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TheOldNorth
02-23-2019, 06:15 AM
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I believe that the Gaulish people's DNA is likely included in one or both of these genetic maps. If so, than the French are likely about 25-50% Gaulish. Now you might be asking "what about the Franks? Shouldn't they be the dominant genetic contribution?". This could be true, but even so the Franks likely had celtic ancestry themselves because the Gauls lived in southern & central Germany for a long time, and it is likely that the Germans have a significant percentage of celtic DNA as well.
You might also say the celts had no defining genetic characteristics do to some articles that said so. Well, what the articles have forgotten is that, the original proto-celts lived 3000 years ago or more. So of course various sub-ethnicities of celts will have different genotypes, unlike the Germans who stayed not only intact linguistically for another 500-1000 years, but also traded & spread their genes to other tribes of Germans more often & farther reaching than other groups.

I, of course could be wrong, so please, if you have any better proof of what the real average percentage of Gaulish is among west Europeans, do comment, & I would love to hear a more definitive answer to this question.

Peterski
02-23-2019, 06:28 AM
Franks were just a tribe that took power, they were not numerous.

Hallstatt Bylany sample on GEDmatch:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276875-Hallstatt-Celt-DA111-850-700-BC-with-more-SNPs-than-before

TheOldNorth
02-23-2019, 06:36 AM
Franks were just a tribe that took power, they were not numerous.

Hallstatt Bylany sample on GEDmatch:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276875-Hallstatt-Celt-DA111-850-700-BC-with-more-SNPs-than-before

interesting map, thanks for the comment

coolfrenchguy
02-23-2019, 11:48 PM
porbably southern belgium walloons ,luxemburg

xripkan
02-25-2019, 08:21 PM
In my opinion French from central and southern/southwestern France are more than 50% Gaulish. There was not a massive settlement of germanic tribes there. Their haplogroups are mostly Gaulish Celtic. In nothren and eastern part they are mixed but even there there is a considerable Gaulish ancestry.

TheOldNorth
02-26-2019, 04:39 AM
In my opinion French from central and southern/southwestern France are more than 50% Gaulish. There was not a massive settlement of germanic tribes there. Their haplogroups are mostly Gaulish Celtic. In northern and eastern part they are mixed but even there there is a considerable Gaulish ancestry.

I hope so, because I see the Gauls as the ultimate symbol of freedom. They rebelled against Rome before Scotland & America did against England, Mexico & Cuba against Spain, & Russia against the Mongols. They were almost the original European freedom fighters, & they represent europe as they covered between 1/4 & 1/2 of europe's land mass. They lived in individual clans run by families, if that isn't the original way of life, I don't know what is.

Bellbeaking
02-27-2019, 08:12 PM
I think you may be correct that on the British and Irish map the less dark area may be associated with Continental Celtic movement into Britian with most emphasis on south England. (preliminary consensus on this forum is mostly that Brits are not really celts just celticized northern beakers)

TheOldNorth
02-28-2019, 03:56 AM
I think you may be correct that on the British and Irish map the less dark area may be associated with Continental Celtic movement into Britian with most emphasis on south England. (preliminary consensus on this forum is mostly that Brits are not really celts just celticized northern beakers)

celticized northern beaker is celtic enough to me