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Proto-Shaman
03-16-2019, 01:42 AM
https://i.imgur.com/11AvFdn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4P3cfEk.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dItvWTufSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akh-_-GZq8s

sean
03-31-2022, 02:30 AM
All these theories are outdated because they are based on pre-WW2 worldview. The origins of this stuff is over 100 years old, the form of government in Eurasia has nothing to do with any of this aside from the fact that it indicates who is on which team.

Mackinder's theory was based on years of Great Game conflict over a really quite insignificant Central Asian region, Soviets actually controlled his heartland till 1989, but lost the Cold War. His biggest mistake was assuming that railroads were better than ships.

In the past, horses and chariots were the fastest way to travel, giving the people of the heartland steppe total control over the region and the freedom to attack any "rimland" area they chose. However, the reason they couldn't dominate these regions forever was low population and lack of productive might behind them, so even when they did take over a region (like Huns/Mongols) they often assimilated and lost connection to the heartland core.

Colonel Frank Grimes
03-31-2022, 02:46 AM
All these theories are outdated because they are based on pre-WW2 worldview. The origins of this stuff is over 100 years old, the form of government in Eurasia has nothing to do with any of this aside from the fact that it indicates who is on which team.

Mackinder's theory was based on years of Great Game conflict over a really quite insignificant Central Asian region, Soviets actually controlled his heartland till 1989, but lost the Cold War. His biggest mistake was assuming that railroads were better than ships.

In the past, horses and chariots were the fastest way to travel, giving the people of the heartland steppe total control over the region and the freedom to attack any "rimland" area they chose. However, the reason they couldn't dominate these regions forever was low population and lack of productive might behind them, so even when they did take over a region (like Huns/Mongols) they often assimilated and lost connection to the heartland core.

At least you don't copy and paste from Reddit anymore. Now you just summarize what other people say.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/bd88yq/illustration_of_a_geostrategic_idea_nicholas_john/

They're not wrong but it's just odd to me that your source of information is Reddit. And why bring up an old post just to summarize what other people have said on Reddit? Weird.

Have you ever read a book?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8

Anglo-Celtic
03-31-2022, 02:50 AM
At least you don't copy and paste from Reddit anymore. Now you just summarize what other people say.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/bd88yq/illustration_of_a_geostrategic_idea_nicholas_john/

They're not wrong but it's just odd to me that your source of information is Reddit. And why bring up an old post just to summarize what other people have said on Reddit? Weird.

Have you ever read a book?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8

You're on quite the campaign. Was it his inescapable front page avatars that sent you over the edge? ;-)