atleast 1/4.
Bornoz
02-21-2019, 09:10 PM
How much Mongoloid should someone score to be considered Turk? Let's say atleast 1/4.

It should be visible. Like at least 3%
You can't find anybody with 25% Mongoloid in Turkey btw.
Kaspias
02-21-2019, 09:12 PM
How much Mongoloid should someone score to be considered Turk? Let's say atleast 1/4.

There is no such a criteria. 1/4 is Central Asian range and not a realistic value.
Impaler
02-21-2019, 09:13 PM
There is no such a criteria. 1/4 is Central Asian range and not a realistic value.

Ok, let's say someone who is only half Turkish and half European. How much would score?
Bornoz
02-21-2019, 09:17 PM
Ok, let's say someone who is only half Turkish and half European. How much would score?

If we assume that the European parent is 0% Mongoloid, it would be as about 4-5% on average. Can be higher or lower too for sure. Depending on person and region
Kaspias
02-21-2019, 09:23 PM
Ok, let's say someone who is only half Turkish and half European. How much would score?

Turkish doesn't mean anything solely. Changing region to region and type of Turkic ancestry. Western Turkey range probably 5% to 20% and most Turkic region afaik. Central Turkey is around 10-15%. Eastern Turkey less and sometimes zero.