Mdlp world results

[North Sea]

I am an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo. I get really high match with North Italy on many calcs and maps.



The Kosovar sample they use here must be some really southern Kosovars I assume, as on other calcs I get Kosovar much closer with North Italy / Bergamo and Tuscany.











#Population (source)Distance

1 Italian North 4.63
2 Gagauz6.28
3 Bulgarian6.53
4Italian_North7.24
5Greek_North7.54
6Romania7.66
7Greek_South7.83
8Macedonian8.71
9Provancal8.97
10Ashkenazim_V8.99
11Corsican9.02
12Montenegrin9.11
13Greek_Center9.7
14Swiss9.97
15Italian-Center10.43
16Portugese10.78
17Kosovar10.85
18Greek_East11.29
19Serbian11.89
20Italian-South12.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance185.9%Italian_North+14.1%Jew-Iraqi@0.9285.1%Italian_North+14.9%Jew_Georgia@0.93 86.2%Italian_North+13.8%Jew_Iraqi@1.03486.6%Italia n_North+13.4%Jew-Iran@1.06584.1%Italian_North+15.9%Druze@1.06651.1% Italian_North+48.9%Greek_North@1.11783.9%Italian_N orth+16.1%Lebanese@1.17864.6%Italian-South+35.4%Welsh@1.18959.5%Italian-Center+40.5%German-South@1.21066.6%French+33.4%Cypriot@1.251158.1%Mon tenegrin+41.9%Italian-South@1.251252%Italian_North+48%Greek_South@1.2713 54.9%Italian-South+45.1%German-South@1.271486.6%Italian_North+13.4%Jew_Kurd@1.315 85.7%Italian_North+14.3%Jew_Azerbaijan@1.311664%It alian-South+36%CEU_V@1.321765.1%Italian_North+34.9%Jew_R omania@1.331876.7%Provancal+23.3%Cypriot@1.331981. 5%Italian_North+18.5%Jew_Syria@1.342068.4%Provanca l+31.6%Greek_Cretan@1.37

[Cumansky]

Why you don't get Kosovar or Albanian but Gagauz?

[North Sea]

Why you don't get Kosovar or Albanian but Gagauz?

Seems like every Albanian get the same results on this calc,

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?242311-Albanians-Post-your-MDLP-World-results


I get Albanian and Kosovar close on others but depends on what as we aren't all identical IMO. There is a South - North variation. Some of us are like South Italians, others like North Italy / Tuscans. Same way Italians, Bulgarians, Macedonians etc aren't.



This is a weird calc but we are really most Italian shifted people of the Balkans IMO.

[Cumansky]

Seems like every Albanian get the same results on this calc,

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?242311-Albanians-Post-your-MDLP-World-results


I get Albanian and Kosovar close on others but depends on what as we aren't all identical IMO. There is a South - North variation. Some of us are like South Italians, others like North Italy / Tuscans. Same way Italians, Bulgarians, Macedonians etc aren't.



This is a weird calc but we are really most Italian shifted people of the Balkans IMO.

Maybe some defect in MDLP references is causing odd result. Still why you have 2nd Gagauz alot of those Albanians don't, I ran few of those people in calculator I designed before so I have some recollection of their result.

Yes you are most Mediterranean or Italian in Balkan probably some Greeks or Montenegrins on your level. I get alot Gagauz myself this calc. I found match in MyHeritage yesterday who is Albanian but listed his country Macedonia?

[North Sea]

Maybe some defect in MDLP references is causing odd result. Still why you have 2nd Gagauz alot of those Albanians don't, I ran few of those people in calculator I designed before so I have some recollection of their result.

Yes you are most Mediterranean or Italian in Balkan probably some Greeks or Montenegrins on your level. I get alot Gagauz myself this calc. I found match in MyHeritage yesterday who is Albanian but listed his country Macedonia?

They actually do. Some even have Gaugaz at closer distance than I do. You need to look at the distance. But I am North shifted than most people in that thread also. Gaugaz are also more North. Some others are more South and get it at longer distance. Gaugaz is some native shifted population AFAIK. I get it on some calcs like I also get Bulgarian, Romanian etc.

But I get mostly Italian, Greek and Albanian.


You might as well ask me why am I more north but I seen plenty of Albanians who are north too, maybe not in that thread. Same for Gaugaz thing. Results vary between us. :P


Some calcs I even was more CHG shifted than most Albanians I saw who were more EHG. I don't take it that serious as there are always countrymen you will find that do get same results as you or similar, just depends and they might not always be on this forum.

[Voskos]

Can you post world 22 oracle?

[Cumansky]

They actually do. Some even have Gaugaz at closer distance than I do. But I am North shifted than most people in that thread also. Gaugaz are also more North. Some others are more South and get it at longer distance. Gaugaz is some native shifted population AFAIK. I get it on some calcs like I also get Bulgarian, Romanian etc.

But I get mostly Italian, Greek and Albanian.

Gagauz have some Turkic lineage that is common in the Steppe and Caucasus region. They assimilated native Vlachs and got assimilated by Vlachs equally IMO. Greek users said Vlachs shift more north than other local peoples.

Do you know anything about Albanians of Macedonia? Anything distinct about their history or no?

[Kaspias]

Can you share your Eurogenes K13 and PuntDNAL K15? Not just oracles, with the results.

[MagnusDark]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 49.25
2 North_and_East_European 19.2
3 Caucaus_Parsia 16.12
4 Middle_East 14.6
5 East_Asian 0.4
6 Paleo_African 0.21
7 Melanesian 0.18
8 Mesoamerican 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian-North 3.71
2 Greek_North 6.91
3 Greek_South 7.29
4 Corsican 8.15
5 Greek_Center 8.21
6 Gagauz 8.23
7 Italian_North 8.48
8 Bulgarian 8.87
9 Italian-Center 8.89
10 Romania 9.03
11 Kosovar 9.31
12 Greek_East 9.81
13 Ashkenazim_V 9.9
14 Provancal 10.39
15 Italian-South 10.69
16 Macedonian 11.08
17 Montenegrin 11.34
18 Portugese 11.51
19 Swiss 11.73
20 Jew_Romania 12.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.7% Italian_North + 46.3% Greek_East @ 0.99
2 78.8% Greek_North + 21.2% Basque @ 1.01
3 64.5% Italian-Center + 35.5% French @ 1.04
4 50.8% Greek_Center + 49.2% Italian_North @ 1.07
5 65.8% Italian-North + 34.2% Greek_North @ 1.11
6 85.5% Italian-North + 14.5% Greek_Azov @ 1.21
7 51.2% Italian_North + 48.8% Italian-Center @ 1.23
8 51.5% Greek_East + 48.5% Provancal @ 1.24
9 54% Italian-Center + 46% Provancal @ 1.29
10 68.1% Italian_North + 31.9% Greek_Cretan @ 1.3
11 56% Greek_Center + 44% Provancal @ 1.33
12 69.6% Italian-South + 30.4% Orcadian @ 1.35
13 68.7% Italian-South + 31.3% British @ 1.37
14 60.2% Italian-South + 39.8% French @ 1.37
15 62.3% Greek_East + 37.7% French @ 1.39
16 61.7% Italian-South + 38.3% German-South @ 1.41
17 51.6% Kosovar + 48.4% Ashkenazim_V @ 1.43
18 50.7% Provancal + 49.3% Italian-South @ 1.45
19 92.2% Italian-North + 7.8% Azeri @ 1.46
20 92.6% Italian-North + 7.4% Kurd @ 1.48

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Cypriot + Kosovar + Corsican + German_V @ 0.634849
2 French + Greek_East + Italian-North + Italian-Center @ 0.732526
3 French + Greek_East + Greek_East + Italian-North @ 0.765629
4 Kosovar + Italian-South + Italian-South + Croatian @ 0.772675

[MagnusDark]

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Kit JM8436604

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 48.67
2 North_and_East_European 19.1
3 Caucaus_Parsia 15.39
4 Middle_East 15.07
5 Arctic_Amerind 1.37
6 Melanesian 0.23
7 Sub_Saharian 0.17

My Results: Admixture properties seem very close to the supposed Illyrian sample above. We score similar on population mixture too. My number one mix North Italian/Greek East is at a distance of .99 for me and 1.34 for the above Illyrian. It seems they're like a western shifted Albanian like. I imagine the added steppe mixture pulled us further east.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_and_West_European 49.25
2 North_and_East_European 19.2
3 Caucaus_Parsia 16.12
4 Middle_East 14.6
5 East_Asian 0.4
6 Paleo_African 0.21
7 Melanesian 0.18
8 Mesoamerican 0.02

[Lucas]

my daughter

# Population Percent
1 North_and_East_European 47.69
2 South_and_West_European 39.94
3 Caucaus_Parsia 8.80
4 Middle_East 2.78


Finished reading population data. 257 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian-West @ 3.300917
2 Slovakian @ 3.345778
3 Ukrainian_V @ 3.828524
4 Sorb @ 3.989164
5 Ukrainian-Center @ 4.732002
6 German @ 4.905897
7 German-North @ 5.200457
8 Czech @ 5.379148
9 Belarusian_V @ 5.938245
10 Swedish_V @ 6.074080
11 Ukrainian @ 6.182517
12 Ukrainian-East @ 6.371544
13 Swedish @ 6.548159
14 Croatian_V @ 6.719365
15 Polish_V @ 6.862318
16 Russian_cossack @ 6.958589
17 Russian_South @ 7.321544
18 Norwegian_V @ 7.654782
19 Latvian_V @ 8.144197
20 Slovenian @ 8.323608

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German-North +50% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.298908


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ukrainian-Center +25% Ukrainian-Center +25% British @ 1.092091


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Latvian_V + Ukrainian-East + Polish_V + British @ 0.872134
2 Latvian_V + Ukrainian-East + Polish_V + Orcadian @ 0.884309
3 Latvian_V + Russian_South + Polish_V + British @ 0.988770
4 Latvian_V + Polish_V + Orcadian + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.015620
5 Latvian_V + Belarusian_V + Ukrainian-East + Orcadian @ 1.046528
6 Latvian_V + Russian_South + Polish_V + Orcadian @ 1.070027
7 Latvian_V + German-North + Ukrainian-East + Swedish @ 1.078595
8 Latvian_V + Ukrainian + Polish_V + British @ 1.090956
9 Ukrainian-Center + Ukrainian-Center + Ukrainian-Center + British @ 1.092091
10 Latvian_V + Ukrainian-East + Welsh + Sorb @ 1.094587
11 Latvian_V + Ukrainian + Polish_V + Orcadian @ 1.094886
12 Latvian_V + German-North + Russian_South + Swedish @ 1.110405
13 Latvian_V + Ukrainian-East + Polish_V + CEU @ 1.111639
14 Latvian_V + Russian_South + Orcadian + Sorb @ 1.113714
15 Latvian_V + Welsh + Polish_V + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.130204
16 Latvian_V + Russian_South + Welsh + Sorb @ 1.130356
17 Latvian_V + Ukrainian-East + Welsh + Polish_V @ 1.136120
18 Latvian_V + Belarusian_V + Ukrainian-East + British @ 1.139489
19 Latvian_V + Polish + Ukrainian-Center + British @ 1.148275
20 Latvian_V + Ukrainian-East + Orcadian + Sorb @ 1.149082