POLL: opinion on Josip Broz Tito

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito

[Pribislav]

Very negative anti-Serbian bloody distator.

[Papastratosels26]

A Communist Dictaror. He aided the rebels in Greek Civil War.

[Ülev]

article I read yesterday in Serbian media: http://www.24online.info/ruski-istorisar-izneo-soknatne-tvrdnje-potkovane-argumentima-ko-je-stvarno-bio-tito-da-li-je-bio-ruski-agent/

(before others will write)

my feelings - rather neutral, he caused Istria Croatian, Slovenians I read didn't like this fact

[Pribislav]

Riblja Čorba said fully true about masonic scum in this song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwv7-kYxIQ

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

article I read yesterday in Serbian media: http://www.24online.info/ruski-istorisar-izneo-soknatne-tvrdnje-potkovane-argumentima-ko-je-stvarno-bio-tito-da-li-je-bio-ruski-agent/

(before others will write)

my feelings - rather neutral, he caused Istria Croatian, Slovenians I read didn't like this fact

xD

Without commies Slovene coast wouldn't exist either tho. Tito almost took Triest, actually Yugoslav army already entered the city but west just couldn't allow that.

[Ülev]

Celovec, Gradec..... :rolleyes:

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

And now Pribivlach says NW Croats and Slovenes make only good stableboys xD

[Moje ime]

In communist times in Yugoslavia, working class was protected. For example, in a (government) company you could be a simple cleaning staff and nobody had right to treat you bad otherwise you can report him and ask for protection from party. Today in Serbia you can have college degree and work in private company and owner of it can pay to you minimal salary or force you to be office worker and cleaning staff in the same time or work extra hours without extra money for that or you can lose the job whenever he decides that.

[Ford]

Don't agree with his policies or politics at all, although he was a very competent leader.

[Aspar]

He killed quite a few Macedonian patriots and nationalists but also Serb, Croatian and other ones as well.
He knew that if he not take a rough stance against the right wing, that will lead to break up of Yugoslavia, which happened after his death.
Very smart and wise leader he was.
Macedonians did like him and still do, and my family as well!
Most main roads in the cities of my country still bear his name and rightfully so, we own him much to him for having a country!
May he rest in peace!

[Pribislav]

Tito was a Polish Jew who played Croatian Zagorec.
His accent was Polish.
There was real Zagorec Tito who died in Spaniard civili war. Jew Tito was sented by Communist International and he took identity of Zagorec Tito. Zagorec Tito was without two fingers and Polish Jew Tito had all fingers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsMNC94i6Ts

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Tito was a Polish Jew who played Croatian Zagorec.

Polish Borreby ? xD

It's hard for you to accept Croat-Slovene illiterate peasant kept you by the balls for 30 years and you had to be fucking quiet and good boys while Tito bossed around. :D

I salute him for that.

[Moje ime]

His worst political act was certainly creating new nations as Muslims and giving autonomy to Kosovo and Vojvodina, so Republic Serbia was basically only republic of 6 that was future divided with those two autonomy regions, while eg. Serbian minority in Croatia didn't have any autonomy. His good political act is certainly limiting influence of SSSR in Yugoslavia compared with rest of communist countries.

[Bosniensis]

Tito was a Communist, and he wanted to spread that religion to everyone else.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

His worst political act was certainly creating new nations as Muslims and giving autonomy to Kosovo and Vojvodina, so Republic Serbia was basically only republic of 6 that was future divided with those two autonomy regions, while eg. Serbian minority in Croatia didn't have any autonomy. His good political act is certainly limiting influence of SSSR in Yugoslavia compared with rest of communist countries.

Tito was quite anti-Serb, that's true.

[Pribislav]

Polish Borreby ? xD

It's hard for you to accept Croat-Slovene illiterate peasant kept you by the balls for 30 years and you had to be fucking quiet and good boys while Tito bossed around. :D

I salute him for that.

Illiterate peasant from Kumrovec can not play piano, speak various languages, have aristocratic mannerrs, play Waltz, play fencing etc.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He also had megalomanic plans to create Communist Balkan federation togheder with Bulgaria and Albania, but it never happened (Soviets were much against this).

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Illiterate peasant from Kumrovec can not play piano, speak various languages, have aristocratic mannerrs, play Waltz, play fencing etc.

He wrote badly tho.

Josip spent a significant proportion of his pre-school years living with his maternal grandparents at Podsreda, where he became a favourite of his grandfather Martin Javeršek, and by the time he returned to Kumrovec to commence school he spoke Slovene better than Croatian, and had learned to play the piano. Despite his mixed parentage, Broz often referred to himself as a Croat.

In July 1900, at the age of eight, Broz entered primary school at Kumrovec, but only completed four years of school, failing the 2nd grade then graduating in 1905.As a result of his limited schooling, throughout his life he was poor at spelling.


Driven by curiosity, Broz then moved to Plzeň where he was briefly employed at the Škoda Works, then travelled to Munich in Bavaria. He also worked at the Benz car factory in Mannheim, and visited the Ruhr. By October 1912 he had arrived in Vienna where he stayed with his older brother Martin and his family and worked at the Griedl Works before getting a job at Wiener Neustadt where he worked for Austro-Daimler, and was often asked to drive and test the cars. During this time he spent considerable time fencing and dancing, and during his training and early work life he also learned German and passable Czech.

[Moje ime]

His good political act is limiting religions, especially Islam, inside of "4 walls". I like especially that he forbid Muslim women to wear burkas (whatever that was) in public, but in practice you could celebrate religious celebrations in your home. I don't know how it was in rest of communist countries.

[Maks Luburic]

His worst political act was certainly creating new nations as Muslims .

+1

[Vožd]

This terrorist succed just because to terrible and amateric Yugoslav army which was later handed over to the occupier, giving to partisan terrorists all propaganda benefit.
Huge shame in Serbian history.

[Moje ime]

This terrorist succed just because to terrible and amateric Yugoslav army which was later handed over to the occupier, giving to partisan terrorists all propaganda benefit.
Huge shame in Serbian history.

No, he succeed because Russia as part of SSSR and as Serbian old ally was communist country in that time and was winning in that war.

[Ülev]

btw,

I don't know how about you guys but I know a BOSS the one that trolled Americans and Russians without any problems.


https://i.imgur.com/zSgR9CV.gif

https://i.imgur.com/xbJ2gOE.jpg

[Gold-Shekel]

Liberated Yugoslavia pretty much on his own (with logistical support ofc)

Avoided further bloodshed between South Slavs for 50 years

Industrialized a mostly unindustrialized country

Made Yugoslavia a well respected country

But did not plan his succession which led to 6 shit countries being made from a once great country.

[Moje ime]

http://www.vestinet.rs/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/tito-i-nikson-kohiba-600x431.jpg

[Kaspias]

Liberated Yugoslavia pretty much on his own (with logistical support ofc)

Avoided further bloodshed between South Slavs for 50 years

Industrialized a mostly unindustrialized country

Made Yugoslavia a well respected country

But did not plan his succession which led to 6 shit countries being made from a once great country.

++

[MiloshN]

:puke: :puke

[Vožd]

No, he succeed because Russia as part of SSSR and as Serbian old ally was communist country in that time and was winning in that war.

Serbia was least pro-communistic in Yugoslavia, and most pro-monarhistic.
Serbian ally was Romanov fraction, not communists.
Partisans won thanks to idiot chetnicks who take occupator side.

[Moje ime]

Serbia was least pro-communistic in Yugoslavia, and most pro-monarhistic.
Serbian ally was Romanov fraction, not communists.
Partisans won thanks to idiot chetnicks who take occupator side.

Partisans won thanks to promise of social justice, and majority of people were poor and not satisfied with previous royal government.

[Blondie]

Negative because he was commie.

[Kivan]

A bloodthirsty communist dictator and war criminal.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

A bloodthirsty communist dictator and war criminal.

Yes, Tito is responsible for deaths of tens of tousands of people. Or more, it's not really known.

[Vožd]

Partisans won thanks to promise of social justice, and majority of people were poor and not satisfied with previous royal government.

One of propaganda, yes.

[coolfrenchguy]

Don't agree with his policies or politics at all, although he was a very competent leader.

i think than somewhere tito wasn't the worst and his opposition to stalin,against the kommintern it was something,if you look back while he was in place he wasn't a mass murderer,and he keep good relations with the western countries,we can says than the man wasn't evil,like many others,i don't want to go inside the endless balkanite dick contests,but even on political aspects we can debate while endless days, on the human side josep tito were with a kind of ethic,and nowadays is pretty rare

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

i think than somewhere tito wasn't the worst and his opposition to stalin,against the kommintern it was something,if you look back while he was in place he wasn't a mass murderer,and he keep good relations with the western countries,we can says than the man wasn't evil,like many others,i don't want to go inside the endless balkanite dick contests,but even on political aspects we can debate while endless days, on the human side josep tito were with a kind of ethic,and nowadays is pretty rare

No, he was completely amoral and mass murdered, but capable nevertheless.

[Blondie]

Yes, Tito is responsible for deaths of tens of tousands of people. Or more, it's not really known.

But as i know serbs still like him.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

But as i know serbs still like him.

Nationalists nope because deep down monster Tito was a Croat (officially Yugoslav tho) and he did everything to prevent Serb domination in Yugoslavia like it was in Monarchistic one.
And he was pretty sucessfull at that.

[Pribislav]

But as i know serbs still like him.

Those are brainwashed Serbs. People which had privilegies in Tito's regime and their descendants.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He was merciless towards his former comrades also and didn't have second toughts to get them killed if they separated paths from his ideology, especially pro-Soviet ones.
This man was complete cold-blooded psychopath but charming one so people are deluded.

[Blondie]

Those are brainwashed Serbs. People which had privilegies in Tito's regime and their descendants.

Tito is very positive figure among hungarians in Vojvodina.

[Pribislav]

Tito is very positive figure among hungarians in Vojvodina.

Why?

[Blondie]

Why?

Because later the ultra nacionalist Šešelj was nightmare.

[Pribislav]

Because later the ultra nacionalist Šešelj was nightmare.

Šešelj is clown. He never took power in Serbia.

[Vožd]

Those are brainwashed Serbs. People which had privilegies in Tito's regime and their descendants.

"People's army" took off the property from the people, many poor people literary died of hunger in 50's. de facto legalised partocraty (partisans, communists etc was privileged, they dont even invested in settlements which had "too many chetnics" etc.).
Serbia as mostly pro-monarshistic was hardest hited by culturocide and brainwashing, because they knew that Karađorđević claiming was legal.

[Blondie]

Šešelj is clown. He never took power in Serbia.

Šešelj was the chetnik vojvoda.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Why?

Because Tito gave autonomy to Vojvodina which was taken away after his death, I presume.

[Dušan]

His worst political act was certainly creating new nations as Muslims and giving autonomy to Kosovo and Vojvodina, so Republic Serbia was basically only republic of 6 that was future divided with those two autonomy regions, while eg. Serbian minority in Croatia didn't have any autonomy.

+1

[Teutone]

fucking phone, I voted wrongly.

I dislike every socialist or communist leaders, especially if they opressed religion.

[Bosniensis]

Šešelj is clown. He never took power in Serbia.

He is your superior in RANK, he is Vojvoda you are NOT

Next time I'll report you to him.

[Pribislav]

Šešelj was the chetnik vojvoda.

Vojvoda Momčilo Đujić gave him the title of Vojvoda and later he took it away from him because he was dissapointed in Šešelj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momčilo_Đujić

Šešelj is currently the best stand-up comedian in Europe.

In Hague his holding was for respect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXNECxVF9X0

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

He is your superior in RANK, he is Vojvoda you are NOT

Next time I'll report you to him.

ahaha true xD

[Moje ime]

Šešelj is clown. He never took power in Serbia.

He was always close with every regime in power, was very close with Milosevic back in 1990s and had own group of volunteers in war.

[Vožd]

Šešelj was the chetnik vojvoda.

If i say, im Roman emperor, and dress Roman emperor clothes, is this mean that im became Roman emperor? :D
Pribislav is right, he is literary clown.
Just a righnt-wing populist, spreading hatred among people because itself benefits.
Was many times in jail, deserved.

[Bosniensis]

If i say, im Roman emperor, and dress Roman emperor clothes, is this mean that im became Roman emperor? :D
Pribislav is right, he is literary clown.
Just a righnt-wing populist, spreading hatred among people because itself benefits.
Was many times in jail, deserved.

http://www.satiranje.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/seselj-govor.jpg

[Blondie]

Vojvoda Momčilo Đujić gave him the title of Vojvoda and later he took it away from him because he was dissapointed in Šešelj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momčilo_Đujić

Šešelj is currently the best stand-up comedian in Europe.

In Hague his holding was for respect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXNECxVF9X0

Croats are not catholic serbs.... :rotfl:

[Ford]

Šešelj is currently the best stand-up comedian in Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXNECxVF9X0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNiNh0JPass

[Bosniensis]

Šešelj Invincible


https://youtu.be/Pxao5CTLGdA

[Maks Luburic]

Croats are not catholic serbs.... :rotfl:

That´s part of his bullshit. He declared every non-Kaykavian (mostly spoken in Natos-area) speaker of Serbian descent.


(Old dialect map):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Serbo_croatian_dialects_historical_distribution.pn g

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I think he considers Kajkavians Slovenians bro xD

[Maks Luburic]

I think he considers Kajkavians Slovenians bro xD

What again shows that he isn´t right in his head, if he is serious with that. He must be related to our beloved friend Pribislav :D

[Moje ime]

Interview with Tito's personal cook.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mEOWZFoGzk

[Gold-Shekel]

It's funny to see Yugoslavs act like "Central Europeans", ashamed of their own History as if it was the Soviets who were occupying the area. Face it, it's the best that region could have wished at the time, it was either that or be a USSR Satelite like Albania.

[ixulescu]

It's funny to see Yugoslavs act like "Central Europeans", ashamed of their own History as if it was the Soviets who were occupying the area. Face it, it's the best that region could have wished at the time, it was either that or be a USSR Satelite like Albania.

Albania had very poor relations with the USSR, poorer than Yugoslavia.

[Vožd]

It's funny to see Yugoslavs act like "Central Europeans", ashamed of their own History as if it was the Soviets who were occupying the area. Face it, it's the best that region could have wished at the time, it was either that or be a USSR Satelite like Albania.

Most of central European countries was members of Warsaw pact, even worse than Yugoslavia.

[Gold-Shekel]

Albania had very poor relations with the USSR, poorer than Yugoslavia.

It was a Satelite state long enough to become a soviet-like shithole, even worse.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

It's funny to see Yugoslavs act like "Central Europeans", ashamed of their own History as if it was the Soviets who were occupying the area. Face it, it's the best that region could have wished at the time, it was either that or be a USSR Satelite like Albania.

Hebrang tried to secede Croatia from Yugoslavia and to become Soviet satelite and join Warsaw Pact, that's why Tito had him killed.

[Pribislav]

That´s part of his bullshit. He declared every non-Kaykavian (mostly spoken in Natos-area) speaker of Serbian descent.


(Old dialect map):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Serbo_croatian_dialects_historical_distribution.pn g

He recognize chakavian as real Croatian, and yes kaykavian as Slovenian. He claim only shtokavian Croatians as former Serbs.

[Pribislav]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNiNh0JPass


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEMBP_BxONg

[TheMaestro]

btw,

Whats with it, Tito made Yugoslavia one of strongest countries in Europe.
3 largest army in Europe
Passport with which you could travel around the world with high ranking - freedom of movement
Good salaries
Tried to destroy hatred between yugo's
Destroyed nationalists from all countries
Made Yugos to like each other than hating each others like nowaydays like kid retards
Yugoslavia wasnt that much affected by other countries, strong suverenity
No drugs, Lowest crime in history

[Pribislav]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2213/1925469402_86b5fbe448_o.jpg

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Your Voivode comes from Kurwat Catholic sperm Xd

https://twitter.com/KBeljak/status/1017652217938104320

"I see war criminals commenting on Tweets on the sites. Only this: Croats have given birth to many Shit people through history, and one of the biggest Croatian shits is - Vojica Šešelj ��"

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0489fb2f025d80cb993ac1e2712682fa/tenor.gif

[Pribislav]

Your Voivode comes from Kurwat Catholic sperm Xd

https://twitter.com/KBeljak/status/1017652217938104320

"I see war criminals commenting on Tweets on the sites. Only this: Croats have given birth to many Shit people through history, and one of the biggest Croatian shits is - Vojica Šešelj ��"

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0489fb2f025d80cb993ac1e2712682fa/tenor.gif

Vojvoda Šešelj iz from Popovo field center of early Serbian medieval state, nothing Croatian about him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popovo_field

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Vojvoda Šešelj iz from Popovo field center of early Serbian medieval state, nothing Croatian about him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popovo_field

Center of Serbian state buhahaha xD where, in your fairytales ?

his ancestors were Catholics and Croats before conversion and everyone knows that. That's why he is such a hysterical bitch playing Great Serb, because he can't live with fact he comes from Ustaša sperm LMAO.

https://glassrbijeinfo.wordpress.com/razno/dosije-seselj-hrvat-sa-kokardom-i-dvorska-luda-svakog-rezima-video/

[Dna8]

Yugoslavia was worth a try

[Pribislav]

Center of Serbian state buhahaha xD where, in your fairytales ?

his ancestors were Catholics and Croats before conversion and everyone knows that. That's why he is such a hysterical bitch playing Great Serb, because he can't live with fact he comes from Ustaša sperm LMAO.

https://glassrbijeinfo.wordpress.com/razno/dosije-seselj-hrvat-sa-kokardom-i-dvorska-luda-svakog-rezima-video/

Šešelj is I2-CTS10228, his further origin is from Rovčani clan.
He has a matches among Rovčani https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovčani

https://www.alo.rs/vesti/politika/zukorlic-testirao-krv-zbog-seselja/122200/vest

[Pribislav]

Vojislav Šešelj is on the list of notable Rovčani https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovčani#Notable_people

[Ford]

Yugoslavia was worth a try

It was a romanticized idea destined to fail.

[Dna8]

It was a romanticized idea destined to fail.

Yugoslavia had better potential than "Spain" or "Italy" or "France" or "Germany", IMO.

[Ford]

Yugoslavia had better potential than "Spain" or "Italy" or "France" or "Germany", IMO.

It would have been a better contender without the socialism. Anyways, its potential was definitely high, but it was still a romantic idea held back by the fact that three different civilizations were collected in one state. Also, I doubt any Balkan nation will ever reach the level of discipline and competence as Germany.

[Dna8]

It would have been a better contender without the socialism. Anyways, its potential was definitely high, but it was still a romantic idea held back by the fact that three different civilizations were collected in one state. Also, I doubt any Balkan nation will ever reach the level of discipline and competence as Germany.

Fair enough

In another dimension where geopolitics doesn't exist, Yugoslavia abides (and we have one two world cups by now)

[CommonSense]

He was a master diplomat and his politics of neutrality were something that the present day Serbian and Balkan leaders can only dream of achieving. It's cringeworthy to see Vučić trying to maintain equally good relations with both EU/NATO and Putin's Russia. Tito is the only one who could have pulled off things like convincing the USA, UK and France to send you yearly aid for several years so that you can go on building a socialist state. However, that's pretty much the only positive side to him.
The internal policies he and his party made were the reason things went south in the 90s and continue to be shit to this day. They preached brotherhood and unity, yet not only did Tito and co fail to purge the remnants of nationalistic thought (too busy removing the enemies of socialism like his pal Stalin, I suppose), but the new state constitutions ultimately served to divide everyone once more. The only thing that mattered to them was their own wealth and well-being, which was of course only achieved and secured by subjugating every aspect of society to the KPJ and Tito's cult of personality. In a typical communist manner they made everyone live in one big lie and as long as the standards were decent, people went along with it.

[Crn Volk]

Hebrang tried to secede Croatia from Yugoslavia and to become Soviet satelite and join Warsaw Pact, that's why Tito had him killed.

We had similar politicians in Macedonia who had Soviet backing to secede from Yugoslavia and form a united Macedonian state in the Warsaw Pact. VMRO received backing for this and actively operated against Tito. Needless to say those caught within Yugoslavia were imprisoned or executed. Examples - Panko Brashnarov, Pavel Shatev. Other Macedonians who sought complete independence from Yugoslavia eg. Metodija Andonov-Chento, Dragan Bogdanovski, also received a similar fate.

[Dna8]

Tito sent assassins to NZ to take care of dissidents.

[Crn Volk]

Tito sent assassins to NZ to take care of dissidents.

And Australia, and throughout Europe.

[Dna8]

And Australia, and throughout Europe.

The targets in NZ were mostly Dalmatians who had settled in the far North of the North Island.

[Mraz]

Very positive, he made of Yugoslavia some relevant country, industrialized it, educated people.
All ex-Yu leaders are little bitches compared to TITO.

[Ice]

Tito > stalin