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leonj
03-17-2019, 09:27 PM
Where did Armenoids originate?

Ford
03-17-2019, 09:28 PM
I think Armenia

Tigranes
03-17-2019, 09:42 PM
Some kind of mentally instable person made it up.
If it's people with physical deformations/extreme features(most of them are not even Armenians) like you see on internet what you mean by "Armenoid".

Golden Lining
03-18-2019, 05:57 PM
In the first cities of mankind, adapted to living in urban areas.

MinervaItalica
03-18-2019, 06:11 PM
Turkey.

SardiniaAtlantis
03-18-2019, 06:30 PM
They were Dinarids that got locked in Mortimer’s basement for a few hundred generations.

Papastratosels26
03-18-2019, 06:31 PM
Anatolia

Cristiano viejo
03-18-2019, 06:32 PM
Turkey.

Tigranes
03-18-2019, 06:34 PM
https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/1187055_1027478_closed_2_jpgc49ab300ff7d2a951ea01e d3f267b300_jpgc8779a64a3015e509f8bf42e92b7666b

Ice
03-18-2019, 06:37 PM
Eastern Turkey

Tigranes
03-18-2019, 06:38 PM
Eastern Turkey

Did you mean "Western Armenia"?:p

Ice
03-18-2019, 06:41 PM
Did you mean "Western Armenia"?:p

don't get too greedy :p

Papastratosels26
03-18-2019, 09:22 PM
Up

Voskos
03-18-2019, 09:23 PM
Fertile crescent or Armenian highlands.

Kamal900
03-18-2019, 09:25 PM
I guess the Zagros mountains or lower Mesopotamia.

Mimi
03-18-2019, 10:28 PM
In the mind of some racial "scientist"?

Livin
03-18-2019, 10:44 PM
In Kura-Araxes culture.

Blondie
03-18-2019, 10:49 PM
Armenoid type is ancient anatolian type, old anatolians (i mean indoeuropean speakers, anatolian language) belonged mostly to armenoid type. Before the assimilation and genocide of armenians this country was much bigger.

Kingdom of Armenia:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Artaxiad_Armenia_80BC-fr.svg/1024px-Artaxiad_Armenia_80BC-fr.svg.png

Neowarior
03-18-2019, 11:00 PM
Armenoid type is ancient anatolian type, old anatolians (i mean indoeuropean speakers, anatolian language) belonged mostly to armenoid type. Before the assimilation and genocide of armenians this country was much bigger.

Kingdom of Armenia:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Artaxiad_Armenia_80BC-fr.svg/1024px-Artaxiad_Armenia_80BC-fr.svg.png

Armenian highlands are not part of the historical Anatolia.

Livin
03-18-2019, 11:15 PM
Ban immediately the degenerate kido...from hungary for posting nonsense things.

Blondie
03-18-2019, 11:20 PM
Ban immediately the degenerate kido...from hungary for posting nonsense things.

http://e.lvme.me/kwovcbl.jpg

Livin
03-18-2019, 11:29 PM
http://e.lvme.me/kwovcbl.jpg

You have to learn the basics first.There is not ancient anatolians becasue simply these people didnt left any genetic impact.They were just some elites who forced languange and culture among the native populations.Ancient anatolians were a mix of west asian/caucasus and neolithic anatolian farmers.These 2 groups were the main people before anatolia hellenized,romanicized and finally turkificized.In some regions west asian genes might be higher than anatolian farmer genes.As for Armenoid, is simply the original phenotype among west asian populations who split from Kura-Araxes culture.Ιt has nothing to do with ancient indoeuropean anatolian tribes or any other steppe people.

Blondie
03-18-2019, 11:35 PM
You have to learn the basics first.There is not ancient anatolians becasue simply these people didnt left any genetic impact.They were just some elites who forced languange and culture among the native populations.Ancient anatolians were a mix of west asian/caucasus and neolithic anatolian farmers.These 2 groups were the main people before anatolian hellenized,romanicized and finally turkificized.In some regions west asian genes might be higher than anatolian farmer genes.As for Armenoid is simply the original phenotype among west asian populations who split from Kura-Araxes culture.Ιt has nothing to do with ancient indoeuropean anatolian tribes or any other steppe people.

Wrong, this is the old anatolian language:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Anatolian_language

Branches:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatolian_languages

Their genetic:

"The Hittites (c. 2000-1178 BCE) were the first Indo-Europeans to defy (and defeat) the mighty Mesopotamian and Egyptian empires. There are two hypotheses regarding the origins of the Hittites. The first is that they came from the eastern Balkans and invaded Anatolia by crossing the Bosphorus. That would mean that they belonged either to the L23* or the Z2103 subclade. The other plausible scenario is that they were an offshoot of the late Maykop culture, and that they crossed the Caucasus to conquer the Hattian kingdom (perhaps after being displaced from the North Caucasus by the R1a people of the Catacomb culture). In that case the Hittites might have belonged to the R1b-Z2103 or the R1b-PF7562 subclade. The first hypothesis has the advantage of having a single nucleus, the Balkans, as the post-Yamna expansion of all Indo-European R1b. The Maykop hypothesis, on the other hand, would explain why the Anatolian branch of IE languages (Hittite, Luwian, Lydian, Palaic) is so archaic compared to other Indo-European languages, which would have originated in Yamna rather than Maykop.

There is substantial archaeological and linguistic evidence that Troy was an Indo-European city associated with the Steppe culture and haplogroup R1b. The Trojans were Luwian speakers related to the Hittites (hence Indo-European), with attested cultural ties to the culture of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe. The first city of Troy dates back to 3000 BCE, right in the middle of the Maykop period. Troy might have been founded by Maykop people as a colony securing the trade routes between the Black Sea and the Aegean. The founding of Troy happens to coincide exactly with the time the first galleys were made. Considering the early foundation of Troy, the most likely of the two Indo-European paternal haplogroups would be R1b-M269 or L23.

The Phrygians and the Proto-Armenians are two other Indo-European tribes stemming from the Balkans. Both appear to have migrated to Anatolia around 1200 BCE, during the 'great upheavals' of the Eastern Mediterranean (see below). The Phrygians (or Bryges) founded a kingdom (1200-700 BCE) in west central Anatolia, taking over most of the crumbling Hittite Empire. The Armenians crossed all Anatolia until Lake Van and settled in the Armenian Highlands. Nowadays 30% of Armenian belong to haplogroup R1b, the vast majority to the L584 subclade of Z2103 (=> see The Indo-European migrations to Armenia).

Most of the R1b found in Greece today is of the Balkanic Z2103 variety. There is also a minority of Proto-Celtic S116/P312 and of Italic/Alpine Celtic S28/U152. Z2103 could have descended from Albania or Macedonia during the Dorian invasion (see below), thought to have happened in the 12th century BCE. Their language appear to have been close enough to Mycenaean Greek to be mutually intelligible and easy for locals to adopt. The Mycenaeans might have brought some R1b (probably also Z2103) to Greece, but their origins can be traced back through archaeology to the Catacomb culture and the Seima-Turbino phenomenon of the northern forest-steppe, which would make them primarily an R1a tribe.

Greek and Anatolian S116 and some S28 lineages could be attributed to the La Tène Celtic invasions of the 3rd century BCE. The Romans also certainly brought S28 lineages (=> see Genetics of the Italian people), and probably also the Venetians later on, notably on the islands. Older clades of R1b, such as P25 and V88, are only a small minority and would have come along E1b1b, G2a and J2 from the Middle East."
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#Greco-Anatolian

Dorian
03-18-2019, 11:54 PM
O parapanw dialogos ,ante synennoeisai?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChyntJqigRk