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Kaspias
03-12-2019, 03:47 PM
She is from a village in Stara Zagora which is close to Shipka, Balkan Mountains. Literally every Balkan Turk from Balkan Mountains scoring more NA than Baltic. Isn't it weird? As opposite, people from Rhodope Mountains score more Baltic less NA. I have only 15 NA..


Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 21.7
2 East_Med 19.21
3 Baltic 18.28
4 West_Asian 15.26
5 West_Med 14.13
6 Siberian 4.73
7 Red_Sea 4.15
8 South_Asian 1.27
9 Amerindian 0.58
10 East_Asian 0.54
11 Northeast_African 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.48
2 Romanian 8.7
3 Greek_Thessaly 10.06
4 Serbian 12
5 Italian_Abruzzo 13.31
6 Central_Greek 14.45
7 Tuscan 15.07
8 East_Sicilian 15.64
9 West_Sicilian 15.97
10 Moldavian 16.95
11 North_Italian 17.14
12 Ashkenazi 17.56
13 South_Italian 18.43
14 Hungarian 18.88
15 Croatian 20.21
16 Austrian 21.23
17 French 22.61
18 Portuguese 22.82
19 West_German 22.92
20 Sephardic_Jewish 23.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65% Italian_Abruzzo + 35% Tatar @ 2.27
2 72.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.6% Chuvash @ 2.89
3 67.7% Serbian + 32.3% Turkish @ 3.94
4 75% Italian_Abruzzo + 25% Mari @ 4.01
5 78.2% Romanian + 21.8% Turkmen @ 4.12
6 56.3% Hungarian + 43.7% Turkish @ 4.25
7 63.6% Central_Greek + 36.4% Tatar @ 4.43
8 76% Romanian + 24% Turkish @ 4.47
9 72.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.3% Erzya @ 4.53
10 78.7% Romanian + 21.3% Azeri @ 4.6
11 53.3% Austrian + 46.7% Turkish @ 4.62
12 71.1% Serbian + 28.9% Azeri @ 4.65
13 50.7% East_German + 49.3% Turkish @ 4.66
14 61.1% West_Sicilian + 38.9% Tatar @ 4.75
15 57.4% South_Italian + 42.6% Tatar @ 4.79
16 61.7% East_Sicilian + 38.3% Tatar @ 4.81
17 72.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.87
18 79.9% Bulgarian + 20.1% Turkmen @ 4.97
19 82.2% Romanian + 17.8% Iranian @ 5.05
20 82.1% Romanian + 17.9% Kurdish @ 5.1



Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 15.79
2 East_Med 15.77
3 North_Sea 14.55
4 Baltic 13.99
5 Atlantic 13.47
6 West_Med 10.35
7 Eastern_Euro 5.25
8 Red_Sea 4.48
9 Siberian 4.41
10 South_Asian 1.26
11 Amerindian 0.45
12 Northeast_African 0.13
13 Southeast_Asian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 8.31
2 Bulgarian 8.38
3 Greek_Thessaly 10.53
4 Serbian 11.86
5 Greek 12.08
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.64
7 Ashkenazi 14.09
8 Central_Greek 14.3
9 Tuscan 14.75
10 East_Sicilian 15.11
11 Moldavian 15.33
12 West_Sicilian 16.69
13 Hungarian 17.31
14 North_Italian 17.37
15 Austrian 17.54
16 Croatian 17.57
17 South_Italian 17.63
18 East_German 21.2
19 French 21.73
20 Italian_Jewish 21.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.6% Hungarian + 43.4% Turkish @ 5.16
2 77.4% Romanian + 22.6% Turkish @ 5.45
3 80.4% Romanian + 19.6% Azeri @ 5.69
4 79.8% Romanian + 20.2% Nogay @ 5.71
5 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Nogay @ 5.73
6 51.2% East_German + 48.8% Turkish @ 5.79
7 80.2% Romanian + 19.8% Turkmen @ 5.84
8 83.3% Romanian + 16.7% Iranian @ 5.92
9 83.9% Romanian + 16.1% Armenian @ 5.98
10 83.9% Romanian + 16.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.99
11 81.8% Romanian + 18.2% Kumyk @ 6.04
12 83.4% Romanian + 16.6% Kurdish @ 6.04
13 85.3% Romanian + 14.7% Ossetian @ 6.08
14 85.4% Romanian + 14.6% North_Ossetian @ 6.12
15 84.2% Romanian + 15.8% Assyrian @ 6.13
16 84.2% Romanian + 15.8% Balkar @ 6.13
17 86.5% Romanian + 13.5% Georgian @ 6.14
18 87.7% Romanian + 12.3% Abhkasian @ 6.17
19 84% Romanian + 16% Kabardin @ 6.21
20 84.4% Bulgarian + 15.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.21



PuntDNAL K15


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 35.16
2 Mediterranean 30.01
3 Caucasian 20.52
4 SW_Asian 5.81
5 Siberian 3.07
6 E_Asian 2.36
7 Horn_Of_Africa 2.2
8 Beringian 0.6
9 Oceanian 0.11
10 W_African 0.08
11 Amerindian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 7.69
2 Bulgarian 7.9
3 Macedonian 8.01
4 Montenegrin 8.39
5 Romanian 8.59
6 Bosnian 8.84
7 Greek_Central 9.12
8 Albanian 9.94
9 Italian 10.18
10 Tuscan 11.1
11 Serbian 13.21
12 Brazilian 16.98
13 Ashkenazy_Jew 17.1
14 French 17.51
15 Portuguese 17.78
16 Croatian 18.1
17 Spaniard 18.11
18 Sicilian 18.63
19 South_German 19.16
20 Utahn_White 19.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80% Greek_Thessaly + 20% Bashkir @ 2.13
2 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% Nogai @ 2.16
3 81.7% Greek_Thessaly + 18.3% Chuvash @ 2.17
4 78.8% Greek_Central + 21.2% Chuvash @ 2.28
5 76.7% Romanian + 23.3% Nogai @ 2.36
6 51.9% Cypriot + 48.1% Karelian @ 2.51
7 77.2% Montenegrin + 22.8% Nogai @ 2.54
8 81% Bulgarian + 19% Turkmen @ 2.75
9 78.3% Macedonian + 21.7% Nogai @ 2.77
10 79.6% Romanian + 20.4% Turkmen @ 2.81
11 80.9% Macedonian + 19.1% Turkmen @ 2.87
12 51.4% Cypriot + 48.6% Russian @ 2.94
13 80.3% Montenegrin + 19.7% Turkmen @ 3.24
14 52.9% Cypriot + 47.1% Finnish @ 3.38
15 82.9% Macedonian + 17.1% Azerbaijani @ 3.48
16 82.3% Macedonian + 17.7% Turk_Istanbul @ 3.56
17 75.7% Tuscan + 24.3% Chuvash @ 3.57
18 80% Macedonian + 20% Turk_Kayseri @ 3.58
19 77.9% Greek_Central + 22.1% Bashkir @ 3.59
20 83.6% Macedonian + 16.4% Iranian @ 3.62




MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.8
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 24.04
3 European_Early_Farmers 17.69
4 South_Central_Asian 6.22
5 Near_East 5.5
6 Tungus-Altaic 3.26
7 East_Siberian 2.79
8 North_African 2.3
9 Arctic 1.64
10 Melano_Polynesian 1.05
11 Archaic_Human 0.53
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.15
13 Austronesian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian ( ) 5.15
2 Macedonian ( ) 5.62
3 Montenegrian ( ) 5.85
4 Serb_BH ( ) 6.92
5 Bosnian ( ) 7.17
6 Croat ( ) 7.18
7 Croat_BH ( ) 7.51
8 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.56
9 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 8.52
10 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 8.61
11 Romanian ( ) 9.07
12 Greek_Northwest ( ) 9.3
13 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 9.57
14 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 9.6
15 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 9.87
16 Gagauz ( ) 10.06
17 Sicilian_West ( ) 10.19
18 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 10.41
19 Kosovar ( ) 10.8
20 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 11.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.3% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 23.7% Crimean_Tatar_Step ( ) @ 3.48
2 80.9% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 19.1% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 3.49
3 75.2% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 24.8% Crimean_Tatar_Step ( ) @ 3.51
4 76.3% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 23.7% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.56
5 54.1% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 45.9% Turk_Balikesir ( ) @ 3.58
6 62.5% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 37.5% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 3.6
7 77.6% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 22.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 3.6
8 70.6% Montenegrian ( ) + 29.4% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 3.61
9 71.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 28.1% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.61
10 63.1% Montenegrian ( ) + 36.9% Turk_Balikesir ( ) @ 3.67
11 81.4% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 18.6% Uzbek ( ) @ 3.72
12 73.7% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 26.3% Crimean_Tatar_Step ( ) @ 3.72
13 59% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) + 41% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 3.75
14 89.4% Bulgarian ( ) + 10.6% Crimean_Tatar_Step ( ) @ 3.76
15 90.1% Bulgarian ( ) + 9.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 3.79
16 76.6% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 23.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 3.79
17 60.9% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) + 39.1% Slovenian ( ) @ 3.8
18 95.8% Bulgarian ( ) + 4.2% Yakut ( ) @ 3.8
19 95.9% Bulgarian ( ) + 4.1% Yakut_Anabarsky_ulus ( ) @ 3.82
20 75.3% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 24.7% Tatar_Lithuania ( ) @ 3.82



MDLP K16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.89
2 Neolithic 22.86
3 NorthEastEuropean 15.48
4 Steppe 14.87
5 Siberian 4.52
6 NearEast 3.5
7 Indian 2.47
8 NorthAfrican 1.4
9 Oceanic 1.01
10 Arctic 1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 4.67
2 Romanian (Romania) 5.24
3 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 6.44
4 Greek (Peloponnes) 6.55
5 Greek (Greece) 6.61
6 Kosovar (Kosovo) 6.77
7 Albanian (Albania) 6.94
8 Romanian (Gorj) 7.01
9 Greek (Thessaloniki) 7.04
10 Macedonian (Macedonia) 7.07
11 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 7.25
12 Greek (Macedonia) 7.54
13 Romanian (Apuseni) 8.11
14 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 8.45
15 Italian (Abruzzo) 8.58
16 Italian (NorthIitaly) 8.77
17 Italian (Friul) 9.05
18 Moldavian (Molodva) 9.09
19 Serbian (Serbia) 9.41
20 Swiss (Switzerland) 10.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.5% Greek (Greece) + 19.5% Udmurd (Udmurtia) @ 1.99
2 68.6% Greek (Athens) + 31.4% Komi (Komi_Republic) @ 2.17
3 79.8% Albanian (Albania) + 20.2% Udmurd (Udmurtia) @ 2.27
4 56.4% Turk (Turkey) + 43.6% Welsh (Wales) @ 2.33
5 62.4% Romanian (Apuseni) + 37.6% Turk (Turkey) @ 2.36
6 54.1% Turk (Turkey) + 45.9% French (EastFrance) @ 2.36
7 81.9% Greek (Greece) + 18.1% Mari (Mari_El) @ 2.43
8 56.6% Turk (Turkey) + 43.4% German (Germany) @ 2.63
9 82.1% Greek (Greece) + 17.9% Chuvash (Chuvashia) @ 2.63
10 88.9% Greek (Greece) + 11.1% Mansi (Khanty–Mansi) @ 2.63
11 70.3% Greek (Athens) + 29.7% Russian (NorthRussia) @ 2.66
12 65.3% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 34.7% Turk (Balikesir) @ 2.68
13 63.6% Greek (Athens) + 36.4% Kryashen (Bashkortostan) @ 2.68
14 67.3% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 32.7% Turk (Aydin) @ 2.69
15 88.5% Greek (Greece) + 11.5% Khanty (Khanty–Mansi) @ 2.7
16 64.4% Greek (Athens) + 35.6% Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) @ 2.74
17 61.6% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 38.4% Turk (Turkey) @ 2.75
18 75.4% Greek (Athens) + 24.6% Saami (Finnmark) @ 2.76
19 59.7% Moldavian (Molodva) + 40.3% Turk (Turkey) @ 2.8
20 83.2% Greek (Greece) + 16.8% Bashkir (Akyar) @ 2.83



Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 28.31
2 Caucasus 27.92
3 Atlantic_Med 21.63
4 Southwest_Asian 7.43
5 Gedrosia 6.78
6 Siberian 4.88
7 East_Asian 1.4
8 Northwest_African 1.21
9 South_Asian 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.92
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.93
3 Romanians (Behar) 9.96
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.79
5 Greek (Dodecad) 14.29
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.5
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.58
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.88
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.21
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.67
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.03
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 20.11
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.14
14 Hungarians (Behar) 22.77
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.95
16 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.55
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.19
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 26
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 26.77
20 German (Dodecad) 27.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 3.61
2 71.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 28.1% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 3.68
3 64.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 3.96
4 65.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.3
5 77.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 22.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.46
6 66.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.7
7 65.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.78
8 53.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.9
9 60% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 40% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.9
10 80.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 19.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.97
11 78.3% Romanians (Behar) + 21.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.13
12 66.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 33.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.18
13 55.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 44.9% Turks (Behar) @ 5.21
14 59.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.21
15 79.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.29
16 51.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 48.4% German (Dodecad) @ 5.3
17 61.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 38.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.3
18 92.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 7.4% Yakut (HGDP) @ 5.3
19 83.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.31
20 86.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.33




Eurogenes K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.49 Pct
Armenian 6.20 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.16 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 9.02 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.48 Pct
East_Med 1.30 Pct
Eastern_Euro 4.42 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.13 Pct
French 2.42 Pct
Iberian 4.77 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.01 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 8.78 Pct
North_African 0.86 Pct
North_Atlantic 4.97 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.69 Pct
North_Sea 2.06 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 4.54 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.99 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.53 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.62 Pct
West_Med 2.56 Pct

Kaspias
03-12-2019, 03:49 PM
Another Balkan Turk from Balkan Mountains. NA vs Baltic...


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 21.09
2 West_Asian 20.38
3 East_Med 17.83
4 Baltic 14.62
5 West_Med 14.57
6 Siberian 3.96
7 East_Asian 2.18
8 Red_Sea 2.07
9 South_Asian 1.55
10 Oceanian 1.13
11 Northeast_African 0.35
12 Amerindian 0.24
13 Sub-Saharan 0.03

Thracian
03-12-2019, 03:58 PM
NA must be related with native ancestry. As far as I see, many ancient samples from Anatolia and Balkan( just Iron Age Balkan) have high amount of NA.

Kaspias
03-12-2019, 04:04 PM
NA must be related with native ancestry. As far as I see, many ancient samples from Anatolia and Balkan( just Iron Age Balkan) have high amount of NA.

Hmm.. It is clear natives had so much NA but i wouldn't connect modern admixture to the such an ancient admixture. We need a group of people that carried that native ancestry to the modern day and it is not Bulgarians. Bulgarian's also had significant amount of NA but they score more Baltic. (13-23 NA Range / 18-30 Baltic Range) But on these samples:

1 North_Atlantic 21.7
3 Baltic 18.28

1 North_Atlantic 21.09
4 Baltic 14.62

It seems very weird to me.

Perhaps Balkan Mountains were Vlach settlement and Turks mixed with them instead of Bulgarians?

karakartal
03-12-2019, 05:10 PM
I think Bulgarian samples have a high North Atlantic admixture.

My Eurogenes K13;
Population
North_Atlantic 15.53
Baltic 15.92
West_Med 15.36
West_Asian 17.97
East_Med 23.45
Red_Sea 4.04
South_Asian 1.20
East_Asian 0.82
Siberian 4.08
Amerindian 0.44
Oceanian 1.20
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Kaspias
03-12-2019, 05:12 PM
I think Bulgarian samples have a high North Atlantic admixture.

My Eurogenes K13;
Population
North_Atlantic 15.53
Baltic 15.92
West_Med 15.36
West_Asian 17.97
East_Med 23.45
Red_Sea 4.04
South_Asian 1.20
East_Asian 0.82
Siberian 4.08
Amerindian 0.44
Oceanian 1.20
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Kardzhali average is 14-15. Ludogorie average is around 16-17. Central Bulgaria around 20.

Kaspias
03-12-2019, 05:12 PM
I think Bulgarian samples have a high North Atlantic admixture.

My Eurogenes K13;
Population
North_Atlantic 15.53
Baltic 15.92
West_Med 15.36
West_Asian 17.97
East_Med 23.45
Red_Sea 4.04
South_Asian 1.20
East_Asian 0.82
Siberian 4.08
Amerindian 0.44
Oceanian 1.20
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Kardzhali average is 14-15. Ludogorie average is around 16-17. Central Bulgaria around 20.

karakartal
03-12-2019, 05:13 PM
Thracian is right. Look at her Eurogenes K36 Balkan admixture.

Kaspias
03-12-2019, 05:16 PM
Thracian is right. Look at her Eurogenes K36 Balkan admixture.

It means nothing

Thracian
03-13-2019, 12:03 PM
Hmm.. It is clear natives had so much NA but i wouldn't connect modern admixture to the such an ancient admixture. We need a group of people that carried that native ancestry to the modern day and it is not Bulgarians. Bulgarian's also had significant amount of NA but they score more Baltic. (13-23 NA Range / 18-30 Baltic Range) But on these samples:

1 North_Atlantic 21.7
3 Baltic 18.28

1 North_Atlantic 21.09
4 Baltic 14.62

It seems very weird to me.

Perhaps Balkan Mountains were Vlach settlement and Turks mixed with them instead of Bulgarians?

Bulgarian Thracians also score more NA, right? I just saw a few them in some PCA's. I have similar results like you shared. More NA, less Baltic. I am not sure about Vlachs. What about Greeks (Sarakachanis)? Greeks tend score more NA, less Baltic too.