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Rouxinol
02-24-2019, 01:07 PM
I chose two close regions to compare and point out the similarities and differences.
Granted, there will be some overlapping, but in my opinion the two samples - which we can extrapolate to the populations as a whole - look fundamentally different, the French being much less "Medish" looking overall even though they're just a few degrees north of NE Spain.
You can check surnames by clicking on the pictures and checking the links.

City councilors of Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain:
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/josep-felix-ballesteros/@@images/af351157-4caf-4dc2-812b-0e202ca3f2a8.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/pp-2015-2019/jose-luis-martin/@@images/d52de90e-8801-4dff-a117-8009d1aff85d.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/pau-perez/@@images/0dc7b46a-bc07-4db7-abca-22ee4cd9173b.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/javier-villamayor/@@images/71dc2a69-0683-4427-9c96-a2835401e901.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/pp-2015-2019/immaculada-rodriguez/@@images/7d6ca6a5-b022-4396-93ed-ff5f05172e6e.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/begona-floria/@@images/16b27759-dded-4f60-b835-96eca7d4eb92.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/josep-m.-mila/@@images/291db66c-d4b4-41de-ad08-f38eab245aa2.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/elvira-ferrando/@@images/a94e2dbc-ee36-4aee-9543-94a8f2c263ea.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/ana-santos/@@images/ec038211-cfc8-49cc-9668-9af022fecd28.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/francesc-roca/@@images/71f8cfb9-80de-4955-895f-a507172de26a.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/psc-2015-2019/ivana-martinez/@@images/92b58275-ba78-4ac6-bf54-55b777038154.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/pp-2015-2019/josep-acero-de-dios/image_preview
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/pp-2015-2019/elisa-vedrina-conesa/image_mini
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/cs-2015-2019/ruben-vinuales/@@images/b72aa5d8-14a8-49d5-bb5b-4afb0fb73ddb.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/cs-2015-2019/pedro-sanchez/@@images/48285af6-dc85-4706-b1ed-00e6fa730fb4.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/erc-2015-2019/pau-ricoma/@@images/d0ddb82e-0254-47b1-9a90-1761ca309ac3.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/erc-2015-2019/monica-alabart/@@images/16510dcf-1e8b-48c3-9785-de49552cb19a.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/erc-2015-2019/xavier-puig/@@images/2007ad66-5e5c-4ec9-8765-51515ad4263e.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/didac-nadal/image_preview
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/cristina-guzman-pdcat/image_preview
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/cup-2015-2019/laia-estrada/@@images/6b6d28bc-7163-4892-bac8-784db60d05a7.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/cup-2015-2019/jaume-lopez-martin-1/image_mini
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/icv-2015-2019/arga-sentis/@@images/9989cd76-0870-413d-b4d0-81ba71f1db68.jpeg
https://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/josep-m.-prats-units-per-avancar/image_previewhttps://www.tarragona.cat/lajuntament/govern/consistori/fitxers/imatges/beatriz-perez-velasco/image_preview

Rouxinol
02-24-2019, 01:08 PM
City councilors of Castres, Occitanie, France (former Midi-Pyrénnées and Languedoc-Roussillon):

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/pascal_bugis.jpg?itok=CWVSqKNd

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_200px/public/thumbnails/image/brigitte_laquais.jpg?itok=ZtbN48mC

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_200px/public/thumbnails/image/xavier_bories.jpg?itok=sEzDBYgI

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_200px/public/thumbnails/image/genevieve_amen.jpg?itok=DM_49uPp

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/patrice_buffet.jpg?itok=RRV3eouX

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/michele_galissard.jpg?itok=G4mbvXC4

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/danielle_messean_de_selorges.jpg?itok=szwLVV8m

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/michel_sablayrolles.jpg?itok=anGwD9yS

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/jean_pierre_paris.jpg?itok=qNTbK3W7

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/suzanne_gillet.jpg?itok=zweMHIxX

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/guy_llopart.jpg?itok=uQBl0hAN

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/philippe_leroux.jpg?itok=OL9tVryT

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/pierre_fabre.jpg?itok=FIBE-6Pi

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/catherine_colombie_desplas.jpg?itok=PfjKntVU

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/christine_dauzats.jpg?itok=dof5B4kk

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/baya_algay.jpg?itok=CQQJTSkc

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/regine_massoutie.jpg?itok=5mFBy3qc

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/jean_philippe_audouy.jpg?itok=XqMY0iGH

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/nathalie_de_villeneuve.jpg?itok=KBDJpB_u

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/arnaud_bousquet.jpg?itok=epYL-oAo

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/sophie_desplas_assemat.jpg?itok=KmgAAkB5

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/catherine_houard.jpg?itok=n74yCZpc

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/philippe_guerineau.jpg?itok=X3V-py8z

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/martine_moron.jpg?itok=iHzYUaHc

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_300px/public/thumbnails/image/martine_gilmer.jpg?itok=jcUdtHEZ

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_200px/public/thumbnails/image/geraldine_rouquette.jpg?itok=uux_VT0b

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/cm_louis_cazals_23_ef_2_0.jpg

http://www.ville-castres.fr/sites/default/files/styles/image_200px/public/thumbnails/image/jean_paul_piloz.jpg?itok=E43N_SCH

Tenma de Pegasus
02-24-2019, 01:11 PM
Both look western shifted, the spanish more atlanto-med and the french more atlantid.
Despite different, they are similar.

Sp_loa
02-24-2019, 01:12 PM
The French are significantly lighter than the Spaniards.
I think the average Spaniard group should be lighter than this one. (I'm not blaming you for cherrypicking, just saying that 25% of Spaniards have light eyes and it isn't shown here, also the average Spaniard has lighter skin than what posted).

Rouxinol
02-24-2019, 01:15 PM
The French are significantly lighter than the Spaniards.
I think the average Spaniard group should be lighter than this one. (I'm not blaming you for cherrypicking, just saying that 25% of Spaniards have light eyes and it isn't shown here, also the average Spaniard has lighter skin than what posted).

I didn't cherrypick, I chose a random city and posted every city councilor who had a photo. In the French group I excluded the foreigners (Spanish, Portuguese, Italians and North Africans).

Tenma de Pegasus
02-24-2019, 01:18 PM
The French are significantly lighter than the Spaniards.
I think the average Spaniard group should be lighter than this one. (I'm not blaming you for cherrypicking, just saying that 25% of Spaniards have light eyes and it isn't shown here, also the average Spaniard has lighter skin than what posted).

I think thats just the pictures illumination and season time, maybe it was summer in Spain haha

Rouxinol
02-24-2019, 01:28 PM
I think thats just the pictures illumination and season time, maybe it was summer in Spain haha

You can check other cities. The pattern is the same so I doubt that is it.

Deneb
02-24-2019, 01:30 PM
Duplicated.

Deneb
02-24-2019, 01:31 PM
French are more varied, there are Mediterranean, Celtic and Germanic phenotypes among them, even in South.
Spaniards are more homogeneous, predominantly Mediterranean, even in north.

Cristiano viejo
02-24-2019, 02:02 PM
The Spaniards look closer to them than to Portuguese, sorry if hurts.

Rouxinol
02-24-2019, 02:14 PM
The Spaniards look closer to them than to Portuguese, sorry if hurts.

I don't want them to look alike. As to you, you can keep your fantasy of looking closer to the French than to other Medish people. If it makes you happy. :)

Zuh
02-24-2019, 03:16 PM
I don't want them to look alike. As to you, you can keep your fantasy of looking closer to the French than to other Medish people. If it makes you happy. :)

Portuguese people to my opinion are better looking than the Spanish must be because they are more of Mediterrean stock.

Rouxinol
02-24-2019, 03:45 PM
French are more varied, there are Mediterranean, Celtic and Germanic phenotypes among them, even in South.
Spaniards are more homogeneous, predominantly Mediterranean, even in north.

Agreed. I fail too see any significant difference between Spanish people from any region. There is a slight one though, that might come as unexpected to some, but I’ll leave it for another occasion.

JMack
02-24-2019, 03:49 PM
Agreed. I fail too see any significant difference between Spanish people from any region.

I agree, in Spain it's possible to see blond and blue-eyed Andalusians and Catalonians/Asturians who are dark as fuck. The distribution of phenotypes is more random between regions than in Italy. Because in Italy you know that someone from Trentino or Piemonte has more chances of being light than someone from Sardinia, for example.

Concerning the topic, I think Spaniards as a group are easily distinguishable from the French, even if there is some overlap.

Tooting Carmen
02-24-2019, 09:32 PM
Both look western shifted, the spanish more atlanto-med and the french more atlantid.
Despite different, they are similar.

Something like that.

Cristiano viejo
02-25-2019, 02:43 PM
I don't want them to look alike. As to you, you can keep your fantasy of looking closer to the French than to other Medish people. If it makes you happy. :)
And you can keep your fantasy that Spaniards and Portuguese look the same.


I agree, in Spain it's possible to see blond and blue-eyed Andalusians and Catalonians/Asturians who are dark as fuck. The distribution of phenotypes is more random between regions than in Italy. Because in Italy you know that someone from Trentino or Piemonte has more chances of being light than someone from Sardinia, for example.

Concerning the topic, I think Spaniards as a group are easily distinguishable from the French, even if there is some overlap.

Yeah because it is impossible to find a blonde South Italian and a dark as fuck North Italian, true? :bored:

Rouxinol
02-25-2019, 03:31 PM
And you can keep your fantasy that Spaniards and Portuguese look the same.

Really? My opinion is that they don't. Faces from central to NE, E and SE Spain, many times, look very foreign to me. And some phenotypes are so typical to Spain that I couldn't picture them anywhere else in the world. It's not that I'd like the Portuguese to look the same as them.

Cristiano viejo
02-25-2019, 03:54 PM
Really? My opinion is that they don't. Faces from central to NE, E and SE Spain, many times, look very foreign to me. And some phenotypes are so typical to Spain that I couldn't picture them anywhere else in the world. It's not that I'd like the Portuguese to look the same as them.

Amen with that.
I hope you think the same in future and dont get mad when I claim we look different, as you has done in this thread.