Ancient Croatia J2b2a

[Peterski]

As requested I uploaded also I4331 Ancient Croatia with Y-DNA haplogroup J2b2a.

GEDmatch Genesis kit number - RL6378186

This male sample plots similar as the other Bronze Age Dalmatian (woman I3313):

Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.44
2 West_Med 22.65
3 Atlantic 22.42
4 East_Med 15.28
5 West_Asian 8.93
6 Baltic 4.91
7 Eastern_Euro 1.65
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Amerindian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 6.76
2 Portuguese 8.96
3 Spanish_Galicia 9.36
4 Spanish_Extremadura 9.87
5 Spanish_Cataluna 9.96
6 Spanish_Murcia 10.16
7 Tuscan 10.54
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.91
9 Spanish_Andalucia 11.83
10 Spanish_Valencia 12.28
11 French 12.71
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.77
13 Spanish_Cantabria 13.24
14 Spanish_Aragon 14.36
15 Southwest_French 15.29
16 Greek_Thessaly 16.34
17 Italian_Abruzzo 16.42
18 West_Sicilian 16.96
19 South_Dutch 17.54
20 West_German 17.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% West_German @ 5.97
2 88.7% North_Italian + 11.3% Orcadian @ 6.02
3 90.2% North_Italian + 9.8% West_Norwegian @ 6.09
4 87.6% North_Italian + 12.4% Southwest_English @ 6.14
5 80% North_Italian + 20% French @ 6.17
6 89.1% North_Italian + 10.9% Southeast_English @ 6.24
7 90.9% North_Italian + 9.1% Norwegian @ 6.25
8 90.3% North_Italian + 9.7% North_Dutch @ 6.26
9 90.7% North_Italian + 9.3% West_Scottish @ 6.29
10 86.2% Portuguese + 13.8% Armenian @ 6.31
11 90.8% North_Italian + 9.2% Irish @ 6.33
12 91.8% North_Italian + 8.2% Swedish @ 6.34
13 85.3% Spanish_Galicia + 14.7% Armenian @ 6.35
14 91.2% North_Italian + 8.8% Danish @ 6.36
15 75.2% North_Italian + 24.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.38
16 88.7% North_Italian + 11.3% South_Dutch @ 6.43
17 76.7% North_Italian + 23.3% Portuguese @ 6.5
18 92.4% North_Italian + 7.6% North_German @ 6.51
19 84.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.9% Armenian @ 6.51
20 55.2% Spanish_Galicia + 44.8% Tuscan @ 6.54

https://i.imgur.com/If8VDiT.png

Similarity Map:

https://i.imgur.com/cyF1F2i.png

[Pubiczar]

Minimum threshold to be included: 50

Largest segment = 4.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 352.2 cM (9.830 Pct)

237 shared segments found for this comparison.

251321 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.564 Pct SNPs are full identical


Minimum threshold to be included: default 200-400

Largest segment = 3.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 3.2 cM (0.088 Pct)

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

251321 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.564 Pct SNPs are full identical

[Kaspias]

Minimum threshold to be included: 50

Largest segment = 4.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 352.2 cM (9.830 Pct)

237 shared segments found for this comparison.

251321 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.564 Pct SNPs are full identical


Minimum threshold to be included: default 200-400

Largest segment = 3.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 3.2 cM (0.088 Pct)

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

251321 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.564 Pct SNPs are full identical

You can match with everyone if set minimum threshold to 50. Just make minimum segment cM size 0.1. This will be enough to see if you have match.

--No shared DNA segments found

[Pubiczar]

We wuz Illyrians n shiet!

[Peterski]

Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.32
2 West_Med 26.54
3 East_Med 18.52
4 Baltic 11
5 West_Asian 8.45
6 Red_Sea 0.92
7 Amerindian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 3.55
2 Spanish_Andalucia 7.92
3 Spanish_Extremadura 7.97
4 Portuguese 8.34
5 Spanish_Valencia 8.59
6 Spanish_Murcia 8.74
7 Tuscan 9.11
8 Spanish_Cataluna 9.17
9 Spanish_Galicia 9.71
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 9.86
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.94
12 Spanish_Cantabria 11.66
13 Spanish_Aragon 12.39
14 Southwest_French 13.17
15 French 13.69
16 West_Sicilian 15.8
17 Italian_Abruzzo 15.84
18 Greek_Thessaly 16.64
19 Romanian 17.28
20 Bulgarian 18.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.9% North_Italian + 9.1% French_Basque @ 2.64
2 77% North_Italian + 23% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.77
3 54.8% Southwest_French + 45.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.78
4 84.2% Spanish_Valencia + 15.8% Armenian @ 2.81
5 85.2% North_Italian + 14.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87
6 81.2% North_Italian + 18.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.92
7 82.4% North_Italian + 17.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.93
8 80.3% North_Italian + 19.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.94
9 84.5% Spanish_Valencia + 15.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.96
10 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.01
11 87.4% North_Italian + 12.6% Southwest_French @ 3.03
12 65.9% Spanish_Valencia + 34.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.05
13 70.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 29.3% South_Italian @ 3.05
14 70.7% Spanish_Valencia + 29.3% Central_Greek @ 3.06
15 82.5% North_Italian + 17.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.1
16 69.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.8% Central_Greek @ 3.14
17 58% Spanish_Cantabria + 42% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.18
18 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.18
19 69.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 30.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.19
20 82.6% North_Italian + 17.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.2

[Pubiczar]

You can match with everyone if set minimum threshold to 50. Just make minimum segment cM size 0.1. This will be enough to see if you have match.

--No shared DNA segments found

As you see, on default, without adjusting the minimum threshold, I match him with 3.2 cM large segment!

[Ayetooey]

50 SNP

Largest segment = 4.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 348.8 cM (9.736 Pct)

200-400 SNP (default SNP)

Largest segment = 1.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1.1 cM (0.031 Pct)

[Kaspias]

As you see, on default, without adjusting the minimum threshold, I match him with 3.2 cM large segment!I haven't said you haven't matched

[Ford]

Minimum threshold to be included: 50

Largest segment = 8.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 203.0 cM (5.673 Pct)

74 shared segments found for this comparison.

74319 SNPs used for this comparison.

51.568 Pct SNPs are full identical

Nothing found at 200-400 threshold

[Carpatz]

SNP window size threshold. 200-400
Largest segment = 3.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 3.3 cM (0.091 Pct)

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

246269 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.373 Pct SNPs are full identical

SNP window size threshold. 50
Largest segment = 4.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 371.8 cM (10.378 Pct)

242 shared segments found for this comparison.

246269 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.373 Pct SNPs are full identical

[Dick]

No shared DNA segments found

263207 SNPs used for this comparison.

[CommonSense]

No shared segments found with default SNP value (200-400), same as with the last sample.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

So Bronze Age Dalmatians were basically like modern SW Europeans.

[Moje ime]

No shared DNA segments found

[Ayetooey]

So Bronze Age Dalmatians were basically like modern SW Europeans.

Are you related to this one brother?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

with 50 SNPs

Largest segment = 4.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 22.4 cM (0.624 Pct)

6 shared segments found for this comparison.

222727 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.238 Pct SNPs are full identical

[tipirneni]

Largest segment = 4.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 23.6 cM (0.658 Pct)

12 shared segments found for this comparison.

250861 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.486 Pct SNPs are full identical


Genesis GED Matching with South Indian (me). I get bigger hits on Italian Tuscan on Genesis too.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Are you related to this one brother?

Ofc cuz.

[Moje ime]

with 50 SNPs

Largest segment = 4.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 22.4 cM (0.624 Pct)

6 shared segments found for this comparison.

222727 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.238 Pct SNPs are full identical

Everybody are related with 50SNPs. I also get 3.7 with 50SNPs.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Aryan BA connection


Largest segment = 4.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 23.6 cM (0.658 Pct)

12 shared segments found for this comparison.

250861 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.486 Pct SNPs are full identical


Genesis GED Matching with South Indian (me). I get bigger hits on Italian Tuscan on Genesis too.

[tipirneni]

Aryan BA connection

All the segments I get match segments look like East Med, West Med, West Asian & Atlantic

[Ayetooey]

Official call out to Doctor Gedza. I have proved my ancient connection. Come here and prove yours brother.

[Pubiczar]

So far without adjusting the threshold:

I5769 Iron Age Bulgaria
Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 15,599,160 17,699,337 3.3 228

Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
14 90,315,193 92,167,525 3.9 200

I4331 Ancient Croatia J2b2a
Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
14 98,263,147 99,480,395 3.2 236

I3313 Dalmatia Bronze Age
Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
7 97,119,476 99,758,136 2.6 203

I have to correct myself, We wuz Thracians n shiet

Sorry Bosniensis

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Everybody are related with 50SNPs. I also get 3.7 with 50SNPs.

I don't match this sample unadjusted, but I match other BA Dalmatian in both methods.

[Vid Flumina]

Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.44
2 West_Med 22.65
3 Atlantic 22.42
4 East_Med 15.28
5 West_Asian 8.93
6 Baltic 4.91
7 Eastern_Euro 1.65
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Amerindian 0.01



Pretty much same as mine, just with lower Baltic and higher Med:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.6
2 West_Med 21.11
3 Atlantic 20.94
4 East_Med 11.19
5 Baltic 10.41
6 West_Asian 9.65
7 Eastern_Euro 1.56
8 Southeast_Asian 1.17
9 Sub-Saharan 0.37

[Slavic Italian]

I match him at 2.1 cM.

[nittionia]

My dad is J2b2 and matches him:
https://i.imgur.com/WxrlGct.jpg


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[Kamal900]

No shared DNA segments found

251909 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.302 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.037 cpu seconds.

[Mingle]

Which time period is this from? Is this one also Bronze Age?

[dududud]

Wow! Interesting!

[North Sea]

Largest segment = 3.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 242.6 cM (6.772 Pct)

165 shared segments found for this comparison.

253237 SNPs used for this comparison.

54.544 Pct SNPs are full identical

[MagnusDark]

Me:

Largest segment = 3.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 247.0 cM (6.893 Pct)

173 shared segments found for this comparison.

253741 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.621 Pct SNPs are full identical
B]Me:[/B]



Father:

Largest segment = 3.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 279.6 cM (7.804 Pct)

201 shared segments found for this comparison.

250430 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.283 Pct SNPs are full identical

Mother:

Largest segment = 2.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 217.5 cM (6.072 Pct)

152 shared segments found for this comparison.

215359 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.239 Pct SNPs are full identical

[MagnusDark]

Everybody are related with 50SNPs. I also get 3.7 with 50SNPs.

Yes and no. Chances of getting between 200-400 matching SNPs from the ancient past to modern time is about nada. Lowering the threshold reveals shares fragments of dna. Looking for large matching chunks in the past won’t happen.

[Moje ime]

Yes and no. Chances of getting between 200-400 matching SNPs from the ancient past to modern time is about nada. Lowering the threshold reveals shares fragments of dna. Looking for large matching chunks in the past won’t happen.

I've seen that happens, nothing unusual.