Catalonia's ex-president Carles Puigdemont on life 'on the run'

[♥ Lily ♥]

Catalonia's ex-president Carles Puigdemont on life 'on the run'

26th February, 2019

Carles Puigdemont, the ex-president of the Spanish region of Catalonia, spoke to the BBC's Europe reporter Gavin Lee about life in self-imposed exile in Belgium.

The interview took place as 12 pre-independence politicians face trials in Madrid and some could face up to 25 years in prison, if found guilty.

Mr Puigdemont has been on the run since his then-government led a failed attempt to secede from Spain after a controversial self-determination referendum.

A brief news video interview (in English) with Carles Puigdemont: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-47366501/catalonia-s-ex-president-carles-puigdemont-on-life-on-the-run

[♥ Lily ♥]

I think it's sad.

[Gallop]

Puigdemont twice ignored the request of the Mossos (regional police) to condemn the referendum

The head of planning of the regional police device admits that they were "aware" of the difficulty of preventing the consultation with only two agents per electoral school

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Commissioner Manel Castellví, former chief of Information of the Mossos d'Esquadra, on Monday in the Supreme Court

Carles Puigdemont
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He was dismissed as President of the Generalitat on October 28, 2017,5 under the protection of Order PRA / 1034/2017, of October 27, 6 in application of article 155 of the Spanish Constitution of 1978. From 2017 is in search and capture in Spanish territory accused of alleged crimes of rebellion, sedition and embezzlement of public funds, for acts attributed to him in the organization of the referendum on independence of Catalonia on October 1, 2017 and on the alleged declaration unilateral independence of the territory carried out on the 27th of the same month

On October 28, 2017, pursuant to Article 155 of the Constitution, he was dismissed as president of the Generalitat. A day later, on October 29, he undertook a trip to Brussels, leaving in the trunk of a car at dawn from his home in Gerona and taking a flight from Marseille to the European capital, to avoid the action of the Spanish justice. Since then he is considered a fugitive.

[Lluna Plena]

A small summary:

1-After the Franco dictatorship, Catalonia approves its Statute of Autonomy, which grants it devolved regional powers.


2-In 2005 a new Statute of Autonomy is agreed on between the Spanish and Catalangovernments and approved Catalan parliament.


3-A year latter, there is a heavy new modiffication of the "Estatut", but the Popular Party denounces the Catalan Statute in front of the Constitutional Court of Spain, arguing that it infringes the Spanish Constitution.


4-The Spanish Constitutional Court suspends essential articles of the new Statute of Autonomy affecting the recognition of Catalonia as a nation, protections for the Catalan language, regional tax collection powers, and more...


5-As a response of this sentence, there was a massive protest of over amillion people in the streets of Barcelona calling for the right to self-determination. (This was the beginning..)


6-Since then, and increasingly every September 11th (Catalonia's National Day), Omniun Cultural and The Catalan National Assembly (cultural non-governmental organisations), organize a marchall over Catalonia where millions of people clamor for independence.


7-After years of non understanding with Spanish Gouvernement (reject of a new fiscal system, their negatives to each and every proposals about that, and more, and more...), the Catalan government announces that the independence referendum will take place on October 1st, 2017. Then, the Spanish government sends over 10,000 policemen to Catalonia in order to prevent the referendum from taking place. As part of the operation against the referendum, Spanish police arrest 14 public servants and search the Catalan Economy Ministry HQ, among others. In many polling stations some ballot boxes are violently withdrawn. (The way they try to "prevent" the referendum is in many videos recorded all over Catalonia, where the violence from the Spanish police is obvious and shameful...).
Despite all the difficulties, most of Catalans could vote and said "yes" to independence, and in response to the result of the referendum, the Catalan Parliament declares the independence of Catalonia.


8-After that, the Spanish government suspends Catalonia’s home rule, calls early elections, and removes the democratically-elected Catalan government, whose members are summoned to declare before a judge in Madrid the week after.


9-Catalan president Carles Puigdemont and several Catalan ministers go into exile in Belgium and Scotland.


10-Those members are charged with sedition, rebellion, and misuse of public funds and are in pretrial detention (in jail), where they also remain to this day, which is totally unfair and goes against human rights! Some of them have babies at home waiting for them!


In short: the Catalan problem has no turning back!. Is growing ever wider every day.
We, the true Catalans, feel different, think different, have different wishes and feelings, and want to be independent!


VISCACATALUNYA LLIURE!!

[Mopi Licinius Crassus]

A small summary:

1-After the Franco dictatorship, Catalonia approves its Statute of Autonomy, which grants it devolved regional powers.


2-In 2005 a new Statute of Autonomy is agreed on between the Spanish and Catalangovernments and approved Catalan parliament.


3-A year latter, there is a heavy new modiffication of the "Estatut", but the Popular Party denounces the Catalan Statute in front of the Constitutional Court of Spain, arguing that it infringes the Spanish Constitution.


4-The Spanish Constitutional Court suspends essential articles of the new Statute of Autonomy affecting the recognition of Catalonia as a nation, protections for the Catalan language, regional tax collection powers, and more...


5-As a response of this sentence, there was a massive protest of over amillion people in the streets of Barcelona calling for the right to self-determination. (This was the beginning..)


6-Since then, and increasingly every September 11th (Catalonia's National Day), Omniun Cultural and The Catalan National Assembly (cultural non-governmental organisations), organize a marchall over Catalonia where millions of people clamor for independence.


7-After years of non understanding with Spanish Gouvernement (reject of a new fiscal system, their negatives to each and every proposals about that, and more, and more...), the Catalan government announces that the independence referendum will take place on October 1st, 2017. Then, the Spanish government sends over 10,000 policemen to Catalonia in order to prevent the referendum from taking place. As part of the operation against the referendum, Spanish police arrest 14 public servants and search the Catalan Economy Ministry HQ, among others. In many polling stations some ballot boxes are violently withdrawn. (The way they try to "prevent" the referendum is in many videos recorded all over Catalonia, where the violence from the Spanish police is obvious and shameful...).
Despite all the difficulties, most of Catalans could vote and said "yes" to independence, and in response to the result of the referendum, the Catalan Parliament declares the independence of Catalonia.


8-After that, the Spanish government suspends Catalonia’s home rule, calls early elections, and removes the democratically-elected Catalan government, whose members are summoned to declare before a judge in Madrid the week after.


9-Catalan president Carles Puigdemont and several Catalan ministers go into exile in Belgium and Scotland.


10-Those members are charged with sedition, rebellion, and misuse of public funds and are in pretrial detention (in jail), where they also remain to this day, which is totally unfair and goes against human rights! Some of them have babies at home waiting for them!


In short: the Catalan problem has no turning back!. Is growing ever wider every day.
We, the true Catalans, feel different, think different, have different wishes and feelings, and want to be independent!


VISCACATALUNYA LLIURE!!



when you say the true catalans..what do you mean ?

you must dismiss the more than 50% of people in cataluna who dont want independence as not true catalans ?

ps. are still in you pyjamas ? maybe post a pic of you in them :p

[Tietar]

I think it's sad.

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[Gallop]

Franco visits Catalonia in a bath of crowds


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJOeVXxnByg

Visit of Franco to Catalonia. At that time there was hardly any immigration from the rest of Spain, so all those who are there applauding and cheering are the ancestors of those who now want to become independent at least in part. Many changes of opinion according to interests.

Nobody there was bound to be thanking Franco for all the privileges he gave to Catalonia.

[Gallop]

Franco visits TarragonaCatalonia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KC8aPwFA_0

I do not like Franco, I stay at my house, the police will not go to millions of homes to force you out to applaud Franco, and if you go, it's because you want to.

Franco inaugurating the industry that put in Catalonia privileges to the detriment of the rest of the regions. So I applaud and shout Viva Franco.

STOP privileges. The mentality of modern Spanish is equality.

Postscript: Think that independence is victimized and uses lies as a systematic method of distortion and manipulation of reality. Search the Spanish press and translate it is the best way to be well informed about the subject in an objective way.

[Lluna Plena]

"when you say the true catalans..what do you mean ?
you must dismiss the more than 50% of people in cataluna who dont want independence as not true catalans ?"

To Mopi:
When I talk about "true Catalans", I mean those who really feel Catalan. In Barcelona there is a lot of Spanish immigration (mainly Andalusians who came here decades ago). They and their descendants (born in Catalonia), don't feel 100% Catalan (although there also Andalusians and even foreign people living here who support independence, but they are a minority).
As an example, Girona is the most independent province of Catalonia. Mainly because immigration there, was less massive and because ther are no large multinationals but a lot of local businessmen for whom the right to decide is a democratic and essential right....
How do you know that more than 50% of the Catalan population don't want independence?...we need a referendum to know that for sure, don't we?...:rolleyes:

[Lluna Plena]

ps. are still in you pyjamas ? maybe post a pic of you in them :p[/QUOTE]

OK...

https://www.yucatan.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Dpg0htaUwAA1wji.jpg


:p;);)

[Mopi Licinius Crassus]

you look v cute in your PJs !;)

You have a feline featured face..i like it

Big green eyes...a real honeybunny :bow00001:

[Lluna Plena]

you look v cute in your PJs !;)

You have a feline featured face..i like it

Big green eyes...a real honeybunny :bow00001:


Thanx, it's my best profile and the perfect pjs for sunday morning.:thumb001:

[Gallop]

Difference between the government of Spain and the government of a region or autonomy of Spain.

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Government of Spain

The Government of Spain, also called the Government of the Nation, is the constitutional body that heads the executive power of Spain and directs the General State Administration. The Government directs the internal and external policy, the civil and military administration and the defense of the State; and exercises the executive function and the regulatory power in accordance with the Constitution and laws.

The Government depends politically on the Congress of Deputies through the investiture or censure of its president, according to the parliamentary system established by the 1978 Constitution. Likewise, the Government is responsible before the Parliament. Its fundamental regulation is placed in Title IV of the Constitution, as well as Title V of said document -respect of its relationship with the Cortes Generales-, and in Law 50/1997, of November 27, of the Government.

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DON JUAN CARLOS I KING OF SPAIN

All those who were present saw and understood

Know: That the Cortes have approved and the Spanish people ratified the following Constitution:

PREAMBLE

The Spanish Nation, wishing to establish justice, freedom and security and promote the good of those who make it, in use of its sovereignty, proclaims its will to:

Guarantee democratic coexistence within the Constitution and laws in accordance with a fair economic and social order.

Consolidate a Rule of Law that ensures the rule of law as an expression of popular will.

Protect all Spaniards and peoples of Spain in the exercise of human rights, their cultures and traditions, languages ​​and institutions.

Promote the progress of culture and economy to ensure a decent quality of life for all.

Establish an advanced democratic society, and collaborate in the strengthening of peaceful relations and effective cooperation among all the peoples of the Earth.


Regional or autonomous governments

An autonomous community (C. A.) n is a Spanish administrative territorial entity that, within the state constitutional legal order, is endowed with certain legislative autonomy with its own representatives and certain executive and administrative powers.

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More Ceuta and Melilla with autonomous cities located in North Africa.

[Cristiano viejo]

How do you know that more than 50% of the Catalan population don't want independence?...we need a referendum to know that for sure, don't we?...:rolleyes:

Who do you pretend to deceive? all the polls, even these made by the own separatist Catalan government, say more than 50% of the Catalan population dont want the independence.

Even your former separatis president admited it:
Artur Mas: "No estábamos preparados ni hay aún una mayoría para la independencia"
https://www.elconfidencial.com/espana/cataluna/elecciones-catalanas/2017-11-16/elecciones-cataluna-artur-mas-independencia-mayoria_1478545/

For umpteenth time: you can try to deceive foreigners, not people who live here.

[Gallop]

Brutal: 2 Danish teachers beat Puigdemont in Copenhagen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HuWvFYecmg

Catalonia is the only autonomy to which all agencies give a «rating» of junk bond

If there has been a beneficiary administration of the improvement of the economy and tax revenues in recent years has been the autonomous communities. Their savings levels went positive a little over twelve months ago, while the ratio of their debt to GDP declined. The result of this change in trend has not been long in coming and 13 communities managed in 2018 to improve their credit rating by one of the big rating agencies. Only Catalonia, La Rioja and Cantabria had to resign themselves to the same grade. However, the region chaired by Joaquim Torra is in the worst position, as it is the only one whose debt is still described by all agencies as "junk bond", which hinders their desire to dissociate themselves from the umbrella of state financing and undertake its independent exit to the markets.

The creditworthiness of Catalonia is the worst valued since both Fitch ("BB") and Moody's ("Ba3") give it a "rating" for which they consider the titles of this region of high risk or "junk bond". Standard & Poor's, the third largest agency, officially ceased to qualify for Catalonia last autumn when its contract was not renewed, but its last note, dated September 2018, was "B +", in line with the other two. As if that were not enough, in the last three years, coinciding with the secessionist challenge of the Generalitat, neither Moody's nor Fitch have moved their grades.

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Only the Valencian Community has a similar situation, since Moody's and S & P also qualify as "junk bonds" their sovereign debt, but Fitch grants the degree of investment. In addition, in the case of this autonomy your note has improved.

Aragón, the Balearic Islands, the Basque Country, the Canary Islands, Castilla-La Mancha, Castilla y León, Extremadura, Galicia, Madrid, Murcia, Navarra, Asturias and Valencia recorded qualification improvements over the past year, while Andalusia had already scored in 2017, like the Canary Islands. The Basque Country and Navarre enjoy greater credit recognition even than that of the Treasury, something unusual also with the private debt of companies and what other communities can not choose because "most of their resources depend on transfers from the State through of the system of autonomic financing », explains a report about AFI.

A good "rating", key
The importance of the "rating" for the autonomous communities goes beyond mere financial prestige. Having an investment grade rating is a necessary condition for regions to leave the Autonomous Liquidity Fund (FLA) and the State Financial Facility Fund (FFF), through which they have been financed since 2012.

Andalusia and the Balearic Islands were the first to achieve this last year, when they captured 600 and 500 million euros respectively in the markets, and in this year they will probably issue debt for themselves. Thus, only Madrid, Navarra, the Basque Country - which never stopped issuing -, Andalusia and the Balearic Islands are present in the markets.

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The expectation of the Government, as recently explained by Treasury Secretary General Carlos San Basilio, is that other communities follow their steps during 2019. Galicia and Castilla y León are two of the candidates. In fact, the return to the markets of the communities and their lower public deficit will reduce this year the Treasury issues on behalf of the autonomies of 15,000 to 9,000 million net.

Pass from FLA to FFF
Catalonia is still far from achieving financial independence. The vice president of the Generalitat, Pere Aragonès, announced at the end of 2018 the exit of Catalonia from the FLA and therefore the stricter control of the Ministry of Finance, to move to the FFF, having improved its data on deficit, debt and average period of payment to suppliers and placing them within the parameters set by law.

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The Catalan government sold that change as a sample of the financial health of the community and an intermediate step for its return to the markets. However, in 2019 it will continue to be financed through the State and will request the FFF 8,071 million, and it is not foreseen that it can finance itself at least until 2020.

First, because it did not submit to the Treasury before November 30 of last year, as the terms mark, the necessary pluriannual indebtedness plan. But what automatically excludes Catalonia from the market is its bad credit rating.

Many institutional investors, such as pension funds, can not invest their money in securities that do not have a "rating" equivalent to the investment grade. And those of Catalonia do not count today with that endorsement. In addition, in the case of those investors who could acquire Catalan bonds, they would demand from the Government a very high profitability, when today it is financed through state funds at interest rates between 0% and 1%. %. Therefore, doing it on your own would be very expensive.

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Financing cost
"Catalonia does not offer the stability framework that the investor demands to be able to issue debt", said a week ago the Director of Markets of CACI of Société Générale, Fernando García, when presenting his perspectives for 2019, in which it is predicted that other regions go to the market.

Yesterday, the president of the Chamber of Commerce of Barcelona, ​​Miquel Valls, said that from a financial logic sees no advantage to Catalonia in the short term consider re-financing in the financial markets and opted to negotiate with the main creditor, is say, the State, which accumulates 57,513 million euros of debt of the Generalitat, 73.2% of the 78,506 million owed, as a result of that resources to state funds.

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"With the rising interest rates, we have not seen the advantage from a business point of view of not negotiating with the main creditor, the Government, on the debt, and establishing more economic conditions than those of the market," Valls explained. Faced with this financing of the State at low cost, the Generalitat pays the investors for the debt that it issued up to 2012 and which is still living returns that reach 6.35%.

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https://www.abc.es/economia/abci-cataluna-unica-autonomia-todas-agencias-rating-bono-basura-201902062011_noticia.html