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Peterski
03-05-2019, 10:12 AM
"Recovering signals of ghost archaic introgression in African populations":

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2019/02/28/285734.full.pdf

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/285734v2

Africans may derive 2% up to 19% of their DNA from an archaic population that diverged prior to the split of Neanderthals and modern humans.

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I suppose that this "ghost species" could be like the Iwo Eleru specimen:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-14947363

"Reanalysis of the 13,000-year-old skull from a cave in West Africa reveals a skull more primitive-looking than its age suggests."

Dorian
03-05-2019, 10:33 AM
19?that's crazy...as a noob I have to ask ,could it be that some of it is in fact shared with homosapiens?I mean like some neanderthalists who claim Europeans have higher neanderthal?

One melonhead-style idea of mine is that when a kind of dark protomediterranids(maybe with epicanthic folds?) returned to Africa as E'(yback-migration theory)+(Coon's theory of negroids) they found a pygmy/khoisan(the 2nd have eurasian and maybe neanderthal admixture I think?)-like population and this mixture itself was proto-sapiens with that archaic element ,so what about original pure protosapiens?

There's also the "boskopids" who are called caucasoid in some texts.

Dorian
03-05-2019, 10:36 AM
OUT OF TOPIC/2ND ARTICLE

Prof Katerina Harvati from the University of Tuebingen in Germany used new digitising techniques to capture the surface of the skull in detail.

One of the many modern Greeks that contribute to science(for those downplaying us in other threads).

Peterski
03-05-2019, 10:43 AM
19% is the high estimate (average is closer to 1/10).

Leto
03-05-2019, 10:45 AM
Even 10% can affect greatly. That admixture might explain the difference between blacks and non-blacks. So it's more than just tens of thousands of years of isolation as they previously said.

Peterski
03-05-2019, 11:02 AM
Well Leto... white supremacists and racists will always find some excuses.

Before they claimed that having archaic admixture is good, because "whites are very Neanderthal and blacks are 100% human".

Now they will probably start claiming "whites are purer humans than you".

Leto
03-05-2019, 11:08 AM
Well Leto... white supremacists and racists will always find some excuses.

Before they claimed that having archaic admixture is good, because "whites are very Neanderthal and blacks are 100% human".

Now they will probably start claiming "whites are purer humans than you".
You can deny it as much as you want, the reality shows itself regardless. Continue thinking the Yoruba and Mende are just the same as you are, even though there are obvious differences. And even if that difference didn't matter, that still wouldn't justify globalism in my eyes.

Veles
03-05-2019, 11:19 AM
19% is almost an animal. I don't believe that can be.

Peterski
03-05-2019, 11:22 AM
^^^ Archaic humans were not animals:

https://mwebantu.news/bring-back-broken-hill-man/

https://mwebantu.news/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/22050305_1861491617497593_4727513008958220206_n.jp g

^^^ Broken Hill Man (archaic human):

https://phys.org/news/2013-03-early-human-fossil-africa-debut.html

https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/csz/news/800/2013/1-firstearlyhu.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_rhodesiensis

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/MEH_Homo_rhodesiensis_portrait.jpg/455px-MEH_Homo_rhodesiensis_portrait.jpg

IncelSlayer
03-05-2019, 11:25 AM
^^^ Archaic humans were not animals.

They didn't have the cognitive functions of modern humans either, basically blacks are up to 20% subhuman

J. Ketch
03-05-2019, 11:25 AM
19% is almost an animal. I don't believe that can be.
Are you sure?

AI isn't so sure.

https://nextshark-vxdsockgvw3ki.stackpathdns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/gorillafeat1-e1435793067408.jpg

Peterski
03-05-2019, 11:28 AM
They didn't have the cognitive functions of modern humans either

How do you even know this ???

Some of them could be even smarter than modern humans, we will never know.

IncelSlayer
03-05-2019, 11:31 AM
How do you even know this ???

Some of them could be even smarter than modern humans, we will never know.

Had they been smarter they would have replaced modern humans

Peterski
03-05-2019, 11:32 AM
Had they been smarter they would have replaced modern humans

So you don't have to worry about possible replacement of whites in the West by African immigrants, right?

As long as they are not smarter than whites, they will not replace them.

Leto
03-05-2019, 11:35 AM
So you don't have to worry about possible replacement of whites in the West by African immigrants, right?

As long as they are not smarter than whites, they will not replace them.
Mass migration and replacement of whites are not orchestrated by the blacks.

IncelSlayer
03-05-2019, 11:36 AM
So you don't have to worry about possible replacement of whites in the West by African immigrants, right?

As long as they are not smarter than whites, they will not replace them.

Theres no such thing as smart negroid, only by chance if he's highly caucasoid mixed.Even tho they won't win any Noble prizes they will still shit countless children and/or kill whites.By 2100 hom-erectus negroids will make 1/3 of the population and they will still be as savage and that's the problem, you can't take the animal out of them, they missed the evolution train.

Peterski
03-05-2019, 11:37 AM
I begin to doubt whether they were actually different species than us.

If they were so different, why were they reproductively compatible?

Peterski
03-05-2019, 11:45 AM
This guy has better English skills and sounds smarter than many TA users (and supposedly he is from a tribe with average IQ of 60, per Lynn):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5_OGa_Ktek

IncelSlayer
03-05-2019, 11:47 AM
I suspect this archaic DNA was polish and this would perfectly explain Peterski's behavior on TA

Leto
03-05-2019, 11:50 AM
I suspect this archaic DNA was polish and this would perfectly explain Peterski's behavior on TA
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Emanuel_Olisadebe.jpg

HE IS JUST AS POLISH AS PETERSKI IF NOT MORE!

Leto
03-05-2019, 11:52 AM
Magnolia cannot learn proper English and that Khoisan Bushman can - how does it prove that Sudeten Germans have higher IQ than Bushmen?
English is probably official in his country while it is not in Czechia. Also, he is just one individual. I speak good English while most Russians can't speak it at all.

Dorian
03-05-2019, 12:01 PM
HE IS JUST AS POLISH AS PETERSKI IF NOT MORE!

"MANOLAKI EHHH VGALTIN EKSO OHHH NA TI DOUNE EHHH KE NA PUNE POPO"
("MANOLIS BRING "IT" OUT, LET THEM SEE IT AND SAY WOW")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u0S86K0jGw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYhfmhmiYo

sailormoon
03-08-2019, 10:20 PM
https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/ghostafrica.jpg

Figure 1 from the study shows that UA (unknown archaic hominin) is ancestral to both Neanderthals and Denisovans, which are thought to be descended from Homo heidelbergensis. An earlier study by Hammer et al. (2011) found that African populations have a small proportion of genetic material (≈2%) introgressed from an archaic population that split from the ancestors of anatomically modern humans ≈700 kya. We now know that Europeans have Neanderthal ancestry (2-3%) and it's quite plausible, if Africans are partly descended from Homo heidelbergensis.

https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/csz/news/800/2012/largestgroup.gif



A long-debated question concerns the fate of archaic forms of the genus Homo: did they go extinct without interbreeding with anatomically modern humans, or are their genes present in contemporary populations? This question is typically focused on the genetic contribution of archaic forms outside of Africa. Here we use DNA sequence data gathered from 61 noncoding autosomal regions in a sample of three sub-Saharan African populations (Mandenka, Biaka, and San) to test models of African archaic admixture. We use two complementary approximate-likelihood approaches and a model of human evolution that involves recent population structure, with and without gene flow from an archaic population. Extensive simulation results reject the null model of no admixture and allow us to infer that contemporary African populations contain a small proportion of genetic material (≈2%) that introgressed ≈35 kya from an archaic population that split from the ancestors of anatomically modern humans ≈700 kya. Three candidate regions showing deep haplotype divergence, unusual patterns of linkage disequilibrium, and small basal clade size are identified and the distributions of introgressive haplotypes surveyed in a sample of populations from across sub-Saharan Africa. One candidate locus with an unusual segment of DNA that extends for >31 kb on chromosome 4 seems to have introgressed into modern Africans from a now-extinct taxon that may have lived in central Africa. Taken together our results suggest that polymorphisms present in extant populations introgressed via relatively recent interbreeding with hominin forms that diverged from the ancestors of modern humans in the Lower-Middle Pleistocene.
https://www.pnas.org/content/108/37/15123