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Dick
02-28-2019, 08:05 PM
Watch from 6 minutes to 8 minutes for Niraj Rai's take.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVXQcgcTwz0

Ayetooey
02-28-2019, 08:08 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/9AFF/production/_90397693_mediaitem90395534.jpg

Ryuk
02-28-2019, 08:17 PM
R1 originated in Siberia.

Kaspias
02-28-2019, 08:19 PM
Yeah and Q originated inside of my dick

Ülev
02-28-2019, 08:22 PM
https://youtu.be/jUZO0zpHhOA

Token
02-28-2019, 08:42 PM
West Siberian HG/ANE admixture was in India much before any Aryan invasion so finding some basal R1a clades there in modern and ancient samples is to be expected. Now, Z93 was surely introduced by Indo-Aryans.

Ryuk
02-28-2019, 08:59 PM
West Siberian HG/ANE admixture was in India much before any Aryan invasion so finding some basal R1a clades there in modern and ancient samples is to be expected. Now, Z93 was surely introduced by Indo-Aryans.

As I know,only some BMAC remains have West Siberian admix,also some BMAC individuals have steppe ancestry.This is not a secret that trade and mixing with northern people at BMAC culture.

If you have some Indus results with siberian ancestry,please share.

Blondie
02-28-2019, 09:03 PM
Fake news, aryans migrated to India and they spread haplgroup r1a there.

Rćdwald
02-28-2019, 09:11 PM
R1 btfo, butthurt train incoming

tipirneni
02-28-2019, 09:20 PM
There is research based on the motifs that says There is a wave of old R1a R1b 10k yrs back & then later during MLBA time there was bigger wave of R1a. Even now the older R1a is found in tribals & R1b in some castes/tribals.


R1-M173 and R2-M124 mixed with M95-O2a
https://static.hindi.firstpost.com/static-hindi-firstpost/uploads/886x498/jpg/2018/01/tribal-culture.jpg


R1b & H1a
http://www.indovacations.net/RajasthanTours/images/Rajasthan-Tribes-03.jpg



https://file.scirp.org/pdf/AA20120100001_58744990.pdf

Ayetooey
02-28-2019, 09:31 PM
R1 btfo, butthurt train incoming

Now we know R1a/R1b were bobs and vegenerz, My pride in I has increased. We wuz kangz. Europe for the Black paleoz!

Voskos
02-28-2019, 09:37 PM
https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/starcevo_culture.shtml

Altaylardan Tunaya
02-28-2019, 09:38 PM
I was always proud of my ydna (because of its origin in steppe, its special relationship with horse) but if it has its origins in india.. well that will be a game changer. i don't believe or trust eurocentrists (those who claim r1a/r1b to be european), but i'd prefer to be a descendant of an european than an indian :D

Vlatko Vukovic
02-28-2019, 09:55 PM
I am proud of my Peshmerga I2a, as Kipchak Hakan would say.

Ayetooey
02-28-2019, 10:08 PM
I am proud of my Peshmerga I2a, as Kipchak Hakan would say.

We wuz Kurdz.

Proto-Shaman
02-28-2019, 10:15 PM
reminds me to zis muuuuh Aryaaaan
https://i.imgur.com/1gJ22gh.png

Token
02-28-2019, 10:17 PM
As I know,only some BMAC remains have West Siberian admix,also some BMAC individuals have steppe ancestry.This is not a secret that trade and mixing with northern people at BMAC culture.

If you have some Indus results with siberian ancestry,please share.

Then you should inform yourself better. Indus_Periphery, which fits as the single most important donor to the genepool of modern day South Asians and was in all likelihood a recent immigrant from IVC, had WSHG.

Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3 (Indus_Periphery)
P 0.333
0.522 Ganj_Dareh_N
0.478 Han.DG

P 0.275
0.508 Ganj_Dareh_N
0.076 West_Siberia_N
0.416 Onge.DG

Genetic history of South Asia in a nutshell.

https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0959437X17301752-gr1.jpg

lonewolfcypriot
02-28-2019, 10:22 PM
R1a was created in a deep underground lab facility in ancient Mesopotamia by an alien race which the locals worshipped as gods.

Proto-Shaman
02-28-2019, 10:25 PM
Then you should inform yourself better. Indus_Periphery, which fits as the single most important donor to the genepool of modern day South Asians and was in all likelihood a recent immigrant from IVC, had WSHG.

Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3 (Indus_Periphery)
P 0.333
0.522 Ganj_Dareh_N
0.478 Han.DG

P 0.275
0.508 Ganj_Dareh_N
0.076 West_Siberia_N
0.416 Onge.DG

WSHG = Neolithic Turkic speakers with 20% Mongo / 80% Euro DNA.

Lemgrant
02-28-2019, 10:26 PM
R1a was created in a deep underground lab facility in ancient Mesopotamia by an alien race which the locals worshipped as gods.


https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.png

Proto-Shaman
02-28-2019, 10:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.png


https://media.tenor.com/images/c6dbb343b83efe461f18310701492c69/tenor.gif

Ryuk
02-28-2019, 10:30 PM
Then you should inform yourself better. Indus_Periphery, which fits as the single most important donor to the genepool of modern day South Asians and was in all likelihood a recent immigrant from IVC, had WSHG.

Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3 (Indus_Periphery)
P 0.333
0.522 Ganj_Dareh_N
0.478 Han.DG

P 0.275
0.508 Ganj_Dareh_N
0.076 West_Siberia_N
0.416 Onge.DG

Genetic history of South Asia in a nutshell.

https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0959437X17301752-gr1.jpg

Well,Shar-i Sokhta locate in Iran-Afghanistan border and this remain archeologically belong to Jiroft culture.

But,if siberian came to South Afghanistan at bronze age,maybe they also came to Indus area.

Thanks for it.

Ryuk
02-28-2019, 10:35 PM
WSHG = Neolithic Turkic speakers with 20% Mongo / 80% Euro DNA.

Well,I think close to this.:thumb001:

Token
02-28-2019, 10:37 PM
WSHG = Neolithic Turkic speakers with 20% Mongo / 80% Euro DNA.

Yes, every fucking thing on earth is Turkic.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-28-2019, 10:40 PM
I thought it was already quite certain that the origin for haplogroup R1 was South Asia or its western neighbouring areas, so what is so ground breaking about this?

Proto-Shaman
02-28-2019, 10:46 PM
Yes, every fucking thing on earth is Turkic.
Only Eurasian topics plz.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
02-28-2019, 10:47 PM
I was always proud of my ydna (because of its origin in steppe, its special relationship with horse) but if it has its origins in india.. well that will be a game changer. i don't believe or trust eurocentrists (those who claim r1a/r1b to be european), but i'd prefer to be a descendant of an european than an indian :D

You're R1b and it's origin is still somewhere around the Caspian Sea. It's ancestor R1 wasn't though.

Imperator Biff
02-28-2019, 11:00 PM
R is from P1 which has been found in 30 thousand year old yana ANS samples, but yeah sure it’s from ‘south east asia’ somewhere keep telling yourselves that lol

Token
02-28-2019, 11:05 PM
R is from P1 which has been found in 30 thousand year old yana ANS samples, but yeah sure it’s from ‘south east asia’ somewhere keep telling yourselves that lol

R* was also found in Eastern Siberia not very far from Yana, R1* will be found somewhere in Siberia.

Imperator Biff
02-28-2019, 11:27 PM
R* was also found in Eastern Siberia not very far from Yana, R1* will be found somewhere in Siberia.

Basal P1 has also been found in Ganj_Dareh samples from neolithic Iran along with R2. Easily explained by their ~40% or so ANE admixture. These guys imo probably spread proto-Dravidian dialects into South Asia.

Token
02-28-2019, 11:40 PM
Basal P1 has also been found in Ganj_Dareh samples from neolithic Iran along with R2. Easily explained by their ~40% or so ANE admixture. These guys imo probably spread proto-Dravidian dialects into South Asia.

The P1 was a false call, the sample was actually R2a.

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 12:09 AM
Basal P1 has also been found in Ganj_Dareh samples from neolithic Iran along with R2. Easily explained by their ~40% or so ANE admixture. These guys imo probably spread proto-Dravidian dialects into South Asia.
Can you give links to these basal P1 and R2 samples?

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 12:10 AM
The P1 was a false call, the sample was actually R2a.
And links avaible on the web?

Imperator Biff
03-01-2019, 12:54 AM
And links avaible on the web?
Yeah
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/y-snp-calls-for-i1945/
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/y-snp-calls-for-i1949/

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 01:11 PM
Yeah
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/y-snp-calls-for-i1945/
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/y-snp-calls-for-i1949/
What do you think, were they Dravidian speakers?

And what about P1 carriers in the Pazifics? Did they came from Siberia, or the other way around?

JQP4545
03-01-2019, 07:22 PM
If R1a originated in India then why can't we find Europeans with Indian features?

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 08:30 PM
If R1a originated in India then why can't we find Europeans with Indian features?
R1a in India came from Eastern Europe (Bronze age) and prehistoric Siberia (10.000 BC). These stupid Indians confuse them, one of them is the Hindu-king of TA, BUTTlerking.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-01-2019, 08:33 PM
That's cool, wouldn't mind if true.

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 08:36 PM
That's cool, wouldn't mind if true.
traitor!

where is Rethel when you need him :bounce

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-01-2019, 08:58 PM
traitor!

where is Rethel when you need him :bounce

Why ? India is epic Aryan Land

Ülev
03-01-2019, 09:04 PM
(...)

where is Rethel when you need him :bounce

R1 is conquering Western Europe
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=65896&d=1500676371
pic from Rethelites TA's group ---> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/group.php?groupid=687

Vlatko Vukovic
03-01-2019, 09:09 PM
Why ? India is epic Aryan Land

They can't run from their Turanic R1a-Z93.

Vlatko Vukovic
03-01-2019, 09:09 PM
R1 is conquering Western Europe
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=65896&d=1500676371
pic from Rethelites TA's group ---> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/group.php?groupid=687

I fell in Rethel's eyes, when he heard i am I2a.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-01-2019, 09:36 PM
I fell in Rethel's eyes, when he heard i am I2a.

Would you be happier with R1a ?

Ayetooey
03-01-2019, 09:40 PM
Would you be happier with R1a ?

He is proud of his I2a Kurdish origin.

Vlatko Vukovic
03-01-2019, 09:43 PM
Would you be happier with R1a ?

I won't, he would.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-01-2019, 09:46 PM
Gotta break your Kurdish dreams boyz. Real Kurds like all Aryans and Iranics are R1a xD

Ayetooey
03-01-2019, 09:49 PM
Gotta break your Kurdish dreams boyz. Real Kurds like all Aryans and Iranics are R1a xD

It isn't a dream, more of a nightmare from Kipchak Hĺkan. Proud to be IndI2genous and NatI1ve.

https://buffedwear.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Man-Black-Power-Pride-Beauty-Black.jpg

Vlatko Vukovic
03-01-2019, 09:49 PM
Gotta break your Kurdish dreams boyz. Real Kurds like all Aryans and Iranics are R1a xD

R1a Kurds are assimilated Turanian race. Real Kurds are I2a, even IJ (ancestor of I2a) is from Kurdistan.

Ayetooey
03-01-2019, 09:50 PM
Native pride.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J5oLI8UeR9k/hqdefault.jpg

Vlatko Vukovic
03-01-2019, 09:51 PM
It isn't a dream, more of a nightmare from Kipchak Hĺkan. Proud to be IndI2genous and NatI1ve.

https://buffedwear.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Man-Black-Power-Pride-Beauty-Black.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/05/36/3d0536442ba89ba01d711f1a812bce88.jpg

Token
03-01-2019, 10:01 PM
Regarding the spread of R1 to India, the Rigveda can give us some hints.

He spread the wide earth out and firmly fixed it, smote with his thunderbolt and loosed the waters.
Destruction of IVC water supply systems.

Maghavan with his puissance struck down Ahi, rent Rauhiṇa to death and slaughtered Vyaṁsa.
Maghavan is another name for Indra. Ahi refers to Vritra, the personification of drought and adversary of Indra, classic Indo-European dragon slaying myth. Indra scaling the heavens symbolizes the ascension of the Aryans into supremacy.

armed with his bolt and trusting in his prowess he wandered shattering the forts of Dāsas. Cast thy dart, knowing, Thunderer, at the Dasyu; increase the Ārya's might and glory, Indra.
Dasas/Dasyu explicitly refers to the aboriginal population of India. Forts of Harappan are being struck down here

He, much invoked, hath slain Dasyus and Śimyus, after his wont, and laid them low with arrows.
The mighty Thunderer with his fair-complexioned friends won the land, the sunlight, and the waters.

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 10:22 PM
Why ? India is epic Aryan Land

yeah, with origins in Mongoloid Okunevo culture.

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 10:25 PM
R1 is conquering Western Europe
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=65896&d=1500676371
pic from Rethelites TA's group ---> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/group.php?groupid=687

unfortunately Rethelites declined my request to join, cant see any epic pics.

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 10:28 PM
Why ? India is epic Aryan Land


They can't run from their Turanic R1a-Z93.


https://i.imgur.com/ol4GFLO.gif

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 10:32 PM
He is proud of his I2a Kurdish origin.
https://media.giphy.com/media/PDwkcyYeryacg/giphy.gif
I see, my crowd is growing!

Ayetooey
03-01-2019, 10:35 PM
My ethnicity tab has been updated, I am awoken. Time to red pill TA.

Vlatko Vukovic
03-01-2019, 10:41 PM
My ethnicity tab has been updated, I am awoken. Time to red pill TA.

You're wrong, you're not Slavicized, Kurds and Slavs were the same (Proto-Kurdo-Slavs lived in Kurdistan). Then they splitted, I1 Slavs go in Scandinavia (Swedish name "Ingvar", Slavic "Igor"), but south Slavs I2a stayed in Balkans. Kurds had their own way.

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 11:00 PM
You're wrong, you're not Slavicized, Kurds and Slavs were the same (Proto-Kurdo-Slavs lived in Kurdistan). Then they splitted, I1 Slavs go in Scandinavia (Swedish name "Ingvar", Slavic "Igor"), but south Slavs I2a stayed in Balkans. Kurds had their own way.
You are speaking out of my soul bro!
https://media.giphy.com/media/eHOxorWR8d1mM/giphy.gif

Cristiano viejo
03-01-2019, 11:03 PM
I was always proud of my ydna (because of its origin in steppe, its special relationship with horse) but if it has its origins in india.. well that will be a game changer. i don't believe or trust eurocentrists (those who claim r1a/r1b to be european), but i'd prefer to be a descendant of an european than an indian :D

Always will be better than African e1b1, no? :D

Vlatko Vukovic
03-01-2019, 11:11 PM
The similarities between Baltic and Slavic is because of "inter-lingual" period between Turkic R1a Z280 and Kurdo-Slavic I2a on the border of Pripyat marshes. I can't explaim it otherwise, because I2a is very weak among Balts.

Proto-Shaman
03-01-2019, 11:15 PM
The similarities between Baltic and Slavic is because of "inter-lingual" period between Turkic R1a Z280 and Kurdo-Slavic I2a on the border of Pripyat marshes. I can't explaim it otherwise, because I2a is very weak among Balts.
Not entirely right, but near to it! Baltic states are a mix of Ugric N and proto-Slavized R1a. The meaning of "proto-Slavized R1a" is explained in this professional Turan-Slovenian video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YcUfnM4bUI

Altaylardan Tunaya
03-01-2019, 11:28 PM
Always will be better than African e1b1, no? :D

Yes

Borealis
03-02-2019, 04:57 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/9AFF/production/_90397693_mediaitem90395534.jpg

WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET(with an Indian accent)

Vlatko Vukovic
03-02-2019, 11:08 AM
Not entirely right, but near to it! Baltic states are a mix of Ugric N and proto-Slavized R1a. The meaning of "proto-Slavized R1a" is explained in this professional Turan-Slovenian video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YcUfnM4bUI

This guy knows his roots. He looks very Turkic!

Roy
03-02-2019, 02:29 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/9AFF/production/_90397693_mediaitem90395534.jpg

A true Ar1an.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/9AFF/production/_90397693_mediaitem90395534.jpg

Morena
03-02-2019, 04:25 PM
reconnecting with their roots
https://youtu.be/TfKkCIJD3_0


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Ülev
03-02-2019, 04:36 PM
reconnecting with their roots
https://youtu.be/TfKkCIJD3_0


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Nimbleness,girls&lads, dexterity
btw, I bought 2 t-shirts today... made in Pakistan (I bet R1a Pashtun Pakistan) lol

Ayetooey
04-13-2019, 02:16 PM
Bump. Any sign of this paper?

Dick
04-17-2019, 04:14 AM
Bump. Any sign of this paper?

Nope. The video seems to have been deleted as well.