My new gedmatch results (V3 converted)

[xripkan]

I converted my 23andme V5 gedmatch results to V3. The new results were quite different:
Eurogenes K15
Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.37
2 West_Med 15.94
3 Atlantic 15.19
4 West_Asian 13.58
5 North_Sea 10.35
6 Baltic 9.99
7 Eastern_Euro 5.57
8 Red_Sea 3.87
9 Oceanian 0.52
10 Siberian 0.38
11 Southeast_Asian 0.19
12 South_Asian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 3.02
2 Central_Greek 4.9
3 Italian_Abruzzo 5.21
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.45
5 East_Sicilian 6.23
6 Ashkenazi 6.97
7 West_Sicilian 7.13
8 South_Italian 8.13
9 Tuscan 8.68
10 Bulgarian 10.1
11 Romanian 12.48
12 Italian_Jewish 12.66
13 Sephardic_Jewish 13.23
14 Algerian_Jewish 14
15 North_Italian 14.3
16 Serbian 15.94
17 Tunisian_Jewish 17.38
18 Libyan_Jewish 19.13
19 Cyprian 19.14
20 Turkish 20.09

Eurogenes K13
Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.77
2 West_Med 20.79
3 North_Atlantic 17.67
4 Baltic 15.8
5 West_Asian 13.11
6 Red_Sea 3.69
7 Siberian 0.72
8 Oceanian 0.71
9 South_Asian 0.45
10 East_Asian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 2.49
2 Central_Greek 5.89
3 East_Sicilian 7.34
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.78
5 West_Sicilian 8.69
6 Ashkenazi 9.59
7 South_Italian 10.27
8 Bulgarian 10.47
9 Tuscan 10.93
10 Romanian 12.85
11 North_Italian 15.72
12 Algerian_Jewish 15.78
13 Italian_Jewish 15.91
14 Sephardic_Jewish 16.07
15 Serbian 17.13
16 Tunisian_Jewish 19.65
17 Libyan_Jewish 20.15
18 Cyprian 21.16
19 Turkish 22.64
20 Moldavian 22.76

[Leto]

2.5-3.0 is a pretty close distance. What about Dodecad K12b?

[Impaler]

Do you find V3 more accurate than V5?

[xripkan]

Do you find V3 more accurate than V5?

I can't tell for sure. What I noticed is that V3 gives me closer distances which I think makes sense for someone with non-mixed ancestry. I noticed that also on K36 similarity map(80% maximum correlation for V5 and 85% for V3).

[xripkan]

2.5-3.0 is a pretty close distance. What about Dodecad K12b?

Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.03
2 Atlantic_Med 27.56
3 North_European 21.94
4 Southwest_Asian 10.17
5 Gedrosia 5.4
6 South_Asian 1.56
7 Northwest_African 1.09
8 Siberian 0.58
9 East_Asian 0.39
10 Sub_Saharan 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.38
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 6.69
3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.52
4 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.6
5 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.11
6 Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.3
7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11.39
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 11.83
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 12.01
10 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.06
11 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.44
12 Romanians (Behar) 14.2
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 15.43
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 17.54
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.57
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 19.34
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.72
18 Cypriots (Behar) 24.84
19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 25.99
20 Turks (Behar) 26.1

What do you think?

[Leto]

Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.03
2 Atlantic_Med 27.56
3 North_European 21.94
4 Southwest_Asian 10.17
5 Gedrosia 5.4
6 South_Asian 1.56
7 Northwest_African 1.09
8 Siberian 0.58
9 East_Asian 0.39
10 Sub_Saharan 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.38
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 6.69
3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.52
4 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.6
5 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.11
6 Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.3
7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11.39
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 11.83
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 12.01
10 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.06
11 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.44
12 Romanians (Behar) 14.2
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 15.43
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 17.54
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.57
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 19.34
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.72
18 Cypriots (Behar) 24.84
19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 25.99
20 Turks (Behar) 26.1

What do you think?
I don't know if it's more accurate but you have cool results, I've always said European Greeks are nothing like Middle Easterners or Turks.

[xripkan]

I don't know if it's more accurate but you have cool results, I've always said European Greeks are nothing like Middle Easterners or Turks.

Yes, a Mainlander Greek is close to Eurοpean populations. He can be closer to Italy or Balkans or even both regions but he is quite different to Western Asians.

[Leto]

Yes, a Mainlander Greek is close to Eurοpean populations. He can be closer to Italy or Balkans or even both regions but he is quite different to Western Asians.
You also have an interesting Y haplogroup. What do you look like? Some Greeks are pretty light.

[karakartal]

What is the differences? Could you please send your old Eurogenes K13 and K15?

[xripkan]

You also have an interesting Y haplogroup. What do you look like? Some Greeks are pretty light.

Yes, it is quite rare in Greece and I can't figure out where it comes from! I am tall (185 cm) and somewhat lighter than average Greek but not blonde.

[xripkan]

What is the differences? Could you please send your old Eurogenes K13 and K15?
Old results (V5)
Eurogenes K15
Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.43
2 Atlantic 17.62
3 West_Med 14.48
4 West_Asian 14.37
5 Baltic 10.69
6 North_Sea 7.72
7 Eastern_Euro 6.44
8 Red_Sea 2.73
9 Oceanian 0.84
10 South_Asian 0.68

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 3.76
2 Italian_Abruzzo 6.99
3 Central_Greek 7.29
4 West_Sicilian 8.38
5 East_Sicilian 8.55
6 Greek_Thessaly 8.63
7 Ashkenazi 9.32
8 South_Italian 9.71
9 Bulgarian 10.29
10 Tuscan 10.47
11 Romanian 12.97
12 Sephardic_Jewish 14.1
13 Italian_Jewish 14.25
14 Algerian_Jewish 15.18
15 North_Italian 15.51
16 Serbian 16.53
17 Tunisian_Jewish 18.11
18 Cyprian 19.76
19 Turkish 19.81
20 Libyan_Jewish 20.88

Eurogenes K13
Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.25
2 West_Med 19.83
3 North_Atlantic 17.76
4 Baltic 16.46
5 West_Asian 13.6
6 Red_Sea 2.46
7 South_Asian 1.07
8 Oceanian 1
9 Siberian 0.57

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 3.15
2 Central_Greek 6.67
3 East_Sicilian 8.23
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.43
5 West_Sicilian 9.65
6 Ashkenazi 9.98
7 Bulgarian 10.08
8 South_Italian 10.97
9 Tuscan 11.76
10 Romanian 12.54
11 North_Italian 16.37
12 Italian_Jewish 16.49
13 Algerian_Jewish 16.51
14 Sephardic_Jewish 16.72
15 Serbian 16.86
16 Tunisian_Jewish 20.23
17 Libyan_Jewish 20.76
18 Cyprian 21.42
19 Moldavian 22.39
20 Turkish 22.45

[dududud]

The V3 is more reliable because more SNPs.

[xripkan]

This my mixed mode population for Eurogenes K15:

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.2% Greek + 34.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.4
2 55.5% South_Italian + 44.5% Bulgarian @ 1.47
3 80.2% South_Italian + 19.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.58
4 80.5% South_Italian + 19.5% Southwest_Russian @ 1.61
5 81.3% South_Italian + 18.7% Estonian_Polish @ 1.63
6 80.2% South_Italian + 19.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.65
7 64.7% Greek + 35.3% Central_Greek @ 1.68
8 68.4% Central_Greek + 31.6% Bulgarian @ 1.7
9 80.3% South_Italian + 19.7% Polish @ 1.74
10 81.3% South_Italian + 18.7% Belorussian @ 1.74
11 74.5% South_Italian + 25.5% Croatian @ 1.74
12 79% South_Italian + 21% South_Polish @ 1.81
13 87.7% Central_Greek + 12.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.82
14 88.4% Central_Greek + 11.6% Estonian_Polish @ 1.83
15 60.9% South_Italian + 39.1% Romanian @ 1.83
16 71.3% Greek + 28.7% East_Sicilian @ 1.85
17 88.4% Central_Greek + 11.6% Belorussian @ 1.87
18 87.8% Central_Greek + 12.2% Polish @ 1.92
19 83.4% Central_Greek + 16.6% Austrian @ 1.94
20 83.8% Central_Greek + 16.2% Croatian @ 1.95

Do you find it a bit Western-shifted or not?

[talombo]

The V3 is more reliable because more SNPs.

But the added SNPs are just guesses, how can you trust it ?

[xripkan]

Mixed mode population for dodecad K12b:

1 81.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.89
2 80.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 19.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.91
3 79.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 20.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.93
4 83.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 16.2% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.97
5 84.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 15.8% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.02
6 81.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.08
7 72.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.1
8 83.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 16.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.12
9 83% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 17% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.13
10 81.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.15
11 80.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 19.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.17
12 79.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 20.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.19
13 81.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.2
14 56.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 43.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.27
15 74.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 25.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.46
16 73.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 26.6% German (Dodecad) @ 2.47
17 75.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 24.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.53
18 78.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 21.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.56
19 58.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 41.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.7
20 63.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 36.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.72