Who looks more atypical for their ethnicity: Gillian Norris or Nikki Haley?

[Tooting Carmen]

Gillian Norris, Irish dancer
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/ce/86/8cce8685c53cb6e33bd542863a39c3d6.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtcC0XgYUUd7x-LKz2B1DynptFVteVs8AyOFjLSek64OovtnAJ

Nikki Haley, American diplomat of Punjabi descent
https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-SX246_HALEY0_GR_20170410212412.jpghttps://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/nikki-haley-exit-leaves-dc-in-shambles.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

[Deneb]

Fixed: Gillian Norris.

[Papastratosels26]

Nikki Haley

[JMack]

I knew instantly this was a Tooting Carmen thread, lol.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[Morena]

Nikki Hailey. I don't think Gillian Norris is too exotic. I've seen more exotic irish types in movies, like actress Susan Lynch, who looks like Spanish actress whose name as escaped me...

[amoora]

Nikki Haley

[Dna8]

Haley

[Mr.G]

Haley. But they are both solidly atypical.

[MysteriousWays]

Haley

[Tooting Carmen]

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[Marmara]

People only assume Nikki Haley looks atypical for a Punjabi, ask a real Punjabi if it's true.

[Tooting Carmen]

People only assume Nikki Haley looks atypical for a Punjabi, ask a real Punjabi if it's true.

Well I've met loads of Punjabis, and even their lighter-skinned types seldom look like her.

[Smeagol]

Nikki Haley doesn't look Indian at all, could pass for dark Anglo-American.

[Marmara]

Well I've met loads of Punjabis, and even their lighter-skinned types seldom look like her.

She has black hair, dark eyes and skin color normal for a Punjabi.

She doesn't stick out among other Punjabis, you don't look and say "there is a white person standing there".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUlHQFdU8AEhrJK.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Nikki Haley doesn't look Indian at all, could pass for dark Anglo-American.

To me she looks French - like Celine Dion's long-lost sister or cousin.

[Sebastianus Rex]

To me she looks French - like Celine Dion's long-lost sister or cousin.

Celine Dion would stand out as a white/european person in that crowd, while she (despite being more europid shifted for her ethnicity) doesn't stand out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUlHQFdU8AEhrJK.jpg

https://media.hugogloss.uol.com.br/uploads/2018/11/C%C3%A9line-Dion-900x350.jpg

[aherne]

Haley looks Pashto (Iranid mixed with Aryan). Even though she's not blue eyed (as it usually happens in those mixes), she can pass as a dark Brit even, but far better as Italian or Iberian... For an Indian, she's highly atypical (but such people do exist among Punjabis).

The other girl looks absolutely un-Irish. She passes as Lebanese/Assyrian/Israeli and maybe as Southern Italian.

[Rouxinol]

Gillian Norris. She'd be exotic even in Med Europe.

[Mingle]

Haley looks Pashto (Iranid mixed with Aryan). Even though she's not blue eyed (as it usually happens in those mixes), she can pass as a dark Brit even, but far better as Italian or Iberian... For an Indian, she's highly atypical (but such people do exist among Punjabis).

She doesn't look Pashtun.

[Zroota]

Haley looks Pashto (Iranid mixed with Aryan). Even though she's not blue eyed (as it usually happens in those mixes), she can pass as a dark Brit even, but far better as Italian or Iberian... For an Indian, she's highly atypical (but such people do exist among Punjabis).
Honestly, seeing that pic of her among Punjabis that Marmar has posted, she does look typically Punjabi.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUlHQFdU8AEhrJK.jpg

[Dna8]

One can discern Haley's Indic heritage from one mile and one metre away.

[lameduck]

Haley look Punjabi , just bit on robust side , quite a few Punjabi woman will look like her if groomed in western way.

[Grace O'Malley]

Nikki Hailey. I don't think Gillian Norris is too exotic. I've seen more exotic irish types in movies, like actress Susan Lynch, who looks like Spanish actress whose name as escaped me...

Susan Lynch is half Sicilian though but I don't think she looks more exotic than Gillian.

[Borealis]

I don't like Indians like Haley tbh, they think they are superior to the rest cause of how they look. I think the solution is to forcebreed the upper castes with low castes and east/south Indians and Australoid tribals. That will end the superiority/inferiority complexes and unite the coutnry for good.

[Zuh]

I don't like Indians like Haley tbh, they think they are superior to the rest cause of how they look. I think the solution is to forcebreed the upper castes with low castes and east/south Indians and Australoid tribals. That will end the superiority/inferiority complexes and unite the coutnry for good.

Yeah I agree she looks white or very Caucasian indeed.

[Borealis]

Yeah I agree she looks white or very Caucasian indeed.

Many people from her community look similar to her actually.

[Borealis]

Well I've met loads of Punjabis, and even their lighter-skinned types seldom look like her.

What do they usually look like?

[Morticia]

Neither, really. Gillian has that wild Irish hair.
I actually don't think the other woman looks atypical. Then again, I'm not familiar with South Asian phenotypes.

[lameduck]

I don't like Indians like Haley tbh, they think they are superior to the rest cause of how they look. I think the solution is to forcebreed the upper castes with low castes and east/south Indians and Australoid tribals. That will end the superiority/inferiority complexes and unite the coutnry for good.

it is matter of time, India will become homogeneous and more ASI, there are states after states of India filled with tribal like population , imagine when they will enter mainstream. Adivasis make like 10% of Indian population

[Borealis]

it is matter of time, India will become homogeneous and more ASI, there are states after states of India filled with tribal like population , imagine when they will enter mainstream. Adivasis make like 10% of Indian population

No it's a matter of a long time, actually there is a very good chance the world will end before there will be significant mixing between these divergent groups.

[JMack]

it is matter of time, India will become homogeneous and more ASI, there are states after states of India filled with tribal like population , imagine when they will enter mainstream. Adivasis make like 10% of Indian population

I've heard the contrary actually. It seems some factions of the Hindu Nationalists have eugenic programs to ''whiten'' tribals and low castes through selective breeding with upper caste/northwestern Indian types.

If all females like Nikki Haley had kids with similar looking Indian men and low caste women got impregnated with upper caste/northwestern Indian blood (I use both as synonyms because upper castes from other regions tend to look like non-dalit NW Indians) India would become more Caucasoid progressively until the progressive extinction of Veddid features.

Search for Guru Golwalkar and his RSS eugenic programs. Since the extreme-right is in power in India and they will still have the upper hand for some years it may be possible. I have the impression that lower races will end up being vanished from this world in the next decades or centuries due to advances in eugenics and genetic science, not only in India but everywhere.

No sane country can ignore the power of genetics or eugenics.

On the topic: Nikki Haley looks fully Caucasoid and like most fully Caucasoid looking South Asians curiously she resembles Europeans more than MENAs.

[lameduck]

I've heard the contrary actually. It seems some factions of the Hindu Nationalists have eugenic programs to ''whiten'' tribals and low castes through selective breeding with upper caste/northwestern Indian types.

If all females like Nikki Haley had kids with similar looking Indian men and low caste women got impregnated with upper caste/northwestern Indian blood (I use both as synonyms because upper castes from other regions tend to look like non-dalit NW Indians) India would become more Caucasoid progressively until the progressive extinction of Veddid features.

Search for Guru Golwalkar and his RSS eugenic programs. Since the extreme-right is in power in India and they will still have the upper hand for some years it may be possible. I have the impression that lower races will end up being vanished from this world in the next decades or centuries due to advances in eugenics and genetic science, not only in India but everywhere.

No sane country can ignore the power of genetics or eugenics.

On the topic: Nikki Haley looks fully Caucasoid and like most fully Caucasoid looking South Asians curiously she resembles Europeans more than MENAs.

From what i have read , many people from UP/Bihar are migrating to Punjab/NW india and assimilating as natives, while real native population of Indian Punjab like jatts is migrating abroad. Also there is shortage of women in NW india because of Female infanticide and many brides are being imported from Bihar and Bengal and south india

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/In-Haryana-get-a-bride-for-Rs-1000-from-Bihar/articleshow/7003264.cms

[Borealis]

I've heard the contrary actually. It seems some factions of the Hindu Nationalists have eugenic programs to ''whiten'' tribals and low castes through selective breeding with upper caste/northwestern Indian types.

If all females like Nikki Haley had kids with similar looking Indian men and low caste women got impregnated with upper caste/northwestern Indian blood (I use both as synonyms because upper castes from other regions tend to look like non-dalit NW Indians) India would become more Caucasoid progressively until the progressive extinction of Veddid features.

Search for Guru Golwalkar and his RSS eugenic programs. Since the extreme-right is in power in India and they will still have the upper hand for some years it may be possible. I have the impression that lower races will end up being vanished from this world in the next decades or centuries due to advances in eugenics and genetic science, not only in India but everywhere.

No sane country can ignore the power of genetics or eugenics.

On the topic: Nikki Haley looks fully Caucasoid and like most fully Caucasoid looking South Asians curiously she resembles Europeans more than MENAs.

Ok a few things to say about this:

First off, something like that is not possible because ASI shifted populations are way too many. It’d be impossible to “whiten” them in that fashion. Secondly you would have to make sure those people keep being impregnated by UCs till they start to resemble their fathers side which is also very difficult.

Lastly, yes, many do and that’s probably due to 1. High European input due to Indo-Europeans and 2. Softening of hard features through ASI ancestry.

[Borealis]

From what i have read , many people from UP/Bihar are migrating to Punjab/NW india and assimilating as natives, while real native population of Indian Punjab like jatts is migrating abroad. Also there is shortage of women in NW india because of Female infanticide and many brides are being imported from Bihar and Bengal and south india

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/In-Haryana-get-a-bride-for-Rs-1000-from-Bihar/articleshow/7003264.cms


Wait, what? Those latter areas also have a shortage of women. Not the south though

[Grace O'Malley]

Neither, really. Gillian has that wild Irish hair.
I actually don't think the other woman looks atypical. Then again, I'm not familiar with South Asian phenotypes.

That's not her natural hair. All the girls on Lord of the Dance had their hair curled like that.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/00/0d/43000d7273bf7b6658d2a4d0415775e4.jpg

http://imgur.com/lu6Ju.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/oa5f61.jpg

I think her large wide spaced eyes contribute to making her look somewhat exotic.

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[Antinoo]

Nikki Haley

[Tooting Carmen]

That's not her natural hair. All the girls on Lord of the Dance had their hair curled like that.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/00/0d/43000d7273bf7b6658d2a4d0415775e4.jpg

http://imgur.com/lu6Ju.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/oa5f61.jpg

I think her large wide spaced eyes contribute to making her look somewhat exotic.

That and the fact they are very dark (more than the typical brown eyes of Europeans).

[Antinoo]

Nikki Haley can't pass in Europe. She looks what she is, a light Pakistani.

http://www.thetower.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/nikki-haley-3-600x326.png

[Tooting Carmen]

Nikki Haley can't pass in Europe. She looks what she is, a light Pakistani.

http://www.thetower.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/nikki-haley-3-600x326.png

She's within the darkest spectrum for native Europeans (features-wise too).

[21993]

Nikki Haley. She looks SW European.

[Tooting Carmen]

Nikki Haley. She looks SW European.

Fixed.

[lonewolfcypriot]

Gillian Norris looks part black but Nikki looks like what she is suppose to be.

[Grace O'Malley]

That and the fact they are very dark (more than the typical brown eyes of Europeans).

In all honesty I'd be really interested to see what Gillian got on a dna test. It would be funny if she came back 100% Irish.

[itilvolga]

Nikki Haley is not that atypical imo.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvflDWmb_4zKiwrLnezyWqcCKOge2aT DFIumP5N23zpVd_DLLy_-OmvOIsUQ

Gillian Norris is definitely more atypical.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRIV1mySkustO98dfbmIkiV4gaIb_v azLUEV3QGh-W4-Bi6dlUM

[Aiwado]

Gillian Norris. I don't know much about the Punjabis.

[Corded]

Nikki Haley. but they are both atypical

[Seth MacFarlane]

Haley

[Seth MacFarlane]

Nikki Haley is not that atypical imo.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvflDWmb_4zKiwrLnezyWqcCKOge2aT DFIumP5N23zpVd_DLLy_-OmvOIsUQ

Gillian Norris is definitely more atypical.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRIV1mySkustO98dfbmIkiV4gaIb_v azLUEV3QGh-W4-Bi6dlUM

Those are both altered photos , or at least Gillian Morris makeup is extreme and the camera quality is something from the 80s

[Roy]

Haley imo.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[Immanenz]

Facial feature wise neither much. You can find Paki/North Indians with Mountain Indid/ Proto Iranid facial features. You can find more rounder faced british women, because of sexual dimorphism of Alpine/Brunn types and the nose is because of Dinaric/Keltic.
Tan (or the lack of it in 2nd case) is for both ethnicities extremly atypical.

[Grace O'Malley]

Here's another picture of Gillian. She is just darker than usual for an Irish person. Her features aren't particularly exotic IMO. Her little boy looks average Irish with very fair skin.

https://beat102103.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Screenshot-2019-04-30-at-19.50.03.png

This is a picture of her with Michael Flatley and some other dancers from Lord of the Dance.

https://i.imgur.com/UiahUqV.png

[Tooting Carmen]

She really stands out in that crowd.