Former Yugoslavia K15 PCA

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Anđelko made it. Detailed regional divisions.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qk4qhfm06zxu9x/K15FormerYugoslaviaOnly.png?dl=0

[Tschaikisten]

I am alone.

https://i.imgur.com/CiAiSsx.png

[Bosniensis]

I am not on it... even though I was spamming my K15 for the last 2 years...

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I am not on it... even though I was spamming my K15 for the last 2 years...

Can't find myself either. Looks good to get general idea though.

[CommonSense]

How does this one differ from the other PCAs? Strange how Jana and her parents are outliers here, when the calculators show they are normal Croats.


I am not on it... even though I was spamming my K15 for the last 2 years...

You are right in the middle of it. It didn't even take me a minute to find you :D

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

How does this one differ from the other PCAs? Strange how Jana and her parents are outliers here, when the calculators show they are normal Croats.

You are right in the middle of it. It didn't even take me a minute to find you :D

How does this PCA function though ? It's more refined compared to primitive tool I was using.

[Dick]

i am dink


https://i.imgur.com/Rzlkbcv.png

[Peterski]

They should add my ancient Balkan samples. :)

[CommonSense]

Here's the PCA together with the components. Should be a bit easier to analyse now:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/76uwomyaz26hg9v/BiplotK15Yugo.png?dl=0

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Here's the PCA together with the components. Should be a bit easier to analyse now:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/76uwomyaz26hg9v/BiplotK15Yugo.png?dl=0

Yes, seems like Jana is outlier in a way because of her abnormal (for this region, at least) North Sea admixture. I would really like to see myself on this , but looks like Anđelko left me out.

[CommonSense]

Yes, seems like Jana is outlier in a way because of her abnormal (for this region, at least) North Sea admixture. I would really like to see myself on this , but looks like Anđelko left me out.

That's because you didn't spam your results all over the various autosomal threads like myself and Sinan did :) I also wondered why I'm an outlier here, when I'm usually not, it seems it's because of the high North See and low Atlantic that I score.

[Lucas]

BTW he has Croat samples from Burgernland (Gradišćanski Hrvati)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgenland_Croats

I want to see if they are more similar to Slovenes than to Croats? I know there are probably from NW Bosnia but they should have Austrian admix too.

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Second thing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molise_Croats :)

[dududud]

Interesting PCA.

[ph2ter]

BTW he has Croat samples from Burgernland (Gradišćanski Hrvati)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgenland_Croats

I want to see if they are more similar to Slovenes than to Croats? I know there are probably from NW Bosnia but they should have Austrian admix too.

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Second thing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molise_Croats :)

Burgenland Croats plot from Banovina Croats to north. Very logical, because Banovina is next to NW Bosnia.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4hy2mm5lyij92c/K15FormerYugoslavia3.png?dl=0

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Burgenland Croats plot from Banovina Croats to north. Very logical, because Banovina is next to NW Bosnia.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4hy2mm5lyij92c/K15FormerYugoslavia3.png?dl=0

Hello mate, you are Anđelko ? Welcome.

Could you add me to PCA ?

North_Sea 25.10 Pct
Atlantic 17.00 Pct
Baltic 19.52 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.91 Pct
West_Med 8.93 Pct
West_Asian 9.64 Pct
East_Med 6.77 Pct
Red_Sea 0.97 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.87 Pct
Oceanian 0.13 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.15 Pct

[ph2ter]

Hello mate, you are Anđelko ? Welcome.

Could you add me to PCA ?

North_Sea 25.10 Pct
Atlantic 17.00 Pct
Baltic 19.52 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.91 Pct
West_Med 8.93 Pct
West_Asian 9.64 Pct
East_Med 6.77 Pct
Red_Sea 0.97 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.87 Pct
Oceanian 0.13 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.15 Pct
Yes, I am. Thanks.
You are red plus "Hrvoje":
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vilnzowkbx513um/HrvojeK15Yugo.png?dl=0

[Moje ime]

...

Population
North_Sea 19.29
Atlantic 19.32
Baltic 18.62
Eastern_Euro 9.03
West_Med 9.65
West_Asian 10.44
East_Med 11.87
Red_Sea 1.22
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.25
Northeast_African 0.31
Sub-Saharan -

Can you add me?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Looks like I am in Burgerland Croat cluster.

[ph2ter]

Population
North_Sea 19.29
Atlantic 19.32
Baltic 18.62
Eastern_Euro 9.03
West_Med 9.65
West_Asian 10.44
East_Med 11.87
Red_Sea 1.22
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.25
Northeast_African 0.31
Sub-Saharan -

Can you add me?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/285507sfpsf26xw/MojeImeK15Yugo.png?dl=0

[Lucas]

@ph2ter

Can you add this result... ? It is noisy because of phasing.

North_Sea 13.24 Pct
Atlantic 17.44 Pct
Baltic 24.08 Pct
Eastern_Euro 15.07 Pct
West_Med 8.94 Pct
West_Asian 6.36 Pct
East_Med 5.92 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.76 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.83 Pct
Siberian 0.26 Pct
Amerindian 0.82 Pct
Oceanian 1.34 Pct
Northeast_African 1.06 Pct
Sub-Saharan 2.87 Pct


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.43
2 Moldavian 7.96
3 South_Polish 9.82
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.23
5 Austrian 10.66
6 Russian_Smolensk 10.66
7 Ukrainian 10.72
8 Hungarian 11.08
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.29
10 Polish 11.52
11 Southwest_Russian 11.77
12 Serbian 12.27
13 Estonian_Polish 12.87
14 Belorussian 13.07
15 Romanian 13.24
16 East_German 14.29
17 Bulgarian 14.5
18 Kargopol_Russian 15.25
19 Lithuanian 16.38
20 Estonian 16.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.1% Croatian + 3.9% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.17

[ph2ter]

@ph2ter

Can you add this result... ? It is noisy because of phasing.

North_Sea 13.24 Pct
Atlantic 17.44 Pct
Baltic 24.08 Pct
Eastern_Euro 15.07 Pct
West_Med 8.94 Pct
West_Asian 6.36 Pct
East_Med 5.92 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.76 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.83 Pct
Siberian 0.26 Pct
Amerindian 0.82 Pct
Oceanian 1.34 Pct
Northeast_African 1.06 Pct
Sub-Saharan 2.87 Pct


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.43
2 Moldavian 7.96
3 South_Polish 9.82
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.23
5 Austrian 10.66
6 Russian_Smolensk 10.66
7 Ukrainian 10.72
8 Hungarian 11.08
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.29
10 Polish 11.52
11 Southwest_Russian 11.77
12 Serbian 12.27
13 Estonian_Polish 12.87
14 Belorussian 13.07
15 Romanian 13.24
16 East_German 14.29
17 Bulgarian 14.5
18 Kargopol_Russian 15.25
19 Lithuanian 16.38
20 Estonian 16.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.1% Croatian + 3.9% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.17

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wz5pkdrjyb1bhd6/K15Yugo%20Anonimous.png?dl=0
He is Anonimous.

Did you see Burgenland Croats?
They are spreading from Banovina towards Austria.

[Lucas]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wz5pkdrjyb1bhd6/K15Yugo%20Anonimous.png?dl=0
He is Anonimous.

Actually she is my wife. Phased from our daughter result. She isn't tested yet but she is mysteriously Croat-like in K15 and K36:)



Did you see Burgenland Croats?
They are spreading from Banovina towards Austria.

Yes, I saw them. Thank you, result is cool. And what would be expected from theyr history.

[Peterski]

Guys, add ancient Yugoslavian samples (my uploads to Genesis):

I3313 Dalmatia Bronze Age:

Population
North_Sea 18.38 Pct
Atlantic 29.13 Pct
Baltic 6.34 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.81 Pct
West_Med 19.31 Pct
West_Asian 8.49 Pct
East_Med 11.43 Pct
Red_Sea 3.12 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

I5769 Iron Age Bulgaria:

Population
North_Sea 15.14 Pct
Atlantic 12.54 Pct
Baltic 3.65 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 28.65 Pct
West_Asian 9.66 Pct
East_Med 26.64 Pct
Red_Sea 3.72 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

I4331 Ancient Croatia J2b2a:

Population
North_Sea 23.44 Pct
Atlantic 22.42 Pct
Baltic 4.91 Pct
Eastern_Euro 1.65 Pct
West_Med 22.65 Pct
West_Asian 8.93 Pct
East_Med 15.28 Pct
Red_Sea 0.72 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

I2163 Bronze Age Bulgaria:

Population
North_Sea 35.52 Pct
Atlantic 13.45 Pct
Baltic 13.65 Pct
Eastern_Euro 19.23 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 12.95 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 3.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 2.05 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[ph2ter]

Actually she is my wife. Phased from our daughter result. She isn't tested yet but she is mysteriously Croat-like in K15 and K36:)
She's maybe White Croat :-)




Yes, I saw them. Thank you, result is cool. And what would be expected from theyr history.
Knowing that they came from NW Bosnia and that they are admixed with Austrians and Hungarians their position on PCA is perfectly expected.

[ph2ter]

Guys, add ancient Yugoslavian samples (my uploads to Genesis):

I3313 Dalmatia Bronze Age:

I5769 Iron Age Bulgaria:


I4331 Ancient Croatia J2b2a:

I2163 Bronze Age Bulgaria:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wgoxfevlrtz75ao/K15YugoWithAncients.png?dl=0

[Peterski]

She's maybe White Croat :-)

I have Polish Upper Silesian kits (with GEDCOM, so there is no mistake: they are native to Silesia) who plot VERY southern for Poles:

https://i.imgur.com/ZvMEbeu.png

^^^ White Croat / White Serb survivors? :) This probably explains why many Upper Silesians look as dark as coal from their mines.

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See:

"SILESIAN CROATIANS - (Translated on google from Polish)
Silesian Croatians (Latin Chrouati) - a Slavonic tribe from the 10th century, mentioned in the document of the Prague bishopric from 1086, supposedly inhabiting the area of the Kłodzko Valley). (...)"

They were mentioned as living next to Psouane (Pszowianie - in the region of Pszów):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psz%C3%B3w

"(...) Psouane, Crouati et altera Chrouati, Zlasane, Trebouane, Pobedane, Dedosizi [...] "(“Pszowianie, Chorwaci [Czech] and alternatively [Sudetów] Chorwaci [śląscy], Ślężanie, Trzebowianie, Bobrzanie, Dziedoszyce”). The word "altera" can alternatively be translated as a "second tribe" called the Croatian, which slightly changes its interpretation. The split of the tribe into two parts had to be conditioned by the natural geographical barrier of the Sudetes. The location of Silesian Croats on the Kłodzko Land is quite commonly accepted, but historiography has not gained unequivocal and universal acceptance.
Bohemian Croats - one of the most important Czech tribes, situated between Pszów and Ślężany, as documented by the Prague Document of 1086, describing the borders of the Diocese of Prague from 973: ... Psouane, Crouati et altera Chrouati, Zlasane [...]. It consisted of two separate fragments (nowadays in the Czech sciences: Eastern Croatian / Charváti and Western Croatian / Charvátci), separated by the Sudeten range (Niederle, Labuda, Widajevich - the last one specifying that the Croatian soil could only be Kłodzko land). Czech Croats are located south of the Giant Mountains to the west of the Jizera River. The second faction, commonly referred to as the Silesian Croats, is quite commonly located in Kłodzko. Czech Croats most often appear in historical sources from all the historical tribes of non-Balkan Croats. The following certificates may apply to Czech Croats:
[1] In the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle of Alfred the Great (849-899), the "Horiti" tribe appears east of the Dalemini tribe.
[2] In the Croatian territory, the Duchess of Drahomir escaped after the murder of her son Wenceslas I, the Czech prince in 929 (or 936), which records the Second Life of St. Wenceslas.
[3] The Czech Croats sometimes see in the mysterious accounts of the Byzantine emperor Constantine Porfirogenety (905-959) about White or Great Croatia, located in the north of Bavaria, in the vicinity of the Czech Republic, Germany and pagan Sorbs.
[4] Czech Croatians cite the Prague Document of 1086, reflecting the state of affairs of the appointment of the Prague bishopric in 973.
Only the last validation probably indicates Croatian Croats. There is no certainty as to whether other reports refer to Czech Croats.

[CommonSense]

I have Polish Upper Silesian kits (with GEDCOM, so there is no mistake: they are native to Silesia) who plot VERY southern for Poles:

https://i.imgur.com/ZvMEbeu.png

^^^ White Croat / White Serb survivors? :) This probably explains why many Upper Silesians look as dark as coal from their mines.

Can you make a thread with example photos so that we could see their phenotypes?

[Peterski]

Can you make a thread with example photos so that we could see their phenotypes?

http://topguitar.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Oberschlesien-Empik-Silesia-1.jpg

https://www.biletomat.pl/media/tmp/galleries/galleries_file/219/6468/01b9f548376648f387cd7d104b7fc4ef.JPG.640.0x426.0_q 85_crop-smart_detail.jpg

http://wf4.xcdn.pl/files/12/01/10/150897_mgn05s04_basinska_34.jpg

http://fototeka.fn.org.pl/public/cache/1-P-214-1-300x341.jpg

[Lucas]

My wife Balkan-like ancestry is from her father probably who has roots in SE Poland and Lvov (also Polish). Her mother is from SE Pommeranian / Kuyavian region with some Greater Poland (Wielkopolska) roots too. So her father ancestry must be very southerm autosomally.
https://i.postimg.cc/jSRK1zQz/Bez-nazwy-1.png

She will be tested soon.

[ph2ter]

I have Polish Upper Silesian kits (with GEDCOM, so there is no mistake: they are native to Silesia) who plot VERY southern for Poles:

^^^ White Croat / White Serb survivors? :) This probably explains why many Upper Silesians look as dark as coal from their mines.


Maybe these Silesians are admixed with Wallachians?

[TheMaestro]

Where am I, as the best fake Serbian?!

[Peterski]

Maybe these Silesians are admixed with Wallachians?

Yes, it is possible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cieszyn_Vlachs

[Lucas]

My wife Balkan-like ancestry is from her father probably who has roots in SE Poland and Lvov (also Polish). Her mother is from SE Pommeranian / Kuyavian region with some Greater Poland (Wielkopolska) roots too. So her father ancestry must be very southerm autosomally.
https://i.postimg.cc/jSRK1zQz/Bez-nazwy-1.png

She will be tested soon.

Ok classify my wife's father. If he looks Balkanite? For me there are Dinaric vibes:)

https://i.postimg.cc/WbNqGJFH/Bez-nazwy-5.jpg

[ph2ter]

My wife Balkan-like ancestry is from her father probably who has roots in SE Poland and Lvov (also Polish). Her mother is from SE Pommeranian / Kuyavian region with some Greater Poland (Wielkopolska) roots too. So her father ancestry must be very southerm autosomally.
https://i.postimg.cc/jSRK1zQz/Bez-nazwy-1.png

She will be tested soon.

She actually plots close to Ukrainians:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ncin357xx732y9l/K15LukaszWife.png?dl=0

[Ford]

Can you add this one as Ford_MH?

North_Sea 19.44
Atlantic 14.07
Baltic 21.63
Eastern_Euro 12.61
West_Med 13.52
West_Asian 5.67
East_Med 12.18
Red_Sea 0.13
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.76
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Peterski]

Here is K15 of one of those two southern-shifted Silesians:

Population
North_Sea 20.87 Pct
Atlantic 26.24 Pct
Baltic 17.20 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.72 Pct
West_Med 7.95 Pct
West_Asian 9.68 Pct
East_Med 3.32 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 1.52 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.10 Pct
Oceanian 0.07 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.32 Pct

Abscisse (x-axis): 437 pixel, Ordonnée (y-axis): 181 pixel

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm

Please add as Silesian1.

[ph2ter]

Ok classify my wife's father. If he looks Balkanite? For me there are Dinaric vibes:)

https://i.postimg.cc/WbNqGJFH/Bez-nazwy-5.jpg

But he also has some Polish facial features.

[Lucas]

She actually plots close to Ukrainians:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ncin357xx732y9l/K15LukaszWife.png?dl=0

Still Balkan pull is strong. I guess father would be really in Balkan cluster, becasue her mother is from NW Poland (in pre-war borders) and it pulls her to Polish cluster.

[Peterski]

Ph2ter why am I (TomLDNA) put outside of the Polish cluster in your PCA graph?

I plot like typical Greater Poles (which is also the oldest / original region of Poland):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmCHW--lJ3Q

[Lucas]

But he also has some Polish facial features.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić commented "He pass as Croat easy, familiar face"

[Peterski]

Ph2ter's PCA has some issues with differentiating along the North/South axis.

Tolan's PCA seems to be better at differentiating between northern/southern.

[ph2ter]

Can you add this one as Ford_MH?

North_Sea 19.44
Atlantic 14.07
Baltic 21.63
Eastern_Euro 12.61
West_Med 13.52
West_Asian 5.67
East_Med 12.18
Red_Sea 0.13
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.76
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nn51x8xst97ldnm/K15Ford.png?dl=0

[Lucas]

Tolan PCA was adjusted by him. It isn't the same classic PCA as you can do in PAST. Some time ago I asked him but don't have messages now at hand.
So it is unique tool, like his similitude map.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić commented "He pass as Croat easy, familiar face"

Yes, he does look familiar :D

[ph2ter]

Ph2ter why am I (TomLDNA) put outside of the Polish cluster in your PCA graph?

I plot like typical Greater Poles (which is also the oldest / original region of Poland):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmCHW--lJ3Q
Because many Poles plot among Russians and they pull Polish 50% ellipse towards east.

[Ford]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nn51x8xst97ldnm/K15Ford.png?dl=0

Thank you. Just one question; which regional clusters am I located in? It's a little difficult to read.

[ph2ter]

Ph2ter's PCA has some issues with differentiating along the North/South axis.

Tolan's PCA seems to be better at differentiating between northern/southern.

My plot is upside down. I exchanged PC1 and PC2 axis to avoid mirrored map.

[ph2ter]

Thank you. Just one question; which regional clusters am I located in? It's a little difficult to read.

You shold tell me your place of origin. But generally speaking you look like West Serb.

[Peterski]

Because many Poles plot among Russians and they pull Polish 50% ellipse towards east.

Your sample is not representative.

Also as far as I can see your Ukrainian samples are all from Western Ukraine, which was a Polish colony for 600 years.

[Ford]

You shold tell me your place of origin. But generally speaking you look like West Serb.

I'm from around Tuzla.

[Peterski]

Here you have some Eastern Ukrainians, without Polish admixture from the last 600 years:

UkrainianEast1:

Population
North_Sea 17.65 Pct
Atlantic 10.78 Pct
Baltic 32.99 Pct
Eastern_Euro 25.98 Pct
West_Med 7.66 Pct
West_Asian 1.69 Pct
East_Med 0.05 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.16 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.61 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.49 Pct

UkrainianEast2:

Population
North_Sea 17.72 Pct
Atlantic 16.60 Pct
Baltic 29.88 Pct
Eastern_Euro 19.72 Pct
West_Med 8.48 Pct
West_Asian 1.13 Pct
East_Med 2.17 Pct
Red_Sea 0.39 Pct
South_Asian 2.87 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.94 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.09 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

UkrainianEast3:

Population
North_Sea 17.80 Pct
Atlantic 15.68 Pct
Baltic 30.89 Pct
Eastern_Euro 20.57 Pct
West_Med 4.42 Pct
West_Asian 4.66 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.17 Pct
South_Asian 3.65 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.60 Pct
Amerindian 0.26 Pct
Oceanian 0.29 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

UkrainianEast4:

Population
North_Sea 19.16 Pct
Atlantic 10.46 Pct
Baltic 34.12 Pct
Eastern_Euro 22.96 Pct
West_Med 6.18 Pct
West_Asian 3.24 Pct
East_Med 2.17 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.49 Pct
Oceanian 0.52 Pct
Northeast_African 0.71 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[ph2ter]

Your sample is not representative.

Also as far as I can see your Ukrainian samples are all from Western Ukraine, which was a Polish colony for 600 years.

Of course they are not. My samples are only the users from Anthrogenica.

[Peterski]

Oh, I thought that I21 were some academic samples...

I guess they are from that banned user Idwaajeden?

[ph2ter]

Here you have some Eastern Ukrainians, without Polish admixture from the last 600 years:

UkrainianEast1:

Population
North_Sea 17.65 Pct
Atlantic 10.78 Pct
Baltic 32.99 Pct
Eastern_Euro 25.98 Pct
West_Med 7.66 Pct
West_Asian 1.69 Pct
East_Med 0.05 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.16 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.61 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.49 Pct

UkrainianEast2:

Population
North_Sea 17.72 Pct
Atlantic 16.60 Pct
Baltic 29.88 Pct
Eastern_Euro 19.72 Pct
West_Med 8.48 Pct
West_Asian 1.13 Pct
East_Med 2.17 Pct
Red_Sea 0.39 Pct
South_Asian 2.87 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.94 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.09 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

UkrainianEast3:

Population
North_Sea 17.80 Pct
Atlantic 15.68 Pct
Baltic 30.89 Pct
Eastern_Euro 20.57 Pct
West_Med 4.42 Pct
West_Asian 4.66 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.17 Pct
South_Asian 3.65 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.60 Pct
Amerindian 0.26 Pct
Oceanian 0.29 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

UkrainianEast4:

Population
North_Sea 19.16 Pct
Atlantic 10.46 Pct
Baltic 34.12 Pct
Eastern_Euro 22.96 Pct
West_Med 6.18 Pct
West_Asian 3.24 Pct
East_Med 2.17 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.49 Pct
Oceanian 0.52 Pct
Northeast_African 0.71 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fh62vcgasguanix/K15Ukraine.png?dl=0

Some Ukrainians which gave me Idwayeden/modernancientdna look very Balkanic.

[ph2ter]

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić commented "He pass as Croat easy, familiar face"

He can pass as a Croat but according to his appearance I would rather group him with the Poles.

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I've tried to make 3D PCA for former Yugoslav samples. This is the result:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/plvos447bk1f2m0/animation3.gif?raw=1

[Ayetooey]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/285507sfpsf26xw/MojeImeK15Yugo.png?dl=0

Hey is there any chance I could get my fathers results added to this PCA. Thanks.

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.91
2 North_Sea 17.07
3 Atlantic 14.69
4 West_Med 13.77
5 Eastern_Euro 13.58
6 East_Med 11.89
7 West_Asian 7.87
8 Amerindian 0.63
9 Red_Sea 0.23
10 South_Asian 0.2
11 Sub-Saharan 0.18

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Hey is there any chance I could get my fathers results added to this PCA. Thanks.

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.91
2 North_Sea 17.07
3 Atlantic 14.69
4 West_Med 13.77
5 Eastern_Euro 13.58
6 East_Med 11.89
7 West_Asian 7.87
8 Amerindian 0.63
9 Red_Sea 0.23
10 South_Asian 0.2
11 Sub-Saharan 0.18
I can't find this exact plot. But here is something similar: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3m34ntb7kl2vs1/ayetooeyfatherK15.png?dl=0