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Kaspias
03-02-2019, 10:54 AM
He is from Veliko Tarnovo. Speaking Bulgarian as L1 and identify himself as Bulgarian.


y-DNA: G2
mt-DNA: U3b


Eurogenes K13


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.23
2 Baltic 20.44
3 East_Med 19.44
4 West_Med 18.29
5 West_Asian 13.5
6 Siberian 1.68
7 Sub-Saharan 0.94
8 Red_Sea 0.85
9 Oceanian 0.47
10 Amerindian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.61
2 Romanian 4.81
3 Serbian 8.73
4 Greek_Thessaly 8.85
5 Tuscan 12.87
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.48
7 North_Italian 13.55
8 Moldavian 14.71
9 Central_Greek 14.87
10 West_Sicilian 15.47
11 East_Sicilian 16.31
12 Hungarian 16.34
13 Croatian 17.63
14 Austrian 18.25
15 Ashkenazi 18.58
16 South_Italian 18.9
17 Portuguese 19.55
18 French 19.58
19 West_German 20.13
20 Spanish_Extremadura 20.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.2% Romanian + 22.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.83
2 52.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 47.7% Moldavian @ 3.03
3 83.5% Romanian + 16.5% South_Italian @ 3.1
4 80.9% Romanian + 19.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.21
5 80.2% Romanian + 19.8% Central_Greek @ 3.21
6 65.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 34.2% Ukrainian @ 3.21
7 57% Italian_Abruzzo + 43% Croatian @ 3.34
8 82.4% Romanian + 17.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.4
9 65.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 34.9% South_Polish @ 3.4
10 52.5% Central_Greek + 47.5% Hungarian @ 3.41
11 87.5% Bulgarian + 12.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.45
12 78.7% Romanian + 21.3% Tuscan @ 3.45
13 64.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 35.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.48
14 81.3% Bulgarian + 18.7% North_Italian @ 3.49
15 91.8% Romanian + 8.2% Armenian @ 3.52
16 88.2% Romanian + 11.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.52
17 89.5% Romanian + 10.5% Turkish @ 3.55
18 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.59
19 62% Serbian + 38% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.59
20 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Tuscan @ 3.6




Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 17.26
2 Atlantic 16.81
3 North_Sea 15.11
4 Baltic 13.74
5 West_Med 13.49
6 West_Asian 12.23
7 Eastern_Euro 8.15
8 Red_Sea 1.06
9 Siberian 1
10 Sub-Saharan 0.8
11 Oceanian 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.79
2 Romanian 4.46
3 Serbian 7.9
4 Greek_Thessaly 8.53
5 Greek 8.81
6 Tuscan 11.31
7 Italian_Abruzzo 12.22
8 North_Italian 12.88
9 Moldavian 13.44
10 Central_Greek 13.51
11 West_Sicilian 14.25
12 Ashkenazi 14.29
13 Austrian 14.3
14 East_Sicilian 14.58
15 Hungarian 14.95
16 Croatian 15.03
17 South_Italian 16.86
18 Portuguese 18.23
19 Spanish_Galicia 18.39
20 French 18.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% Romanian + 23.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.52
2 79.5% Romanian + 20.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.61
3 82.2% Romanian + 17.8% South_Italian @ 2.62
4 79.1% Romanian + 20.9% Central_Greek @ 2.78
5 70.6% Romanian + 29.4% Greek @ 2.8
6 76.6% Greek + 23.4% North_Swedish @ 2.85
7 76.9% Greek + 23.1% Swedish @ 2.92
8 76.5% Romanian + 23.5% Tuscan @ 2.94
9 81% Romanian + 19% East_Sicilian @ 2.95
10 55.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 44.6% Croatian @ 2.96
11 87% Romanian + 13% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.97
12 86.3% Romanian + 13.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.97
13 63.9% Greek + 36.1% Hungarian @ 2.97
14 68.8% Greek + 31.2% East_German @ 2.99
15 64.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 35.7% South_Polish @ 2.99
16 65% Italian_Abruzzo + 35% Ukrainian @ 3.02
17 82.8% Bulgarian + 17.2% Tuscan @ 3.05
18 75.4% Greek + 24.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.05
19 87% Romanian + 13% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.07
20 52.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 47.5% Moldavian @ 3.08



PuntDNAL K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 38.68
2 Mediterranean 32.83
3 Caucasian 19.2
4 SW_Asian 6.74
5 Siberian 1.51
6 Omo_River 0.72
7 Oceanian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.18
2 Macedonian 4.3
3 Romanian 4.42
4 Montenegrin 4.74
5 Bosnian 6.18
6 Italian 7.07
7 Greek_Thessaly 7.68
8 Albanian 9.2
9 Greek_Central 9.84
10 Serbian 10.02
11 Tuscan 10.62
12 French 13.83
13 Spaniard 14.71
14 Portuguese 15.25
15 Croatian 15.34
16 South_German 15.71
17 Brazilian 16.09
18 Utahn_White 16.41
19 Hungarian 17.39
20 Austrian 18.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.9% Greek_Thessaly + 19.1% Mordovian @ 1.7
2 82% Greek_Thessaly + 18% Finnish @ 1.76
3 77.6% Serbian + 22.4% Cypriot @ 1.81
4 81.1% Greek_Thessaly + 18.9% Russian @ 1.81
5 91% Macedonian + 9% Druze @ 1.84
6 90.9% Macedonian + 9.1% Assyrian @ 1.87
7 64% Bosnian + 36% Tuscan @ 1.91
8 81.6% Greek_Thessaly + 18.4% Karelian @ 1.94
9 91.4% Macedonian + 8.6% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.95
10 55.9% Bosnian + 44.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.96
11 91.1% Macedonian + 8.9% Armenian @ 1.97
12 71.7% Macedonian + 28.3% Greek_Central @ 1.99
13 76.7% Greek_Central + 23.3% Mordovian @ 2.02
14 89.5% Macedonian + 10.5% Turk_Kayseri @ 2.06
15 90% Macedonian + 10% Cypriot @ 2.07
16 78% Greek_Central + 22% Finnish @ 2.08
17 60.6% Bosnian + 39.4% Albanian @ 2.09
18 57.9% Swedish + 42.1% Cypriot @ 2.11
19 65.6% Greek_Central + 34.4% Austrian @ 2.11
20 50.5% Greek_Central + 49.5% Serbian @ 2.14



MDLP K23b


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.36
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 27.57
3 European_Early_Farmers 18.74
4 Near_East 6.75
5 South_Central_Asian 3.35
6 North_African 2.19
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.11
8 South_Indian 1.06
9 East_Siberian 0.9
10 Paleo_Siberian 0.75
11 Amerindian 0.59
12 African_Pygmy 0.5
13 Australoid 0.06
14 Archaic_Human 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian ( ) 2.09
2 Bulgarian ( ) 2.71
3 Montenegrian ( ) 3.72
4 Serb_BH ( ) 5.66
5 Croat ( ) 5.88
6 Bosnian ( ) 6.28
7 Serb_Serbia ( ) 6.38
8 Croat_BH ( ) 6.62
9 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 6.75
10 Romanian ( ) 7.17
11 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 7.22
12 Greek_Northwest ( ) 7.22
13 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 7.23
14 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 7.8
15 Gagauz ( ) 8.2
16 Kosovar ( ) 8.52
17 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 8.56
18 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 8.98
19 Sicilian_West ( ) 9.11
20 Ashkenazi ( ) 9.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.3% Greek ( ) + 37.7% German ( ) @ 1.28
2 82.9% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 17.1% Karelian ( ) @ 1.38
3 69.9% Greek ( ) + 30.1% Finn_West ( ) @ 1.42
4 56.5% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 43.5% Austrian ( ) @ 1.44
5 50% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) + 50% Greek ( ) @ 1.46
6 75% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 25% Russian-West ( ) @ 1.47
7 50.2% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) + 49.8% Greek_Phokaia ( ) @ 1.47
8 82.3% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 17.7% Vepsa ( ) @ 1.48
9 80.1% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 19.9% Russian_Vologda ( ) @ 1.48
10 52.3% Greek ( ) + 47.7% Hungarian ( ) @ 1.48
11 77.5% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 22.5% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 1.51
12 73.5% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 26.5% Russian_South ( ) @ 1.51
13 75.9% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 24.1% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.51
14 78.6% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 21.4% Erzya ( ) @ 1.52
15 68% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 32% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 1.52
16 72.9% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 27.1% Belarusian-East ( ) @ 1.53
17 59.2% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) + 40.8% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.55
18 77% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 23% Moksha ( ) @ 1.56
19 76.5% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 23.5% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 1.56
20 82.3% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 17.7% Finn ( ) @ 1.56



MDLP K16


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.08
2 Neolithic 25.86
3 NorthEastEuropean 18.39
4 Steppe 15.66
5 NearEast 3.8
6 Amerindian 0.9
7 NorthAfrican 0.53
8 Siberian 0.41
9 Australian 0.21
10 Indian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 2.67
2 Macedonian (Macedonia) 3.42
3 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 3.44
4 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 3.8
5 Kosovar (Kosovo) 3.93
6 Romanian (Gorj) 5.24
7 Greek (Thessaloniki) 5.26
8 Albanian (Albania) 5.38
9 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 5.43
10 Greek (Greece) 5.51
11 Romanian (Romania) 5.82
12 Romanian (Apuseni) 6.19
13 Greek (Peloponnes) 6.35
14 Serbian (Serbia) 6.43
15 Italian (Friul) 7.35
16 Moldavian (Molodva) 7.53
17 Italian (NorthIitaly) 7.62
18 Greek (Macedonia) 7.9
19 Italian (Tuscany) 8.18
20 Italian (Abruzzo) 8.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.5% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 19.5% Greek (Greece) @ 1.65
2 54.7% Greek (Greece) + 45.3% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 1.72
3 70.5% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 29.5% Greek (Greece) @ 1.72
4 71.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 28.6% Greek (Thessaloniki) @ 1.78
5 66.6% Serbian (Serbia) + 33.4% Greek (Greece) @ 1.78
6 92.3% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 7.7% Turk (Trabzon) @ 1.79
7 56.8% Greek (Greece) + 43.2% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 1.8
8 72.6% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 27.4% Greek (Macedonia) @ 1.81
9 91.8% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 8.2% Armenian (Armenia) @ 1.81
10 60.4% Greek (Athens) + 39.6% Pole (EastPoland) @ 1.83
11 92.1% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 7.9% Jew (Georgia) @ 1.85
12 50.5% Croat (Croatia) + 49.5% Greek (Athens) @ 1.85
13 73% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 27% Greek (Greece) @ 1.85
14 92.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 7.4% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 1.86
15 72.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 27.4% Albanian (Albania) @ 1.86
16 89.4% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 10.6% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 1.87
17 87.2% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 12.8% Turk (Trabzon) @ 1.88
18 91% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 9% Druze (Mount_Carmel) @ 1.9
19 64% Greek (Greece) + 36% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 1.92
20 59.2% Greek (Athens) + 40.8% Slovak (Slovakia) @ 1.94



Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 31.74
2 Atlantic_Med 27
3 Caucasus 26.51
4 Southwest_Asian 6.84
5 Gedrosia 5.71
6 Northwest_African 0.87
7 Siberian 0.74
8 Southeast_Asian 0.41
9 South_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 5.72
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 5.77
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 6.55
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.23
5 Greek (Dodecad) 14.86
6 N_Italian (Dodecad) 15.57
7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.98
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.16
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.26
10 Hungarians (Behar) 18.25
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.59
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.26
13 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.27
14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.57
15 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.78
16 German (Dodecad) 22.48
17 French (Dodecad) 23.68
18 French (HGDP) 23.73
19 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 24.9
20 Baleares (1000Genomes) 25.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.96
2 53.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.98
3 60.5% German (Dodecad) + 39.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.32
4 76.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.34
5 53.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.36
6 83.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 2.38
7 69.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.48
8 77.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 22.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.48
9 84.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 2.48
10 83.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 2.49
11 85.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.8% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 2.5
12 85.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.1% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 2.52
13 83.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 2.59
14 55.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 44.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.62
15 85.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.6% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 2.63
16 74.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.64
17 54.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.65
18 69.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.65
19 83.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 2.66
20 84.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.1% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 2.67



Eurogenes K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.55 Pct
Armenian 2.08 Pct
Basque 1.53 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.94 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.40 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.42 Pct
East_Med 4.72 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.33 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.03 Pct
French 2.71 Pct
Iberian 9.93 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 20.33 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.02 Pct
North_African 0.09 Pct
North_Atlantic 2.28 Pct
North_Caucasian 8.24 Pct
North_Sea 5.91 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.05 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.07 Pct
West_Med 2.36 Pct


Similarity Map:

https://i.ibb.co/9YkY9Sq/lebeleb.png

CommonSense
03-02-2019, 11:21 AM
Which clade of G2a does he belong to?

Kaspias
03-02-2019, 11:50 AM
Which clade of G2a does he belong to?

Don't know

Ryuk
03-02-2019, 11:51 AM
He has %1 siberian in K15,but I think this is a result of high Baltic/North European ancestry.Because of existing high ANE presence of those location,siberian compound give us a fack signal.If he had a Turkic ancestry he also should been bear some east asian signal

Bosniensis
03-02-2019, 12:12 PM
He has %1 siberian in K15,but I think this is a result of high Baltic/North European ancestry.Because of existing high ANE presence of those location,siberian compound give us a fack signal.If he had a Turkic ancestry he also should been bear some east asian signal

That's enough for him to declare as Balkan Turk I think.

If 8% is for real Turks, then 1% is good enough for Balkan Turks.

I have 0.5% so I am still not Balkan Turk.

Ryuk
03-02-2019, 12:16 PM
That's enough for him to declare as Balkan Turk I think.

If 8% is for real Turks, then 1% is good enough for Balkan Turks.

Only recently mixed marriages can have this low Eastern Eurasian compound.

Normally, this ratio is between 3-10% in Balkan Turks.

Bosniensis
03-02-2019, 12:18 PM
Only recently mixed marriages can have this low Eastern Eurasian compound.

Normally, this ratio is between 3-10% in Balkan Turks.

Once Turkish girl kissed me, and my Eastern Eurasian jumped by 0.3%

Sikeliot
03-02-2019, 12:43 PM
Bulgarians are closer to other Balkan Slavs and mainland Greeks, but what I find interesting is they are closer to Italians (even Sicilians) than to non-Balkan Slavs, and closer to Iberian than to Russian.

Bosniensis
03-02-2019, 01:00 PM
Bulgarians are closer to other Balkan Slavs and mainland Greeks, but what I find interesting is they are closer to Italians (even Sicilians) than to non-Balkan Slavs, and closer to Iberian than to Russian.

Because Serbs, Bulgarians were part of Byzantine aristocracy, soldiery, commoners for 1000 years from 5th century A.D to 1453 A.D.

Can you imagine how many Byzantine (Greco-Italian) people mixed with Bulgarians in that period?

Kaspias
03-02-2019, 01:44 PM
Bulgarians are closer to other Balkan Slavs and mainland Greeks, but what I find interesting is they are closer to Italians (even Sicilians) than to non-Balkan Slavs, and closer to Iberian than to Russian.

This sample is not typical for Bulgarians. I suspect he is Vlach. Bulgarian average is closer to Russians.



Because Serbs, Bulgarians were part of Byzantine aristocracy, soldiery, commoners for 1000 years from 5th century A.D to 1453 A.D.

Can you imagine how many Byzantine (Greco-Italian) people mixed with Bulgarians in that period?


Balkan_BA was carrying high amount of ENF. It is not about Greek or Italian mixing.

Sikeliot
03-02-2019, 01:50 PM
This sample is not typical for Bulgarians. I suspect he is Vlach. Bulgarian average is closer to Russians.

I don't believe this considering this person is very close to the Bulgarian reference panel.

Kaspias
03-02-2019, 01:53 PM
I don't believe this considering this person is very close to the Bulgarian reference panel.

Yeah 24 NA 20 Baltic is very typical Bulgarian.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-02-2019, 01:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/30G31KM.png

He's pretty close to Bulgarian average on PCA.

Pribislav
03-02-2019, 02:01 PM
This sample is not typical for Bulgarians. I suspect he is Vlach. Bulgarian average is closer to Russians.





Balkan_BA was carrying high amount of ENF. It is not about Greek or Italian mixing.

His results are similar as Aromanian from Bitola whose results I posted.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-02-2019, 02:03 PM
His results are similar as Aromanian from Bitola whose results I posted.

They are not. I don't think Aromanians cluster anywhere close to Bulgarian average on PCA. Probably much closer to Greeks.

Kaspias
03-02-2019, 02:07 PM
They are not. I don't think Aromanians cluster anywhere close to Bulgarian average on PCA. Probably much closer to Greeks.

I have Vlach sample. I don't have permission to post it. Very similar to this Bulgarian and have nothing to do with Greeks.

Pribislav
03-02-2019, 02:07 PM
They are not. I don't think Aromanians cluster anywhere close to Bulgarian average on PCA. Probably much closer to Greeks.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276039-Aromanian-from-Macedonia-Northern-Epiri

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-02-2019, 02:10 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?276039-Aromanian-from-Macedonia-Northern-Epiri

If you have his K15 I can add him to PCA.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
03-02-2019, 02:13 PM
I have Vlach sample. I don't have permission to post it. Very similar to this Bulgarian and have nothing to do with Greeks.

Aren't Aromanians genetically pretty close to Albos and mainland Greeks ?

Pribislav
03-02-2019, 02:17 PM
If you have his K15 I can add him to PCA.

I will see later.

Kaspias
03-02-2019, 02:43 PM
Aren't Aromanians genetically pretty close to Albos and mainland Greeks ?

His nMonte was something like 75 Bulgarian 25 Romanian. Living in Greek Macedonia.

Coolguy1
03-02-2019, 03:10 PM
Seems a bit Albanian shifted actually.