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Peterski
02-27-2019, 12:10 PM
I1819 Ukraine Mesolithic R1a - GEDmatch Genesis kit number AD9975805

This is the oldest man with R1a known so far (he is over 10,000 years old).

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 60.93
2 North_Atlantic 30.08
3 Amerindian 6
4 Siberian 1.59
5 Oceanian 1
6 Sub-Saharan 0.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 11.59
2 Estonian 12.88
3 East_Finnish 14.57
4 Belorussian 15.14
5 Finnish 15.21
6 Estonian_Polish 15.63
7 Russian_Smolensk 16.41
8 Kargopol_Russian 16.5
9 Erzya 17.04
10 Southwest_Russian 17.8
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.2
12 Polish 18.66
13 Southwest_Finnish 19.53
14 La_Brana-1 21.05
15 Ukrainian 21.19
16 South_Polish 22.13
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 22.48
18 North_Swedish 26.96
19 Croatian 28.54
20 Chuvash 29.53

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.4% Lithuanian + 2.6% Karitiana @ 11.1
2 97.3% Lithuanian + 2.7% Pima @ 11.18
3 97.6% Lithuanian + 2.4% Mayan @ 11.27
4 97.4% Lithuanian + 2.6% North_Amerindian @ 11.29
5 98.5% Lithuanian + 1.5% West_Greenlander @ 11.54
6 99% Lithuanian + 1% East_Greenlander @ 11.56
7 92.1% Lithuanian + 7.9% East_Finnish @ 11.57
8 96% Lithuanian + 4% La_Brana-1 @ 11.57
9 99.5% Lithuanian + 0.5% MA-1 @ 11.59
10 98.9% Lithuanian + 1.1% Estonian @ 11.59
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 11.59
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 11.59
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 11.59
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 11.59
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 11.59
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 11.59
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 11.59
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 11.59
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 11.59
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 11.59

Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer Admixture Proportions:

Population
Anatolian Farmer -
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 91.44 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 5.12 Pct
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.11 Pct
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 2.71 Pct
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.14 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer -
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.48 Pct

^^^
Note that he was not from the Baltic States, but from Ukrainian Steppes:

https://i.imgur.com/ROw0fR2.png

Edit:

His DNA Land Ancestry Report is ready:

https://i.imgur.com/th0423n.png

Marco94
02-27-2019, 12:22 PM
Thanks for sharing!

Is the high Amerindian input due to ANE admixture?

Peterski
02-27-2019, 12:26 PM
Thanks for sharing!

Is the high Amerindian input due to ANE admixture?

Yes, certainly - this video has reconstructed face of ANE man, Afontova Gora3:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imj0_UhfMLs

^^^
Whoops, sorry, I think this reconstruction shows some Eastern Hunter-Gatherer (EHG), not Afontova Gora3?

It is a bit misleading that he used it as a thumbnail for his video.

Peterski
02-27-2019, 12:38 PM
This guy below looks like a lighter version of that reconstruction above:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?279698-Nordic-is-NOT-depigmented-Gracile-Med&p=5832069&viewfull=1#post5832069

https://i.imgur.com/597Sck0.png

Leto
02-27-2019, 12:49 PM
Fascinating. R1a is a truly Eastern European haplogroup.

Leto
02-27-2019, 12:50 PM
Thanks for sharing!

Is the high Amerindian input due to ANE admixture?
He scores around 30% ANE on Eurogenes K7.

Peterski
02-27-2019, 04:49 PM
Bump. DNA Land Ancestry Report added to the opening post.

Leto
02-27-2019, 05:27 PM
How fast do they process data on DNA Land? I've been waiting for a kit for a week (FTDNA data 2019) and the results are still not available.

Proto-Shaman
02-27-2019, 05:33 PM
So, this means that R1a migrated from east Europe into middle east? The Underhill 2014 study became outdated.

Slavic Italian
03-03-2019, 03:06 AM
Let him know I love him.


Largest segment = 1.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1.2 cM (0.032 Pct)

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

405666 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.556 Pct SNPs are full identical

Proto-Shaman
03-05-2019, 10:10 PM
Saami-Amerindian connection? Looks very Northern-Uralic shifted.

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 70.65
2 Ancestral_Altaic 17.85
3 Amerindian 2.98
4 European_Early_Farmers 1.99
5 Arctic 1.82
6 Subsaharian 0.86
7 South_Central_Asian 0.82
8 Australoid 0.63
9 Archaic_Human 0.55
10 East_Siberian 0.49
11 African_Pygmy 0.47
12 Archaic_African 0.47
13 South_Indian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saami ( ) 21.04
2 Saami_Finland ( ) 25.94
3 Udmurd ( ) 29.23
4 Bashkir ( ) 29.57
5 Mari ( ) 31.34
6 Tatar-Siberian ( ) 31.87
7 Saami_Kola ( ) 32.1
8 Finn ( ) 33.44
9 Karelian ( ) 33.52
10 Komi ( ) 34.21
11 Chuvash ( ) 34.28
12 Hakas ( ) 34.37
13 Finn_East ( ) 34.86
14 Uygur-Han ( ) 34.93
15 Finnish-East ( ) 35.17
16 Finnish_FIN ( ) 35.76
17 Chuvashs ( ) 35.89
18 Kazahs ( ) 35.99
19 Vepsa ( ) 36.32
20 Aleut ( ) 36.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.8% Saami ( ) + 14.2% Athabask ( ) @ 18.88
2 81.4% Saami ( ) + 18.6% Ojibwa ( ) @ 18.94
3 81.6% Saami ( ) + 18.4% Haida ( ) @ 19.04
4 80.6% Saami ( ) + 19.4% Ayta_AE ( ) @ 19.11
5 83.7% Saami ( ) + 16.3% Cree ( ) @ 19.19
6 88.3% Saami ( ) + 11.7% Navajo ( ) @ 19.22
7 84.7% Saami ( ) + 15.3% Hema ( ) @ 19.24
8 85% Saami ( ) + 15% Kikuyu ( ) @ 19.26
9 84.7% Saami ( ) + 15.3% Sandawe ( ) @ 19.29
10 85.6% Saami ( ) + 14.4% Khwe ( ) @ 19.33
11 85.3% Saami ( ) + 14.7% Masai_Ayodo ( ) @ 19.35
12 84.2% Saami ( ) + 15.8% Lamaholt ( ) @ 19.36
13 84.5% Saami ( ) + 15.5% Lembata ( ) @ 19.37
14 84.1% Saami ( ) + 15.9% Manggarai ( ) @ 19.38
15 86.6% Saami ( ) + 13.4% Alur ( ) @ 19.4
16 83.5% Saami ( ) + 16.5% Ati ( ) @ 19.41
17 86.3% Saami ( ) + 13.7% Shua ( ) @ 19.43
18 89.6% Saami ( ) + 10.4% Apache ( ) @ 19.44
19 82.4% Saami ( ) + 17.6% Mamanawa ( ) @ 19.45
20 87.5% Saami ( ) + 12.5% Cochimi ( ) @ 19.46

Peterski
04-04-2019, 12:09 AM
See also this thread:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?284514-R1a-before-the-Corded-Ware&p=5931036&viewfull=1#post5931036

Leto
04-04-2019, 12:15 AM
Pure EHG

Population
North_Sea 34.06 Pct
Atlantic 0.84 Pct
Baltic 27.56 Pct
Eastern_Euro 31.55 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 5.58 Pct
Oceanian 0.41 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

JQP4545
04-27-2019, 07:06 PM
Dodecad k12b

# Population Percent
1 North_European 84.72
2 Siberian 6.04
3 Atlantic_Med 5.71
4 Gedrosia 1.75
5 Sub_Saharan 1.46
6 South_Asian 0.33

Interesting that the Siberian DNA is in Eastern Europe. Perhaps some of the Siberian DNA in Russians does not come from Finno-Urgic and Volga Ural groups.

Lucas
04-28-2019, 06:26 PM
This guy below looks like a lighter version of that reconstruction above:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?279698-Nordic-is-NOT-depigmented-Gracile-Med&p=5832069&viewfull=1#post5832069

https://i.imgur.com/597Sck0.png

Russian

Dick
04-28-2019, 06:36 PM
Russian

I’m pretty sure he’s french

Lucas
04-28-2019, 06:42 PM
I’m pretty sure he’s french

no way....

Dick
04-28-2019, 06:43 PM
no way....

Why not? He can be any haplogroup. Haplogroups mean nothing. The band he plays in is from France anyway