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Peterski
02-22-2019, 10:30 AM
I have uploaded this sample to GEDmatch Genesis:

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#10/58.1765/-6.7165

I2655 Outer Hebrides ca. 1200 BC, Y-DNA I2a2a1a1a1, mtDNA H6a1b2:

He had Megalithic British Y-DNA, paternally he was very native to Britain:

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml

"I2a2a1 (M284+)
I2-M284 occurs almost exclusively in Britain and Ireland, but has also been found in Portugal, France, Germany and Norway. It is a very old haplogroup, originating some 10,000 years ago and is split in two subclades Y10626 and L1195, which are each about 7,000 years old. Present-day carriers share a common ancestor who lived approximately 5,500 to 6,000 years ago."

Despite having Neolithic British Y-DNA, autosomally he was mostly Beaker:

GEDmatch Genesis kit number - HB2453430

Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 36.47
2 North_Sea 32.13
3 Eastern_Euro 12.69
4 Baltic 10.2
5 West_Med 5.49
6 West_Asian 2.67
7 Red_Sea 0.22
8 South_Asian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 7.58
2 West_Scottish 7.69
3 Southeast_English 8.23
4 Danish 8.84
5 North_German 9.14
6 Southwest_English 9.68
7 North_Dutch 10.13
8 Orcadian 10.19
9 South_Dutch 11.29
10 Norwegian 13.28
11 West_Norwegian 13.92
12 Swedish 14.3
13 North_Swedish 15.15
14 West_German 15.3
15 French 15.68
16 East_German 16.09
17 Southwest_Finnish 17.08
18 Austrian 18.24
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.85
20 Hungarian 21.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.4% West_Scottish + 13.6% French_Basque @ 6.67
2 88.4% Irish + 11.6% French_Basque @ 6.87
3 81.5% Danish + 18.5% French_Basque @ 6.91
4 89.5% West_Scottish + 10.5% Southwest_French @ 7.3
5 91.1% West_Scottish + 8.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 7.38
6 92.5% Irish + 7.5% Southwest_French @ 7.39
7 96.9% Irish + 3.1% Mari @ 7.43
8 93.7% Irish + 6.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 7.43
9 91.9% West_Scottish + 8.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 7.44
10 91.9% West_Scottish + 8.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.44
11 96.7% Irish + 3.3% Chuvash @ 7.45
12 90.1% West_Scottish + 9.9% Austrian @ 7.47
13 95.6% Irish + 4.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 7.47
14 95.5% Irish + 4.5% Estonian_Polish @ 7.47
15 93.8% West_Scottish + 6.2% Estonian_Polish @ 7.47
16 94.6% Irish + 5.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.47
17 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 7.48
18 93.7% West_Scottish + 6.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 7.48
19 95.6% Irish + 4.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 7.49
20 93.5% West_Scottish + 6.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.5

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 8.860613

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% French_Basque +25% West_Scottish @ 8.181540

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 7.983622
2 French_Basque + North_Swedish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 8.041056
3 French_Basque + Irish + North_Swedish + West_Scottish @ 8.159496
4 French_Basque + Irish + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @ 8.167149
5 French_Basque + Orcadian + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @ 8.178106
6 Danish + Danish + French_Basque + West_Scottish @ 8.181540
7 Danish + French_Basque + North_Swedish + West_Scottish @ 8.202380
8 Danish + Danish + Danish + French_Basque @ 8.212478
9 Danish + French_Basque + Southwest_Finnish + West_Scottish @ 8.251053
10 Danish + French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 8.257025
11 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + North_Swedish @ 8.293187
12 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + North_Swedish @ 8.314810
13 Danish + Danish + French_Basque + Irish @ 8.319668
14 French_Basque + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_Finnish @ 8.335156
15 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Southwest_Finnish @ 8.364717
16 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + West_Scottish @ 8.399045
17 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Southwest_Finnish @ 8.426358
18 Danish + French_Basque + Orcadian + Southwest_Finnish @ 8.431761
19 Danish + French_Basque + North_German + West_Scottish @ 8.433647
20 French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 8.445260

Eurogenes K36:

113902 SNPs used in this evaluation

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.87 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.08 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.48 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.13 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 9.15 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.66 Pct
French 6.38 Pct
Iberian 16.59 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.33 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 19.86 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.14 Pct
North_Sea 15.34 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

Similarity Map:

https://i.imgur.com/iyqp4mq.png

Peterski
02-22-2019, 11:00 AM
MDLP K23b, a lot of Scottish Argyll in the results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 39.39
2 European_Early_Farmers 29.09
3 Caucasian 17.8
4 South_Central_Asian 7.18
5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.77
6 Amerindian 0.76
7 Near_East 0.57
8 East_Siberian 0.28
9 Arctic 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CEU ( ) 2.43
2 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 2.89
3 British ( ) 3.17
4 Norwegian_West ( ) 3.26
5 North_European ( ) 3.4
6 Welsh ( ) 3.41
7 Icelandic ( ) 3.49
8 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 3.95
9 Orcadian ( ) 4.36
10 English ( ) 4.79
11 Norwegian_East ( ) 4.95
12 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 5.03
13 Irish ( ) 5.42
14 Belgian ( ) 7.53
15 Frisian ( ) 7.54
16 Swede ( ) 7.58
17 Dane ( ) 8.84
18 Dutch ( ) 8.95
19 French ( ) 9.61
20 North_German ( ) 10.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.3% Croat ( ) @ 0.99
2 91.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.3% Serb_BH ( ) @ 1
3 89.3% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 10.7% Slovenian ( ) @ 1.01
4 92% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8% Croat_BH ( ) @ 1.01
5 81.4% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 18.6% South_German ( ) @ 1.03
6 91.8% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.2% Bosnian ( ) @ 1.03
7 89.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 10.9% Hungarian ( ) @ 1.03
8 86.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 13.1% Austrian ( ) @ 1.04
9 91.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.9% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 1.06
10 89.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 10.1% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 1.08
11 91.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.1% Montenegrian ( ) @ 1.08
12 79.6% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 20.4% North_German ( ) @ 1.08
13 92.5% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 7.5% Macedonian ( ) @ 1.11
14 66.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 33.3% Irish ( ) @ 1.14
15 93.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 6.1% Gagauz ( ) @ 1.16
16 92.5% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 7.5% Bulgarian ( ) @ 1.17
17 77.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 22.9% Dutch ( ) @ 1.18
18 73.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 26.1% Frisian ( ) @ 1.18
19 90.2% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 9.8% Czech ( ) @ 1.19
20 83.2% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 16.8% German-Volga ( ) @ 1.21

Grace O'Malley
02-22-2019, 11:21 AM
MDLP K23b, a lot of Scottish Argyll in the results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 39.39
2 European_Early_Farmers 29.09
3 Caucasian 17.8
4 South_Central_Asian 7.18
5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.77
6 Amerindian 0.76
7 Near_East 0.57
8 East_Siberian 0.28
9 Arctic 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 CEU ( ) 2.43
2 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 2.89
3 British ( ) 3.17
4 Norwegian_West ( ) 3.26
5 North_European ( ) 3.4
6 Welsh ( ) 3.41
7 Icelandic ( ) 3.49
8 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 3.95
9 Orcadian ( ) 4.36
10 English ( ) 4.79
11 Norwegian_East ( ) 4.95
12 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 5.03
13 Irish ( ) 5.42
14 Belgian ( ) 7.53
15 Frisian ( ) 7.54
16 Swede ( ) 7.58
17 Dane ( ) 8.84
18 Dutch ( ) 8.95
19 French ( ) 9.61
20 North_German ( ) 10.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.3% Croat ( ) @ 0.99
2 91.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.3% Serb_BH ( ) @ 1
3 89.3% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 10.7% Slovenian ( ) @ 1.01
4 92% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8% Croat_BH ( ) @ 1.01
5 81.4% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 18.6% South_German ( ) @ 1.03
6 91.8% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.2% Bosnian ( ) @ 1.03
7 89.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 10.9% Hungarian ( ) @ 1.03
8 86.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 13.1% Austrian ( ) @ 1.04
9 91.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.9% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 1.06
10 89.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 10.1% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 1.08
11 91.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 8.1% Montenegrian ( ) @ 1.08
12 79.6% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 20.4% North_German ( ) @ 1.08
13 92.5% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 7.5% Macedonian ( ) @ 1.11
14 66.7% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 33.3% Irish ( ) @ 1.14
15 93.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 6.1% Gagauz ( ) @ 1.16
16 92.5% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 7.5% Bulgarian ( ) @ 1.17
17 77.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 22.9% Dutch ( ) @ 1.18
18 73.9% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 26.1% Frisian ( ) @ 1.18
19 90.2% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 9.8% Czech ( ) @ 1.19
20 83.2% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 16.8% German-Volga ( ) @ 1.21

Pretty much similar to moderns. This is my brother's K23b for comparison purposes. It would be interesting to see what Graham's or the other Scot who posts on here get

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 37.62
2 European_Early_Farmers 26.6
3 Caucasian 21.61
4 South_Central_Asian 7.29
5 Ancestral_Altaic 5.26
6 South_Indian 0.65
7 Amerindian 0.49
8 North_African 0.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish ( ) 2.33
2 Dutch ( ) 2.68
3 Frisian ( ) 2.68
4 Belgian ( ) 3.58
5 English ( ) 3.71
6 North_German ( ) 5.28
7 North_European ( ) 5.35
8 Norwegian_East ( ) 5.46
9 Dane ( ) 5.52
10 Swede ( ) 5.84
11 South_German ( ) 5.97
12 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 6.43
13 German-Volga ( ) 6.45
14 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 6.94
15 CEU ( ) 7.35
16 British ( ) 7.95
17 Welsh ( ) 8.05
18 Norwegian_West ( ) 8.23
19 Icelandic ( ) 9.06
20 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 9.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.7% Irish ( ) + 46.3% Dutch ( ) @ 0.67
2 91.7% Irish ( ) + 8.3% Belarusian-East ( ) @ 0.76
3 91.9% Irish ( ) + 8.1% Russian_South ( ) @ 0.79
4 91.4% Irish ( ) + 8.6% Russian-West ( ) @ 0.81
5 92.8% Irish ( ) + 7.2% Mordovian ( ) @ 0.82
6 92% Irish ( ) + 8% Ukrainian_Center ( ) @ 0.83
7 92.1% Irish ( ) + 7.9% Ukrainian_East ( ) @ 0.83
8 91.4% Irish ( ) + 8.6% Russian_North ( ) @ 0.84
9 91.4% Irish ( ) + 8.6% Moksha ( ) @ 0.84
10 92.4% Irish ( ) + 7.6% Ukrainian ( ) @ 0.86
11 91.7% Irish ( ) + 8.3% Belarusian_West ( ) @ 0.86
12 91.2% Irish ( ) + 8.8% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 0.86
13 92.4% Irish ( ) + 7.6% Don_cossack ( ) @ 0.87
14 93.2% Irish ( ) + 6.8% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 0.87
15 93.2% Irish ( ) + 6.8% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 0.87
16 91.1% Irish ( ) + 8.9% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 0.88
17 89.7% Irish ( ) + 10.3% Kashub ( ) @ 0.88
18 92.9% Irish ( ) + 7.1% Belarusian ( ) @ 0.88
19 92.7% Irish ( ) + 7.3% Pole ( ) @ 0.89
20 93.5% Irish ( ) + 6.5% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 0.91

There really doesn't appear to be much differences.

Token
02-22-2019, 11:33 AM
The southern shift can't be explained by a Neolithic relict, MBA Scotland shows clear geneflow from Central Europe in both formal methods and G25.

Circa 1200BC is when Urnfield began penetrating Britain and fortified settlements started to be built in Britain's coast, probably to restrain the entrance of Celts from Continental Europe. This was a period of marked violence, burned round house (native British) settlements are abundant and protective Bronze gears and collared urns starts appearing all over the isles. Celtic admixture also becomes evident.

Token
02-22-2019, 11:53 AM
Double post.