Balkan Turk from Drama, Greece

[karakartal]

*This results is mine. I am from Drama, Greece.
*I share single population oracle.

MDLP K23b
1 Caucasian 36.28
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 18.8
3 European_Early_Farmers 14.79
4 Near_East 9.24
5 South_Central_Asian 8.43
6 Tungus-Altaic 4.76
7 North_African 4
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.5
9 East_Siberian 0.46
10 Australoid 0.27
11 South_Indian 0.22
12 Archaic_Human 0.14
13 Amerindian 0.12

1 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 4.83
2 Turk_Aydin ( ) 7.28
3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.59
4 Bulgarian ( ) 9.05
5 Macedonian ( ) 9.22
6 Gagauz ( ) 9.97
7 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 10.27
8 Montenegrian ( ) 10.5
9 Romanian ( ) 10.76
10 Croat_BH ( ) 10.99
11 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.02
12 Syrian_Jew ( ) 11.04
13 Bosnian ( ) 11.09
14 Serb_BH ( ) 11.24
15 Cretan ( ) 11.37
16 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.41
17 Croat ( ) 11.47
18 Sicilian_West ( ) 11.9
19 Romanian_Jew ( ) 11.92
20 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 11.99

Eurogenes K13
1 East_Med 23.45
2 West_Asian 17.97
3 Baltic 15.92
4 North_Atlantic 15.53
5 West_Med 15.36
6 Siberian 4.08
7 Red_Sea 4.04
8 South_Asian 1.2
9 Oceanian 1.2
10 East_Asian 0.82
11 Amerindian 0.44

1 Greek_Thessaly 8.98
2 Central_Greek 10.21
3 Italian_Abruzzo 11.47
4 East_Sicilian 11.64
5 Bulgarian 11.9
6 Ashkenazi 13.6
7 Romanian 13.78
8 West_Sicilian 14.13
9 South_Italian 14.21
10 Tuscan 16.37
11 Serbian 17.83
12 Turkish 18.01
13 Sephardic_Jewish 18.94
14 Algerian_Jewish 19.75
15 Italian_Jewish 19.81
16 North_Italian 20.46
17 Tunisian_Jewish 22.05
18 Cyprian 22.09
19 Moldavian 22.16
20 Azeri 22.24

Eurogenes K15
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.08
2 West_Asian 16.09
3 North_Sea 14.25
4 West_Med 12.62
5 Baltic 8.75
6 Eastern_Euro 8.65
7 Atlantic 6.62
8 Red_Sea 4.01
9 Siberian 3.6
10 South_Asian 1.43
11 Oceanian 1.04
12 Southeast_Asian 0.59
13 Amerindian 0.26

1 Greek_Thessaly 8.92
2 Ashkenazi 9.62
3 Central_Greek 10.86
4 Greek 11.51
5 East_Sicilian 12.02
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.24
7 Bulgarian 12.89
8 Romanian 13.67
9 South_Italian 14.28
10 West_Sicilian 15.05
11 Tuscan 15.74
12 Serbian 16.52
13 Italian_Jewish 17.19
14 Turkish 17.91
15 Sephardic_Jewish 18.08
16 Algerian_Jewish 19
17 North_Italian 20.19
18 Moldavian 20.22
19 Libyan_Jewish 20.88
20 Azeri 21.17

Dodecad K12b
1 Caucasus 30.19
2 North_European 23.09
3 Atlantic_Med 20.02
4 Gedrosia 10.03
5 Southwest_Asian 9.52
6 Siberian 2.84
7 East_Asian 2.08
8 Northwest_African 1.72
9 South_Asian 0.51

1 Greek (Dodecad) 12.44
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.62
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.89
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.91
5 Romanians (Behar) 15.11
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.3
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.93
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.18
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.22
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.56
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.33
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.98
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.33
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.34
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.83
16 Turks (Behar) 21.87
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.16
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.77
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.35
20 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.45

puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 Anatolian_NF 31.45
2 Caucasus_HG 29.76
3 European_HG 19.9
4 Near_East 11.71
5 Siberian 2.34
6 Beringian 1.92
7 Oceanian 1
8 East_Asian 0.97
9 Amerindian 0.46
10 South_Asian 0.35
11 South_African_HG 0.14

1 Turkish_Aydin 8.61
2 Ashkenazi_Jew 10.36
3 Greek 11.17
4 Albanian 12
5 Sicilian_East 12
6 Bulgarian 12.03
7 Sicilian_West 12.45
8 Tuscan 13.52
9 Turkish 13.75
10 Turkish_Kayseri 17.06
11 Kurdish 17.38
12 Nogai 18.08
13 Kumyk 18.41
14 Croatian 18.61
15 Moroccan_Jew 18.71
16 Lebanese 18.96
17 Turkish_Jew 19.17
18 Cypriot 19.34
19 Assyrian 19.41
20 Balkar 19.62

Eurogenes K36
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.08
Armenian 6.08
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.48
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.65
East_Central_Asian 1.26
East_Central_Euro 5.05
East_Med 11.37
Eastern_Euro 6.44
Fennoscandian 0.38
French 1.74
Iberian 3.99
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.93
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 9.20
North_African 1.47
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 11.31
North_Sea 2.24
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.43
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 1.09
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 4.00
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.80
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.40
West_Med 4.61

[Kaspias]

Yarı Selanik yarı İstanbul'lu değil misin? Drama ne alaka

[karakartal]

Yarı Selanik yarı İstanbul'lu değil misin? Drama ne alaka

My father side from Drama and Salonica but i say Salonica. Because Salonica bigger than Drama.

[Kaspias]

My father side from Drama and Salonica but i say Salonica. Because Salonica bigger than Drama.

Balkan Turk refugees from Thessaloniki genetically different than Drama. Drama was Bulgarian and Turkmen settlement since these people score similar to Bulgarian Turks. Thessaloniki genetically was mostly Greek.

On the other hand some people who migrated from Drama and Thessaloniki are originally from today's N.Macedonia, Ohrid-Skopje-Bitola regions. This is another fact. But your results seems typical when we consider your Istanbul admixture.

[karakartal]

Balkan Turk refugees from Thessaloniki genetically different than Drama. Drama was Bulgarian and Turkmen settlement since these people score similar to Bulgarian Turks. Thessaloniki genetically was mostly Greek.

On the other hand some people who migrated from Drama and Thessaloniki are originally from today's N.Macedonia, Ohrid-Skopje-Bitola regions. This is another fact. But your results seems typical when we consider your Istanbul admixture.

My father side not a from city center Salonica and Drama. They was lives villages.

I don't know my maternal from. I think they came Anatolia to Istanbul. But which region? I want to know that.

[Kaspias]

My father side not a from city center Salonica and Drama. They was lives villages.

I don't know my maternal from. I think they came Anatolia to Istanbul. But which region? I want to know that.Yeah that is good point. Can you tell which villages they lived so i can guess native population of there? You can also write via p.m.

About your maternal line, i thought they're natives of Istanbul. What was your "e-devlet" showing? What is the oldest record of your maternal side? Where s/he from? Your WA not that high so it is impossible they're originally from Central or Eastern Anatolia.

[karakartal]

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My Eurogenes K36 genetic similarity map
*Thanks for lonewolfcypriot

[karakartal]

Gedrosia Ancient Eurasia K6
# Population Percent
1 Natufian 45.04
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 26.59
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.69
4 East_Asian 4.92
5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.76

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian 7.2
2 Greek 7.21
3 Jew_Ashkenazi 7.35
4 Italian_South 7.69
5 Albanian 8.65
6 Armenia_ChL 8.86
7 Turkish 10.02
8 Jew_Moroccan 10.43
9 Bulgarian 10.56
10 Jew_Tunisian 12.12
11 Jew_Libyan 12.15
12 Romanian 12.37
13 Balkar 13.39
14 Kumyk 13.63
15 Adygei 13.88
16 Cypriot 13.99
17 Chechen 15.57
18 Croatian 16.14
19 Lebanese 16.31
20 Syrian 16.65

HarappaWorld
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 29.88
2 NE-Euro 22.94
3 Mediterranean 19.24
4 Baloch 11.74
5 SW-Asian 9.81
6 Siberian 3.39
7 NE-Asian 1.17
8 Papuan 1
9 Beringian 0.69
10 W-African 0.07
11 San 0.04
12 S-Indian 0.03

# Population (source) Distance
1 ashkenazi (harappa) 9.97
2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 11.61
3 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 12.61
4 tuscan (1000genomes) 13.95
5 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 14.3
6 tuscan (hgdp) 14.36
7 romanian-a (behar) 14.97
8 tuscan (hapmap) 14.98
9 sephardic-jew (behar) 17.94
10 morocco-jew (behar) 19.34
11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.75
12 italian (hgdp) 20.66
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 20.89
14 nogai (yunusbayev) 21.22
15 turk (behar) 21.92
16 stalskoe (xing) 22.04
17 romanian-b (behar) 22.4
18 turkish (harappa) 22.47
19 turkmen (yunusbayev) 24.27
20 azeri (harappa) 24.34

Dodecad K7b
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 38.72
2 West_Asian 28.45
3 Southern 26.54
4 Siberian 3.82
5 East_Asian 1.2
6 South_Asian 1.11
7 African 0.16

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 9.2
2 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.15
3 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.4
4 Sicilian (Dodecad) 13.17
5 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.18
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 13.48
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.59
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 13.9
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.39
10 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.07
11 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.16
12 Romanians (Behar) 17.01
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.9
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.74
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.87
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.39
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.69
18 Turks (Behar) 23.02
19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.86
20 Cypriots (Behar) 25.58

[Kaspias]

I sent pm.

[karakartal]

bumpullah

[grecoroman]

average turk with only lesser central and eastern asian

[karakartal]

average turk with only lesser central and eastern asian

I think my family mixed with Greeks and Bulgarians.

[Turul Karom]

True descendant of Turkic peoples of the steppes and a brother of mine indeed.

[karakartal]

Gedrosia K3
# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 92.18
2 E_Eurasian 7.21

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 0.946429
2 Kurd_N @ 1.560663
3 Loschbour @ 2.102191
4 Abkhasian @ 2.504986
5 Adygei @ 2.655858
6 Estonian @ 3.077782
7 Georgian_Jew @ 3.598941
8 Kurd_C @ 3.653948
9 Belarusian @ 3.725395
10 Mordovian @ 4.608617
11 Ukrainian @ 4.624737
12 Finnish @ 4.848717
13 Iranian_Jew @ 4.932148
14 Georgian @ 4.970251
15 Armenian @ 5.276241
16 Russian @ 5.314521
17 Lithuanian @ 5.452365
18 Hungarian @ 5.567343
19 Assyrian @ 5.676809
20 Bulgarian @ 5.929145

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +50% Adygei @ 0.000000
2 50% Albanian +50% Balkar @ 0.000000
3 50% Balkar +50% Greek @ 0.000000
4 50% Finnish +50% Georgian @ 0.000000
5 50% Georgian +50% Mordovian @ 0.000000
6 50% Georgian +50% Russian @ 0.000000
7 50% Norwegian +50% Turkish @ 0.277292
8 50% Czech +50% Turkish @ 0.284342
9 50% Balkar +50% French @ 0.299072
10 50% Bulgarian +50% Russian @ 0.356026
11 50% Croatian +50% Turkish @ 0.401080
12 50% Balkar +50% Croatian @ 0.473138
13 50% Balkar +50% Czech @ 0.522413
14 50% Adygei +50% Estonian @ 0.534559
15 50% Armenian +50% Finnish @ 0.537086
16 50% Chechen +50% Kurd_N @ 0.580552
17 50% Armenian +50% Russian @ 0.586520
18 50% Armenian +50% Mordovian @ 0.586530
19 50% Balkar +50% Norwegian @ 0.616666
20 50% Adygei +50% Loschbour @ 0.617618


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +25% Abkhasian +25% Balkar @ 0.000000

Gedrosia K12
Population Percent
1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 29.33
2 CAUCASUS 25.8
3 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 17.52
4 SW_ASIAN 14.35
5 BALOCHI 7.65
6 SE_ASIAN 3.19
7 W_SIBERIAN 1.57
8 INDO_TIBETAN 0.58

1 Greek 10.51
2 Turks_Istanbul 11.96
3 Sicilian 12.09
4 Turks_Aydin 15.7
5 Turks_Balikesir 17.85
6 Turks_Adana 19.88
7 Turks_Kayseri 20.69
8 Kurds_N 20.91
9 Iraqi_Chaldeans 21.79
10 Kurds_C 21.84
11 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 22.83
12 Iraqi_Jew 23.12
13 Kurds_F 23.29
14 Kurds_E 23.97
15 Iraqi_Mandaeans 24.7
16 Armenian 25.24
17 Assyrian 26.51
18 Iranian 28.78
19 Jordanian 30.1
20 Syrian 30.51

Dodecad V3
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 26.37
2 West_Asian 26.36
3 West_European 20.51
4 East_European 11.39
5 Southwest_Asian 7.52
6 Northeast_Asian 2.7
7 Southeast_Asian 1.81
8 South_Asian 1.68
9 Northwest_African 1.44
10 Palaeo_African 0.14
11 Neo_African 0.07

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 10.32
2 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 11.81
3 Tuscan (Xing) 15.8
4 Stalskoe (Xing) 16.38
5 Romanians_14 (Behar) 16.4
6 TSI (HapMap) 16.95
7 Tuscan (Henn) 17.03
8 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.16
9 Greek (Dodecad) 17.65
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.38
11 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.66
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.03
13 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.51
14 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 20.59
15 Balkans (Dodecad) 20.78
16 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.21
17 S_Italian (Dodecad) 21.81
18 Turks (Behar) 22.22
19 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.41
20 Kurd (Dodecad) 22.47

[Bosniensis]

Typical Byzantine Anatolian convert

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Byzantine_Empire_1025_AD.png

[lonewolfcypriot]

well your definitely a Turk

[Bosniensis]

well your definitely a Turk

Am I definitely English? I feel really proficient in English language, I've watched numerous English movies.

These are his EUROPEAN parts (bolded)

1 East_Med 23.45
2 West_Asian 17.97
3 Baltic 15.92
4 North_Atlantic 15.53
5 West_Med 15.36
6 Siberian 4.08
7 Red_Sea 4.04
8 South_Asian 1.2
9 Oceanian 1.2
10 East_Asian 0.82
11 Amerindian 0.44

HE IS OVER 88% European... Turks are EAST AND CENTRAL ASIAN PEOPLE!

[Kaspias]

Typical Byzantine Anatolian convert

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Byzantine_Empire_1025_AD.png

"Convert" with 5% Siberian hmm

[dosas]

Which part of Drama are you from?

I am from Drama, as well.

[lonewolfcypriot]

Am I definitely English? I feel really proficient in English language, I've watched numerous English movies.

These are his EUROPEAN parts (bolded)

1 East_Med 23.45
2 West_Asian 17.97
3 Baltic 15.92
4 North_Atlantic 15.53
5 West_Med 15.36
6 Siberian 4.08
7 Red_Sea 4.04
8 South_Asian 1.2
9 Oceanian 1.2
10 East_Asian 0.82
11 Amerindian 0.44

HE IS OVER 88% European... Turks are EAST AND CENTRAL ASIAN PEOPLE!

Dude, please go to bed it's past your bed time.

[Kaspias]

Which part of Drama are you from?

I am from Drama, as well.

From here;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drama_K%C3%B6pr%C3%BCs%C3%BC

[karakartal]

What do you think about my Anatolian ancestry? Which region am i close?

[Papastratosels26]

Interesting results man.

[karakartal]

Interesting results man.

What is your comment and consideration about my results?

[Bosniensis]

"Convert" with 5% Siberian hmm

That's beyond nothing... How much Siberian Uyghurs and Kazakhs have?

REAL TURK:

1 Siberian 34.97
2 East_Asian 21.62
3 West_Asian 12.86
4 Baltic 12.16
5 North_Atlantic 8.6
6 South_Asian 4.6
7 Amerindian 2.69
8 West_Med 1.33
9 Northeast_African 0.75
10 East_Med 0.21
11 Oceanian 0.16
12 Red_Sea 0.06

And you think 5% is A LOT in comparison to Kazakhs?

Kazakhs are Turks not Anatolians.

[karakartal]

That's beyond nothing... How much Siberian Uyghurs and Kazakhs have?

REAL TURK:

1 Siberian 34.97
2 East_Asian 21.62
3 West_Asian 12.86
4 Baltic 12.16
5 North_Atlantic 8.6
6 South_Asian 4.6
7 Amerindian 2.69
8 West_Med 1.33
9 Northeast_African 0.75
10 East_Med 0.21
11 Oceanian 0.16
12 Red_Sea 0.06

And you think 5% is A LOT in comparison to Kazakhs?

Kazakhs are Turks not Anatolians.

In Europe; which populations am i close? I think Greece&Bulgaria.

[Bosniensis]

In Europe; which populations am i close? I think Greece&Bulgaria.

yes

[xripkan]

In my opinion you have ancestry from four different populations in this order:
1) Greeks
2)Bulgarians/South Slavs
3)Anatolian
4)Turkic

[xripkan]

Typical Byzantine Anatolian convert

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Byzantine_Empire_1025_AD.png

A typical Anatolian would not have Greek and Italian populations so high at gedmatch. In addition Byzantine Anatolians had no Turkic admixture.

[Bornoz]

That's beyond nothing... How much Siberian Uyghurs and Kazakhs have?

REAL TURK:

1 Siberian 34.97
2 East_Asian 21.62
3 West_Asian 12.86
4 Baltic 12.16
5 North_Atlantic 8.6
6 South_Asian 4.6
7 Amerindian 2.69
8 West_Med 1.33
9 Northeast_African 0.75
10 East_Med 0.21
11 Oceanian 0.16
12 Red_Sea 0.06

And you think 5% is A LOT in comparison to Kazakhs?

Kazakhs are Turks not Anatolians.

Sen nasıl bi Boşnak saksosu çıktın ya :lol:
Anadolulu yarramı sokacam şimdi atalarının bi yerlerine

[karakartal]

In my opinion you have ancestry from four different populations in this order:
1) Greeks
2)Bulgarians/South Slavs
3)Anatolian
4)Turkic

I think like this. But one point is very confusing. Look at my Eurogenes K36 results;
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.08
Armenian 6.08
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.48
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.65
East_Central_Asian 1.26
East_Central_Euro 5.05
East_Med 11.37
Eastern_Euro 6.44
Fennoscandian 0.38
French 1.74
Iberian 3.99
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.93
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 9.20
North_African 1.47
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 11.31
North_Sea 2.24
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.43
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 1.09
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 4.00
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.80
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.40
West_Med 4.61

Did you see central euro percentage? Why is too high for my admixture?

[Kaspias]

I think like this. But one point is very confusing. Look at my Eurogenes K36 results;
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.08
Armenian 6.08
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.48
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.65
East_Central_Asian 1.26
East_Central_Euro 5.05
East_Med 11.37
Eastern_Euro 6.44
Fennoscandian 0.38
French 1.74
Iberian 3.99
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.93
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 9.20
North_African 1.47
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 11.31
North_Sea 2.24
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.43
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 1.09
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 4.00
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.80
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.40
West_Med 4.61

Did you see central euro percentage? Why is too high for my admixture?

I suspect some scores in K36 distributed randomly. Compare your results with mine:

Population
Amerindian 0.34 Pct
Arabian 1.64 Pct
Armenian 4.33 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.02 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 1.01 Pct
East_Balkan 6.64 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.46 Pct
East_Med 12.28 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.67 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.72 Pct
French 2.44 Pct
Iberian 1.82 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.70 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 8.97 Pct
North_African 0.06 Pct
North_Atlantic 4.06 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.08 Pct
North_Sea 5.65 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.29 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 5.80 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 3.25 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.11 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.33 Pct
West_Med 2.33 Pct


You will see some weird scores as in you.


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Also you're modelling as 30% Greek Thessaloniki 30% Bulgarian %20 GR_Cental_Anatolia and 20% Turkmen.

++ For another comparison, i got 65% Bulgarian 30% Turkmen and 5% Greek Thessaloniki when i run same model for myself. 0 For GR_Central Anatolia.

[karakartal]

I think Eurogenes K36 very accurate calculator in Gedmatch. I trust it. I think i must be a question LukaszM.

[xripkan]

I think like this. But one point is very confusing. Look at my Eurogenes K36 results;
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.08
Armenian 6.08
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.48
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.65
East_Central_Asian 1.26
East_Central_Euro 5.05
East_Med 11.37
Eastern_Euro 6.44
Fennoscandian 0.38
French 1.74
Iberian 3.99
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.93
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 9.20
North_African 1.47
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 11.31
North_Sea 2.24
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.43
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 1.09
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 4.00
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.80
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.40
West_Med 4.61

Did you see central euro percentage? Why is too high for my admixture?

Take a look at these K36 component frequency maps: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34514-K36-component-frequency-Google-maps
Central Euro has a peak in Western Thrace in Balkan area.

[Kaspias]

Take a look at these K36 component frequency maps: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34514-K36-component-frequency-Google-maps
Central Euro has a peak in Western Thrace in Balkan area.

Wow! I haven't realized it till now. Thank you! I wonder it's why. Also North-Sea is a bit high.

[Cumansky]

CAUCASUS-LEVANT-ABYSSINIA 36.6
BROADLY-BALKAN 32
ILLYRIAN 16.2
PAZYRYK 6.8
ALTAI-STEPPE 6.6
MAGHREBI 1.6

Quick model for you I made now using the existing results I think I ran anthrogenica right?

[karakartal]

CAUCASUS-LEVANT-ABYSSINIA 36.6
BROADLY-BALKAN 32
ILLYRIAN 16.2
PAZYRYK 6.8
ALTAI-STEPPE 6.6
MAGHREBI 1.6

Quick model for you I made now using the existing results I think I ran anthrogenica right?

What do you think for modern populations? Which populations is my ancestry?

[karakartal]

Here is my chromosome analysis;
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OjiQgZ0Vi6CeVV_zWHBfr3HkiPqAdjXV/view?usp=drivesdk

I need to help. What do you think about my European PCA? Am i have a Italian ancestry?

[Voskos]

Cool results. High europid admixture combined with Turkic elements.

[Pubiczar]

Your results indicate that you are a three way mix of Bulgarian, Greek and Turk.
Or should I say a native Macedonian plus Turk!

[Kaspias]

Your results indicate that you are a three way mix of Bulgarian, Greek and Turk.
Or should I say a native Macedonian plus Turk!

What is your comment to this result?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21
2 Baltic 20.37
3 North_Atlantic 15.55
4 West_Asian 14.91
5 West_Med 12.29
6 Siberian 7.57
7 Red_Sea 3.25
8 South_Asian 2.06
9 East_Asian 1.16
10 Amerindian 0.7
11 Sub-Saharan 0.61
12 Oceanian 0.53

[Pubiczar]

What is your comment to this result?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21
2 Baltic 20.37
3 North_Atlantic 15.55
4 West_Asian 14.91
5 West_Med 12.29
6 Siberian 7.57
7 Red_Sea 3.25
8 South_Asian 2.06
9 East_Asian 1.16
10 Amerindian 0.7
11 Sub-Saharan 0.61
12 Oceanian 0.53

Similar to Central Macedonian but with more West Asian and less West Med on average, which tells me this should be a Thracian Greek or Bulgarian.
However, there is some significant Siberian and Asian admixture...
So I would say 90% Thracian + 10% something Asian.
I guess this are your results?

[Kaspias]

Similar to Central Macedonian but with more West Asian and less West Med on average, which tells me this should be a Thracian Greek or Bulgarian.
However, there is some significant Siberian and Asian admixture...
So I would say 90% Thracian + 10% something Asian.
I guess this are your results?

Decent guess. Yes, my results.

[karakartal]

Your results indicate that you are a three way mix of Bulgarian, Greek and Turk.
Or should I say a native Macedonian plus Turk!

In Global 25, i am %50 Macedonian, %50 Turkish_Istanbul

[Mortimer]

I'm no expert but you seem to be a turk or some balkan nation cool results congrats

[Livin]

You are very mixed

greco-balkan
turkic
anatolian/west asian


What is your haplo?

[Freeroostah]

According to the calculators you could be Greek-Turkish mix

If you remove the Turkish part, you are basically mainlander Greek :)

[karakartal]

You are very mixed

greco-balkan
turkic
anatolian/west asian


What is your haplo?

I don't do a y-dna test. Maybe later..

[Kaspias]

I don't do a y-dna test. Maybe later..

Baba tarafından deden neredendi?

[karakartal]

Baba tarafından deden neredendi?

Istanbul dogumlu ama Drama Kozlu köylü

[Kaspias]

Istanbul dogumlu ama Drama Kozlu köylü

Kesin yap y-dna testini maddi durumun elverdiğinde. Biliyorsun hikayesini :)

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

asil mevzu ydna. otozomal dna tarih içinde degismeye mahkumdur.

[karakartal]

Hikayesi ne ki valla aklima gelmedi. Para olunca yapariz yalandan ya

[karakartal]

asil mevzu ydna. otozomal dna tarih içinde degismeye mahkumdur.

bence otozomal cok yararli kokenini anlaman acisindan

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

bence otozomal cok yararli kokenini anlaman acisindan

karisim herkeste var. bu doganin kanunu gibi bisey. soyle bana memleketini anlatayim sana otozomal sonuclarini. ydna ise tahmini en zor olan ve bana gore daha fazla sabit bilgi veriyor. deden istedigi kadar ecnebi kari almis olsun , ydna heç degismiyor.

[karakartal]

karisim herkeste var. bu doganin kanunu gibi bisey. soyle bana memleketini anlatayim sana otozomal sonuclarini. ydna ise tahmini en zor olan ve bana gore daha fazla sabit bilgi veriyor. deden istedigi kadar ecnebi kari almis olsun , ydna heç degismiyor.

iste ben tum karisimlari gormek istiyorum ama. sadece dedemin milletini ben ne yapayim? benim istedigim tum kokenimi detaylica ogrenebilmek. bunu da otozomal dna gayet iyi sekilde veriyor. ha y-dna testine karsi degilim, kesinlikle yaptiracagim :)

[Kaspias]

Hikayesi ne ki valla aklima gelmedi. Para olunca yapariz yalandan ya

Debreli

[karakartal]

PuntDNAL K13

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 30.68
2 NE_Europe 24.52
3 West_Asia 23.82
4 SW_Asia 11.66
5 Siberia 4.63
6 South_Asia 1.53
7 Oceania 1.36
8 East_Africa 0.47
9 SE_Asia 0.41
10 NE_Asia 0.39
11 West_Africa 0.35
12 Americas 0.19

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Central 8.21
2 Greek_Thessaly 9.19
3 Albanian 9.31
4 Kosovar 9.99
5 Italian_Abruzzo 11.11
6 Bulgarian 11.67
7 Ashkenazy_Jew 11.85
8 Romanian 12.36
9 Italian_Tuscan 12.48
10 Macedonian 12.67
11 Italian_Sicilian 13.22
12 Montenegrin 14
13 Turkish_Aydin 14.68
14 Turkish 15.75
15 Sephardic_Jew 15.77
16 Serbian 16.36
17 Kumyk 17.35
18 Balkar 17.58
19 Italian_Bergamo 17.8
20 Turkish_Kayseri 18.67

This calculator is very accurate.

[Kaspias]

PuntDNAL K13

#PopulationPercent
1SW_Europe30.68
2NE_Europe24.52
3West_Asia23.82
4SW_Asia11.66
5Siberia4.63
6South_Asia1.53
7Oceania1.36
8East_Africa0.47
9SE_Asia0.41
10NE_Asia0.39
11West_Africa0.35
12Americas0.19

#Population (source)Distance
1Greek_Central8.21
2Greek_Thessaly9.19
3Albanian9.31
4Kosovar9.99
5Italian_Abruzzo11.11
6Bulgarian11.67
7Ashkenazy_Jew11.85
8Romanian12.36
9Italian_Tuscan12.48
10Macedonian12.67
11Italian_Sicilian13.22
12Montenegrin14
13Turkish_Aydin14.68
14Turkish15.75
15Sephardic_Jew15.77
16Serbian16.36
17Kumyk17.35
18Balkar17.58
19Italian_Bergamo17.8
20Turkish_Kayseri18.67

This calculator is very accurate.K15 is more accurate for us

[karakartal]

puntDNAL K15
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 31.11
2 NE_European 28.62
3 Caucasian 23.81
4 SW_Asian 8.16
5 Siberian 3.03
6 Horn_Of_Africa 1.5
7 Beringian 1.08
8 S_Indian 0.93
9 Oceanian 0.89
10 E_Asian 0.79
11 Omo_River 0.08

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Central 5.93
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.65
3 Albanian 9.24
4 Tuscan 9.44
5 Ashkenazy_Jew 12.01
6 Montenegrin 12.65
7 Bulgarian 13.14
8 Italian 13.29
9 Sicilian 13.51
10 Romanian 13.94
11 Macedonian 14.11
12 Bosnian 15.13
13 Sephardic_Jew 15.19
14 Brazilian 19.02
15 Serbian 19.8
16 Portuguese 21.03
17 Spaniard 21.96
18 Turk_Kayseri 22.5
19 French 23.73
20 Nogai 24.56

[Kaspias]

puntDNAL K15
# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 31.11
2 NE_European 28.62
3 Caucasian 23.81
4 SW_Asian 8.16
5 Siberian 3.03
6 Horn_Of_Africa 1.5
7 Beringian 1.08
8 S_Indian 0.93
9 Oceanian 0.89
10 E_Asian 0.79
11 Omo_River 0.08

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Central 5.93
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.65
3 Albanian 9.24
4 Tuscan 9.44
5 Ashkenazy_Jew 12.01
6 Montenegrin 12.65
7 Bulgarian 13.14
8 Italian 13.29
9 Sicilian 13.51
10 Romanian 13.94
11 Macedonian 14.11
12 Bosnian 15.13
13 Sephardic_Jew 15.19
14 Brazilian 19.02
15 Serbian 19.8
16 Portuguese 21.03
17 Spaniard 21.96
18 Turk_Kayseri 22.5
19 French 23.73
20 Nogai 24.56

Mixed mode lol

[karakartal]

Mixed mode lol

1 62% Cypriot + 38% Karelian @ 1.98
2 61.6% Cypriot + 38.4% Russian @ 2.28
3 62.7% Cypriot + 37.3% Finnish @ 2.48
4 86.7% Greek_Central + 13.3% Uzbek @ 2.72
5 61.4% Cypriot + 38.6% Mordovian @ 2.77
6 82.4% Greek_Thessaly + 17.6% Turkmen @ 2.9
7 85.3% Greek_Thessaly + 14.7% Uzbek @ 2.99
8 92% Greek_Central + 8% Selkup @ 3.1
9 93.1% Greek_Central + 6.9% Koryak @ 3.28
10 89.8% Greek_Central + 10.2% Hazara @ 3.31
11 69.4% Bulgarian + 30.6% Azerbaijani @ 3.39
12 89.5% Greek_Central + 10.5% Uyghur @ 3.41
13 67.7% Macedonian + 32.3% Assyrian @ 3.42
14 77.1% Albanian + 22.9% Tadjik @ 3.43
15 94.1% Greek_Central + 5.9% Dolgan @ 3.45
16 87.3% Greek_Central + 12.7% Bashkir @ 3.47
17 61.9% Macedonian + 38.1% Turk_Kayseri @ 3.5
18 63.7% Bulgarian + 36.3% Turk_Kayseri @ 3.56
19 68.2% Macedonian + 31.8% Druze @ 3.58
20 66.6% Bosnian + 33.4% Druze @ 3.66

[Kaspias]

1 62% Cypriot + 38% Karelian @ 1.98
2 61.6% Cypriot + 38.4% Russian @ 2.28
3 62.7% Cypriot + 37.3% Finnish @ 2.48
4 86.7% Greek_Central + 13.3% Uzbek @ 2.72
5 61.4% Cypriot + 38.6% Mordovian @ 2.77
6 82.4% Greek_Thessaly + 17.6% Turkmen @ 2.9
7 85.3% Greek_Thessaly + 14.7% Uzbek @ 2.99
8 92% Greek_Central + 8% Selkup @ 3.1
9 93.1% Greek_Central + 6.9% Koryak @ 3.28
10 89.8% Greek_Central + 10.2% Hazara @ 3.31
11 69.4% Bulgarian + 30.6% Azerbaijani @ 3.39
12 89.5% Greek_Central + 10.5% Uyghur @ 3.41
13 67.7% Macedonian + 32.3% Assyrian @ 3.42
14 77.1% Albanian + 22.9% Tadjik @ 3.43
15 94.1% Greek_Central + 5.9% Dolgan @ 3.45
16 87.3% Greek_Central + 12.7% Bashkir @ 3.47
17 61.9% Macedonian + 38.1% Turk_Kayseri @ 3.5
18 63.7% Bulgarian + 36.3% Turk_Kayseri @ 3.56
19 68.2% Macedonian + 31.8% Druze @ 3.58
20 66.6% Bosnian + 33.4% Druze @ 3.66

6 82.4% Greek_Thessaly + 17.6% Turkmen @ 2.9

[karakartal]

Accurately ��

[Kaspias]

Accurately ��

Nop.

Thessaloniki+Drama=Northern Greek. Istanbul is shifting you to the Thessaly. And Turkic line adds EE. At the end you get Thessaly + Turkmen.

[karakartal]

Nop.

Thessaloniki+Drama=Northern Greek. Istanbul is shifting you to the Thessaly. And Turkic line adds EE. At the end you get Thessaly + Turkmen.

My West Asian percentage high than other Balkan Turk samples. I think my Istanbul side came from Anatolia.

[Kaspias]

My West Asian percentage high than other Balkan Turk samples. I think my Istanbul side came from Anatolia.

Istanbul Turks already score around 20% West Asian. Anatolian Turks score more than 20-25%. Your West Asian percentage same with Kardzhali Turks.

[karakartal]

Istanbul Turks already score around 20% West Asian. Anatolian Turks score more than 20-25%. Your West Asian percentage same with Kardzhali Turks.

but the other balkan turks score less west asian than me. also i think my family came balkans from anatolia. but which region i have no idea. the myths say every balkan turk came balkans from konya or karaman.

[Kaspias]

but the other balkan turks score less west asian than me. also i think my family came balkans from anatolia. but which region i have no idea. the myths say every balkan turk came balkans from konya or karaman.

Konya Karaman olayını boşver bir önce. Şehir efsanesinden genetik yürümez. Karamanoğullarından gelen göç Balkan Türklerinin 5%-10%'unu anca oluşturur. Ailenin Anadoludan Balkanlara gelmesi Anadolu karışımı olduğunu göstermez. Balkanlara göç ettirilen ailelerin istisnalar olmakla birlikte neredeyse hepsi karışımsız Türkmendi. Şuanki genetik verilerine ve sınırlı kaynaklarla çıkardığım sonuç bu. Kesinlik içermiyor tabi. Diğer Balkan Türklerinin senden daha az batı asya alması çok normal değil mi? Bir tarafın İstanbullu. İstanbulun Drama ile aynı miktarda batılı olması beklenemez. Anadolu içlerinden karışımın olsa batı asyan 20'den aşağı olmazdı. Bendeki Balkan Türkü-Anadolu karışımlarının çocukları 20-23 arası WA almış.

Karnobat = 16
Drama=14
Selanik=12
Istanbul=20
Romanya=15

Batı Asya ortalamaları. Seninde 17 olduğundan gayet tutarlı sonucun var. Dediğim gibi İstanbul'daki tarafından bir tarafın Marmara kıyılarından(Yalova-İznik vb.) olabilir.

[karakartal]

Here is my Eurogenes K36 similarity map;
https://i.hizliresim.com/jgDZVm.jpg

What do you think?

[karakartal]

In Global 25 my best fit;
Greek:10 Macedonian:40 Turkish_Istanbul:25 Turkish_Balıkesir:25

I have zero admixture Bulgarian and Albanian.

[Seya]

u seem to be heavily mixed with balkanites. the distance to "romanian" population on those calculators is similar to mine ;) :picard1:
u get more asian on average than me but i have more East_Siberian, Paleo_Siberian, South_East_Asian and Amerindian and u have )) u get a lot of South_Central_Asian instead

[Nanushka]

Gedrosia K3
# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 92.18
2 E_Eurasian 7.21

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Chechen @ 0.946429
2 Kurd_N @ 1.560663
3 Loschbour @ 2.102191
4 Abkhasian @ 2.504986
5 Adygei @ 2.655858
6 Estonian @ 3.077782
7 Georgian_Jew @ 3.598941
8 Kurd_C @ 3.653948
9 Belarusian @ 3.725395
10 Mordovian @ 4.608617
11 Ukrainian @ 4.624737
12 Finnish @ 4.848717
13 Iranian_Jew @ 4.932148
14 Georgian @ 4.970251
15 Armenian @ 5.276241
16 Russian @ 5.314521
17 Lithuanian @ 5.452365
18 Hungarian @ 5.567343
19 Assyrian @ 5.676809
20 Bulgarian @ 5.929145

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +50% Adygei @ 0.000000
2 50% Albanian +50% Balkar @ 0.000000
3 50% Balkar +50% Greek @ 0.000000
4 50% Finnish +50% Georgian @ 0.000000
5 50% Georgian +50% Mordovian @ 0.000000
6 50% Georgian +50% Russian @ 0.000000
7 50% Norwegian +50% Turkish @ 0.277292
8 50% Czech +50% Turkish @ 0.284342
9 50% Balkar +50% French @ 0.299072
10 50% Bulgarian +50% Russian @ 0.356026
11 50% Croatian +50% Turkish @ 0.401080
12 50% Balkar +50% Croatian @ 0.473138
13 50% Balkar +50% Czech @ 0.522413
14 50% Adygei +50% Estonian @ 0.534559
15 50% Armenian +50% Finnish @ 0.537086
16 50% Chechen +50% Kurd_N @ 0.580552
17 50% Armenian +50% Russian @ 0.586520
18 50% Armenian +50% Mordovian @ 0.586530
19 50% Balkar +50% Norwegian @ 0.616666
20 50% Adygei +50% Loschbour @ 0.617618


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +25% Abkhasian +25% Balkar @ 0.000000

I think your results reflect almost typical western Turk shifting to southern Europe and Med region, though some of your results are surprisingly more northern Caucasian, like K3

Here is mine to compare:

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 90.16
2 E_Eurasian 8.89


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Adygei @ 0.716452
2 Chechen @ 1.945142
3 Mordovian @ 2.253242
4 Balkar@ 2.391876
5 Finnish @ 2.464474
6 Russian @ 2.880298
7 Kurd_N @ 3.248846
8 Iranian @ 4.099285
9 Turkish @ 4.122390
10 Kurd_C @ 4.629356
11 Loschbour @ 4.733916
12 Abkhasian @ 5.147567
13 Estonian @ 5.727939
14 Georgian_Jew @ 5.811218
15 Belarusian @ 6.379163
16 Iranian_Jew @ 7.011876
17 Ukrainian @ 7.279558
18 Georgian @ 7.553877
19 Armenian @ 7.692570
20 Assyrian @ 7.879775

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurd_N +50% Russian @ 0.000000
2 50% Loschbour +50% Turkish @ 0.000000
3 50% Finnish +50% Kurd_N @ 0.449095
4 50% Kurd_N +50% Mordovian @ 0.570460
5 50% Abkhasian +50% Turkish @ 0.577339
6 50% Abkhasian +50% Balkar @ 0.650932
7 50% Balkar +50% Georgian_Jew @ 0.658537
8 50% Adygei +50% Adygei @ 0.716452
9 50% Balkar +50% Kurd_N @ 0.760945
10 50% Estonian +50% Turkish @ 0.802717
11 50% Adygei +50% Kurd_C @ 0.839087
12 50% Balkar +50% Loschbour @ 0.936547
13 50% Chechen +50% Mordovian @ 0.998340
14 50% Chechen +50% Finnish @ 1.015691
15 50% Kurd_C +50% Mordovian @ 1.024382
16 50% Balkar +50% Estonian @ 1.069365
17 50% Chechen +50% Russian @ 1.072301
18 50% Iranian +50% Loschbour @ 1.107607
19 50% Kurd_N +50% Turkish @ 1.119775
20 50% Chechen +50% Turkish @ 1.123015


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +25% Abkhasian +25% Balochi @ 0.000000

[karakartal]

u seem to be heavily mixed with balkanites. the distance to "romanian" population on those calculators is similar to mine ;) :picard1:
u get more asian on average than me but i have more East_Siberian, Paleo_Siberian, South_East_Asian and Amerindian and u have )) u get a lot of South_Central_Asian instead

my maternal grandfather's mother from constanta, romania. maybe they mixed i don't know :)

[karakartal]

I think your results reflect almost typical western Turk shifting to southern Europe and Med region, though some of your results are surprisingly more northern Caucasian, like K3

Here is mine to compare:

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 90.16
2 E_Eurasian 8.89


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Adygei @ 0.716452
2 Chechen @ 1.945142
3 Mordovian @ 2.253242
4 Balkar@ 2.391876
5 Finnish @ 2.464474
6 Russian @ 2.880298
7 Kurd_N @ 3.248846
8 Iranian @ 4.099285
9 Turkish @ 4.122390
10 Kurd_C @ 4.629356
11 Loschbour @ 4.733916
12 Abkhasian @ 5.147567
13 Estonian @ 5.727939
14 Georgian_Jew @ 5.811218
15 Belarusian @ 6.379163
16 Iranian_Jew @ 7.011876
17 Ukrainian @ 7.279558
18 Georgian @ 7.553877
19 Armenian @ 7.692570
20 Assyrian @ 7.879775

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurd_N +50% Russian @ 0.000000
2 50% Loschbour +50% Turkish @ 0.000000
3 50% Finnish +50% Kurd_N @ 0.449095
4 50% Kurd_N +50% Mordovian @ 0.570460
5 50% Abkhasian +50% Turkish @ 0.577339
6 50% Abkhasian +50% Balkar @ 0.650932
7 50% Balkar +50% Georgian_Jew @ 0.658537
8 50% Adygei +50% Adygei @ 0.716452
9 50% Balkar +50% Kurd_N @ 0.760945
10 50% Estonian +50% Turkish @ 0.802717
11 50% Adygei +50% Kurd_C @ 0.839087
12 50% Balkar +50% Loschbour @ 0.936547
13 50% Chechen +50% Mordovian @ 0.998340
14 50% Chechen +50% Finnish @ 1.015691
15 50% Kurd_C +50% Mordovian @ 1.024382
16 50% Balkar +50% Estonian @ 1.069365
17 50% Chechen +50% Russian @ 1.072301
18 50% Iranian +50% Loschbour @ 1.107607
19 50% Kurd_N +50% Turkish @ 1.119775
20 50% Chechen +50% Turkish @ 1.123015


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abkhasian +25% Abkhasian +25% Balochi @ 0.000000

thanks for your thoughts :) what do you think about my anatolian side? which region am i close?

[Nurzat]

you are quite far from any population average, so it points to somewhat mixed ancestry - Turks are many and diverse, from the ones bordering the Near East to those in the Balkans, so I am saying you may have Turkish ancestry from different places. you're clearly on the more European side of Turks, with most similarity to eastern Balkans (northern Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians) and southern Italy. overall you seem to be genetically rather Balkanic than West Asian, though there's probably a continuum between the two, you may be there

[Kaspias]

you are quite far from any population average, so it points to somewhat mixed ancestry - Turks are many and diverse, from the ones bordering the Near East to those in the Balkans, so I am saying you may have Turkish ancestry from different places. you're clearly on the more European side of Turks, with most similarity to eastern Balkans (northern Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians) and southern Italy. overall you seem to be genetically rather Balkanic than West Asian, though there's probably a continuum between the two, you may be there

He is close to Thracian Turk average but there are no Balkan Turk samples in gedmatch spreadsheet.

[karakartal]

Thank you for your thoughts.

I think i am a mixed with Greeks, Albanians and Bulgarians. Because my ancestors live this area many years.