Gedmatch results of a Slavonian Serb

[CommonSense]

This woman is a second or third generation American, but all of her listed ancestors were Serbs from Slavonia (even listed the slava for some of them). Her surname is Kočić. It's a rare find because people from this region seldom get tested, I've seen a few Croats, but this is the first Serbian kit that's been posted anywhere as far as I know.

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.92
2 North_Atlantic 24.47
3 West_Med 16.4
4 East_Med 13.17
5 West_Asian 11.93
6 Red_Sea 1.6
7 South_Asian 1.09
8 Siberian 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.37
2 Serbian 5.17
3 Romanian 7.19
4 Croatian 7.27
5 Bulgarian 9.02
6 Hungarian 9.05
7 Austrian 12.64
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.48
9 East_German 13.68
10 South_Polish 14.4
11 Ukrainian 14.83
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.81
13 Polish 17.89
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.99
15 Southwest_Russian 17.99
16 West_German 18.9
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.8
18 South_Dutch 20.36
19 Estonian_Polish 20.5
20 French 20.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Moldavian + 35.7% Romanian @ 2.15
2 69.8% Moldavian + 30.2% Bulgarian @ 2.18
3 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.26
4 86.5% Croatian + 13.5% Armenian @ 2.3
5 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Central_Greek @ 2.31
6 88.7% Moldavian + 11.3% South_Italian @ 2.37
7 82.9% Moldavian + 17.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.42
8 55.9% Croatian + 44.1% Bulgarian @ 2.45
9 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.47
10 60.4% Bulgarian + 39.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.49
11 78.2% Croatian + 21.8% Central_Greek @ 2.51
12 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.56
13 66.4% Romanian + 33.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.59
14 84% Croatian + 16% Turkish @ 2.61
15 72.7% Romanian + 27.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.61
16 91.8% Moldavian + 8.2% Cyprian @ 2.63
17 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Assyrian @ 2.64
18 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Cyprian @ 2.65
19 90.9% Moldavian + 9.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.66
20 86.6% Moldavian + 13.4% Tuscan @ 2.68

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.91
2 North_Sea 17.97
3 Atlantic 14.47
4 West_Med 11.97
5 West_Asian 11.07
6 East_Med 10.94
7 Eastern_Euro 9.38
8 Red_Sea 0.96
9 South_Asian 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.65
2 Romanian 7.12
3 Croatian 7.99
4 Serbian 8.33
5 Bulgarian 8.83
6 Hungarian 9.16
7 Austrian 11.08
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.46
9 South_Polish 13.41
10 Ukrainian 13.81
11 East_German 14.01
12 Greek_Thessaly 15.99
13 Polish 16.4
14 Russian_Smolensk 16.49
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.55
16 Southwest_Russian 17.31
17 Greek 17.36
18 Belorussian 18.63
19 Estonian_Polish 19.05
20 North_Italian 19.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60% Bulgarian + 40% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.99
2 67.5% Romanian + 32.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.36
3 68.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 31.4% South_Italian @ 4.37
4 79% Romanian + 21% Lithuanian @ 4.43
5 63.1% Bulgarian + 36.9% Ukrainian @ 4.44
6 65.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 34.7% Central_Greek @ 4.44
7 59.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.9% Greek @ 4.52
8 62.5% Bulgarian + 37.5% South_Polish @ 4.57
9 54.9% South_Polish + 45.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.57
10 56.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.58
11 70.8% Romanian + 29.2% Ukrainian @ 4.68
12 73.7% Bulgarian + 26.3% Lithuanian @ 4.73
13 57.8% Greek_Thessaly + 42.2% Lithuanian @ 4.77
14 70.4% Romanian + 29.6% South_Polish @ 4.8
15 66.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33.5% East_Sicilian @ 4.83
16 73.5% Bulgarian + 26.5% Estonian @ 4.84
17 65% Ukrainian_Lviv + 35% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.86
18 63.6% South_Polish + 36.4% Central_Greek @ 4.87
19 62% Moldavian + 38% Bulgarian @ 4.88
20 67% South_Polish + 33% South_Italian @ 4.9

Dodecad K12B

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.23
2 Atlantic_Med 26.3
3 Caucasus 23
4 Gedrosia 6.01
5 Southwest_Asian 5.01
6 Siberian 0.25
7 Northwest_African 0.11
8 Southeast_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 6.68
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.39
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.07
4 Hungarians (Behar) 10.7
5 German (Dodecad) 15.96
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.26
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.92
8 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 20.07
9 French (Dodecad) 21.44
10 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.6
11 French (HGDP) 21.64
12 Greek (Dodecad) 22.34
13 TSI30 (Metspalu) 22.35
14 Tuscan (HGDP) 22.83
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.93
16 C_Italian (Dodecad) 23.62
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 23.7
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 23.84
19 English (Dodecad) 24.03
20 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 24.35

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 34.2% German (Dodecad) @ 1.45
2 76.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.59
3 76.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.84
4 79.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.9
5 71.4% Romanians (Behar) + 28.6% German (Dodecad) @ 2.09
6 62.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.12
7 59.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.19
8 66.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 33.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.25
9 72.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.3% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.26
10 68% Hungarians (Behar) + 32% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.27
11 81% Romanians (Behar) + 19% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.28
12 62.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.3
13 68.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.33
14 76.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.2% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.36
15 71.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 28.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.36
16 80.7% Romanians (Behar) + 19.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.38
17 62.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.8% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.4
18 76.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.41
19 82.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.7% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.43
20 57.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.43

puntDNAL K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 48.71
2 Mediterranean 27.93
3 Caucasian 16.14
4 SW_Asian 4.51
5 Horn_Of_Africa 1.75
6 Siberian 0.39
7 Wht_Nile_River 0.34
8 Omo_River 0.16
9 S_African 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 2.87
2 Croatian 5.15
3 Bosnian 5.48
4 Hungarian 7.18
5 Macedonian 7.63
6 South_German 8.27
7 Slovenian 8.39
8 Austrian 8.48
9 Utahn_White 8.68
10 French 9.11
11 Irish 9.14
12 Romanian 9.53
13 Bulgarian 10.06
14 Orcadian 10.43
15 English 10.46
16 North_German 11.31
17 Scottish 11.92
18 Montenegrin 11.99
19 Norwegian 13.11
20 Italian 14.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% Swedish + 23.5% Assyrian @ 1.32
2 85.3% Slovenian + 14.7% Assyrian @ 1.53
3 59.7% Greek_Thessaly + 40.3% Lithuanian @ 1.58
4 85.9% Slovenian + 14.1% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.59
5 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Belarusian @ 1.62
6 53% Greek_Central + 47% Belarusian @ 1.63
7 87.8% Hungarian + 12.2% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.67
8 56.9% Greek_Central + 43.1% Lithuanian @ 1.69
9 76.5% Swedish + 23.5% Armenian @ 1.71
10 85.8% Austrian + 14.2% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.77
11 85.4% Slovenian + 14.6% Armenian @ 1.78
12 91.2% Croatian + 8.8% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.78
13 90.9% Croatian + 9.1% Assyrian @ 1.8
14 87.3% Hungarian + 12.7% Assyrian @ 1.8
15 85.3% Austrian + 14.7% Armenian @ 1.81
16 81.1% North_German + 18.9% Assyrian @ 1.85
17 77.4% Swedish + 22.6% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.85
18 80.6% Croatian + 19.4% Greek_Central @ 1.87
19 84.4% Slovenian + 15.6% Cypriot @ 1.88
20 87.4% Hungarian + 12.6% Armenian @ 1.89

Eurogenes K36

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 3.86 Pct
Basque 1.24 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.79 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.44 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 19.59 Pct
East_Med 3.00 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.91 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.64 Pct
French 2.35 Pct
Iberian 5.32 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.10 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.98 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 3.47 Pct
North_Caucasian 7.30 Pct
North_Sea 7.35 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.63 Pct

[Dick]

Not even similar to Bulgarians

[CommonSense]

Not even similar to Bulgarians

Like the vast majority of Serbs from every region. Even the PCA made by Anđelko, who's a Croat, proves that.

[Dick]

Like the vast majority of Serbs from every region. Even the PCA made by Anđelko, who's a Croat, proves that.

Here's my Dodecad k12 oracle

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.3% German (Dodecad) + 34.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 0.85
2 64.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 35.6% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.01
3 64.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 35.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.02
4 50.4% Swedish (Dodecad) + 49.6% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.04
5 64.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 35.6% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.11
6 77.4% German (Dodecad) + 22.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.11
7 61.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 38.9% English (Dodecad) @ 1.14
8 63.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 36.5% British (Dodecad) @ 1.17
9 60.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.18
10 60.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.19
11 63.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 36.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.25
12 62.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.3
13 58.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 41.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.34
14 55.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 44.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.34
15 63.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 36.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.45
16 67.1% Romanians (Behar) + 32.9% British (Dodecad) @ 1.47
17 67.9% Romanians (Behar) + 32.1% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.48
18 68.1% Romanians (Behar) + 31.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.51
19 67.4% Romanians (Behar) + 32.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.54
20 64.4% Romanians (Behar) + 35.6% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.57

[CommonSense]

https://i.imgur.com/xf7wqaI.png

https://i.imgur.com/wN4AGS1.png

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Thanks for posting, nice results. Every Slavonian result is valuable because they're rare

[Ford]

I was expecting more nothern results to be honest.

[Pribislav]

I was expecting more nothern results to be honest.

Maybe he is Montenegrin admixed. :)

[Ayetooey]

Just to add to this. Red block is a Dalmatian Serb with a rare Y dna; he is from coastal Zadar region.

https://i.imgur.com/e5df2X3.jpg

[Pribislav]

Just to add to this. Red block is a Dalmatian Serb with a rare Y dna; he is from coastal Zadar region.

https://i.imgur.com/e5df2X3.jpg

Which y dna?

[Ayetooey]

Which y dna?

Something J, I saw the Serb dna project talking about it, it came from Italy and his Y dna matches Italians. I'll rep you his surname.

He isn't a million miles away from Zadar Croat I posted before; Zadar in general seems to be east shifted.

[Pribislav]

Something J, I saw the Serb dna project talking about it, it came from Italy and his Y dna matches Italians. I'll rep you his surname.

He isn't a million miles away from Zadar Croat I posted before; Zadar in general seems to be east shifted.

You cousin from Knin (Polača) ploting western from Serbian average.

[Vožd]

...

[Kamal900]

For a Serb, she scores good amount of east-Med genetic component in comparison to other Slavs.

[Ayetooey]

You cousin from Knin (Polača) ploting western from Serbian average.

That guy isn't from Knin, he's from some village near sibenik coast, he's like a 4th cousin not a close relative. I haven't seen PCA from Knin yet.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Maybe he is Montenegrin admixed. :)

You should be banned for trolling.

[Pribislav]

Many Slavonians have Bosnian/Herzegovian and even Dalmatian origin.

Ford (Bosnian Serb), Dušan (Lika Serb) and Serb from Banija whose results I posted here ploting more northern than this Slavonian Serb.

I don't know for Ford, Dušan and Banija Serb has further Herzegovinian origin.

[Pribislav]

You should be banned for trolling.

Montenegrins are everywhere around us mate, visible or hidden.

[Maks Luburic]

You should be banned for trolling.

They can´t ban him. What else should he do all day? :icon12:

He won´t rest until he has proved that every single human is descent of Srbić and his wife Montenegrina.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

They can´t ban him. What else should he do all day? :icon12:

He won´t rest until he has proved that every single human is descent of Srbić and his wife Montenegrina.

Ahahaha good one mate :thumb001:

[Pribislav]

They can´t ban him. What else should he do all day? :icon12:

He won´t rest until he has proved that every single human is descent of Srbić and his wife Montenegrina.

Fuck of retarded imbecile!

Bosniak imigrant in Germany play big Croatian nationalist. :picard1:

[Dick]

Montenegrins are everywhere around us mate, visible or hidden.

https://i.imgur.com/bbZwBbb.gif

[Pribislav]

https://i.imgur.com/bbZwBbb.gif

I don't like them for the various reasons.

[Maks Luburic]

Fuck of retarded imbecile!

Bosniak imigrant in Germany play big Croatian nationalist. :picard1:

Serbian immigrant plays big čedo in Bosnia.

[Kamal900]

https://i.imgur.com/bbZwBbb.gif

It's hard to be Black these days..I know, man.

[Ford]

Ford (Bosnian Serb), Dušan (Lika Serb) and Serb from Banija whose results I posted here ploting more northern than this Slavonian Serb.

I don't know for Ford, Dušan and Banija Serb has further Herzegovinian origin.

I'm 1/16th Herzegovinian.

[Pribislav]

Serbian immigrant plays big čedo in Bosnia.

Unlike you I am born as Serb and all my ancestors were Serbs. You changed religion/nation and spit on many generations of your ancestors.

[Maks Luburic]

I'm 1/16th Herzegovinian.

So it´s more like a closer origin then a further?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Unlike you I am born as Serb and all my ancestors were Serbs. You changed religion/nation and spit on many generations of your ancestors.

He fixed the wrong they did in the past. Islam was brought to Croats by fire and sword and you should not worry about our nation.
You are simply angry because he refuse Serbian lies about predominant origin of ''Bosniaks''

[Leto]

Unlike you I am born as Serb and all my ancestors were Serbs. You changed religion/nation and spit on many generations of your ancestors.
Wait, don't you support de-Islamization of the Bosniaks? I certainly would in your place. If Bosniensis finally leaves Islam, he will be a Serb to me.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Wait, don't you support de-Islamization of the Bosniaks? I certainly would in your place. If Bosniensis finally leaves Islam, he will be a Serb to me.

He does, but only if they declare as Serbs :laugh:

[Bosniensis]

Unlike you I am born as Serb and all my ancestors were Serbs. You changed religion/nation and spit on many generations of your ancestors.

You are jealous he choose Pope instead Irinej and Šešelj xD

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You are jealous he choose Pope instead Irinej and Šešelj xD

Exactly...

[Maks Luburic]

Unlike you I am born as Serb and all my ancestors were Serbs. You changed religion/nation and spit on many generations of your ancestors.

I doesn´t "spit" on them. The convertion to Islam was at the time necessary to survive the Ottoman time without harm. You know that the ones who refused in "Turkish Croatia" to convert got usually killed by them. Nowdays the Ottomans are gone and there is no reason anymore to have a religion which doesn´t fit into Europe and which I can not and do not identify with. I can´t chance the past, the only thing I can do is to correct that historical accident and return to my Catholic roots, what I have done.

[Pribislav]

He fixed the wrong they did in the past. Islam was brought to Croats by fire and sword and you should not worry about our nation.
You are simply angry because he refuse Serbian lies about predominant origin of ''Bosniaks''

Dude, Bosniaks are Bosniaks today. They like Turks and Arabs much more than Serbs and Croatians and that will never change.

[Papastratosels26]

Nice

[Leto]

Dude, Bosniaks are Bosniaks today. They like Turks and Arabs much more than Serbs and Croatians and that will never change.
Even if they look Baltoid like you? Not wogs like Sead Kolašinac who in my opinion doesn't look white. If he is white, then most Turks are too just going by looks
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Arsenal-News-Sead-Kolasinac-Arsene-Wenger-1095459.jpg

[Maks Luburic]

Dude, Bosniaks are Bosniaks today. They like Turks and Arabs much more than Serbs and Croatians and that will never change.

Lol.

I like Turks and Arabs? Are you serious with that? I have with no others more clash then with those two groups. I have even recieved death threats from some of them after my conversion. My name is already on some death-lists in the German Salafists scene, I am one who gets killed at fist if they get any sort of power.

[Ford]

So it´s more like a closer origin then a further?

Yes, my great great grandmother was from Čapljina.

[Leto]

Lol.

I like Turks and Arabs? Are you serious with that? I have with no others more clash then with those two groups. I have even recieved death threats from some of them after my conversion. My name is already on some death-lists in the German Salafists scene, I am one who gets killed at fist if they get any sort of power.
How the fuck can those scumbags possibly track every single person of Muslim background in a country of 80 million?

[Dick]

How the fuck can those scumbags possibly track every single person of Muslim background in a country of 80 million?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mgc.gif

[Pribislav]

Even if they look Baltoid like you? Not wogs like Sead Kolašinac who in my opinion doesn't look white. If he is white, then most Turks are too just going by looks
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Arsenal-News-Sead-Kolasinac-Arsene-Wenger-1095459.jpg

Sead Kolašinac is Sandžakian.

Sandžakian shot putter with same surname - Asmir Kolašinac (very Turkish looks)
http://www.atastars.rs/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/asmir-kolasinac.jpg

Kolašinac surname indicate on origin from Kolašin in Montenegro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolašin

[Maks Luburic]

How the fuck can those scumbags possibly track every single person of Muslim background in a country of 80 million?

Some of my former middle school "mates" (same grade) who failed to get a job after their graduation slipped off into that scene. They heared about it (I am not living in a big town).

[IncelSlayer]

Wait, don't you support de-Islamization of the Bosniaks? I certainly would in your place. If Bosniensis finally leaves Islam, he will be a Serb to me.

De-Islamization of muslim europeans is good but they can't go back identifying as the ethnic group they once were part of, its not as simple as that.
For me you are part of a country if you raise the sword to defend it, Bosniensis gotta join the army too after he converts and proclaims in front of a crowd that his ancestors were cowards and that he renegates them.

[Ayetooey]

Two Dalmatian Croat matches I have. Red is from Vodice, Zadar. Green is from Imotski.

https://i.imgur.com/SmTYqEK.jpg

[Leto]

Sead Kolašinac is Sandžakian.

Sandžakian shot putter with same surname - Asmir Kolašinac (very Turkish looks)
http://www.atastars.rs/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/asmir-kolasinac.jpg

Kolašinac surname indicate on origin from Kolašin in Montenegro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolašin
Extremely woggy. In Russian-speaking countries he would be considered "black-assed" (černožopy) :D

[Pribislav]

Lol.

I like Turks and Arabs? Are you serious with that? I have with no others more clash then with those two groups. I have even recieved death threats from some of them after my conversion. My name is already on some death-lists in the German Salafists scene, I am one who gets killed at fist if they get any sort of power.

You converted in Croatian nation and you are not Bosniak/Muslim anymore.

I talking about declared Bosniaks of Muslim religion (vast majority like Turks and Arabs more than Serbs and Croatians).

[Ford]

De-Islamization of muslim europeans is good but they can't go back identifying as the ethnic group they once were part of, its not as simple as that.
For me you are part of a country if you raise the sword to defend it, Bosniensis gotta join the army too after he converts and proclaims in front of a crowd that his ancestors were cowards and that he renegates them.

The Bosniak nation will never convert to Christianity on any larger scale and it would honestly not make too much of a difference even if they did.

[Maks Luburic]

You converted in Croatian nation and you are not Bosniak/Muslim anymore.

I talking about declared Bosniaks of Muslim religion (vast majority like Turks and Arabs more than Serbs and Croatians).

Jepp. And that´s one of the main points of my decision. I don´t want to get connected in any way to those modern Bosnian Muslim citizens. They are a complete disgrace.

"vast majority like Turks and Arabs more than Serbs and Croatians"

That´s one of many reasons I simply couldn´t stick with them anymore.

[CommonSense]

Ford (Bosnian Serb), Dušan (Lika Serb) and Serb from Banija whose results I posted here ploting more northern than this Slavonian Serb.

I don't know for Ford, Dušan and Banija Serb has further Herzegovinian origin.

Dalmatians I have on my PCA and the two men Ayetooey found are all very close to the Serbian dot on the PCA and aren't as northern as Ford and Dušan. Neither is that guy from Glamoč, for example. Results vary more from individual to individual than from region to region, it seems.


For a Serb, she scores good amount of east-Med genetic component in comparison to other Slavs.

All Serbs do. On the K13 spreadshit the average East Med score for Serbs is 15.63, but for Bulgarians it is 20.12, so we can see a gradual increase as one moves further to the southeast.

[Leto]

The Bosniak nation will never convert to Christianity on any larger scale and it would honestly not make too much of a difference even if they did.
I think Bosniakness is sort of a negative identity i.e. based on the opposition to something, not being for something. Reminds me of nationalism in the former Soviet Union, in particular Ukraine where much of the concept revolves around being non-Russian and anti-Russian. I may be wrong about Bosnia though, however I still don't like them because of Islam :p

[Dick]

Dalmatians I have on my PCA and the two men Ayetooey found are all very close to the Serbian dot on the PCA and aren't as northern as Ford and Dušan. Neither is that guy from Glamoč, for example. Results vary more from individual to individual than from region to region, it seems.



All Serbs do. On the K13 spreadshit the average East Med score for Serbs is 15.63, but for Bulgarians it is 20.12, so we can see a gradual increase as one moves further to the southeast.

Svi smo mi isti ali smo za kurac

[CommonSense]

Two Dalmatian Croat matches I have. Red is from Vodice, Zadar. Green is from Imotski.

https://i.imgur.com/SmTYqEK.jpg

Zadar really does seem to be the most southern-plotting city as Nato claimed. I wonder what makes their ancestry so different.

[Pribislav]

Extremely woggy. In Russian-speaking countries he would be considered "black-assed" (černožopy) :D

His looks is usul among Sandžakian Muslims.

Where Sandžakian "Bosniak" Elzan Bibić can fit? Armenian,Chechen? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elzan_Bibić
http://zerobetportal.com/uploads/2018/12/96b807d2.jpg

[Ayetooey]

Zadar really does seem to be the most southern-plotting city as Nato claimed. I wonder what makes their ancestry so different.

A lot of people put it down to North Italian but I don't believe that, look at the Istrian Croat who came here before who was 1/4th Italian he had an extreme west shift. This Zadar Croat scores minor North African and south-east Asian. Two Zadar Serbs posted before both had close to 20% east med. Seems across the board to be woggier there.

[Leto]

His looks is usul among Sandžakian Muslims.

Where Sandžakian "Bosniak" Elzan Bibić can fit? Armenian,Chechen? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elzan_Bibić
http://zerobetportal.com/uploads/2018/12/96b807d2.jpg
This guy doesn't look like either of them to me. But quite swarthy too.

[Dick]

A lot of people put it down to North Italian but I don't believe that, look at the Istrian Croat who came here before who was 1/4th Italian he had an extreme west shift. This Zadar Croat scores minor North African and south-east Asian. Two Zadar Serbs posted before both had close to 20% east med. Seems across the board to be woggier there.

maybe robocuck would know why.

[CommonSense]

His looks is usul among Sandžakian Muslims.

Where Sandžakian "Bosniak" Elzan Bibić can fit? Armenian,Chechen? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elzan_Bibić
http://zerobetportal.com/uploads/2018/12/96b807d2.jpg

He looks like an inbred Gheg, nothing unsual.

[Pribislav]

A lot of people put it down to North Italian but I don't believe that, look at the Istrian Croat who came here before who was 1/4th Italian he had an extreme west shift. This Zadar Croat scores minor North African and south-east Asian. Two Zadar Serbs posted before both had close to 20% east med. Seems across the board to be woggier there.

Zadar had a lot of Italians before 1945, + there is Arbanasi (Albanians) in Zadar who were croatized.

[Ayetooey]

Zadar had a lot of Italians before 1945, + there is Arbanasi (Albanians) in Zadar who were croatized.

I don't deny possible Italian influence, but every single Zadar result I've seen, Serb or Croat, has a eastern/southern shift.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Zadar really does seem to be the most southern-plotting city as Nato claimed. I wonder what makes their ancestry so different.

It was Italian majority and many are assimilated (see Robocop) but than this guy shift southeast not towards Italy. Maybe mix of both Italian and Serbian admixture.,
And yes, Arbanasi. They are Albanians by blood but completely assimilated into Croatian nation.

[Pribislav]

I don't deny possible Italian influence, but every single Zadar result I've seen, Serb or Croat, has a eastern/southern shift.

There is one Serb on one Serbian forum who is from village near Zadar. He said he great-grandmother was Italian. Once he was in conflict with Croatian users which deny Croatian genocide of Italians 1945. He glorify Italians and say that everything great and beautiful in Dalmatia came from them and that Croatians stole Italian culture/heritage in Dalmatia and Istria.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

A lot of people put it down to North Italian but I don't believe that, look at the Istrian Croat who came here before who was 1/4th Italian he had an extreme west shift. This Zadar Croat scores minor North African and south-east Asian. Two Zadar Serbs posted before both had close to 20% east med. Seems across the board to be woggier there.

Jana claimed people of Zadar are swarthiest and least Slavic looking Dalmatians. If you look at Modrić and Vrsaljko, she my be right. Few people from there I met were wogs as well.
Interesting I know 2 or 3 very blond guys from Dubrovnik, one is uber Nordic.

[Ayetooey]

It was Italian majority and many are assimilated (see Robocop) but than this guy shift southeast not towards Italy. Maybe mix of both Italian and Serbian admixture.,
And yes, Arbanasi. They are Albanians by blood but completely assimilated into Croatian nation.

This guy has something weirder going on, east asian, north African, and elevated red sea. Rest of his results are normal, looks like his small elevated wog percentages take his whole average up, as the rest of his scores are normal (slightly higher west/east med but nothing extreme)

North_Atlantic 27.79 Pct
Baltic 27.67 Pct
West_Med 16.80 Pct
West_Asian 8.94 Pct
East_Med 13.22 Pct
Red_Sea 3.05 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.40 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.53 Pct
Northeast_African 0.60 Pct
Sub-Saharan

[Ayetooey]

Jana claimed people of Zadar are swarthiest and least Slavic looking Dalmatians. If you look at Modrić and Vrsaljko, she my be right. Few people from there I met were wogs as well.
Interesting I know 2 or 3 very blond guys from Dubrovnik, one is uber Nordic.

Well Imotski Croat as you can see plots quite North.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

There is one Serb on one Serbian forum who is from village near Zadar. He said he great-grandmother was Italian. Once he was in conflict with Croatian users which deny Croatian genocide of Italians 1945. He glorify Italians and say that everything great and beautiful in Dalmatia came from them and that Croatians stole Italian culture/heritage in Dalmatia and Istria.

Just stop being so fucking annoying. Expelling few Italians by communists is nothing compared to atrocities they committed in Croatia and especially Slovenia, which have much more features of ''genocide'' including concentration camps. If I was such fanatic like you, I would call Partisan dealings with Germans in Vojvodina Serbian genocide against them, and number of killed Germans is 20X of Italians (few hundred thousand).

If Italy won the war, your people would be treated as complete subhuman Slavs and especially as orthodox.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Well Imotski Croat as you can see plots quite North.

Croats from inner Dalmatia and west Herzegovina are pretty northern shifted in general (some exceptions like Insuperable)
Max Soldo is not far from Hungarians, he's from Livno

[Pribislav]

Jana claimed people of Zadar are swarthiest and least Slavic looking Dalmatians. If you look at Modrić and Vrsaljko, she my be right. Few people from there I met were wogs as well.
Interesting I know 2 or 3 very blond guys from Dubrovnik, one is uber Nordic.

Croatian guy from Molunat near Montenegro said to me that local Croatian from his area are predominantly swarthy Meds. He say there is very few light people in Molunat and around.
He is J2b1-M205 and he is inspired by Phoenicians and Greeks and claim they settled in his region. I explain to him that his haplogroup came from Vlacih tribe Kriči from Durmitor mountain.

[Dna8]

My maternal heritage comes from Montenegro.

[Roy]

Quite high Med & West Asian scored combined with a significant Baltic admixture.

[Ayetooey]

My maternal heritage comes from Montenegro.

So you are half Montenegrin half eastern Serb? That's an interesting mix.

[Roy]

Jana claimed people of Zadar are swarthiest and least Slavic looking Dalmatians. If you look at Modrić and Vrsaljko, she my be right. Few people from there I met were wogs as well.
Interesting I know 2 or 3 very blond guys from Dubrovnik, one is uber Nordic.

I know few from Omiš & Neum (Bosnia & Herzegovina) who are very light too; their parents / grandparents were also from there.

[Ayetooey]

Croats from inner Dalmatia and west Herzegovina are pretty northern shifted in general (some exceptions like Insuperable)
Max Soldo is not far from Hungarians, he's from Livno

I have a Livno Croat and a few other Skutori on my FTDNA list, sadly none of them upload to Gedmatch.

[Vožd]

So you are half Montenegrin half eastern Serb? That's an interesting mix.

There was Dinaric colonies even in far eastern Serbia, like Leskovac:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z45Aof-SvE

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Croatian guy from Molunat near Montenegro said to me that local Croatian from his area are predominantly swarthy Meds. He say there is very few light people in Molunat and around.
He is J2b1-M205 and he is inspired by Phoenicians and Greeks and claim they settled in his region. I explain to him that his haplogroup came from Vlacih tribe Kriči from Durmitor mountain.

Dubrovnik was founded by Vlachs, but there is unusually big concentration of tall Nordic types, like few water polo players from there are and guys I know irl

[Dna8]

So you are half Montenegrin half eastern Serb? That's an interesting mix.

Thanks, man

Maternal: Western Central Serbia, via Montenegro (via Herzegovina)
Paternal: Eastern Central Serbia, via Central Serbia (via Southern Central Serbia)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

My maternal heritage comes from Montenegro.

Yo are on Pribislav black list from now on. Interesting his anti-Montenegrin feelings because there was always idea Montenegrins are type of elite Serbs and better than the rest xD

[Pribislav]

Dubrovnik was founded by Vlachs, but there is unusually big concentration of tall Nordic types, like few water polo players from there are.
and it is true, idk where does it comes from

Guy from Molunat has very similar attitudes as Bosniensis. He said light Dalmatians are not native in Dalmatia, but they are Austro Hungarian leftovers. :rotfl:

I am not in contact with him anymore.

[Dna8]

And my paternal grandmother is from Eastern Central Serbia, via Sibenik, via Herzegovina

[Ayetooey]

Guy from Molunat has very similar attitudes as Bosniensis. He said light Dalmatians are not native in Dalmatia but Austro Hungarian leftovers. :rotfl:

I am not in contact with him anymore.

Did he used to post on this forum years ago? I've seen old posts from a Croat from that region, I think I know who you're talking about.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Guy from Molunat has very similar attitudes as Bosniensis. He said light Dalmatians are not native in Dalmatia but Austro Hungarian leftovers. :rotfl:

I am not in contact with him anymore.

There are more Nordics in Dalmatia than in Slavonia dude. Light Slavonians are Baltids, light Dalmatians Nordic especially younger generation.
Biggest amount of Nordics is in North Adriatic region (and Zagreb)

[Pribislav]

Did he used to post on this forum years ago? I've seen old posts from a Croat from that region, I think I know who you're talking about.

Maybe he was on this forum, I don't know.
I meet him outside of this forum.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

btw dude from Istria who posted his results registered on forum.hr and he said he is from west coast of Istria. This was majority Italian region.

Central and Eastern Istria must be radically different from him, they are pure Slavs...

[Pribislav]

There are more Nordics in Dalmatia than in Slavonia dude. Light Slavonians are Baltids, light Dalmatians Nordic especially younger generation.
Biggest amount of Nordics is in North Adriatic region (and Zagreb)

I disagree.

Light Dalmatians are mostly Norids/Norics (depigmented Dinarics).

Nordids are very rare everywhere in the Balkans. Even in cenral Europe they are pretty rare.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I disagree.

Light Dalmatians are mostly Norids (depigmented Dinarics).

Nordids are very rara everywhere in the Balkand. Even cenral Europe they are pretty rare.

Nordics are pretty common among young Croats, I see a dozen daily.
and you're wrong they are Norics, dinaroid skull shapes are almost gone from Croatian youth.

Today I saw full blown Dinaric dude who's maybe 18 years old, like 2 meter tall and with completely flat skull. This is first time I see that in last few months among young.
On the other hand I can't count how many Nordics I encounter on streets, there are many.

[Dna8]

And sorry about Before, Ayetooey, I was in the wrong.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Younger generations are much more Nordic than ever before in East-Central Europe. Especially those geeky kids with smartphones, most of those who are blond have this fucking huge alien skull shape lmao.

[Pribislav]

Younger generations are much more Nordic than ever before in East-Central Europe. Especially those geeky kids with smartphones, most of those who are blond have this fucking huge alien skull shape lmao.

In Serbia younger generation also lighter pigmented than their ancestors. I noticed that, and heard of many people.

On Serbian forum there was thread about this phenomena.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

In Serbia younger generation also lighter pigmented than their ancestors. I noticed that, and heard of many people.

On Serbian forum there was thread about this phenomena.

In Croatia most common phenotype is Gorid among young though, and it's fugly phenotype.

[Livin]

In Croatia most common phenotype is Gorid among young though, and it's fugly phenotype.

Gorids exist even here rofl..especially in northern parts.

[Pribislav]

In Croatia most common phenotype is Gorid among young though, and it's fugly phenotype.

There are many Gorids among younger generations of Serbs as well.

On thread on Serbian forum which I mentioned one girl said she is blonde and her grandparents were Med and she know many such cases.

[Dna8]

In Croatia most common phenotype is Gorid among young though, and it's fugly phenotype.

My brother's a Gorid man.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

My brother's a Gorid man.

Dude, sorry xD

[Dna8]

Dude, sorry xD

no need to apologize lol

[Pribislav]

He looks like an inbred Gheg, nothing unsual.

He is from Pešter.

"Bosniaks" from Pešter are predominantly islamized Ghegs (Malesors).

[Leto]

Guys, how is that possible that younger people would differ from older ones phenotypically? Is that a real phenomenon or subjective?