Do I have SSA or North African ancestry?

[ModernMaskil]

On K13 I have over triple the amount of SSA as Ashkenazim get on the spreadsheets, more than Palestinians even. Same goes for K15, I believe. Weirdly I get no Northeast African on K13 though so it is possible I have an ancestor who was SSA proper? Extremely unlikely from a historical perspective. I get 5.70 North African on K36, though there's no spreadsheet for that so I'm not sure.

What calculators would be useful to find out?

[Bellbeaking]

jews usually have 2.5% ssa

[Smeagol]

How much SSA do you get?

[ModernMaskil]

How much SSA do you get?

On which calculator?

[hush2019]

jews usually have 2.5% ssa

Right. I wonder why that is too? Anything doing on explanations here?

[Cumansky]

On K13 I have over triple the amount of SSA as Ashkenazim get on the spreadsheets, more than Palestinians even. Same goes for K15, I believe. Weirdly I get no Northeast African on K13 though so it is possible I have an ancestor who was SSA proper? Extremely unlikely from a historical perspective. I get 5.70 North African on K36, though there's no spreadsheet for that so I'm not sure.

What calculators would be useful to find out?

K13 you get around 1.5% SSA? I get 0.75..

[hush2019]

jews usually have 2.5% ssa

Right. I wonder why that is too? Anything doing on explanations here?

[Sp_loa]

You talking haha?
I have doubled the SSA of my grandmother....probably I have three times more than you.

[Smeagol]

On which calculator?

K13.

[Sp_loa]

Stupid internet... Triple

[Cumansky]

You get SSA MDLP K23?

[Cumansky]

You talking haha?
I have doubled the SSA of my grandmother....probably I have three times more than you.

Spain black..

[Sp_loa]

Spain black..

Nah it's from the Berber side.
Sill very insignificant.. obviously not visible phenotypically.. I look fully caucasian.

[Smeagol]

jews usually have 2.5% ssa

I've never seen an Ashkenazi result with 2.5% SSA. Only if you're including Northeast African would they score that much.

[Cumansky]

Yourdnaportal K47

Kushitic 0.44%
North Iberian 4.14%
East Iberian 2.69%
Tibeto Burman 0.00%
North African 1.83%
South Caucasian 0.00%
North Caucasian 5.75%
Paleo Balkan 3.10%
Turkic Altai 0.00%
Proto Austronesian 0.00%
Nilotic 0.00%
East Mediterranean 0.00%
Omotic 0.00%
Munda 0.00%
North Amerind 0.00%
Arabic 0.00%
East European 28.72%
Central African Hunter Gatherer 0.00%
Andean 0.00%
Indo Chinese 0.00%
South Indian 0.00%
North East Asian 0.00%
Volgan 0.24%
Mongolian 0.00%
Siberian 0.00%
North Sea Germanic 6.99%
Celtic 6.70%
West African 0.00%
West Finnic 12.54%
Uralic 0.00%
Sahelian 0.00%
North West Indian 0.00%
East African Hunter Gatherer 0.00%
East Asian 0.00%
Amuro Manchurian 0.00%
Scando Germanic 8.16%
Iranian 0.00%
South African Hunter Gatherer 0.49%
Amazonian 0.00%
Baltic 13.40%
Malay 0.00%
Meso Amerind 0.00%
South Chinese 0.00%
Papuan 0.00%
West Mediterranean 0.41%
Pamirian 1.01%
Central Mediterranean 3.44%

[ModernMaskil]

You get SSA MDLP K23?

No, I don't get any SSA but I do get other kinds of African.
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.57
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.18
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 12.64
4 Near_East 11.51
5 North_African 8.79
6 South_Central_Asian 7
7 Ancestral_Altaic 0.83
8 Arctic 0.76
9 East_African 0.64
10 East_Siberian 0.64
11 African_Pygmy 0.59
12 Tungus-Altaic 0.55
13 Archaic_African 0.15
14 Khoisan 0.11
15 Subsaharian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 4.72
2 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 4.87
3 Turk_Jew ( ) 5.37
4 Sicilian_West ( ) 5.58
5 French_Jew ( ) 5.82
6 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 5.98
7 Moroccan_Jew ( ) 6.07
8 Italian_Jew ( ) 6.24
9 Maltese ( ) 6.26
10 Sicilian_East ( ) 7.21
11 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 7.3
12 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 7.39
13 Ashkenazi ( ) 8.25
14 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 8.94
15 Libyan_Jew ( ) 9.02
16 Tunisian_Jew ( ) 9.15
17 Bulgarian ( ) 9.29
18 Greek_Northwest ( ) 9.57
19 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 9.87
20 Macedonian ( ) 9.87

[ModernMaskil]

K13.


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.24
2 North_Atlantic 20.23
3 West_Med 16.46
4 West_Asian 11.48
5 Baltic 8.19
6 Red_Sea 6.62
7 Sub-Saharan 1.76
8 Siberian 1.35
9 South_Asian 0.49
10 Amerindian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 5.66
2 East_Sicilian 6.96
3 West_Sicilian 7.4
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.56
5 South_Italian 7.91
6 Central_Greek 8.02
7 Sephardic_Jewish 8.78
8 Italian_Jewish 9.41
9 Algerian_Jewish 10.71
10 Greek_Thessaly 11.19
11 Tuscan 12.35
12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.65
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.62
14 Cyprian 17.33
15 North_Italian 18.71
16 Bulgarian 18.73
17 Lebanese_Muslim 19.59
18 Romanian 20.3
19 Syrian 20.45
20 Turkish 21.8

[Sp_loa]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.24
2 North_Atlantic 20.23
3 West_Med 16.46
4 West_Asian 11.48
5 Baltic 8.19
6 Red_Sea 6.62
7 Sub-Saharan 1.76
8 Siberian 1.35
9 South_Asian 0.49
10 Amerindian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 5.66
2 East_Sicilian 6.96
3 West_Sicilian 7.4
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.56
5 South_Italian 7.91
6 Central_Greek 8.02
7 Sephardic_Jewish 8.78
8 Italian_Jewish 9.41
9 Algerian_Jewish 10.71
10 Greek_Thessaly 11.19
11 Tuscan 12.35
12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.65
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.62
14 Cyprian 17.33
15 North_Italian 18.71
16 Bulgarian 18.73
17 Lebanese_Muslim 19.59
18 Romanian 20.3
19 Syrian 20.45
20 Turkish 21.8

Your Sub-Saharan is similar to that's of my grandmother (she scores 1.80 you 1.76). I score 3.71% just for comparison...

I'm not sure whether yours is elevated for Ashkenazi, but in their pops_avg Ashkenazi is 0.5%, Sephardi 0.65% , Algerian Jew 1.91%.

[Smeagol]

I'm guessing you just have a bit more North African than the average Ashkenazi. A full-blown SSA ancestor is very unlikely.

[ModernMaskil]

Your Sub-Saharan is similar to that's of my grandmother (she scores 1.80 you 1.76). I score 3.71% just for comparison...

I'm not sure whether yours is elevated for Ashkenazi, but in their pops_avg Ashkenazi is 0.5%, Sephardi 0.65% , Algerian Jew 1.91%.

Why is yours so high (double that of Algerians)?

[ModernMaskil]

I'm guessing you just have a bit more North African than the average Ashkenazi. A full-blown SSA ancestor is very unlikely.

Yeah, I agree. But it seems like a lot more than average so I just thought it was abnormal. If I have any Sephardi ancestors they were probably 1500's ones with no berber Admix so I'm not sure where this comes from.

[Sp_loa]

Why is yours so high (double that of Algerians)?

My grandmother is Half Algerian Jew (from Oran, which is basically a very Sephardic European place has received many conversos, they were also Spanish speakers and identity as Spanish Jews and not North African Jew) and half Moroccan Jew from the Atlas mountains but according to 23andme with much stronger ties to Fez which was quite a Sephardi city too until around 1750, when Berber Jews started to arrived.

On the other hand most of my roots are from the Atlas mountains (South-Central Morocco), where mainly native North Africans converted to Judaism, and they have less Sephardic ancestry. From my grandfather side I have great-grandmother that looked very Berber as a young woman, (grew up to look more generic Med) so maybe she had high SSA.
I have from another side grandfather from Southern Morocco, so South that the local population in this area is basically black. This side isn't dark, they have light skin and blue eyes, levantine features, but I can't say for sure they didn't mix with the mulato Moroccans there many generations ago.

Funny thing I'm very pale, more than my "European" grandmother. Everyone in Israel think I'm Ashkenazi and abroad I'm guessed as European.
I think I can pass quite well in Spain actually, as a depigmented Berid or something.

[Sp_loa]

Yeah, I agree. But it seems like a lot more than average so I just thought it was abnormal. If I have any Sephardi ancestors they were probably 1500's ones with no berber Admix so I'm not sure where this comes from.

Many Andalusi Jews were originally from Morocco (they came with the Berbers) so they already had quite a lot of Berber blood.

[ModernMaskil]

My grandmother is Half Algerian Jew (from Oran, which is basically a very Sephardic European place has received many conversos, they were also Spanish speakers and identity as Spanish Jews and not North African Jew) and half Moroccan Jew from the Atlas mountains but according to 23andme with much stronger ties to Fez which was quite a Sephardi city too until around 1750, when Berber Jews started to arrived.

On the other most of my roots are from the Atlas mountains (South-Central Morocco), where mainly native North Africans converted to Judaism, and they have less Sephardic ancestry. From my grandfather side I have great-grandmother that looked very Berber as a young woman, (grew up to look more generic Med) so maybe she had high SSA.
I have from another side grandfather from Southern Morocco, so South that the local population in this area is basically black. This side isn't dark, they have light skin and blue eyes, levantine features, but I can't say for sure they didn't mix with the mulato Moroccans there many generation ago.

Funny thing I'm very pale, more than my "European" grandmother. Everyone in Israel think I'm Ashkenazi and abroad I'm guessed as European.
I think I can pass quite well in Spain actually, as a depigmented Berid or something.

The differences in slightly different regions of the country are insane.

[Sp_loa]

The differences in slightly different regions of the country are insane.

It explains why some Moroccan Jews are blonde with blue eyes and some can look 1/8 black...

[hush2019]

Yes Jews have a x amount of Black ancestry but it hurts their feelings. Jews tend to hate Blacks a lot and protest about even Black Jews like Ethiopian Jews try to move there. But funny they don't mind Sephardics and Ashkenazis living there who are Jewish groups who are a blend of European and Middle Eastern themselves respectfully. For mongrels, they're pretty racist which is surprising.

[Pine]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.24
2 North_Atlantic 20.23
3 West_Med 16.46
4 West_Asian 11.48
5 Baltic 8.19
6 Red_Sea 6.62
7 Sub-Saharan 1.76
8 Siberian 1.35
9 South_Asian 0.49
10 Amerindian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 5.66
2 East_Sicilian 6.96
3 West_Sicilian 7.4
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.56
5 South_Italian 7.91
6 Central_Greek 8.02
7 Sephardic_Jewish 8.78
8 Italian_Jewish 9.41
9 Algerian_Jewish 10.71
10 Greek_Thessaly 11.19
11 Tuscan 12.35
12 Tunisian_Jewish 12.65
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.62
14 Cyprian 17.33
15 North_Italian 18.71
16 Bulgarian 18.73
17 Lebanese_Muslim 19.59
18 Romanian 20.3
19 Syrian 20.45
20 Turkish 21.8

Yours is higher than mine and I thought I had a lot:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.68
2 West_Med 19.02
3 North_Atlantic 14.95
4 West_Asian 14.44
5 Red_Sea 6.14
6 Baltic 4.99
7 East_Asian 2.39
8 Sub-Saharan 1.17
9 Oceanian 0.97
10 Northeast_African 0.17
11 Amerindian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jewish 5.02
2 Italian_Jewish 5.59
3 South_Italian 5.85
4 Ashkenazi 6.49
5 Algerian_Jewish 6.63
6 East_Sicilian 7.19
7 Central_Greek 8.32
8 Tunisian_Jewish 8.48
9 Libyan_Jewish 9.81
10 West_Sicilian 9.84
11 Italian_Abruzzo 10.46
12 Cyprian 11.23
13 Greek_Thessaly 14.58
14 Lebanese_Muslim 14.6
15 Syrian 16.02
16 Tuscan 16.57
17 Samaritan 17.4
18 Lebanese_Druze 17.79
19 Lebanese_Christian 18.29
20 Palestinian 18.33

[Pine]

No, I don't get any SSA but I do get other kinds of African.
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.57
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.18
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 12.64
4 Near_East 11.51
5 North_African 8.79
6 South_Central_Asian 7
7 Ancestral_Altaic 0.83
8 Arctic 0.76
9 East_African 0.64
10 East_Siberian 0.64
11 African_Pygmy 0.59
12 Tungus-Altaic 0.55
13 Archaic_African 0.15
14 Khoisan 0.11
15 Subsaharian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 4.72
2 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 4.87
3 Turk_Jew ( ) 5.37
4 Sicilian_West ( ) 5.58
5 French_Jew ( ) 5.82
6 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 5.98
7 Moroccan_Jew ( ) 6.07
8 Italian_Jew ( ) 6.24
9 Maltese ( ) 6.26
10 Sicilian_East ( ) 7.21
11 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 7.3
12 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 7.39
13 Ashkenazi ( ) 8.25
14 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 8.94
15 Libyan_Jew ( ) 9.02
16 Tunisian_Jew ( ) 9.15
17 Bulgarian ( ) 9.29
18 Greek_Northwest ( ) 9.57
19 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 9.87
20 Macedonian ( ) 9.87

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.82
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.32
3 Near_East 13.62
4 North_African 9.57
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 8.39
6 South_Central_Asian 7.86
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.65
8 South_East_Asian 1.19
9 Austronesian 0.87
10 Melano_Polynesian 0.84
11 Archaic_African 0.64
12 Australoid 0.58
13 Paleo_Siberian 0.35
14 East_African 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moroccan_Jew ( ) 5.72
2 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 6.3
3 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.34
4 Turk_Jew ( ) 7.16
5 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 7.3
6 Maltese ( ) 7.32
7 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 7.65
8 Libyan_Jew ( ) 8.13
9 French_Jew ( ) 8.3
10 Italian_Jew ( ) 8.35
11 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 8.37
12 Tunisian_Jew ( ) 9.49
13 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 9.85
14 Sicilian_East ( ) 10.14
15 Bulgarian ( ) 11.69
16 Ashkenazi ( ) 11.7
17 Syrian_Jew ( ) 11.84
18 Greek_Northwest ( ) 11.86
19 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.88
20 Macedonian ( ) 12.18

[Sp_loa]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.82
2 European_Early_Farmers 20.32
3 Near_East 13.62
4 North_African 9.57
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 8.39
6 South_Central_Asian 7.86
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.65
8 South_East_Asian 1.19
9 Austronesian 0.87
10 Melano_Polynesian 0.84
11 Archaic_African 0.64
12 Australoid 0.58
13 Paleo_Siberian 0.35
14 East_African 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moroccan_Jew ( ) 5.72
2 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 6.3
3 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.34
4 Turk_Jew ( ) 7.16
5 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 7.3
6 Maltese ( ) 7.32
7 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 7.65
8 Libyan_Jew ( ) 8.13
9 French_Jew ( ) 8.3
10 Italian_Jew ( ) 8.35
11 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 8.37
12 Tunisian_Jew ( ) 9.49
13 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 9.85
14 Sicilian_East ( ) 10.14
15 Bulgarian ( ) 11.69
16 Ashkenazi ( ) 11.7
17 Syrian_Jew ( ) 11.84
18 Greek_Northwest ( ) 11.86
19 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.88
20 Macedonian ( ) 12.18

Are you Ashkenazi?

[Pine]

Are you Ashkenazi?

All ancestors from the former russian empire.

[Pine]

How atypical are my results?

[Sp_loa]

How atypical are my results?

Haven't seen an Ashkenazi with such a low Baltic until you.

[Pine]

Haven't seen an Ashkenazi with such a low Baltic until you.

My sibling scores 1% lower. Think it's good evidence of sephardic ancestry?

[ModernMaskil]

How atypical are my results?

You're essentially equivalent to an Ashkenazi 1000 or so years ago after the genetic bottleneck in Italy. Very Eastern shifted. Most Ashkenazis don't get Palestinian in their top 20.

[ModernMaskil]

My sibling scores 1% lower. Think it's good evidence of sephardic ancestry?

Not necessarily. The only major differences between Ashkenazim and Sephardim are we have East Euro admixture where they don't and they have Iberian admixture where we don't. However the differences between Iberia and Italian are minor in the grand scheme which is why some Ashkenazim who simply don't have any Eastern European ancestry plot with Sephardim. Sephardim without North African admix can almost be considered Proto Ashkenazi.

[Sp_loa]

Not necessarily. The only major differences between Ashkenazim and Sephardim are we have East Euro admixture where they don't and they have Iberian admixture where we don't. However the differences between Iberia and Italian are minor in the grand scheme which is why some Ashkenazim who simply don't have any Eastern European ancestry plot with Sephardim. Sephardim without North African admix can almost be considered Proto Ashkenazi.

Iberians are very different from Italians (excluding far north Italians). Genetically it's hard to even call them Southern Europeans, they are very Western and closer to dutch than to south Italian.

"Luckily for us" most East Sephardim don't score Spanish at all (2-5% Spanish is nothing), and North African Sephardim (who score more Spanish sometimes up to 25% but usually around 10%) also have Berber blood that increases the distance and south shifts them.

[ModernMaskil]

Yes Jews have a x amount of Black ancestry but it hurts their feelings. Jews tend to hate Blacks a lot and protest about even Black Jews like Ethiopian Jews try to move there. But funny they don't mind Sephardics and Ashkenazis living there who are Jewish groups who are a blend of European and Middle Eastern themselves respectfully. For mongrels, they're pretty racist which is surprising.

No it really doesn't hurt our feelings. Sure there are some racist Jews but there were also plenty who allied with blacks in the US and fought discrimination.

Please don't talk about Ethiopian Jews, it just makes you look fucking stupid. Anti-Israel people tend to make a big deal out of them when it is literally a non-issue. There were never any protests against the immigration of Ethiopian Jews to Israel.

[ModernMaskil]

Iberians are very different from Italians (excluding far north Italians). Genetically it's hard to even call them Southern Europeans, they are very Western and closer to dutch than to south Italian.

"Luckily for us" most East Sephardim don't score Spanish at all (2-5% Spanish is nothing), and North African Sephardim (who score more Spanish sometimes up to 25%) also have Berber blood that increases the distance and south shifts them.

Which is why I said in the grand scheme. East Euro admixture in a Middle Eastern group is much more noticeable than Iberian is my point. It doesn't make Sephardim shift significantly northward.

[Leto]

MDLP World and Dodecad World9 are the best for generic black ancestry.

[ModernMaskil]

I get 1.12 on MDLP World and 1.25 on Dodecad World9 which is still give or take double the average.
Interesting.

[Leto]

I get 1.12 on MDLP World and 1.25 on Dodecad World9 which is still give or take double the average.
Interesting.
World has two components - SSA and Paleo-African.

[ModernMaskil]

World has two components - SSA and Paleo-African.

Yes, but it was negligible so I omitted it. 0.27 pct.

[Leto]

Yes, but it was negligible so I omitted it. 0.27 pct.
You are less than 1.5% black anyway. That's basically nothing, especially for a Jewish person (after all Jews are not Northern Europeans or East Asians).

[ModernMaskil]

You are less than 1.5% black anyway. That's basically nothing, especially for a Jewish person (after all Jews are not Northern Europeans or East Asians).

I know, its just that it's much higher than the Ashkenazi average so I was wondering what could have caused that. Anyway, thanks for the calculator recommendations.

[Pine]

Not necessarily. The only major differences between Ashkenazim and Sephardim are we have East Euro admixture where they don't and they have Iberian admixture where we don't. However the differences between Iberia and Italian are minor in the grand scheme which is why some Ashkenazim who simply don't have any Eastern European ancestry plot with Sephardim. Sephardim without North African admix can almost be considered Proto Ashkenazi.

I do have elevated North African and Iberian in models that measure them.

[Pine]

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-35449fb5fd1b51dbec4c6698e4f4ec49
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-be238ad7c18d9e773a6bfec9ac362ff1

Mine:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 6.71
Armenian 5.57
Basque 0.53
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.49
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.33
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 0.98
East_Med 16.86
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 1.97
Iberian 12.20
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.29
Malayan 1.50
Near_Eastern 14.40
North_African 3.04
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 6.47
North_Sea 2.25
Northeast_African 0.06
Oceanian 0.33
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.05
West_Med 3.98

[Pine]

You're essentially equivalent to an Ashkenazi 1000 or so years ago after the genetic bottleneck in Italy. Very Eastern shifted. Most Ashkenazis don't get Palestinian in their top 20.

I thought this might be possible due to random inheritance, but then my sibling scored "Baltic 3.97" on K13. All of my ancestors are from the Russian Empire, most of whom lived in the eastern end of the Pale. I'm as geographically "eastern" as they get. The other theory is that Sephardi background contributed to this. This is consistent with some family names I have and something my grandad once said. What's the best way to solve this?

[hush2019]

I know, its just that it's much higher than the Ashkenazi average so I was wondering what could have caused that. Anyway, thanks for the calculator recommendations.
Much higher? I doubt it.

[Cristiano viejo]

Spain black..

Spain black?? what does that mean? there were not blacks in Spain historically. Only a bunch of slaves in Sevilla and they died during the Great Plague in 1647
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plague_of_Seville

Why are you so ignorant? taking account the boy is a Moroccan Jew, would not make more sense to think his SSA comes from there? :picard1:
You guys sometimes show so little common sense that marvels me...

[Sp_loa]

Spain black?? what does that mean? there were not blacks in Spain historically. Only a bunch of slaves in Sevilla and they died during the Great Plague in 1647
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plague_of_Seville

Why are you so ignorant? taking account the boy is a Moroccan Jew, would not make more sense to think his SSA comes from there? :picard1:
You guys sometimes show so little common sense that marvels me...

Yeah I told her it comes from the Berber.
Not that this SSA is so significant, but still.

[ModernMaskil]

Much higher? I doubt it.

It is though lol. What do you mean you doubt it? How can you doubt a fact?

[ModernMaskil]

I thought this might be possible due to random inheritance, but then my sibling scored "Baltic 3.97" on K13. All of my ancestors are from the Russian Empire, most of whom lived in the eastern end of the Pale. I'm as geographically "eastern" as they get. The other theory is that Sephardi background contributed to this. This is consistent with some family names I have and something my grandad once said. What's the best way to solve this?

Either trace your genealogy or try some other calculators. FamilyTreeDNA is probably the best for the sake of finding Sephardic specifically.

[Pine]

Either trace your genealogy or try some other calculators. FamilyTreeDNA is probably the best for the sake of finding Sephardic specifically.

Which calculators? I don't get Sephardic on FTDNA, but I do get Sephardic on MyHeritage.

[Cumansky]

Spain black?? what does that mean? there were not blacks in Spain historically. Only a bunch of slaves in Sevilla and they died during the Great Plague in 1647
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plague_of_Seville

Why are you so ignorant? taking account the boy is a Moroccan Jew, would not make more sense to think his SSA comes from there? :picard1:
You guys sometimes show so little common sense that marvels me...

My blackness from Spain too fam

[ModernMaskil]

Which calculators? I don't get Sephardic on FTDNA, but I do get Sephardic on MyHeritage.

You've paid for both? How much does MyHeritage give you?

[Pine]

You've paid for both? How much does MyHeritage give you?

About 89% Ashkenazi, 4% Sephardi, 3% Middle East, 2% West Asia, 2% Italy.

MyHeritage upload was free. Did pay for FTDNA upload.

[ModernMaskil]

About 89% Ashkenazi, 4% Sephardi, 3% Middle East, 2% West Asia, 2% Italy.

MyHeritage upload was free. Did pay for FTDNA upload.

You could have some Sephardi ancestor but it is not significant. More than likely you are just more of an Ashkenazi with no Slavic admix. Granted there's very little difference from a genetic perspective.