How much South Asian admixture do Iranians have?

[leonj]

How much South Asian admixture do Iranians have?

[xtal]

Depends on the region but my guesses something between 1% to 30%

[JQP4545]

I think modern Iranians are mostly the same people as the Persians.

[Imperator Biff]

The most ASI shifted Iranian population are Kurds.

[lameduck]

South Asian in iranians is mostly Gedrosia/kalash related which is Caucasoid component of Indus Valley, real ASI in Iran is very low, almost noise level.

[Thambi]

Depending on calc and region, iranians get anywhere from 3%(harappa) to 30%(mdlp16) southindian/south asian.

[Bakha]

usually 30%-40% gedrosia-like admixture

[NPKTO]

South Asian in iranians is mostly Gedrosia/kalash related which is Caucasoid component of Indus Valley, real ASI in Iran is very low, almost noise level.
Yeah that Gedrosian component is even present in Georgians (20%) on average. It’s ancient component that is found in Iranian Neolithic/CHG & Steppe as well.

[Chaos One]

Gedrosian is different from South Asian. I think Iranians range at 1% to 5% ASI, but have good Gedrosian numbers, specially Balochis. Iranic groups with good ASI would be Afghans, Tajiks or Pamiris (ranging from 5% to 30%, Pamiris more like Wakhi from NE Pakistan).

[Oghuz]

In GED matches, I have seen some 3-12 % most.

this SA comes from Gedrosia (Baloch), Iranian neolithic farmers.

[Leto]

The most ASI shifted Iranian population are Kurds.
No. The Baloch are.

[Leto]

Depending on calc and region, iranians get anywhere from 3%(harappa) to 30%(mdlp16) southindian/south asian.
This. Persians are usually 3-5% South_Asian on Dodecad K12b and HarappaWorld. Gedrosia is not South Asian.

[JMack]

This. Persians are usually 3-5% South_Asian on Dodecad K12b and HarappaWorld. Gedrosia is not South Asian.

South Asian component includes Gedrosia. If one do a breakdown of this component only a part of it is really ASI/Veddid. European components and especially Jewish ones have tons of breakdowns, South Asian is just some kind of average of people inhabiting South Asia all around. They are not all mostly ASI, I'd say they are not even predominantly ASI (depending on the group ofc).

Iranians have almost no ASI/Veddid ancestry.

[Leto]

South Asian component includes Gedrosia. If one do a breakdown of this component only a part of it is really ASI/Veddid. European components and especially Jewish ones have tons of breakdowns, South Asian is just some kind of average of people inhabiting South Asia all around. They are not all mostly ASI, I'd say they are not even predominantly ASI (depending on the group ofc).

Iranians have almost no ASI/Veddid ancestry.
On said calculators it is mostly South Indian.

[Borealis]

This is not an easy question to answer unless you define South Asian admixture. Do you mean people from South Asia(as we know it now)who got up, moved to Iran, and mixed with Iranians? In that case practically none. But if you mean if there’s some common ASI like ancestry, then yes there is. It exists in Iranian bandaris at like 5% ASI. Very minor 1% or less ASI is found in other parts too. Bandaris(southern Iranians) are a transition between Persian Central/north/west Iranians and Baloch people. Baloch people in turn are something of a transition between NW South Asians and Iranians.

[JMack]

On said calculators it is mostly South Indian.

South Indian =/= ASI.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Gedrosian it's basically Basal Eurasian with some ASI

[NPKTO]

Gedrosian it's basically Basal Eurasian with some ASI
You’re forgetting ANE. It’s ANE + Basal + minor ASI.

[Leto]

Gedrosia is Caucasoid. White Europeans get it. The Irish get like 6-8%.

[xtal]

U7 is quite high in northern Iran as well

[xtal]

U7 is quite high in northern Iran as well

Even though it is now more common in SA but I do believe that Haplogroup U7 originated from northern Iran during the Neolithic/Chalcolithic.

[El_Abominacion]

On 23andMe i'd say the average that Iranians score is 3-5%, and as others have said it depends on the region. I have a match with 4 grandparents born in Bajestan, he scores 9% South Asian which is the highest i've seen for an Iranian on 23andMe
https://i.gyazo.com/f5b6bd218256b8a865dbfe617494bb7f.png

[Borealis]

On 23andMe i'd say the average that Iranians score is 3-5%, and as others have said it depends on the region. I have a match with 4 grandparents born in Bajestan, he scores 9% South Asian which is the highest i've seen for an Iranian on 23andMe
https://i.gyazo.com/f5b6bd218256b8a865dbfe617494bb7f.png

Yup, east/southeast Iranians can go up to 10-15% South Asian on 23andme I believe. The Shahr e Shokta graveyard was home to some south Asian types in the bronze age.

[Leto]

Fucking Hadouken disapproves of this thread :lol:
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=50710

[MS85]

The most ASI shifted Iranian population are Kurds.Kurds have a lot Iranian Farmer related DNA which is actually Aryan/Iranic. It is native to the Iranian Plateau and Kurdish Zagros Mountains. Neolithic Iranian Farmer related DNA has nothing to do with the ASI. It is acutally the other way. ASI is a mixture of many components. Iranian Farmer DNA is very ancient and is native to Kurds.


ASI has evolved from Dravidian AASI or ancestral ASI.

https://i.postimg.cc/1XHZtjkL/acd.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/ZnZXNLZp/ace.jpg