Compare and contrast one Portuguese rugby team vs. two Spanish rugby teams

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Only the native players selected. Starting with the Portuguese team, from Lisbon:



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[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

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Spanish team, from Valladollid:


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[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Another Spanish team, from Madrid:


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[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

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By the way the Spanish team from Madrid had one Portuguese player, the guy above named André Aquino.

[Sp_loa]

I don't see much difference between the second Spanish team and the Portuguese team.
The first Spanish team is a bit darker than the other two.
More than a few semi "Dinarid" noses in the Portuguese team, I always had the impression of Portuguese mainly having straight noses.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I don't see much difference between the second Spanish team and the Portuguese team.
The first Spanish team is a bit darker than the other two.
More than a few semi "Dinarid" noses in the Portuguese team, I always had the impression of Portuguese mainly having straight noses.

There are a few Portuguese players with dinariform traits but they are the minority from my perception.

[Morena]

is there a reason the Madrid team is lighter than the other one ? Does it attract players from more areas, adding to its variety?


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[Rouxinol]

I'm disappointed, I was expecting the Valladolid team to be "very decent European-looking", "very pale" (I'm quoting). They just look like everyone else after all.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

is there a reason the Madrid team is lighter than the other one ? Does it attract players from more areas, adding to its variety?


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No idea, just a coincidence I believe since players aren't chosen by how light they look or not. The three lightest players from the Madrid team are from Valencia, Donostia (Basque Country) and Portugal.

[Morena]

No idea, just a coincidence I believe since players aren't chosen by how light they look or not. The three lightest players from the Madrid team are from Valencia, Donostia (Basque Country) and Portugal.

Well, I meant that they were less local since it is a capital team. I guess you answered my question with a yes.

my verdict:
between team 1 and 2a: same differences as i see i other comparison threads. little difference but the portuguese group has higher instances of light pigmentation and finer features.

between teams 1 and 2b (Madrid): no discernible difference.


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[Dna8]

The sets cluster quite close together on the aesthetic spectrum. Perhaps the Portuguese set is a bit more northern shifted.

[Radiy]

Spanish have more Baskid/Dinarid

[Sebastianus Rex]

The sets cluster quite close together on the aesthetic spectrum. Perhaps the Portuguese set is a bit more northern shifted.

As usual in direct comparison the Portuguese are more northern shifted (except for the football team wich is usually filled with players of mixed origin).

Portuguese set is more Atlanto-med/Atlantid mixed with CMs while the Spanish sets are more Berid/alpinoid-Med shifted.

The darkest set is without doubt the Valladolid one, the lightest and more Atlantized is the Lisbon set.

[Morena]

As usual in direct comparison the Portuguese are more northern shifted (except for the football team wich usyally filled with players of mixed origin).

Portuguese set is more Atlanto-med/Atlantid mixed with CM while the Spanish sets are more Berid-Med shifted.

The darkest set is without doubt the Valladolid one, the lughest and more Atlantized is the Lisbon set.

Where is Valladolid located? Is it considered darker than other areas?

[Sebastianus Rex]

Where is Valladolid located? Is it considered darker than other areas?

It's north of both Lisbon and Madrid...and according to Cristiano Nuevo is "much lighter". :rolleyes:

[Morena]

It's north of both Lisbon and Madrid...and according to Cristiano Nuevo is "much lighter". :rolleyes:

Oh OK.

[The Blade]

The Spanish teams have more Gracile Med (evident even if these guys are athletes and roiders) and Berid traits.
The Valladolid set is the darkest.

[The Blade]

As usual in direct comparison the Portuguese are more northern shifted (except for the football team wich is usually filled with players of mixed origin).

Football teams, especially of Western European nations, are never representative for a country.
My impression is that the Portuguese are on average more Atlanto and CM shifted than the Spaniards though these types exist in good amounts among the latter, too.
Also, having seen a good number of sets of both nations, I believe the Portuguese have a higher rate of blondism.
In the context of football France has a darker and more Negroid team than Egypt and Algeria.

[Cristiano viejo]

The Spaniards are lighter, as expected.

[Pansarkamrat]

The Spaniards are lighter, as expected.

You comented this, as expected.

[Cristiano viejo]

You comented this, as expected.
I alwways tell the truth, even when I lie :noidea:

[hurtuv]

Lots of Atlantids and Atlanto-Meds with occasional Nordid influence

[Latinus]

The Portuguese set is more Northern shifted.

[gixajo]

The Spaniards are lighter, as expected.

They are exactly the same.

[mitalit]

I don't see much difference between the second Spanish team and the Portuguese team.
The first Spanish team is a bit darker than the other two.
More than a few semi "Dinarid" noses in the Portuguese team, I always had the impression of Portuguese mainly having straight noses.

The light is quite worse

[Luso]

Undeniably Iberian phenotype mixes between both. Portuguese might be a bit more northern shifted here though.

[Cristiano viejo]

They are exactly the same.

In real life Spaniards are lighter as well, you know this as well as me. Everybody in Spain know this.

[gixajo]

The light is quite worse

Sigues siendo hondureño.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy5lSeww9NE

Me aburro, se nota mucho?

[mitalit]

Sigues siendo hondureño.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy5lSeww9NE

Me aburro, se nota mucho?

Viva honduras!

Ya han llegado los kits de tus padres al laboratorio?

[gixajo]

Viva honduras!

Ya han llegado los kits de tus padres al laboratorio?

No. Llevan diez días viajando hacia EEUU.Deben ir en algún galeón con el viento en contra e igual han tenido algún ataque pirata por el camino.

Espero que me notifiquen que llegó durante esta semana, y los resultados en una o dos semanas más, si no hay ningún problema. En correos me avisaron que hay problemillas en el paso de fronteras para envíos por correo, igual tardan 5 meses...

[mitalit]

No. Llevan diez días viajando hacia EEUU.Deben ir en algún galeón con el viento en contra e igual han tenido algún ataque pirata por el camino.

Espero que me notifiquen que llegó durante esta semana, y los resultados en una o dos semanas más, si no hay ningún problema. En correos me avisaron que hay problemillas en el paso de fronteras para envíos por correo, igual tardan 5 meses...

Es lo que tiene.
Si a tu padre en el predictor de haplogrupo le sale r1a para mi ya seras un r1a. Hasta entonces no me fío de esas estimaciones.

[gixajo]

Es lo que tiene.
Si a tu padre en el predictor de haplogrupo le sale r1a para mi ya seras un r1a. Hasta entonces no me fío de esas estimaciones.

Ya van dos diferentes que me dan r1a, va a ser que sí.

[mitalit]

Ya van dos diferentes que me dan r1a, va a ser que sí.

Pero usando la misma raw no? Una raw que supuestamente no da haplogrupos. Si una chica mete su raw en esas paginas también le daría un haplogrupo?

[gixajo]

Pero usando la misma raw no? Una raw que supuestamente no da haplogrupos. Si una chica mete su raw en esas paginas también le daría un haplogrupo?

No, porque para el haplogrupo paterno solo se usan snp´s del par 23 , en los hombres ese par es XY y en las mujeres XX, solo se miran snp´s del Y...las mujeres no tienen ese cromosoma Y.

Los cromosomas no "dan" haplogrupos, para los haplogrupos y subclados la "solución" se discute, como en algunos resultados de problemas matemáticos. Hay que ir mirando snp´s que son favorables o que impiden que seas de uno u otro haplogrupo, no es tan sencillo como ver el snp´s ****** AA y que si tienes ese ya eres tal subclado de tal haplogrupo.

Hay que ir descartando etc hasta dar con el más probable.

Edité algo porque me explico como el culo.