Mass shooting inside Christchurch, New Zealand mosque

[Crn Volk]

https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/police-respond-to-shooting-inside-christchurch-mosque/news-story/db75a7aa031b8db068ca7c7e44c4728e


Another eyewitness claims he saw a man wearing a “helmet and glasses and a military style jacket” enter the mosque and open fire.

It’s understood about 300 people were inside for afternoon prayers when the shooting happened.

[Dna8]

WTF.. why did this shit have to happen in NZ?!

Damn it

[Ayetooey]

Rip to victims.

[Dna8]

Thank you for advising..

My mom and I are shocked (we hadn't heard)

NZ news is covering it (normal broadcasting has been replaced by the coverage)

[Dna8]

I feel sick

[Kamal900]

I guess he got inspired by the Jewish mass shooter, Baruoch Goldstein..RIP to the victims.

[Dna8]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz

[Smeagol]

Disgusting. No matter how you feel about Islam there's no justification for murdering innocent people.

[Bellbeaking]

good way to drive up sympathy for the 3rd world invaders, good job far right! you've done it again, genius!

RIP to those involved

[Smeagol]

good way to drive up sympathy for the 3rd world invaders, good job far right! you've done it again, genius!

RIP to those involved

Exactly, that's all this accomplishes.

[GreentheViper]

Fucking idiot

[Profileid]

i watched the video on facebook. he probably killed at least 20

[Nazarene]

Omg what the fuck is happening to our beautiful country

[Gangrel]

i watched the video on facebook. he probably killed at least 20

link?

[Selurong]

https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/police-respond-to-shooting-inside-christchurch-mosque/news-story/db75a7aa031b8db068ca7c7e44c4728eThat's horrid! Rest in peace.

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[Profileid]

link?

WARNING NSFW. DONT BAN ME FAGGOTS

https://files.catbox.moe/bsckol.mp4

[Dick]

WARNING NSFW. DONT BAN ME FAGGOTS



was that the remove kebab song he was playing in the car

[Crn Volk]

was that the remove kebab song he was playing in the car

I can make out the word 'Turkofagos' on his gun - 'Turk-eater' in Greek.

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/846616ea09fe064084624ff32eb9574c

[Profileid]

was that the remove kebab song he was playing in the car

it sure was. dude is/was an absolute savage. he even went back to double tap the bodies

[KingOf]

I can make out the word 'Turkofagos' on his gun - 'Turk-eater' in Greek.

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/846616ea09fe064084624ff32eb9574c

lol what the hell... don't tell me he is Greek

[Dick]

it sure was. dude is/was an absolute savage. he even went back to double tap the bodies

The video showed his face. He has the look of an ex military guy.

[Profileid]

The video showed his face. He has the look of an ex military guy.

didnt get a good look. the media is being shit about the details. check 4chan

[Crn Volk]

lol what the hell... don't tell me he is Greek

I've heard Aussie, but could be Aussie-Greek. Let's see. It's ongoing.

[Dick]

I've heard Aussie, but could be Aussie-Greek. Let's see. It's ongoing.
He looks Anglo

[Crn Volk]

He looks Anglo

Let's wait for his name.

[KingOf]

I've heard Aussie, but could be Aussie-Greek. Let's see. It's ongoing.

well if he happens to be Aussie-Greek i'm 99% sure he was born there and not in Greece... i will be very surprised otherwise
like that Greek-American kid few months ago that gunned down a high school

[Dick]

Let's wait for his name.

his surname ends with -ovski

[Ayetooey]

his surname ends with -ovski

Really?

[Dick]

Really?

No but crn volk hopes he Greek apparently

[Crn Volk]

his surname ends with -ovski

His surname is Tarrant. So not Greek.

Here's some more on the writing on his weapons




The weaponry is scrawled with references to ancient battles and more recent attacks against Muslims.

In one image he writes “For Rotherham, Alexandre Bissonnette, Luca Traini.”

Bissonnette was sentenced to 40 years for shooting six people dead in the 2017 shooting at a mosque in Quebec. Traini, an Italian man, is serving 12 years in prison for the shooting of six African migrants in a racially motivated attack in October last year.

On what appears to be a gun, the message “Here’s your migration compact!” is written.

The writing also cites military leaders and refers to ancient battles like the 1189 Siege of Acre and Ottoman Empire battles including the 1863 battle of Vienna and the 1877 battle of Shipka Pass.

The writing names Feliks Kazimierz Potocki, Polish noble and military leader in the late 1600s, Charles Martel, a French military leader from the 700s.

[Crn Volk]

No but crn volk hopes he Greek apparently

Nope. Just found the Greek reference interesting. Anyway read my post above about the references on his gun.

[Dna8]

@ Profilied

Remove that fucking video

[Profileid]

His name is Brenton Tarrant

[arkas]

Scary, my family lives there in Christchurch, I am surprised there even is a Muslim community there.

I think they've confirmed 30 to be injured or dead thus far.

[Profileid]

@ Profilied

Remove that fucking video

dont watch it faggot.

[Cumansky]

his surname ends with -ovski

Booooo -1 downvote

Nah he actually one of those UK ex con Australia whiteboy, name is Brenton..

[♥ Lily ♥]

D'oh. Why is the media making false accusations of 'racism'? :confused: Islam is an abusive ideology towards proud infidels;- Islam is not a race. People can be of any colour and be a muslim convert.

I'm not going to pretend to feel sympathetic for those who follow the repulsive Islamic ideology - because I don't genuinely feel sad for them. Why should I pretend to feel remorseful... that's how I honestly feel.

https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/3111876_islamreligionofpeace_jpeg7e3d2e34528dd3b02 854eb1ee8a13dbd

[KMack]

Muslims are in NZ?

[Profileid]

D'oh. Why is the media making false accusations of 'racism'? :confused: Islam is an abusive ideology towards proud infidels;- Islam is not a race. People can be of any colour and be a muslim convert.

I'm not going to pretend to feel sympathetic for those who follow the repulsive Islamic ideology - because I don't genuinely feel sad for them. Why should I pretend to feel remorseful... that's how I honestly feel.



Islam is bad but I think what happened is unfortunate.

[Crn Volk]

Muslims are in NZ?

Apparently and have built lots of mosques

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/087422cb6f2163ba7fa2096e6e51c8f2?width=650

[Dna8]

dont watch it faggot.

puši mi kurac kretenčino

[KMack]

I saw the video before it got deleted. One dude tried to stop the shooter but he met allah.

[Dick]

the other song playing in the car was the British grenadiers march



https://youtu.be/PGrxHO-B2TY

[Crn Volk]

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/333284e12f75cbfd08a157664c14d04c?width=650

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/bdbaf3f51c6222055392ea467712a22a?width=650

[Dukagjini]

Rest in peace to all of the victims. This is horrid. Condolences go out to all the families of the victims.

[Rædwald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8

When this started playing on his escape attempt I almost died.

[frankhammer]

Posting on twitter days ago and no one took notice. I'm not surprised though. They were more likely watching those associated with Mosques which is a fair call but any human with a gun can kill...

http://web.archive.org/web/20190315020117/https:/twitter.com/BrentonTarrant

[Teutone]

R.I.P

To the victims

Biggest punishment for the coward that did this.

[XenophobicPrussian]

good way to drive up sympathy for the 3rd world invaders, good job far right! you've done it again, genius!

RIP to those involved
Both the far-right and far-left by far have the most stupid people of anything politics related. They attract the absolute lowest tiers of humanity, which is why despite not having third world immigration is such a common sense policy, we still don't have it. The centrists and apolitical are the smartest, which is unfortunate, given they aren't the smartest ideologies.

didnt get a good look. the media is being shit about the details. check 4chan
You ought to be ashamed of yourself. I rate inner city African Americans higher than the types of sociopaths who frequent those types of forums.

Also LOL @ Lily's random hypocritical outburst of sociopathy.

[frankhammer]

R.I.P

To the victims

Biggest punishment for the coward that did this.

Likely just prison if he survives. Supposedly on his written manifesto, he has indicated he will plead not guilty. Double whammy on the taxpayer. That and they will likely restrict weapons further. 99.999% of people with firearms don't kill humans here.

[Dick]

Posting on twitter days ago and no one took notice. I'm not surprised though. They were more likely watching those associated with Mosques which is a fair call but any human with a gun can kill...

http://web.archive.org/web/20190315020117/https:/twitter.com/BrentonTarrant

Looks like a man that's fed up with western society.

[Teutone]

Looks like a man that's fed up with western society.

That benefits everyone that he opposed.

[Kace]

The part where he shoots that random woman who is just walking on the street and takes his time walking over to her as she's screaming for help and then precedes to just shoot her in the head and run over her body was so cruel and callous. As were all these killings.

[Ranger0075]

holy shit

I just watched the mass shooting video now, dont watch dat sheit

[Dick]

That benefits everyone that he opposed.

He was pissed off. I assume he watched the beheading of the Norwegian girl in Morocco as well. Should we blame social media and the internet?

[Teutone]

He was pissed off. I assume he watched the beheading of the Norwegian girl in Morocco as well. Should we blame social media and the internet?

no we should blame him for being a subhuman that damages legit criticism towards Islamic extremism.

[Tooting Carmen]

D'oh. Why is the media making false accusations of 'racism'? :confused: Islam is an abusive ideology towards proud infidels;- Islam is not a race. People can be of any colour and be a muslim convert.

I'm not going to pretend to feel sympathetic for those who follow the repulsive Islamic ideology - because I don't genuinely feel sad for them. Why should I pretend to feel remorseful... that's how I honestly feel.

https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/3111876_islamreligionofpeace_jpeg7e3d2e34528dd3b02 854eb1ee8a13dbd

Christianity and Judaism have their violent and repulsive teachings too. Anyway, RIP to the victims of this shocking crime.

[frankhammer]

The part where he shoots that random woman who is just walking on the street and takes his time walking over to her as she's screaming for help and then precedes to just shoot her in the head and run over her body was so cruel and callous. As were all these killings.

She had a hijab on. He gunned down other random people dressed in a similar manner driving away. A man with a mission but he has done no one any favours here.

Justice will be served through the courts but it is the downstream effects that will affect everybody else here. Who knows what they might be but as mentioned, likely tightening of weapons further. Possibly ID cards no one is required to have here? There will be police and intelligence reviews asking why. This will go on for years.

[Alenka]

RIP to the victims and condolences to their loved ones. May the injured recover.

Disgusting act of terrorism. This is no way to "save muh people, muh heritage, muh race". How about simply be an upstanding member of society and be selfless enough to father some kids whom you can be a positive example for. But no, instead his legacy is taking dozens of innocent lives and rotting in jail for the rest of his life. Talk about a mentally unhinged idiot.

[Profileid]

You ought to be ashamed of yourself. I rate inner city African Americans higher than the types of sociopaths who frequent those types of forums.

Also LOL @ Lily's random hypocritical outburst of sociopathy.

It's a better source of info than the media. people there now seem to be having a crisis of conscience anyway

[Kace]

She had a hijab on. He gunned down other random people dressed in a similar manner driving away. A man with a mission but he has done no one any favours here.

Justice will be served through the courts but it is the downstream effects that will affect everybody else here. Who knows what they might be but as mentioned, likely tightening of weapons further. Possibly ID cards no one is required to have here? There will be police and intelligence reviews asking why. This will go on for years.I assumed she was Muslim, as well. Just horrific to see someone gun people down like that and then run over one. The first person perspective also made it feel like we were watching a video game. Which added another horrific element to it.

And if anything this will also make people in NZ sympathize with Muslims more and be less tolerant of criticism of Islam and Muslims.

[frankhammer]

RIP to the victims and condolences to their loved ones. May the injured recover.

Disgusting act of terrorism. This is no way to save "muh people, muh heritage, muh race". How about simply be an upstanding member of society and be selfless enough to father some kids whom you can be a positive example for. But no, instead his legacy is taking dozens of innocent lives and rotting in jail for the rest of his life. Talk about a mentally unhinged retard.

This is how real New Zealanders here live.


I assumed she was Muslim, as well. Just horrific to see someone gun people down like that and then run over one. The first person perspective also made it feel like we were watching a video game. Which added another horrific element to it.

And if anything this will also make people in NZ sympathize with Muslims more and be less tolerant of criticism of Islam and Muslims.

I found the first person aspect of this act did the opposite. Music was playing, the guy returned to the hall to reload etc. It could have been a game. Maybe there will be changes to games or ratings and censorship in the future too. :dunno:

I doubt it will make people any more tolerant. Most here are already very tolerant. People will continue to criticise that which is wrong. This was an act of an unhinged man, nothing more.

[Kace]

I found the first person aspect of this act did the opposite. Music was playing, the guy returned to the hall to reload etc. It could have been a game. Maybe there will be changes to games or ratings and censorship in the future too. :dunno:That's what I found so disturbing about it, it made everything seem so casual.

[Mortimer]

Thats horrific. RIP to the victims

[Crn Volk]

4 have been arrested. They also had car bombs which have been diffused. So far 30 dead.

[Dick]

4 have been arrested. They also had car bombs which have been diffused. So far 30 dead.

Was it more than just one mosque shooting?

[Crn Volk]

Was it more than just one mosque shooting?

2 mosques

[ModernMaskil]

Very sad. Makes me feel gross. RIP.

[Peterski]

2 mosques

Just one attacker could not do that because targets are far apart from each other, attacks were probably carried out by an organized group:

https://i.imgur.com/ZIvpmfF.png

[Selurong]

I can make out the word 'Turkofagos' on his gun - 'Turk-eater' in Greek.

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/846616ea09fe064084624ff32eb9574c

This really makes me hard... I want to kill some Jihadists so badly since my best friend's teacher who inspired him to teach himself, got killed in the bombing of the Jolo Cathedral...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Jolo_Cathedral_bombings

I have family and primos who are members of the anti-Muslim paramilitary organization "Mundo Oscuro"

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1996/09/14/Christian-cult-lobs-grenade-at-city-hall/5173842673600/


But I won't dare kill innocents though.

[Selurong]

dont watch it faggot.

Hey don't do that to my hommie. He's a sensitive soul.

But I understand your toughness. You have to be hyper-fierce when you have loved ones and family killed by the stupid Jihadi scum.

[Selurong]

D'oh. Why is the media making false accusations of 'racism'? :confused: Islam is an abusive ideology towards proud infidels;- Islam is not a race. People can be of any colour and be a muslim convert.

I'm not going to pretend to feel sympathetic for those who follow the repulsive Islamic ideology - because I don't genuinely feel sad for them. Why should I pretend to feel remorseful... that's how I honestly feel.

https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/3111876_islamreligionofpeace_jpeg7e3d2e34528dd3b02 854eb1ee8a13dbd

Same thing. These Jihashits killed my best friend's mentor in the recent Jolo Cathedral Bombings. I have no sympathy for scum like Jihadists.

[Selurong]

Apparently and have built lots of mosques

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/087422cb6f2163ba7fa2096e6e51c8f2?width=650

Good! Diversity!

Now, let's demand that Saudi Arabia allows us to build churches on their soil...

Oh wait, they're too busy whipping Christians and burning bibles to ever think of that.

[Dick]

This really makes me hard... I want to kill some Jihadists so badly since my best friend's teacher who inspired him to teach himself, got killed in the bombing of the Jolo Cathedral...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Jolo_Cathedral_bombings



I don't remember seeing this on the news and this happened early this year.

[Selurong]

R.I.P

To the victims

Biggest punishment for the coward that did this.

I hate Muslims with a passion. But I agree that what he did was cowardly, killing innocents.

[Selurong]

I don't remember seeing this on the news and this happened early this year.

The mainstream media is anti-Christian, millions of Christians routinely get slaughtered in the Middle East but not a blimp from the mainstream media.

[Selurong]

Likely just prison if he survives. Supposedly on his written manifesto, he has indicated he will plead not guilty. Double whammy on the taxpayer. That and they will likely restrict weapons further. 99.999% of people with firearms don't kill humans here.

It would have been better if he went to Syria killing IShits who kill Christians but not kill some damn innocents in a Masjid.

[Profileid]

It would have been better if he went to Syria killing IShits who kill Christians but not kill some damn innocents in a Masjid.

That's what pisses me off.
There was no Muslim problem in NZ. They made up a tiny portion of the population and quietly integrated with the community. It's so cowardly to kill people who aren't armed. I would respect the guy if he shot actual terrorists

[XenophobicPrussian]

It would have been better if he went to Syria killing IShits who kill Christians but not kill some damn innocents in a Masjid.
You realize he's a white nationalist right? Had little to do with Religion.

Not likely you're going to form a strong opinion on Muslims in New Zealand anyway, they're like less than 1% of the population. Most of the minority population is native Maori(as a nationalist myself, it'd be laughable if he had a deep hatred of Maori people, should go to Europe in that case, they're the natives), and the rest are skilled Chinese migrants. Fucker would've shot up a Sikh Temple or Buddhist Temple if there was no Mosque.

[frankhammer]

That's what pisses me off.
There was no Muslim problem in NZ. They made up a tiny portion of the population and quietly integrated with the community. It's so cowardly to kill people who aren't armed. I would respect the guy if he shot actual terrorists

Indeed, he has possibly made NZers a target for foreign terrorism overseas. Whereas to date, we have not been seen as aggressors.

[Selurong]

You realize he's a white nationalist right? Had little to do with Religion.

Not likely you're going to form a strong opinion on Muslims in New Zealand anyway, they're like less than 1% of the population. Most of the minority population is native Maori(as a nationalist myself, it'd be laughable if he had a deep hatred of Maori people, should go to Europe in that case, they're the natives), and the rest are skilled Chinese migrants. Fucker would've shot up a Sikh Temple or Buddhist Temple if there was no Mosque.

Nationalism is good but unhinged fanaticism is too much. Killing innocents is a total no-no.

[Vojnik]

Terrorist scumbag.

[Vojnik]

And apparently the gunman was Australian.

[Selurong]

Indeed, he has possibly made NZers a target for foreign terrorism overseas. Whereas to date, we have not been seen as aggressors.

Then you need to arm yourselves now. We could help you defend yourselves from Jihadists, 500 years of wars against the Muslims around us equip us with a deadly Christian Martial Art.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFYLjGFKis

[RenaRyuguu]

The whole world has gone to shit

[Vojnik]

One of the gunman even live streamed it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIUMNX1wLqQ

Not sure where the original is though. They cut it on the news before he opened fire.

[FinalFlash]

Armenian writing on one of his magazines.

It reads "sarighamishi chakatamart"

https://i.ibb.co/3pp1vh5/Screenshot-20190314-233425-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/3pp1vh5)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sarikamish

It seems as though the killer wrote the names of heroes and battles of Christians fighting muslims/Turks.

[frankhammer]

It was up on live leak. We've noticed that here in NZ the local ISP's are DNS blocking sites that have the video up along with information on the shooters.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Then you need to arm yourselves now. We could help you defend yourselves from Jihadists 500 years of wars against the Muslims around us equip us with a deadly Christian Martial Art.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YFYLjGFKis

This looks so unrealistic.

I never take any type of martial art that involves defending against knives seriously because you can't legitimately train for someone with a knife. You can legitimately have someone try to punch your head off or wrestle with someone who legitimately wants to choke you out but you can't create a real scenario with someone trying to stab you with a knife.

[Vojnik]

http://web.archive.org/web/20190315020117im_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1gWbHhVYAAaVnp.jpg

There's also Cyrillic writing on here. It looks like a Serb name: "Milosh Obilich".

http://web.archive.org/web/20190315020117im_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1gVhiiU0AAJUsN.jpg

"Marko Miljanov Popovich". "Stefan Lazar".

http://web.archive.org/web/20190315020117im_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1gVLEbUkAAtboP.jpg

"Srazhenie pri kagule". "Bajo Pivljanin". "Fruzhin". "Bitka pri bulair".

Shipka pass. Battle between Russians and Bulgarians Vs the Turks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Shipka_Pass

[Bosniensis]

Can you guys imagine the punishment in afterlife this guy is gonna get?

[happycow]

damn

[Vojnik]

Man i feel sick over this news.

[Vojnik]

http://web.archive.org/web/20190315020117im_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1gWbHhVYAAaVnp.jpg

There's also Cyrillic writing on here. It looks like a Serb name: "Milosh Obilich".

Milos Obilic. Serbian knight who battled against the Ottoman invasion of Serbia:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Milo%C5%A1_Obili%C4%87%2C_by_Aleksandar_Dobri%C4%8 7%2C_1861.jpg

http://srbin.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/obili%C4%87-milo%C5%A1-324-700x467.jpg

[Dna8]

What a disturbing day.

And apparently children are among the victims.

I hope those people in critical conditions pull through.

Kudos to the NZ police.

[Bornoz]

:....

[Vojnik]

40 people dead.

[Dna8]

40 people dead.

It's almost beyond belief.

[Mjolnir]

Posting on twitter days ago and no one took notice. I'm not surprised though. They were more likely watching those associated with Mosques which is a fair call but any human with a gun can kill...

http://web.archive.org/web/20190315020117/https:/twitter.com/BrentonTarrant

One does not need a gun to murder... in the UK and Israel they are doing with blades. Explosives and neurotoxins have also been used.




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[Mjolnir]

This looks so unrealistic.

I never take any type of martial art that involves defending against knives seriously because you can't legitimately train for someone with a knife. You can legitimately have someone try to punch your head off or wrestle with someone who legitimately wants to choke you out but you can't create a real scenario with someone trying to stab you with a knife.

Ha!

That shit is deadly as all out...

You may wish to research Kali and other Phillipino Martial Arts.


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[Bornoz]

As it seems that was an attack planned on Turks spesifically.
And Turkish people may act very emotional in such situations. Especially Grey Wolwes.
We will see what's going to happen.

[Vojnik]

As it seems that was an attack planned on Turks spesifically.
And Turkish people may act very emotional in such situations. Especially Grey Wolwes.
We will see what's going to happen.

No. I think against Islam in general. The Turkish Ottoman invasion of Europe was the most recent and very bloody.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

40 dead. 4 are being held.

40 killed in New Zealand mosque shootings; 4 held (https://www.apnews.com/ce9e1d267af149dab40e3e5391254530)

That's rough. It's unfortunate to think this but places of worship may need arm security. You can't predict when such tragedies will occur.

[Vojnik]

40 dead. 4 are being held.

40 killed in New Zealand mosque shootings; 4 held (https://www.apnews.com/ce9e1d267af149dab40e3e5391254530)

That's rough. It's unfortunate to think this but places of worship may need arm security.

We need guns to defend ourselves American bro. Our tyrannical governments don't allow us.

[Dna8]

I'm gonna take the night off from TA.

Take care everyone, and see you tomorrow.

[Vojnik]

Fuck. Watching the live footage he filmed. He was playing Serbian patriotic music in the car.

[Bosniensis]

This is how Ratko Mladić and his Scorpions cleansed 8000 muslims mostly children and old in Srebrenica in 11 days (July 1995) that's about 700 people per day.

This happened in 1995... long after Hitler was dead.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

[Vojnik]

This is how Ratko Mladić and his Scorpions cleansed 8000 muslims mostly children and old in Srebrenica in 11 days (July 1995) that's about 700 people per day.

This happened in 1995... long after Hitler was dead.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre


Mladic, like this guy, also used the Turkish occupation as reason for the slaughter.

[frankhammer]

As it seems that was an attack planned on Turks spesifically.
And Turkish people may act very emotional in such situations. Especially Grey Wolwes.
We will see what's going to happen.

Don't be a retard. No one here is anti-turk. Every year they celebrate the memory of the fallen at Gallipoli and their foes of the time.

[Bosniensis]

Mladic, like this guy, also used the Turkish occupation as reason for the slaughter.

Funny isn't it. He was illiterate for not knowing that Ottomans were Balkan people not Asiatic people, there was no occupation.

He killed them just out of religious hatred by principle: "If they don't worship my God they must die"

[Vojnik]

He was playing this song in his car whilst he was driving to the mosque:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIcxqVRLEWI

[Arsen_]

I wonder what muslim denomination were attacked mosques - Shia or Sunni?

[Vojnik]

why did i watch that footage

[Bosniensis]

why did i watch that footage

What's on it? I did not watch :P

[Vojnik]

What's on it? I did not watch :P

Blood and alot of moaning. people just getting shot.

[Bornoz]

Don't be a retard. No one here is anti-turk. Every year they celebrate the memory of the fallen at Gallipoli and their foes of the time.

I am not fucking blaming you already. How can I blame Australians for such a thing?
I can't even blame this guy. It is clear that he is a fucking dumbass and it is clear internet meme culture effected him a lot.
But as you can guess when you see a fucking Brit from downunder kills other people because of hostility to your nation, it is not a normal situation.
I am a half Turk half Kurd from Istanbul. I am atheist and I am pretty much against nationalism. Despite all these characteristics of mine, I want revenge now. I want this guy to be cut into pieces. I want to hear his screams instead of screams of families that he got destroyed.

And believe me I am such a smart guy. Grey wolves are not able to think logically. We will see what's going to happen

[Vojnik]

Hope this doesn't spur on fresh islamic attacks now. :(

[Bosniensis]

Hope this doesn't spur on fresh islamic attacks now. :(

Islamic extremists from middle east might retaliate, but this all seems staged and prepared....

I mean that NZ guy seems like he has done this specifically to share hatred and animosity, even his videos are shared ONLINE...

Someone is triggering religious war on purpose.

[frankhammer]

stuff

I'm not into emotional claptrap. The law will prevail and he will be jailed. That's how it will end.

Other than that, this pillock has helped put a target on NZ'ers backs who have until today been living in ignorant tolerant bliss.

[Infinite]

Kill innocent people in "New Zealand". Want to start race war in "United States" for the sake of European people. And hate Turkish people for living in İstanbul.

Memeing and shit, eh?

Rest in peace..

Though i must say im not impressed about New Zealand police. Their respond time is too late..

[Neowarior]

>Be from the end of the world called New Zeland.

>Rage against Turks for taking Istanbul

>Play Serb music

>Go into a mosque for mass shoot out and can't kill a single Turk

[Infinite]

Btw Alt-Right, Pewdiepie , internet , 4chan , 8chan... they are fuckeeeeed.

This will cause a lot of shit.

[Gangrel]

I wonder if any of the victims were actually even Turks. I've never seen any kind of Turk, whether Sunni or Shia go to Mosque here in UK

[Infinite]

I wonder if any of the victims were actually even Turks. I've never seen any kind of Turk, whether Sunni or Shia go to Mosque here in UK

I read his manifest. He is not just hating Turks but all the "Muslim races" whatever that means. Turks have special place in his heart and his manifest tho. Because we live in west side of "bosphorus" and hagia sophia has minarets.

They should just give him to Turkey and and let him see the Hagia Sophia everyday while he is taking his well deserved punishment.

[Bornoz]

I wonder if any of the victims were actually even Turks. I've never seen any kind of Turk, whether Sunni or Shia go to Mosque here in UK

Ölenler arasında Türk yokmuş.

[frankhammer]

>Be from the end of the world called New Zeland.

>Rage against Turks for taking Istanbul

>Play Serb music

>Go into a mosque for mass shoot out and can't kill a single Turk

He's an Australian and at this stage, publishing the ethnicity of the victims probably isn't high on a list of priorities.
Saving the wounded and supporting the victims families whilst ascertaining this is just the act of one unhealthy mind is.

[KrashNick]

There's also Cyrillic writing on here. It looks like a Serb name: "Milosh Obilich".

http://web.archive.org/web/20190315020117im_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1gVhiiU0AAJUsN.jpg

"Marko Miljanov Popovich". "Stefan Lazar".



"Srazhenie pri kagule". "Bajo Pivljanin". "Fruzhin". "Bitka pri bulair".

Shipka pass. Battle between Russians and Bulgarians Vs the Turks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Shipka_Pass

Terrorist scum , sick news indeed .

Weird , I even see Gjergj Arianiti who was an Albanian lord . He led several campaigns against the Ottoman Empire.

[Hashoeva]

Rest in peace to all the victims of this horrible brutal hate crime. And this hate crime was done by someone who's european ancestors conquered and took land like new zealand and australia from its native inhabitants. And he kills other people praying in a mosque. Disgusting coward hypocrite.

[Neowarior]

He's an Australian and at this stage, publishing the ethnicity of the victims probably isn't high on a list of priorities.
Saving the wounded and supporting the victims families whilst ascertaining this is just the act of one unhealthy mind is.

That's correct but I still doubt that there were any Turks in that mosque. The guy is probally a 4chan retard.

Guess something like this has to happen for New Zealend police to take cautions to respond in time. So much for Shire fantsy it seems.

[Nazarene]

Everyone in New Zealand is shocked asf, we never thought this kind of evil would happen in our country

[Kamal900]

I wonder if any of the victims were actually even Turks. I've never seen any kind of Turk, whether Sunni or Shia go to Mosque here in UK

I know a Turkish guy, who owns a foodstuff store called Istanbul that's close to my house(yeah, it's ironic), and he told me that he doesn't go to the mosque. So I'm guessing it's really rare.

[Tigranes]

This is what happens when you take "Remove Kebab" memes too seriously.
Person who did this must have mental issues,I mean look all the references on weapons.
Some users here condemning this ,yet praising nazis on another thread...

[Hashoeva]

I live in netherlands and a lot of turks here go to mosque on fridays.

[Bandesha]

totally not terrorist activity but mass shooting by mentally ill guy

[Tigranes]

He said "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" at the beginning.
RIP to Pewdiepie.:picard2:

[Bosniensis]

totally not terrorist activity but mass shooting by mentally ill guy

No It's religious intolerance, he is religious terrorist fanatic.

[Tigranes]

He said "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" at the beginning.
RIP to Pewdiepie.:picard2:
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/you-cant-blame-pewdiepie-why-new-zealand-shooting-is-not-the-youtubers-fault-2067593.html
WTF, ppl actualy do blame Pewdiepie for that.

[Infinite]

No It's religious intolerance, he is religious terrorist fanatic.

Not religious fanatic. He is someone who believes in alt right shits. Believe muslims will outbreed white race in white lands. Eco-fascist my ass.

[Infinite]

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/you-cant-blame-pewdiepie-why-new-zealand-shooting-is-not-the-youtubers-fault-2067593.html
WTF, ppl actualy do blame Pewdiepie for that.

He is sometimes promoting racist memes in his youtube channel. I dont care and i dont blame him but people will.

[Vojnik]

No It's religious intolerance, he is religious terrorist fanatic.

Apparently he said on a ultra nationalist forum a couple days "if i die, i'll see you all in valhalla".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla

Norse Terrorism?

[Bandesha]

No It's religious intolerance, he is religious terrorist fanatic.

i know but this is what i am seeing online from apologists

[Dorian]

R.I.P but to be honest I'm indifferent/desensitized to such news.
On one hand he'd be more honorable/hero If the rest were also armed and he had died trying,no doubt he's fearless and he was ready to die,he could go and fight the isis.A thin line between monster and hero.
On the other,these same people(victims) If under the right circumstances(a muslim takeover) would gladly do the same.
So..to be continued

[Bosniensis]

Apparently he said on a ultra nationalist forum a couple days "if i die, i'll see you all in valhalla".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla

Norse Terrorism?

But general reason why he attacked is because he hates muslims, just like in Srebrenica... the only reason.

Why didn't he blow up Orthodox Syrians, Cypriots they are also invading Europe and his White Race.

Don't try to hide him behind something fake... he hates muslims no matter the color...

He started his bloody massacre with Serbian Song "Od Bihaća do Petrovca grada.... " and those Serbs were killing white muslims... so obviously.. nothing to do with Race.

[Mimi]

I read his manifest. He is not just hating Turks but all the "Muslim races" whatever that means. Turks have special place in his heart and his manifest tho. Because we live in west side of "bosphorus" and hagia sophia has minarets.

They should just give him to Turkey and and let him see the Hagia Sophia everyday while he is taking his well deserved punishment.

Turk historically means Muslim in Western world.

[Gold-Shekel]

Apparently he said on a ultra nationalist forum a couple days "if i die, i'll see you all in valhalla".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla

Norse Terrorism?

Terrorism is not just a religious thing, it's political above all hence why Communist terrorism existed in the 1980's.

[Dorian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOnSh3QlpbQ

[Albobalboa]

Lots of virtue signaling on this thread. We know you secretly love this. Just like that guy you're just afraid to tell anyone, especially face to face. You'd prefer executing some civilians to live out your deepest fantasies.

RIP to the victims. Now another insane man from the other side (muslim) will have found his moral justification for future crimes.

A discussion on internet culture is likely to follow this, it seems meme's really affect a lot of people. What an absolute idiot. Turks hold an ace card in the game of triggering, they really have WN's shook to the core just based on history alone.

[Mortimer]

I could imagine J.Ketch doing it or Smeagol. Hate is a cancer, it is terrible what happened.

[Ice]

Terrible incident.

[Smeagol]

I could imagine J.Ketch doing it or Smeagol. Hate is a cancer, it is terrible what happened.

:picard1:

I've never supported this type of act which i've made clear in this and other threads. If I did I'd be as bad as all the Muslims who committed terror attacks in Europe. The guy who did this is a coward and a psychopath who will only have stirred up sympathy for Muslims in Western countries and anti-white hatred among the Muslims themselves.

[Gold-Shekel]

A discussion on internet culture is likely to follow this, it seems meme's really affect a lot of people. What an absolute idiot. Turks hold an ace card in the game of triggering, they really have WN's shook to the core just based on history alone.

True, we often forget that what we understand as a joke can be taken on the first degree by some really stupid people, it's precisely why non-Balkan people shouldn't post Balkan memes. I mean, with all the hate there is, we know you only do that shit during times of war.


:picard1:

I've never supported this type of act which i've made clear in this and other threads. If I did I'd be as bad as all the Muslims who committed terror attacks in Europe. The guy who did this is a coward and a psychopath who will only have stirred up sympathy for Muslims in Western countries and anti-white hatred among the Muslims themselves.

That's where you're partially wrong, remember Breivik? He is an absolute hero for a lot of people even though he killed mostly white kids in the name of anti multi-culturalism. You just have to wait for the first Muslim who stabs a random person to have people start glorifying the NZ terrorists.

[Rouxinol]

What a dork.

[Smeagol]

That's where you're partially wrong, remember Breivik? He is an absolute hero for a lot of people even though he killed mostly white kids in the name of anti multi-culturalism. You just have to wait for the first Muslim who stabs a random person to have people start glorifying the NZ terrorists.

They'll always be a subset of sociopaths who glorify this kind of thing.

[Albobalboa]

True, we often forget that what we understand as a joke can be taken on the first degree by some really stupid people, it's precisely why non-Balkan people shouldn't post Balkan memes. I mean, with all the hate there is, we know you only do that shit during times of war.



Nah meme-ing needs to intensify. South slavic issues might be solved for you but for Albanians it definitely isn't. I think a lot of us are being radicalized online without even knowing it, in case a war would happen now there'd be a lot of Serbs and Albanians heading back just to die for something. Higher tensions feel good in a weird way, nothing is forgotten or forgiven.

[Gold-Shekel]

They'll always be a subset of sociopaths who glorify this kind of thing.

I wouldn't put it all on mental illness, emotion is something really powerful and people get emotional when there's a terror attack.

[Gold-Shekel]

Nah meme-ing needs to intensify. South slavic issues might be solved for you but for Albanians it definitely isn't. I think a lot of us are being radicalized online without even knowing it, in case a war would happen now there'd be a lot of Serbs and Albanians heading back just to die for something. Higher tensions feel good in a weird way, nothing is forgotten or forgiven.

That's what you think, but in reality, the dead are dead, nobody gets anything from war except politicians. The rich got richer with war, the poor died. The Balkans are backwards because of that mentality.

[Mimi]

RIP

[Thracian]

If only I wasn't a nice guy I'd genocide the Turks too for the genocide they did against Armenians.

You are not a nice guy but a fucking coward cunt. All you can do is just talking a lot.

[Lemgrant]

full video can be found here:
https://dissenter.com/comment/5c8b30ee536c0a7c076aba4d

[Tigranes]

Armenian writing on one of his magazines.

It reads "sarighamishi chakatamart"

https://i.ibb.co/3pp1vh5/Screenshot-20190314-233425-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/3pp1vh5)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sarikamish

It seems as though the killer wrote the names of heroes and battles of Christians fighting muslims/Turks.

WTF!
Good that,this one wasn't noticed by Turkish news reporters.I can't imagine how would they react to this.

[Infinite]

full video can be found here:
...

Loki will be called by international police. :hiding:

[ixi_]

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1552633133093.jpg

''manifesto''

[The Lawspeaker]

Everybody with half a brain hates Islam but to go around shooting people inside a mosque no less (!) is abject barbarism and it wouldn't surprise me if this was one of those false flags (carried out by the intelligence services or a crazy leftie) meant to garner sympathy for the Third World invaders. RIP to the victims.

[swiftie13]

full video can be found here:
https://dissenter.com/comment/5c8b30ee536c0a7c076aba4d

why did you post that ... I can't even this is really sickening I can't believe someone is capable to to these thing with cold heart .... horrible and very tragic , that gut is sick in the head obviously ... ugly ass couldn't find girlfriend because of his horrible face so he shoots all Muslims .. I can't believe it

[Longbowman]

Interesting to see TA's right-wing white men responding respectfully on this thread, with the more centrist or even leftist non-whites and women showcasing a total lack of self-awareness or emotional intelligence (by and large).

Well done to the former group.

Condolences to the victims - the callousness of this attack is in my mind far worse than anything else we've seen in recent years (vis-a-vis methodology, targets, the disrespect with which the attack was carried out, the cynical attitude of the murderers, etc).

[swiftie13]

Everybody with half a brain hates Islam but to go around shooting people inside a mosque no less (!) is abject barbarism and it wouldn't surprise me if this was one of those false flags (carried out by the intelligence services or a crazy leftie) meant to garner sympathy for the Third World invaders. RIP to the victims.

shut your fucking ass stupid idiotic most of people do these because of people like you who feed the hate agenda agaisnt all people who aren't straight white male .. and then you call the leftie bad .. if you knew a little history which is suppose you don't because you are hella stupid man I bet you read a book in your life that new Zealand doesn't belong to Europe .. you European are first degree invaders you stupid motherfucker .. I wouldn't be surprised if a person on TA does support this guy .. for show your fake stupid symapthy i woyld rather be thrid worlder than fake mother fucked as you ...

[Lemgrant]

why did you post that ... I can't even this is really sickening I can't believe someone is capable to to these thing with cold heart .... horrible and very tragic , that gut is sick in the head obviously ... ugly ass couldn't find girlfriend because of his horrible face so he shoots all Muslims .. I can't believe it

I was looking for it to see if he was really playing that Serbian "remove kebab" song in his car.
Turns out it is true.

[The Lawspeaker]

shut your fucking ass stupid idiotic most of people do these because of people like you who feed the hate agenda agaisnt all people who aren't straight white male .. and then you call the leftie bad .. if you knew a little history which is suppose you don't because you are hella stupid man I bet you read a book in your life that new Zealand doesn't belong to Europe .. you European are first degree invaders you stupid motherfucker .. I wouldn't be surprised if a person on TA does support this guy .. for show your fake stupid symapthy i woyld rather be thrid worlder than fake mother fucked as you ...

Oh shut up.

[swiftie13]

This guy is hella stupid .. now he showed the world that terrorism can actually be non Islamic and the world now has more sympathy to muslim .. he just whitened islam image .. stupid

[ixi_]

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1552633133093.jpg

''manifesto''

BUMP

[swiftie13]

Oh shut up.

I'm not shuting up stupid idiot right wing I bet you fuck your sister and support orange man what should we except from you ... but don't worry now the world has more sympathy to islam thanks to you guys

[swiftie13]

I was looking for it to see if he was really playing that Serbian "remove kebab" song in his car.
Turns out it is true.

He was also playing folk songs and stuff about Britain .. now this guy is sick I can't get over the video ... he is so ugly I bet he didn't have social life or any friend or girlfriend so he decide to feel superior by pretending to be white nationalist .. so sickening there is reason why he is not educated .. why is he even playing Serbian music what's the relation to that ? really ..

[Catarinense1998]

Very disgusting. Some syrians have lived here in my city, and they are good people. This dude probably has some mental issue.

[Catarinense1998]

He was also playing folk songs and stuff about Britain .. now this guy is sick I can't get over the video ... he is so ugly I bet he didn't have social life or any friend or girlfriend so he decide to feel superior by pretending to be white nationalist .. so sickening there is reason why he is not educated .. why is he even playing Serbian music what's the relation to that ? really ..

"He is so ugly" - why do you are using it as an argument? People do not get mad or fanatic for being ugly. Uglyness has nothing to do with this.

[The Lawspeaker]

I'm not shuting up stupid idiot right wing I bet you fuck your sister and support orange man what should we except from you ... but don't worry now the world has more sympathy to islam thanks to you guys

Piss off, leftard. It may well be a false flag. It wouldn't be the first time.

[swiftie13]

Piss off, leftard. It may well be a false flag. It wouldn't be the first time.

You can well stfu I bet you are happy now when you saw the video of him .. the right wing are so hypocrites .. I've never seen lefties as you called do something as horrible as that .. but nevermind mister just brace yourself for mayne next week when all the world see the true right wing terrorism and have sympathies with all Muslims and Muslims image now in the worst is really whitened and people they are the victims .. suck it all orange man supporter

[Hashoeva]

Everybody with half a brain hates Islam but to go around shooting people inside a mosque no less (!) is abject barbarism and it wouldn't surprise me if this was one of those false flags (carried out by the intelligence services or a crazy leftie) meant to garner sympathy for the Third World invaders. RIP to the victims.
Your an invader yourself. You dutch people invaded africa, south america, indonesia, etc and commited mass genocides like in indonesia. Filthy hypocrite. But now netherlands is invaded by those same people haha. Go cry and choke on ur hate.

[The Lawspeaker]

Your an invader yourself. You dutch people invaded africa, south america, indonesia, etc and commited mass genocides like in indonesia. Filthy hypocrite. But now netherlands is invaded by those same people haha. Go cry and choke on ur hate.

Opdonderen naar je eigen land, dan. Mijn voorouders hebben nog nooit een ander land aangevallen.

[Tigranes]

Can someone translate what's written on the top?It's written in Georgian right?
Damn!this mental retarded scum has some serious issues.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/15/10/11026786-6812729-image-a-1_1552644682084.jpg

[Dorian]

Interesting to see TA's right-wing white men responding respectfully on this thread, with the more centrist or even leftist non-whites and women showcasing a total lack of self-awareness or emotional intelligence (by and large).

Well done to the former group.

Condolences to the victims - the callousness of this attack is in my mind far worse than anything else we've seen in recent years (vis-a-vis methodology, targets, the disrespect with which the attack was carried out, the cynical attitude of the murderers, etc).

Can I ask why the thumb down?

[The Lawspeaker]

^ They could be names as all the others are names. Let me look them up.

Dmitry Senyavin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Senyavin) was a Russian admiral during the Napoleonic Wars who also saw action against the Turks
Șerban Cantacuzino (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%98erban_Cantacuzino) was a Prince of Wallachia who fought against the Turks
Edward Codrington (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Codrington) was a British admiral who took part in the Battle of Navarino against the Turks
Marco Antonio Bragadin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Antonio_Bragadin) was a Venetian lawyer and officer who also fought against the Turks.
Ernst Rüdiger von Starhemberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Rudiger_Graf_von_Starhemberg) was the Viennese governor during the Ottoman Siege of 1683.

That leads me to conclude that the others are Georgian (?) (I really can't tell the Georgian and Armenian scripts apart.. sorry) fighters against Turkish invaders ? And since these people have nothing in common except for some military action against the Turks, I would dare argue that the guy simply browsed through wikipedia to look up battles against the Turks and then checked who won them and simply adopted their names without any sense of the historical background.

[Gold-Shekel]

Oh god, I just remembered Erdogan exists... He's most likely gonna say some stupid shit and blame Germany & the Gülenists for these events.

[Catarinense1998]

Your an invader yourself. You dutch people invaded africa, south america, indonesia, etc and commited mass genocides like in indonesia. Filthy hypocrite. But now netherlands is invaded by those same people haha. Go cry and choke on ur hate.

Sorry for interrupt you crowd, but, can you blame him for all disasters that happened in the past? When you use the word "dutch people" you are saying that exist a group/colective - the dutchs, and all them are guilty. The decions that killed the a lot of africans, asians and americans (natives) were made by kings or the elites, then a farmer living in it countryside has nothing to do with these tragedies. And, if I'm not saying dumb things, the biggest part of the european population did live in rural areas during the XV-XIX centuries. Stop putting this guilty on inocent people.

[swiftie13]

"He is so ugly" - why do you are using it as an argument? People do not get mad or fanatic for being ugly. Uglyness has nothing to do with this.

I mean ugly hearted ok happy now ? I bet you are happy

[swiftie13]

Oh god, I just remembered Erdogan exists... He's most likely gonna say some stupid shit and blame Germany & the Gülenists for these events.

This guy is doing muslim a big favour now all politician are having and feeding hate from this attack and blaming Europe .. the most stupid guy ever ..

[swiftie13]

I would just spot a little thing and say to all right wing we DO NOT need your fake sympathies just leave it for yourself we all know how you actually feel ... so no thank you .. all you have been doung is feeding hate to islam and LGBT and feminsits and now you are suddenly shocked are you serious what were you expecting really ... this guy to go and give them flowers and candy ? so shut up please your hate has caused that
.

[The Lawspeaker]

Sorry for interrupt you crowd, but, can you blame him for all disasters that happened in the past? When you use the word "dutch people" you are saying that exist a group/colective - the dutchs, and all them are guilty. The decions that killed the a lot of africans, asians and americans (natives) were made by kings or the elites, then a farmer living in it countryside has nothing to do with these tragedies. And, if I'm not saying dumb things, the biggest part of the european population did live in rural areas during the XV-XIX centuries. Stop putting this guilty on inocent people.
My family would have been poor farmers or labourers. When I did my research, I actually found that there weren't too many mentions of them in either church records or anywhere else which meant that they were the nameless and not exactly persons of note. Their names wouldn't even have turned up in land domain registrars so they didn't even own their own land - they just moved from farm to farm and then to the cities looking for a place to get some bread on the table. Or, rather, potatoes as bread would have been too expensive from the late 18th to early 20th century.

It's funny how Leftards have long since forgotten about the "Sociale Quaestie" as it was called (19th century spelling) which they, frankly, had almost no hand in solving either. They just agitated the workers causing mayhem wherever they went, the real law-making process was left to Protestants, Liberals and Catholics alike who, between 1874 and the 1950s set to work in solving this crisis (only in the 1950s did the socialists start doing things just to take the credit).

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Van-willem-vincent-gogh-die-kartoffelesser-03850.jpg

Mind you, the people shown above would have been the better off poor: they still had a solid place to live. For the others ?

https://i.redd.it/pc1nss10b3nx.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Foeliedwarsstraat_Amsterdam_1900.jpg

"Waar de cholera welig tierde..."

[Catarinense1998]

My family would have been poor farmers or labourers. When I did my research, I actually found that there weren't too mentions of them in either church records or anywhere else which meant that they were the nameless and not exactly persons of note. Their names wouldn't even have turned up in land domain registrars so they didn't even own their own land - they just moved from farm to farm and then to the cities looking for a place to get some bread on the table. Or, rather, potatoes as bread would have been too expensive from the late 18th to early 20th century.

It's funny how Leftards have long since forgotten about the "Sociale Quaestie" as it was called (19th century spelling) which they, frankly, had almost no hand in solving either.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Van-willem-vincent-gogh-die-kartoffelesser-03850.jpg

Mind you, the people shown above would have been the better off poor: they still had a solid place to live. For the others ?

"Waar de cholera welig tierde..."

Good point. Usually, leftards just throw "europeans did destroy Africa, Asia", then they run away because none of them know how to develop a good chat about this topic.They do it to make white people feel bad and guilty (even if it does not have nothing to do with them). It is the leftist modus operandi. Your family is a good example about the láck of power and logic of this argument.

[The Lawspeaker]

Good point. Usually, leftards just throw "europeans did destroy Africa, Asia", then they run away because none of them know how to develop a good chat about this topic.They do it to make white people feel bad and guilty (even if it does not have nothing to do with them). It is the leftist modus operandi. Your family is a good example about the láck of power and logic of this argument.

Exactly. And this goes for .. basically 90 percent of all Dutch families today for much of the 19th century. Only by 1900 did 66 percent of male Dutch over the age of 25 had the vote ( but not the very poor because of a system known as censuskiesrecht where only those who paid an X-amount of taxes could vote) and Dutch politics, just like today, is mostly about regional matters and voting had to be made compulsory for them to vote in national elections at all. Coupled with a system of pillarisation this caused for very stable politics but the Indies wasn't even remotely on peoples' minds. As for South Africa ? The Dutch hadn't been there since 1795.

[Morena]

Multiculturalism at its finest. People would be happier and safer if they stayed in their own neck of the woods. I don't condone what happened, of course. But, it's an unfortunate side affect of multiculturalism.

[The Lawspeaker]

Multiculturalism at its finest. People would be happier and safer if they stayed in their own neck of the woods. I don't condone what happened, of course. But, it's an unfortunate side affect of multiculturalism.

I agree entirely !

[Wanderer]

This really makes me hard... I want to kill some Jihadists so badly since my best friend's teacher who inspired him to teach himself, got killed in the bombing of the Jolo Cathedral...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Jolo_Cathedral_bombings

I have family and primos who are members of the anti-Muslim paramilitary organization "Mundo Oscuro"

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1996/09/14/Christian-cult-lobs-grenade-at-city-hall/5173842673600/


But I won't dare kill innocents though.

That's not real Christianity. Jesus taught that those who live by the sword will die by the sword. Violence begets violence.

[Graham]

Hate begets hate and evil takes advantage.

Rip

[Cristiano viejo]

Karma.

[swiftie13]

Multiculturalism at its finest. People would be happier and safer if they stayed in their own neck of the woods. I don't condone what happened, of course. But, it's an unfortunate side affect of multiculturalism.

I'm sorry but multiculturalism has nothing to do with it . that guy was sick in the head ... islamphobe fed by the hate delivered for the right (wrong) wing ... he is white supremacist .... if so what are white people doung new Zealand anyways .. ? they don't belong there . so muslim .. so you say it's Muslims fault by blaming on multiculturalism ... it's like blaming food for being fat ?

[KMack]

21 pages on this and nothing on the Islamic terrorist Catholic church attack that killed 20 in the PHILIPPINES 6 weeks ago. Why?

[Catarinense1998]

I'm sorry but multiculturalism has nothing to do with it . that guy was sick in the head ... islamphobe fed by the hate delivered for the right (wrong) wing ... he is white supremacist .... if so what are white people doung new Zealand anyways .. ? they don't belong there . so muslim .. so you say it's Muslims fault by blaming on multiculturalism ... it's like blaming food for being fat ?

Are you serious? Nowadays white which live in New Zeland did born there - it is not their faults. You could blame the english that arrived there in the past, but, put this guilty on nowadays people sound very dumb. Are not you who defend multiculturalism and imigration? If, according to you, an algerian that born in France must be considered french, then whites childs which born in New Zeland must have the same right to this land as the natives ones.

Stop playing the good guy. "Atheist until Jesus take me on a date" - you only feed the hate and the prejudice. You do say all this stuff under the politically correct's veil.

[The Lawspeaker]

21 pages on this and nothing on the Islamic terrorist Catholic church attack that killed 20 in the PHILIPPINES 6 weeks ago. Why?

We both know why: because the Left wants Christians to be killed.

[swiftie13]

21 pages on this and nothing on the Islamic terrorist Catholic church attack that killed 20 in the PHILIPPINES 6 weeks ago. Why?

how about Burma genocide on muslim how many of them were killed this world is sick of people like you ! .. don't use innocent people for you agenda sickoooooooo.. did u read the title ? what was about .. why changing the subject ? huh I just realised most of you are full of hate at least sympathise or don't comment ok

[swiftie13]

Are you serious? Nowadays white which live in New Zeland did born there - it is not their faults. You could blame the english that arrived there in the past, but, put this guilty on nowadays people sound very dumb. Are not you who defend multiculturalism and imigration? If, according to you, an algerian that born in France must be considered french, then whites childs which born in New Zeland must have the same right to this land as the natives ones.

Stop playing the good guy. "Atheist until Jesus take me on a date" - you only feed the hate and the prejudice. You do say all this stuff under the politically correct's veil.

High let me say ? so Muslims kids born on new Zealand are to blame too and how about Muslims born in Europe from parents that arrived in 70s should we deport them too ?

[Catarinense1998]

Call me what you want insecure or whatever at least I have heart and a bit of sympathies unlike most of wrong wingers fuckers

Tell me, who is defending this shit? None of us. All of us are sad and bad for this atack. Our point is about your pathetic arguments.

[Teutone]

21 pages on this and nothing on the Islamic terrorist Catholic church attack that killed 20 in the PHILIPPINES 6 weeks ago. Why?

Why? Make another thread about it.

This one is about a disgusting attack, I dont need to justify or compare it with any other attack.

If I am loud when my people are attacked, I am louder if one of my people is on the same lowlife level.

[The Lawspeaker]

This really makes me hard... I want to kill some Jihadists so badly since my best friend's teacher who inspired him to teach himself, got killed in the bombing of the Jolo Cathedral...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Jolo_Cathedral_bombings

I have family and primos who are members of the anti-Muslim paramilitary organization "Mundo Oscuro"

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1996/09/14/Christian-cult-lobs-grenade-at-city-hall/5173842673600/


But I won't dare kill innocents though.

It's an un-Christian sentiment, man, but I understand where you come from. But we simply cannot and should not, allow ourselves to be taken over by such sentiments. To do so would mean that we lose our own soul.

[KMack]

how about Burma genocide on muslim how many of them were killed this world is sick of people like you ! .. don't use innocent people for you agenda sickoooooooo.. did u read the title ? what was about .. why changing the subject ? huh I just realised most of you are full of hate at least sympathise or don't comment ok

You sound like future terrorist. Are you going to kill me?

[swiftie13]

We both know why: because the Left wants Christians to be killed.

why blame it on the left ? people are being killed all over the world for their religion no matter what and you guys case if they are Muslims or Christians I still can't believe how retarded you are

[The Lawspeaker]

why blame it on the left ? people are being killed all over the world for their religion no matter what and you guys case if they are Muslims or Christians I still can't believe how retarded you are

Shut up, Quisling !

[KMack]

Why? Make another thread about it.

This one is about a disgusting attack, I dont need to justify or compare it with any other attack.

If I am loud when my people are attacked, I am louder if one of my people is on the same lowlife level.

So one group is held to a higher standard?

[The Lawspeaker]

So one group is held to a higher standard?

I understand that sentiment though: the other group are Heathen barbarians by default - unwashed and uncivilised from which we can expect such barbaric conduct. We, on the other hand, have values that completely condemn such behaviour and we ought to keep ourselves to those standards.

[Catarinense1998]

High let me say ? so Muslims kids born on new Zealand are to blame too and how about Muslims born in Europe from parents that arrived in 70s should we deport them too ?



It is not my business because I'm brazilian. I did not understand your point. Muslims kids living on Europe have nothing to do with it.

[Teutone]

So one group is held to a higher standard?

No, I personally think if we demand for the muslim world to speak out against terror, its pretty pathetic many whites are even worse and use islamic terror as excuse for going to the same lowlevel.

[swiftie13]

You sound like future terrorist. Are you going to kill me?

Ow I'm homo and atheist and feminsit so how do you feel now ? huh like dumb ? ikr ... don't worry you will get used to it

[Ayetooey]

Ow I'm homo and atheist and feminsit so how do you feel now ? huh like dumb ? ikr ... don't worry you will get used to it

You're a homosexual atheist feminist? Won't last long under the Islamic Europe you desire.

At least Conservative values will be back.

[MissMischief]

Sad news. I can’t believe this has happened in NZ. It’s so peaceful and normally left out of the news.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this causes gun reform in the country. Much like when there was a mass shooting in Australia. They nipped it in the bud quick.

[Teutone]

Ow I'm homo and atheist and feminsit so how do you feel now ? huh like dumb ? ikr ... don't worry you will get used to it

go to another thread with your bullshit

You cannot understand that you arent the victim and now demand your attention cause the only way you get attention is by being a victim?

[Mingle]

Can someone translate what's written on the top?It's written in Georgian right?
Damn!this mental retarded scum has some serious issues.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/15/10/11026786-6812729-image-a-1_1552644682084.jpg

The names in Cyrillic refer to Marko Miljanov Popović (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Miljanov) and Stefan Lazarević (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Lazarevi%C4%87). I can't read Georgian, but the Georgian ones are probably the names of some Georgian historical figures that fought Muslims.

[Dunai]

The Far Right is taking too much advantage of way too loose free speech laws in Western society. Hate speech should never fall under free speech, it should be totally eradicated from online media, simple as that. Absolutely disgusting act, sending my condolences to the poor victims. They just didn't have any chance...

[Teutone]

The names in Cyrillic refer to Marko Miljanov Popović (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Miljanov) and Stefan Lazarević (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Lazarevi%C4%87). I can't read Georgian, but the Georgian ones are probably the names of some Georgian historical figures that fought Muslims.

Someone explain him the difference between fighting armed mujahideen and unarmed civilians in 2019.

[swiftie13]

You're a homosexual atheist feminist? Won't last long under the Islamic Europe you desire.

At least Conservative values will be back.

I'm not.asking for Islamic Europe ? all I m asking is go respect victims and stop the hate on Muslims

[Teutone]

The Far Right is taking too much advantage of way too loose free speech laws in Western society. Hate speech should never fall under free speech, it should be totally eradicated from online media, simple as that. Absolutely disgusting act, sending my condolences to the poor victims. They just didn't have any chance...

Did he killed them with his words? thats a new one.

[The Lawspeaker]

You're a homosexual atheist feminist? Won't last long under the Islamic Europe you desire.

At least Conservative values will be back.

He'll be dropped from a staggering height before the day's over if they were ever to take over Europe. That's the standard Islamic practice for homosexuals.

[Catarinense1998]

Ow I'm homo and atheist and feminsit so how do you feel now ? huh like dumb ? ikr ... don't worry you will get used to it

Why do you defend islam so much then? Every people which use to pray inside a mosque consider you as a sinner and you should be killed acording to their beliefs.

[The Lawspeaker]

The Far Right is taking too much advantage of way too loose free speech laws in Western society. Hate speech should never fall under free speech, it should be totally eradicated from online media, simple as that. Absolutely disgusting act, sending my condolences to the poor victims. They just didn't have any chance...

The term hate speech can't even be properly defined and is just used as a political weapon to quash all dissent.

[Tschaikisten]

Where the fuck he have found Novak Vujosevic. 99% Serbs have never heard for him lmao.

[The Lawspeaker]

Where the fuck he have found Novak Vujosevic. 99% Serbs have never heard for him lmao.

Who is that guy ?

[KMack]

Sad news. I can’t believe this has happened in NZ. It’s so peaceful and normally left out of the news.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this causes gun reform in the country. Much like when there was a mass shooting in Australia. They nipped it in the bud quick.

That was his goal....moreover in his manifesto he stated he wanted to start a civil war in the USA over the 2nd Amendment. What are the existing gun laws like in NZ? What are the chances he acquired his weapons illegally?

[KMack]

The Far Right is taking too much advantage of way too loose free speech laws in Western society. Hate speech should never fall under free speech, it should be totally eradicated from online media, simple as that. Absolutely disgusting act, sending my condolences to the poor victims. They just didn't have any chance...

Can you define that?

[Morena]

I'm sorry but multiculturalism has nothing to do with it . that guy was sick in the head ... islamphobe fed by the hate delivered for the right (wrong) wing ... he is white supremacist .... if so what are white people doung new Zealand anyways .. ? they don't belong there . so muslim .. so you say it's Muslims fault by blaming on multiculturalism ... it's like blaming food for being fat ?

Multiculturalism causes conflict. If you want to feel safe, go back to the land of your fathers.

[Teutone]

That was his goal....moreover in his manifesto he stated he wanted to start a civil war in the USA over the 2nd Amendment. What are the existing gun laws like in NZ? What are the chances he acquired his weapons illegally?

Frankhammer who lives in NZ said they had (liberal in the actual meaning) gun laws there, and fears them to become more strict now.

[swiftie13]

Why do you defend islam so much then? Every people which use to pray inside a mosque consider you as a sinner and you should be killed acording to their beliefs.

and christians consider me as saint ? no I just sympathise about it ..I watched the video and it touched me alot .. I'm human .? the video is horrible I was so angry when I saw it and get angrier when people say it's karma? and blame it on Muslims ? really why ?

[Dunai]

Butthurt far right extremists mass down-voting my comment. Totally hit them where it hurts the worst for them. Just wanna hide your vile hatred behind good ol' free speech, and being butthurt about it when someone calling out your people's hypocrisy.

[swiftie13]

Multiculturalism causes conflict. If you want to feel safe, go back to the land of your fathers.

Ok so are you saying that American should go back to Europe and new Zealander too ?

[Profileid]

Sad news. I can’t believe this has happened in NZ. It’s so peaceful and normally left out of the news.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this causes gun reform in the country. Much like when there was a mass shooting in Australia. They nipped it in the bud quick.

There was no gun crime in Australia before the shooting. It accomplished nothing

[Tschaikisten]

Who is that guy ?

There is nothing about him on English, try with Google Translate. He killed 74 Turks on Fundina battle.

He was famous Serbian hero from Kuci (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku%C4%8Di)tribe. He even writted name of last Kuci chief, Marko Miljanov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Miljanov) and Bajo Pivljanin. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajo_Pivljanin)

https://www.in4s.net/novak-milosev-srpski-junak-s-ruskim-ordenom-za-najvece-junastvo-na-balkanu/?lang=lat

[Teutone]

About free speech, if you think this is the issue go fuck yourself you communist piece of shit.

Did he kill people by words? Would he think any other way if he wasnt able to speak about his believes? ofc not.
Free speech is a blessing and highest achievement of our civilization.

[Morena]

Ok so are you saying that American should go back to Europe and new Zealander too ?

No, because those nations were created by the Europeans who settled it. They own them by Right of Conquest.

[Teutone]

and christians consider me as saint ? no I just sympathise about it ..I watched the video and it touched me alot .. I'm human .? the video is horrible I was so angry when I saw it and get angrier when people say it's karma? and blame it on Muslims ? really why ?

Freethinker - wants to bann free speech.

[swiftie13]

I just feel sick and I can't eat or sleep after watching that video ? I m thinking of that poor women on the street
rest her soul .. it's horrible I might need help to get over it

[black hole]

Rest in peace to the victims.

Typical western world.

[Catarinense1998]

and christians consider me as saint ? no I just sympathise about it ..I watched the video and it touched me alot .. I'm human .? the video is horrible I was so angry when I saw it and get angrier when people say it's karma? and blame it on Muslims ? really why ?

I guess that you did not understand yet. But, these people that got killed used to dislike people like you. If it was you being killed for homophobia, none of them would care about you. You are not and you would never be an human to them. Yes, the video is horrible, and I'm sad like you - I never said that it is not horrible.

[MissMischief]

That was his goal....moreover in his manifesto he stated he wanted to start a civil war in the USA over the 2nd Amendment. What are the existing gun laws like in NZ? What are the chances he acquired his weapons illegally?

All I know is that New Zealand does not ban the ownership of semi-automatic military-style assault weapons (unlike Australia).

Most guns can be legally sold on the internet or through newspaper ads. Any person aged 16 or over with an entry-level firearm licence can keep any number of common rifles and shotguns without having to register them.

[The Lawspeaker]

The comments from the Left only reinforces my position that the Third World invaders should leave the country - in peace where possible (minus their criminals: we should hang them or give them long prison terms and then deport them). But the Leftists here shown me that my position that Leftists are traitors (yes.. all of them .. no exceptions to the rule !) which should be dealt with in the most brutal manner possible once the migrants are gone. Since they favour genocide on whites (their own people, no less !), I think death should be the only proper punishment.

[Longbowman]

21 pages on this and nothing on the Islamic terrorist Catholic church attack that killed 20 in the PHILIPPINES 6 weeks ago. Why?

1) No one cares about what happens in the third world
2) That is a separate event; feel free to create a thread for it if one doesn't exist here

Don't be like this. If there were a thread on, say, eulogising the victims of 9/11 you'd find it distasteful if people jumped in to say 'yeah OK but what about what America has done to the MENA!?'

[The Lawspeaker]

1) No one cares about what happens in the third world

Sadly, this is true. It wasn't even mentioned in the Dutch media.

[KMack]

All I know is that New Zealand does not ban the ownership of semi-automatic military-style assault weapons (unlike Australia).

Most guns can be legally sold on the internet or through newspaper ads. Any person aged 16 or over with an entry-level firearm licence can keep any number of common rifles and shotguns without having to register them.

Yes a license is required.

Except under the direct supervision (i.e. arms reach) of a licence holder, a person who possesses or uses firearms needs to hold a firearms licence issued by the police. Firearms licences are issued for 10 years, but can be revoked at any time if Police believe the person is no longer fit and proper to possess a firearm. Visitors to New Zealand can apply from overseas for a 1 year visitor's licence based on their existing licence in their country of residence, though frequent visitors are encouraged to apply for a 10 year licence. Licence holders who possess or use pistols or military style semi-automatic firearms, as well as collectors, require additional endorsements. Firearms dealers and their employees need an annual dealers licence for their place of business. Only licence holders can buy, sell, or exchange firearms; permits to procure are needed for restricted firearms and licence holders must have appropriate and current endorsements. Importing or exporting personally owned firearms requires additional permits, and the importer or exporter must be a current licence holder with appropriate endorsements.

To be issued with a firearms licence, the applicant must be a fit and proper person over the age of 16. They also need to have adequate secure storage for firearms, attend a safety program administered by the Mountain Safety Council, pass a written safety test, pay the requisite fee, and supply passport-standard photographs with their application. Police also individually interview the applicant and two referees, one of whom must be a close relative and the other unrelated, to determine the applicant's suitability for a license. The applicant's residence is also visited to check for appropriate storage of firearms and ammunition and to ensure any other people living there are not a security risk. Having criminal associations or a history of domestic violence almost always leads to a licence being refused. An application can be refused if the applicant has indicators of drug or alcohol abuse, criminal associations, a history of domestic violence, or a physical, mental health or disability issue that would prevent them possessing or using a firearm safely. Previous denied applications or revoked licences may also be cause for denial.

About 250,000 [1] people hold a New Zealand Firearms licence, although one in ten do not own any firearms.

A standard firearms licence allows the use of "A Category" firearms. To possess firearms of another category, one must receive an endorsement.

Each endorsement type has additional requirements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_Zealand

[MissMischief]

Ok so are you saying that American should go back to Europe and new Zealander too ?

Having read some bits of the shooter's manifesto, I've noticed that he never stops referring to people invading "European lands".

Motherfucker is from AUSTRALIA. His ancestors literally invaded, killed and subjugated an entire native population.

Then he moves to New Zealand. Another place where Europeans invaded and took over an entire native population (though somewhat more politely).

How convenient that he doesn't bring any of this up.

[user_]

Can someone translate what's written on the top?It's written in Georgian right?
Damn!this mental retarded scum has some serious issues.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/15/10/11026786-6812729-image-a-1_1552644682084.jpg


First is David Soslan-alan husband of Queen Tamara he was commanding great battles against muslim invaders.

Second is David IV, he won Didgori battle.

The Battle of Didgori was fought between the armies of the Kingdom of Georgia and the Great Seljuq Empire at the narrow place of Didgori, 40 km west of Tbilisi, on August 12, 1121. The large Muslim army, under the command of Ilghazi ibn Artuq was unable to maneuver, and suffered a devastating defeat due to King David IV of Georgia’s effective military tactics.

The battle at Didgori was the culmination of the entire Georgian-Seljuk wars, and led to the Georgians’ reconquest of Tbilisi in 1122. Soon after that David moved the capital from Kutaisi to Tbilisi. The victory at Didgori inaugurated the medieval Georgian Golden Age and is celebrated in The Georgian Chronicles as a (Georgian: ძლევაჲ საკვირველი dzlevay sak'virveli lit. the "miraculous victory"). Modern Georgians continue to remember the event as an annual September festival known as Didgoroba ("[the day] of Didgori").

[Catarinense1998]

Having read some bits of the shooter's manifesto, I've noticed that he never stops referring to people invading "European lands".

Motherfucker is from AUSTRALIA. His ancestors literally invaded, killed and subjugated an entire native population.

Then he moves to New Zealand. Another place where europeans invaded and took over an entire native population (though somewhat more politely).

How convenient that he doesn't bring any of this up.

Who are these europeans? Who sent them?

[Longbowman]

Sadly, this is true. It wasn't even mentioned in the Dutch media.

In the Central African Republic last year, Christians engaged in a bit of religious cleansing of Muslims - tens of thousands involved, at least hundreds dead. But such is the way of things in the CAR. I cannot afford to shed a tear every time someone does something barbaric there. Still, maybe we can incorporate it into the narrative of violence begetting violence. Perhaps we could trace all interreligious violence that involves Muslims back to Muhammad's first campaign against Mecca? Then we could simply blame Muslims for all of it, and gloss over atrocities like this.

[Selurong]

This looks so unrealistic.

I never take any type of martial art that involves defending against knives seriously because you can't legitimately train for someone with a knife. You can legitimately have someone try to punch your head off or wrestle with someone who legitimately wants to choke you out but you can't create a real scenario with someone trying to stab you with a knife.

Knife fights are unpredictable yes, but predicting a knife attack is not the point of the exercise. Kali Escrima trains muscle memory for a variety of scenarios.

The Israeli army, Russian Speznatz and US army uses Kali Escrima..

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/this-knife-wielding-martial-art-is-used-by-the-us-army-and-russian-spetsnaz

[Valu]

Crazy people are everywhere. There is nothing to discuss about.