The United Baltic Federation

[Karl der Große]

Since my thread was deleted by a totalitarian chauvinist Finnic powa mod. :coffee:

So what is your opinion on the future of the Baltic Countries, should they create as a constructive alliance between as that of the Nordic countries?

They tried it in 30s of the 20th century, should try again? The idea is rather interesting.
Baltic Entente http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Entente

[Eldritch]

You really are hellbent on making an idiot of yourself, aren't you? Fine. See if I care.

[Karl der Große]

You really are hellbent on making an idiot of yourself, aren't you? Fine. See if I care.

Since there's an official Nordic Estonia spammer on this board I want be the Baltic Estonia spammer at least I'll be more realistic. :coffee: And do not worry I'll bring credible historical facts.

[Wyn]

I believe they should entertain joining the Bundesrepublik Deutschland, each of them seeking Free State status.

Germany expands (the German Christmas comes extra-early ;)) and the Estonians/Balts get the right to claim allegiance to a slightly better football team than the ones they presently have to make do with. Everybody wins.

[Talvi]

Not happening any time in the near future. Or ever.

[Karl der Große]

http://www.upload.ee/image/1236600/Untitled-1.png

[Talvi]

Since there's an official Nordic Estonia spammer on this board I want be the Baltic Estonia spammer at least I'll be more realistic. :coffee: And do not worry I'll bring credible historical facts.

Sorry, you are like 5 people too late.

And thanks for ruining things more for all the other Estonians.

[Peerkons]

I don't think its ever going to happen, unfortunately.
In 1930's it failed because Lithuania had argument with Poland about Viļņa region, so Lithuanians were kind of allies with soviets, because Poles were their enemies.
Estonia was kind of allies with nazis, because their enemies were soviets.
Latvia was in the middle of all this.
Even nowadays there isn't any alliance or brothership but really big rivalry between each state.
If Lithuania and Estonia wouldn't had fucked up the Baltic Entente idea, we could have fought against sovietic hordes and not pathetically surrender.

[Karl der Große]

An interesting historical fact of region. It has existed for some time sponsored by the deceased German Empire between 1917/1918. Which few know even the Baltics themselves.



Baltic Duchy (1918)

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/b/bal_duke.gif



At the end of the First World War there were plans to create Baltic Duchy on the lands of Estonia and Latvia. This had to be governed by Baltic Germans and would be in personal union with Germany. Head of the state would have been duke of Mecklenburg - Adolf Friedrich.

On 5 November, 1918 temporary government under regent-council was created to prime the declaration of duchy. But with the beginning of revolution in Germany plans were stopped. 25 December regent-council stopped the action.

Read more here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Baltic_Duchy

[Peerkons]

Thank god, your asses were kicked with the help of eesti pois'es

[Inese]

http://www.upload.ee/image/1236600/Untitled-1.png
No it would make no sense ---- Lithuanians dont understand Latvians, Latvians dont understand Estonians, Estonians dont understand Latvians and Lithuanians, Finns have problems understanding Estonian and dont understand Latvian or Lithuanian and Estonians have problems understanding Latvians. And the culture is different too.

[Mordid]

No it would make no sense ---- Lithuanians dont understand Latvians, Latvians dont understand Estonians, Estonians dont understand Latvians and Lithuanians, Finns have problems understanding Estonian and dont understand Latvian or Lithuanian and Estonians have problems understanding Latvians. And the culture is different too.

Come on, they can't be that different.

[Äike]

No it would make no sense ---- Lithuanians dont understand Latvians, Latvians dont understand Estonians, Estonians dont understand Latvians and Lithuanians, Finns have problems understanding Estonian and dont understand Latvian or Lithuanian and Estonians have problems understanding Latvians. And the culture is different too.

If anything will ever work, then it is this:

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/9553/baltofinnicrepublicbyfe.png

The Balts and the Finnic people don't have anything in common, sadly.


Come on, they can't be that different.

A Lithuanian is more similar to a Pole or a Slovak than to an Estonian. We belong into 2 completely different ethno-cultural groups.

[Inese]

Come on, they can't be that different.
Look at Karl he is right: Estonian and Finnish people belong more together but they have a language problem too. And the same problem is between Lithuanians and Latvians, plus that Lithuanians have some Polish influence which Latvia hasnt. There are not enough connection points for a Baltic union and not enough common thinking!

[Peerkons]

Nu cmon, shitaa uzmest bralukas?
Visu var, ja labi grib.

[Mordid]

Look at Karl he is right: Estonian and Finnish people belong more together but they have a language problem too. And the same problem is between Lithuanians and Latvians, plus that Lithuanians have some Polish influence which Latvia hasnt. There are not enough connection points for a Baltic union and not enough common thinking!

Lithuanians might have Polish influence, but it doesn't mean they are related to Poles.

[The Lawspeaker]

Lithuanians might have Polish influence, but it doesn't mean they are related to Poles.
Actually.. they have been there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth) before.

[Mordid]

Actually.. they have been there (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth) before.

At least, not anymore.

[The Lawspeaker]

At least, not anymore.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Coat_of_Arms_of_the_Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth.svg
It can be (partially) restored.

[Mordid]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Coat_of_Arms_of_the_Polish-Lithuanian_Commonwealth.svg
It can be (partially) restored.


Yeah, sure, whatever, but still, they aren't related to Poles. ;)

[The Lawspeaker]

Yeah, sure, whatever, but still, they aren't related to Poles. ;)
While Lithuania themselves seems to worship the very ground you people walk on.. so. Why not do it ?

[Mordid]

While Lithuania themselves seems to worship the very ground you people walk on.. so. Why not do it ?


I thought they hate Poles. :confused:

[The Lawspeaker]

I thought they hate Poles. :confused:
Since when ? Since Lithuania and Poland seems to have very good ties.

[Mordid]

Since when ? Since Lithuania and Poland seems to have very good ties.

Well, I dont know, but I've heard somewhere that Lithuanians hate Poles because Poles are Slavic.

[The Lawspeaker]

Well, I dont know, but I've heard somewhere that Lithuanians hate Poles because Poles are Slavic.
That sucks then. Then the Poles have no one in this world. Another thing that Poland and France have in common then: everybody hates France.

[Mordid]

That sucks then. Then the Poles have no one in this world. Another thing that Poland and France have in common then: everybody hates France.

Life is a life, I guess.

[Peerkons]

While Lithuania themselves seems to worship the very ground you people walk on.. so. Why not do it ?


http://forum.ntreev.net/pangya/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/14/8666.Trolling.jpg

[The Lawspeaker]

http://forum.ntreev.net/pangya/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/14/8666.Trolling.jpg
:p

[The Ripper]

Which few know even the Baltics themselves.


I'm going to assume this means "Which few Baltics know".

What makes you think that? It is quite closely tied to at least Estonian indpendence history, I'm guessing quite a few Estonians are aware that the Germans were planning to enslave them again. ;)

[Talvi]

I'm going to assume this means "Which few Baltics know".

What makes you think that? It is quite closely tied to at least Estonian indpendence history, I'm guessing quite a few Estonians are aware that the Germans were planning to enslave them again. ;)

Umm Well since i cant see the whole topic any more and am definitely not bothered to go and look I have no ideas what I was talking about.

[The Ripper]

Umm Well since i cant see the whole topic any more and am definitely not bothered to go and look I have no ideas what I was talking about.

Talvi, have you heard of Balti Hertsogiriik?

[The Ripper]

I don't think its ever going to happen, unfortunately.
In 1930's it failed because Lithuania had argument with Poland about Viļņa region, so Lithuanians were kind of allies with soviets, because Poles were their enemies.
Estonia was kind of allies with nazis, because their enemies were soviets.
Latvia was in the middle of all this.
Even nowadays there isn't any alliance or brothership but really big rivalry between each state.
If Lithuania and Estonia wouldn't had fucked up the Baltic Entente idea, we could have fought against sovietic hordes and not pathetically surrender.

All of the "Edge States," as they are/were called in Finnish at least, should have formed military co-operation agreements. The Nazis and Soviets took us out, piecemeal. Easy to say in hindsight but I think a military alliance between Finland, the Baltic states and Poland would have done much to deter the aims of the M-R pact.

[Peerkons]

All of the "Edge States," as they are/were called in Finnish at least, should have formed military co-operation agreements. The Nazis and Soviets took us out, piecemeal. Easy to say in hindsight but I think a military alliance between Finland, the Baltic states and Poland would have done much to deter the aims of the M-R pact.

Exactly my thoughts!
Unfortunately it is too late. That could have been good.

[Talvi]

Talvi, have you heard of Balti Hertsogiriik?

What I meant was Im not sure what was the reason you were quoting me and what I was talking about in the quote at the time, I cant find it so I cant reply properly either.



And Ill be honest, I have not heard of it because it is of no real importance to Estonians. :P

[The Ripper]

What I meant was Im not sure what was the reason you were quoting me and what I was talking about in the quote at the time, I cant find it so I cant reply properly either.

I thought I was quoting ze German Karl.


And Ill be honest, I have not heard of it because it is of no real importance to Estonians. :P

And I who thought every Estonian had seen Nimed marmortahvlil. ;)

[laurifederal]

my reply will be simple (i'm new user)
and because i was unable (did not know) about this 6 months ago, then it is not a shame

USB ehk United States of Baltics!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/united-states-of-baltic-est-eng-1951579/1/20