Are Kurds more West Asian than Turks?

[leonj]

On YouTube, I have watched some ancestry results of both Turks and Kurds and it seems like most Kurds score very high percentage of West Asian. On the other hand, Turks score less West Asian but score more Southern European, Central Asian and Eastern European.

[Kamal900]

Yes. Turks are a mixture between Turkmen(predominately central asiatics with some east asian) and local Anatolian while Kurds are predominately west asian(mostly neolithic Iranian).

[Ayetooey]

Depends on what part of Turkey the Turk is from, some parts are near 100% Anatolian native.. Kurds also score south Asian when broken down.

[itilvolga]

Yes.

[lonewolfcypriot]

Kurds=West Asian+South Asian
Turks=South Euro+West Asian+East Asian

[leonj]

Kurds=West Asian+South Asian
Turks=South Euro+West Asian+East Asian

are you sure about South Asian?

[lonewolfcypriot]

are you sure about South Asian?

ofcourse, Kurds usually score around 6% SA in Eurogenes

[Kaspias]

are you sure about South Asian?He is right. Kurds carry huge Gedrosia even direct SA

[gültekin]

Depends on what part of Turkey the Turk is from, some parts are near 100% Anatolian native.. Kurds also score south Asian when broken down.
"parts" no, just one single city, which is actualy south caucasian, not proper "anatolian"

[Ayetooey]

"parts" no, just one single city, which is actualy south caucasian, not proper "anatolian"

Which city brother?

[gültekin]

Which city brother?
which "parts" were you mention ?

[Ayetooey]

which "parts" were you mention ?

North-East.

[lonewolfcypriot]

"parts" no, just one single city, which is actualy south caucasian, not proper "anatolian"
Rize is actually located within Anatolia btw. so it is "proper Anatolia"

[gültekin]

North-East.
correct, it isn't plural, and includes only one city from there

[gültekin]

Rize is actually located within Anatolia btw. so it is "proper Anatolia"
east of sivas is not "anatolia"

[FinalFlash]

Rize is actually located within Anatolia btw. so it is "proper Anatolia"

Anatolia is the peninsula. Anything outside of the peninsula is not in anatolia.

[lonewolfcypriot]

east of sivas is not "anatolia"


Anatolia is the peninsula. Anything outside of the peninsula is not in anatolia.

Explain this
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=34216EC9056554E0C1A5F2BE82E89C42A93C1472&thid=OIP.cam1I9uogozRKAHTn1alDwHaDL&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki pedia%2Fcommons%2Fa%2Faa%2FAnatolieLimits.jpg&exph=343&expw=800&q=anatolia&selectedindex=8&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,6

[gültekin]

Explain this
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=34216EC9056554E0C1A5F2BE82E89C42A93C1472&thid=OIP.cam1I9uogozRKAHTn1alDwHaDL&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki pedia%2Fcommons%2Fa%2Faa%2FAnatolieLimits.jpg&exph=343&expw=800&q=anatolia&selectedindex=8&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,6
rize-trabzon geneticaly cluster first with Laz then Georgians. they are s.caucasian

[FinalFlash]

Kurdish G25

Fit 1.163

Sappali Tepe BA 34.17
Seh Gabi Chl 20
Levant N 11.67
Barcin N. 9.17
N. Caucasus MBA 8.33
Yamnaya Samara. 8.33
Sintasha MLBA. 6.67
Yamnaya Ukraine. 1.67

[Haider]

Both Turks and Kurds vary. In my experience, the Turkic element is mostly concentrated in Central Anatolia/Ankara region. For the most part Turks are just Turkfied Anatolians with a significant Greek input in West Turkey and a Caucasian input in Northeastern Turkey.

Kurds are overall more 'West Asisn', but they still vary. Turkish Kurds are mixed with Turks and Syrian/Iraqi Turks are mixed with Arabs to varying degrees. And Iranian Kurds are autosomally identical to Persians.

[gültekin]

Both Turks and Kurds vary. In my experience, the Turkic element is mostly concentrated in Central Anatolia/Ankara region. For the most part Turks are just Turkfied Anatolians with a significant Greek input in West Turkey and a Caucasian input in Northeastern Turkey.

Kurds are overall more 'West Asisn', but they still vary. Turkish Kurds are mixed with Turks and Syrian/Iraqi Turks are mixed with Arabs to varying degrees. And Iranian Kurds are autosomally identical to Persians.
wrong, Turkic element is mostly concentrated in West Turkey
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9Hsx6aOInUE/Whr2rRxvPjI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/pmpiCOGIKRUfzWmuNXFFQop6zG6Kk6V1wCLcBGAs/s1600/East%2BEurasian%2B1.png

[FinalFlash]

Kurdish G25

Fit 1.163

Sappali Tepe BA 34.17
Seh Gabi Chl 20
Levant N 11.67
Barcin N. 9.17
N. Caucasus MBA 8.33
Yamnaya Samara. 8.33
Sintasha MLBA. 6.67
Yamnaya Ukraine. 1.67

They are a quarter European genetically while mostly being Neolithic/Chalcolithic Iranians with some influence from the Levant.

[waam]

Correct me if I'm wrong but to my understanding Turkey is such a melting pot you can't actually conclude anything about admixture by region for the most part, It's all over the place.

[Marmara]

"Greek Input" is a myth which is busted millions of times.

[Marmara]

Correct me if I'm wrong but to my understanding Turkey is such a melting pot you can't actually conclude anything about admixture by region for the most part, It's all over the place.

You can, except for metropols (Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir...)

[leonj]

Correct me if I'm wrong but to my understanding Turkey is such a melting pot you can't actually conclude anything about admixture by region for the most part, It's all over the place.

I have taken Central Anatolians as reference population

[Livin]

"Greek Input" is a myth which is busted millions of times.

With the term greek input they probably mean more anatolian neolithic rather west asian/central asian mix.

[Imperator Biff]

Yes they are. Turks have more steppe ancestry and Kurds derive some of their ancestry from BMAC.

[lonewolfcypriot]

"Greek Input" is a myth which is busted millions of times.
Greek input is actually present in West Turkey

[Leto]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h7yXUn5ZUNQM34ItjKLHMr-1HovxDPjf16jnJl-0r5Y/edit#gid=0
Anatolian Turks (n=376, very large sample size) are about 10% East Eurasian and 1.3% South Asian on average (Dodecad K12b)
Zazas (n=17) are 2.1% South Asian, Kurmanji Kurds (n=10) are 2.6%, Sorani Kurds (n=10) are 3.8%. The East Eurasian admixture in the Kurds is minimal (below 3%).

[Gangrel]

Both Turks and Kurds vary. In my experience, the Turkic element is mostly concentrated in Central Anatolia/Ankara region. For the most part Turks are just Turkfied Anatolians with a significant Greek input in West Turkey and a Caucasian input in Northeastern Turkey.

Kurds are overall more 'West Asisn', but they still vary. Turkish Kurds are mixed with Turks and Syrian/Iraqi Turks are mixed with Arabs to varying degrees. And Iranian Kurds are autosomally identical to Persians.

Western Turkey is the most Turkic area of Turkey by far. This myth needs to end. Go to Balikesir or Mugla and you will never say this shit again

[Bakha]

Western Turkey is the most Turkic area of Turkey by far. This myth needs to end. Go to Balikesir or Mugla and you will never say this shit again

agree, when i was in Marmaris in early 2000´s, i felt like i was in Bukhoro again, so much turanic pseudo-central asian aesthetics

[Papastratosels26]

Yes they are.

[MS85]

Kurds are native to Kurdistan. Kurds are NorthWest Iranic (Aryan) people close to the ancient Copper Age Iranian Medes.

Kurdish DNA = 70+% Median/Aryan + some Scythian/Cimmerian from the Northern Steppes + Parthian from BMAC + some minor Semitic (mostly ancient Chaldean) between 5-10%

[MS85]

He is right. Kurds carry huge Gedrosia even direct SA'Gedrosia' in Kurds is NATIVE to Kurdistan. It has been part of the Medes, who are direct ancestors of the Kurds. Kurds have a lot Iranian Farmer related DNA which is actually Aryan/Iranic. It is native to the Iranian Plateau and Kurdish Zagros Mountains. Neolithic Iranian Farmer related DNA has nothing to do with the ASI. It is acutally the other way. ASI is a mixture of many components. Iranian Farmer DNA is very ancient and is native to Kurds.


ASI has evolved from Dravidian AASI or ancestral ASI.

https://i.postimg.cc/1XHZtjkL/acd.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/ZnZXNLZp/ace.jpg


Kurds are mostly native to Kurdistan = "blue + orange components" = Aryans