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Abdelnour
03-29-2019, 01:12 PM
https://i.ibb.co/ygCHWVL/Screenshot-20190329-090513-Chrome.jpg

I'll run GEDmatch sometime this week or next for further details. I am a little busy at work. F5i

Nazarene
03-29-2019, 01:14 PM
Congrats!

Leto
03-29-2019, 01:22 PM
Nice results. There was a Palestinian the other day, he got 95% Middle Eastern and 5% Turkey & the Caucasus
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?281734-Ancestry-DNA-Results

Abdelnour
03-29-2019, 01:33 PM
Nice results. There was a Palestinian the other day, he got 95% Middle Eastern and 5% Turkey & the Caucasus
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?281734-Ancestry-DNA-Results

Yeah, I look at a lot of Lebanese and Palestinians results and they are similiar but with Palestinians being more NA/Arabian.

My sister took 23andme results earlier and she had 87% West Asian(all from Lebanon/Syria) and 13% North African/Arabia but that was not specified. I thought that the NA came from Jordan but my Mother's family grew up in Egypt so that were some came from.

Leto
03-29-2019, 01:37 PM
Yeah, I look at a lot of Lebanese and Palestinians results and they are similiar but with Palestinians being more NA/Arabian.

My sister took 23andme results earlier and she had 87% West Asian(all from Lebanon/Syria) and 13% North African/Arabia but that was not specified. I thought that the NA came from Jordan but my Mother's family grew up in Egypt so that were some came from.
Do you have Muslim ancestry (you know what I mean)?

Abdelnour
03-29-2019, 01:44 PM
Do you have Muslim ancestry (you know what I mean)?

No, we are all Maronite and Melkite. What my mother told me was that Alexanderia, where she grew up, was a multi ethnic society of Syrians, Armens, Greeks, etc.. but was all kicked out by the time Nasser took to power.

My mother's sister married a Muslim from Egypt. Her son was actually 15 years older than I was and came to America to visit. He stayed in my room and sometimes I would see him pray around 4 or 5 in the morning while I would be waking up.

waam
03-29-2019, 02:08 PM
I really think they should be working on a Levantine population already instead of assigning Levantines with large chunks of Caucasian.

Haider
03-29-2019, 05:46 PM
Interesting that you score no Greek/Italian, afaik most Levantines do.

waam
03-29-2019, 06:58 PM
Interesting that you score no Greek/Italian, afaik most Levantines do.As far as I know they fixed that after the update. Now they score a mix of Middle East and the Caucasus.

Abdelnour
03-29-2019, 07:07 PM
As far as I know they fixed that after the update. Now they score a mix of Middle East and the Caucasus.

Yeah, my closet genetic relatives score Italian and Greek, but thier matches haven't been updated yet.

I think Turkey/Caucasus score is pretty typical though I did see some score 54% Turkey/Caucasus. Not sure where they were from.

I should be able to download my raw data when I come home and hopefully I can get my GED results soon.

waam
03-29-2019, 07:53 PM
Yeah, my closet genetic relatives score Italian and Greek, but thier matches haven't been updated yet.

I think Turkey/Caucasus score is pretty typical though I did see some score 54% Turkey/Caucasus. Not sure where they were from.

I should be able to download my raw data when I come home and hopefully I can get my GED results soon.

Yeah Turkey/Caucasus is very typical for Levantines to score with Ancestry, which is why I think they should create a separate category for the Levant instead of have them split between Middle Eastern and Caucasian as if it's a GEDmatch oracle and not an ancestry test.

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 03:35 AM
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.97
2 Southwest_Asian 22.78
3 Atlantic_Med 16.25
4 Gedrosia 12.45
5 Northwest_African 4.86
6 North_European 1.75
7 Southeast_Asian 0.84
8 East_African 0.77
9 Siberian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.42
2 Syrians (Behar) 8.23
3 Jordanians (Behar) 9.37
4 Druze (HGDP) 10.01
5 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 11.29
6 Palestinian (HGDP) 11.77
7 Cypriots (Behar) 12.62
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.27
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 13.76
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.83
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.84
12 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 15.22
13 Samaritians (Behar) 15.28
14 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.3
15 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.3
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.53
17 Turks (Behar) 16.79
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.34
19 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.7
20 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 42.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
2 93.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 6.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 3.41
3 52.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 47.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.48
4 80.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 19.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.53
5 94.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.3% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.84
6 80.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 19.9% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.01
7 55.5% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 44.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.04
8 94.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.1% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 4.1
9 78.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 21.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.11
10 81.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 18.2% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.11
11 93.3% Lebanese (Behar) + 6.7% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 4.19
12 81.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 18.1% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.23
13 94.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.9% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 4.27
14 93.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 6.1% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 4.28
15 94.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.9% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 4.29
16 93.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 6.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.32
17 82.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 17.3% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 4.34
18 94.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.9% Spaniards (Behar) @ 4.37
19 94.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.6% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 4.39
20 94.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 5.9% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 4.39

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 03:36 AM
Dodecad V3 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.58
2 Mediterranean 30.53
3 Southwest_Asian 21.3
4 West_European 6.09
5 Northwest_African 3.61
6 South_Asian 2.3
7 East_African 2.08
8 Southeast_Asian 0.43
9 Northeast_Asian 0.06
10 East_European 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritians (Behar) 6.54
2 Lebanese (Behar) 6.61
3 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6.98
4 Druze (HGDP) 7.6
5 Palestinian (HGDP) 7.75
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 8.64
7 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 8.75
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 9.94
9 Jordanians_19 (Behar) 10.55
10 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 10.56
11 Syrians (Behar) 10.6
12 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 13.31
13 Cypriots (Behar) 13.93
14 Kurd (Xing) 14.79
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 15.18
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.56
17 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.68
18 Kurd (Dodecad) 16.7
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.91
20 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 38.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.36
2 71.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 28.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.76
3 67.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 32.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.08
4 61.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 38.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.2
5 75.8% Samaritians (Behar) + 24.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 3.35
6 91% Samaritians (Behar) + 9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.45
7 90.8% Samaritians (Behar) + 9.2% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 3.45
8 74.9% Samaritians (Behar) + 25.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 3.49
9 91.3% Samaritians (Behar) + 8.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.49
10 87.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 12.4% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 3.49
11 90.5% Samaritians (Behar) + 9.5% N._European (Xing) @ 3.5
12 90.9% Samaritians (Behar) + 9.1% Orkney (1000 Genomes) @ 3.5
13 91.5% Samaritians (Behar) + 8.5% Kent (1000 Genomes) @ 3.51
14 90.9% Samaritians (Behar) + 9.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.51
15 83% Samaritians (Behar) + 17% Stalskoe (Xing) @ 3.51
16 91.8% Samaritians (Behar) + 8.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.52
17 90.6% Samaritians (Behar) + 9.4% CEU (HapMap) @ 3.53
18 91.8% Samaritians (Behar) + 8.2% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) @ 3.53
19 91.8% Samaritians (Behar) + 8.2% British (Dodecad) @ 3.53
20 92% Samaritians (Behar) + 8% Irish (Dodecad) @ 3.54

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 03:38 AM
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 43.48
2 West_Asian 20.61
3 West_Med 13.44
4 Red_Sea 12.4
5 North_Atlantic 5.9
6 Northeast_African 1.46
7 East_Asian 1.22
8 South_Asian 1.21
9 Oceanian 0.25
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 4.93
2 Lebanese_Christian 5.41
3 Samaritan 5.62
4 Lebanese_Druze 6.17
5 Syrian 6.53
6 Palestinian 7.09
7 Cyprian 8
8 Jordanian 8.39
9 Kurdish_Jewish 10.56
10 Iranian_Jewish 11.09
11 Tunisian_Jewish 11.29
12 Libyan_Jewish 12.09
13 Assyrian 12.84
14 Bedouin 13.51
15 Sephardic_Jewish 13.94
16 Italian_Jewish 15.53
17 Algerian_Jewish 15.81
18 Georgian_Jewish 16.4
19 Turkish 17.73
20 Ashkenazi 18.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% West_Scottish @ 2.84
2 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Irish @ 2.86
3 92.8% Lebanese_Christian + 7.2% Southwest_English @ 2.93
4 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Orcadian @ 2.95
5 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Danish @ 2.97
6 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% North_Dutch @ 2.97
7 93.2% Lebanese_Christian + 6.8% Norwegian @ 3
8 92.8% Lebanese_Christian + 7.2% Southeast_English @ 3.01
9 92.7% Lebanese_Christian + 7.3% North_German @ 3.02
10 51.8% Lebanese_Druze + 48.2% Syrian @ 3.11
11 92.2% Lebanese_Christian + 7.8% South_Dutch @ 3.12
12 92% Lebanese_Christian + 8% West_German @ 3.12
13 93.3% Lebanese_Christian + 6.7% Swedish @ 3.12
14 91.7% Lebanese_Christian + 8.3% French @ 3.19
15 53.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 46.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.28
16 59% Lebanese_Muslim + 41% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.4
17 93.6% Lebanese_Christian + 6.4% North_Swedish @ 3.4
18 55.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 44.4% Samaritan @ 3.41
19 91.8% Lebanese_Christian + 8.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.46
20 85% Lebanese_Christian + 15% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.48

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 03:41 AM
If there is any other test kits you recommend, let me know.

waam
03-30-2019, 10:27 AM
If it were still free I would have told you to upload your raw data to MyHeritage. They are by no means the golden standard for accuracy but Levantines always score lots of Jewish so it's interesting for me to see lol. This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb5GTsFJqGs)Lebanese girl scored 42.6% Jewish overall.

Leto
03-30-2019, 11:12 AM
If there is any other test kits you recommend, let me know.
MDLP K23b
You seem to be a little bit shifted towards Europe.

Leto
03-30-2019, 11:15 AM
Also, you can try this Y-DNA predictor. It tends to be accurate for most people.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?251096-Post-your-Y-DNA-prediction&p=5256053#post5256053

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 12:01 PM
If it were still free I would have told you to upload your raw data to MyHeritage. They are by no means the golden standard for accuracy but Levantines always score lots of Jewish so it's interesting for me to see lol. This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb5GTsFJqGs)Lebanese girl scored 42.6% Jewish overall.

I just uploaded my data to MyHeritage and it says it will take a couple of days to finish. It wouldn't surprised me if they have an unlocking price at the end when it is ready.

TBH, I am surprised by my results. Some calculators have me as a 2 population model as 50% Georgian Jew + 50% Algerian Jew. I may had some recent Sephardic/Ashkenazi ancestry but I am not sure, as my mom always told us that we were Lebanese/Syrian.

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 12:03 PM
MDLP K23b
You seem to be a little bit shifted towards Europe.

I notice that too, plus I am noticing a little higher West Asian.

Here again, my first match is Syrian Jew :p

Anyways, here it is. My Kit #FV1005974

MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.04
2 Near_East 18.37
3 European_Early_Farmers 16.38
4 South_Central_Asian 12.21
5 North_African 8.37
6 Austronesian 1.46
7 Arctic 1.16


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrian_Jew_ @ 4.745323
2 Lebanese_Muslim_ @ 7.530723
3 Lebanese_ @ 8.088391
4 Cypriot_ @ 8.778210
5 Samaritian_ @ 9.811233
6 Lebanese_Druze_ @ 10.042166
7 Assyrian_Iraqi_ @ 10.353252
8 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 10.394835
9 Lebanese_Christian_ @ 10.726390
10 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 11.099467
11 Iraqi_Jew_ @ 11.537964
12 Muslim_Arabs_Israel_ @ 11.579664
13 Turk_Jew_ @ 11.613763
14 Turk_Adana_ @ 11.928171
15 Italian_Jew_ @ 12.515013
16 Christian_Arabs_Israel_ @ 12.550952
17 Tunisian_Jew_ @ 12.828395
18 Palestinian_ @ 12.925388
19 Syrian_ @ 12.929993
20 Moroccan_Jew_ @ 13.014682

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian_Iraqi_ +50% Tunisian_Jew_ @ 3.796207


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian_Iraqi_ +25% Libyan_Jew_ +25% Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.713655


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++
1 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Moroccan_Jew_ + Samaritian_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.464870
2 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 3.479391
3 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Samaritian_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.553630
4 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 3.563571
5 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Samaritian_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.566939
6 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Tunisian_Jew_ @ 3.586673
7 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 3.590564
8 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Cypriot_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Muslim_Arabs_Israel_ @ 3.609438
9 Iraqi_Jew_ + Kurd_Jew_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 3.625090
10 Iraqi_Jew_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 3.626254
11 Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Tunisian_Jew_ @ 3.629738
12 Iranian_Jew_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 3.630829
13 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Moroccan_Jew_ @ 3.637508
14 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Syrian_Jew_ @ 3.639457
15 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iraqi_Chaldean_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Tunisian_Jew_ @ 3.653027
16 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iraqi_Jew_ + Moroccan_Jew_ + Tunisian_Jew_ @ 3.681782
17 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Cypriot_ + Moroccan_Jew_ + Muslim_Arabs_Israel_ @ 3.683247
18 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Kurd_Jew_ + Libyan_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ @ 3.686712
19 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iranian_Jew_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Tunisian_Jew_ @ 3.690263
20 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Iraqi_Mandean_ + Sephardic_Jew_ + Tunisian_Jew_ @ 3.705970

Done.

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 12:12 PM
Also, you can try this Y-DNA predictor. It tends to be accurate for most people.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?251096-Post-your-Y-DNA-prediction&p=5256053#post5256053

Here it is:

(most likely)
L1b1a
L-M349

L
L-PF5821 (L-PAGES00121, L-PF5516)

A1
A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)

J2a1i
J2-L88 (J2-L198)

N1a
N-M96 (N-CTS7095, N-P189)

I guess I have L1b1a/L-M349 haplogroup.

waam
03-30-2019, 12:19 PM
I just uploaded my data to MyHeritage and it says it will take a couple of days to finish. It wouldn't surprised me if they have an unlocking price at the end when it is ready.

TBH, I am surprised by my results. Some calculators have me as a 2 population model as 50% Georgian Jew + 50% Algerian Jew. I may had some recent Sephardic/Ashkenazi ancestry but I am not sure, as my mom always told us that we were Lebanese/Syrian.They started charging for the ethnicity estimate as far as I know. The free upload provides you with DNA matches only I believe.

Leto
03-30-2019, 12:23 PM
Here it is:

(most likely)
L1b1a
L-M349

L
L-PF5821 (L-PAGES00121, L-PF5516)

A1
A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)

J2a1i
J2-L88 (J2-L198)

N1a
N-M96 (N-CTS7095, N-P189)

I guess I have L1b1a/L-M349 haplogroup.
Quite rare. I don't know much about it. Iran, Pakistan, Caucasus, I believe.

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 12:23 PM
They started charging for the ethnicity estimate as far as I know. The free upload provides you with DNA matches only I believe.

Ok. I did upload my data to FTDNA and LivingDNA. FTDNA, I believe you have to pay for anyways, but I may wait on that in a couple of weeks when I have 20 or so dollars to burn.

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 12:27 PM
Quite rare. I don't know much about it. Iran, Pakistan, Caucasus, I believe.

Makes sense, as I score 2% South Asian in some calculators.

In Wikipedia, it says that L-M349 is principally found in Europe.[citation needed]. I am going to look into this Haplogroup because I was expecting either J1/J2, E1b1b, or other typical MENA like haplogroups.

waam
03-30-2019, 12:28 PM
Ok. I did upload my data to FTDNA and LivingDNA. FTDNA, I believe you have to pay for anyways, but I may wait on that in a couple of weeks when I have 20 or so dollars to burn.Cool. From my experience with Lebanese FTDNA results I predict you'd probably score lots of Asia Minor and the second largest component after that would be Sephardic.

Leto
03-30-2019, 12:29 PM
Your African is very minor. Most Portuguese people get twice as much.
From MDLP World:
Sub_Saharian 1.63 Pct

Abdelnour
03-30-2019, 12:36 PM
Your African is very minor. Most Portuguese people get twice as much.
From MDLP World:
Sub_Saharian 1.63 Pct

With 1.63% SSA, I want to receive Affirmative Action dammit! :D

Leto
03-30-2019, 12:49 PM
puntDNAL K13 Global seems the most accurate

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 2.74
2 Lebanese_Druze 3.26
3 Lebanese_Muslim 3.58
4 Syrian 4.4
5 Jordanian 6.93
6 Samaritan_Jew 8.03
7 Cypriot 8.12
8 Palestinian 8.98
9 Assyrian 9.16
10 Armenian 10.66

Lebanon strong!

Pine
03-30-2019, 07:56 PM
Ok. I did upload my data to FTDNA and LivingDNA. FTDNA, I believe you have to pay for anyways, but I may wait on that in a couple of weeks when I have 20 or so dollars to burn.

I thought LivingDNA hadn't taken uploads for a while

Pine
03-30-2019, 07:59 PM
Cool. From my experience with Lebanese FTDNA results I predict you'd probably score lots of Asia Minor and the second largest component after that would be Sephardic.

I scored a lot of Asia Minor on FTDNA.

Pine
03-30-2019, 08:03 PM
How did you get the AncestryDNA Traits to show up? I can't find them.

waam
03-30-2019, 08:07 PM
I scored a lot of Asia Minor on FTDNA.Can you share your results?

Pine
03-30-2019, 08:17 PM
Can you share your results?

Ashkenazi: 87%
Asia Minor: 9%
Southeast Europe: <2%
West Middle East: <2%
North Africa: <2%
Southeast Asia: <1%

Leto
03-30-2019, 09:10 PM
@Abdelnour, do you look Middle Eastern or European? K15 models you as ~5% Western European.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 45.28
2 West_Asian 18.96
3 Red_Sea 11.59
4 West_Med 10.49
5 Atlantic 4.25
6 North_Sea 3.46
7 Baltic 1.9
8 Northeast_African 1.63
9 South_Asian 1.25
10 Southeast_Asian 1.03
11 Oceanian 0.12
12 Eastern_Euro 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 3.58
2 Samaritan 4.56
3 Lebanese_Druze 5.55
4 Lebanese_Muslim 6.04
5 Syrian 7.29
6 Palestinian 7.5
7 Cyprian 8.17
8 Jordanian 8.85
9 Kurdish_Jewish 9.4
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.4
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.06
12 Assyrian 12.55
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.66
14 Bedouin 13.97
15 Sephardic_Jewish 14.79
16 Italian_Jewish 15.85
17 Algerian_Jewish 16.02
18 Georgian_Jewish 16.74
19 Turkish 18.79
20 South_Italian 19.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% Irish @ 1.91
2 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% West_Scottish @ 1.92
3 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% North_Dutch @ 1.93
4 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% Danish @ 1.93
5 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% Orcadian @ 1.93
6 94.6% Lebanese_Christian + 5.4% North_German @ 1.94
7 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% Swedish @ 1.94
8 95% Lebanese_Christian + 5% West_Norwegian @ 1.95
9 94.7% Lebanese_Christian + 5.3% Southeast_English @ 1.96
10 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% Norwegian @ 1.97
11 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% La_Brana-1 @ 1.99
12 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% Southwest_English @ 2.02
13 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% West_German @ 2.03
14 95% Lebanese_Christian + 5% North_Swedish @ 2.04
15 94.4% Lebanese_Christian + 5.6% South_Dutch @ 2.07
16 95.1% Lebanese_Christian + 4.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.16
17 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% French @ 2.17
18 94.6% Lebanese_Christian + 5.4% East_German @ 2.21
19 95.1% Lebanese_Christian + 4.9% Finnish @ 2.21
20 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% Austrian @ 2.23

Abdelnour
03-31-2019, 12:42 PM
@Abdelnour, do you look Middle Eastern or European? K15 models you as ~5% Western European.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 45.28
2 West_Asian 18.96
3 Red_Sea 11.59
4 West_Med 10.49
5 Atlantic 4.25
6 North_Sea 3.46
7 Baltic 1.9
8 Northeast_African 1.63
9 South_Asian 1.25
10 Southeast_Asian 1.03
11 Oceanian 0.12
12 Eastern_Euro 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 3.58
2 Samaritan 4.56
3 Lebanese_Druze 5.55
4 Lebanese_Muslim 6.04
5 Syrian 7.29
6 Palestinian 7.5
7 Cyprian 8.17
8 Jordanian 8.85
9 Kurdish_Jewish 9.4
10 Iranian_Jewish 10.4
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.06
12 Assyrian 12.55
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.66
14 Bedouin 13.97
15 Sephardic_Jewish 14.79
16 Italian_Jewish 15.85
17 Algerian_Jewish 16.02
18 Georgian_Jewish 16.74
19 Turkish 18.79
20 South_Italian 19.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% Irish @ 1.91
2 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% West_Scottish @ 1.92
3 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% North_Dutch @ 1.93
4 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% Danish @ 1.93
5 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% Orcadian @ 1.93
6 94.6% Lebanese_Christian + 5.4% North_German @ 1.94
7 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% Swedish @ 1.94
8 95% Lebanese_Christian + 5% West_Norwegian @ 1.95
9 94.7% Lebanese_Christian + 5.3% Southeast_English @ 1.96
10 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% Norwegian @ 1.97
11 94.9% Lebanese_Christian + 5.1% La_Brana-1 @ 1.99
12 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% Southwest_English @ 2.02
13 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% West_German @ 2.03
14 95% Lebanese_Christian + 5% North_Swedish @ 2.04
15 94.4% Lebanese_Christian + 5.6% South_Dutch @ 2.07
16 95.1% Lebanese_Christian + 4.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.16
17 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% French @ 2.17
18 94.6% Lebanese_Christian + 5.4% East_German @ 2.21
19 95.1% Lebanese_Christian + 4.9% Finnish @ 2.21
20 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% Austrian @ 2.23

Leto, I sent you a PM of my profile.

waam
03-31-2019, 01:10 PM
Very doubtful 5% Western European is what would affect her looks. I don't know what you look like but even if you do look European it certainly wouldn't come from that 5%.

Abdelnour
03-31-2019, 01:44 PM
Very doubtful 5% Western European is what would affect her looks. I don't know what you look like but even if you do look European it certainly wouldn't come from that 5%.

I got classified as Egyptian so I don't think 5% made a difference.

To give you an update on MyHeritage, my results are in. The bad news is that I have pay $29 dollars to "unlock" my results.

I will probably pay for that and not FTDNA.

Abdelnour
03-31-2019, 02:13 PM
Anyways, GEDMatch map + Plot Map:

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 8.88 Pct
Armenian 7.50 Pct
Basque 0.12 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.57 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.25 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 32.59 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 2.17 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.89 Pct
Malayan 0.35 Pct
Near_Eastern 28.27 Pct
North_African 0.79 Pct
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 2.96 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.44 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.60 Pct
West_Med 2.63 Pct

https://i.imgur.com/rlRXw3A.png
https://i.imgur.com/fegp24O.png
https://i.imgur.com/sdZfwuq.png

Leto
03-31-2019, 02:21 PM
For some reason you don't get a value above 80 in any region.

waam
03-31-2019, 02:56 PM
I got classified as Egyptian so I don't think 5% made a difference.

To give you an update on MyHeritage, my results are in. The bad news is that I have pay $29 dollars to "unlock" my results.

I will probably pay for that and not FTDNA.Yeah it's a bummer they started charging for that. Be sure to update once you decide to unlock them, curious to see.

Lemgrant
03-31-2019, 03:26 PM
Anyways, GEDMatch map + Plot Map:

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 8.88 Pct
Armenian 7.50 Pct
Basque 0.12 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.57 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.25 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 32.59 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 2.17 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.89 Pct
Malayan 0.35 Pct
Near_Eastern 28.27 Pct
North_African 0.79 Pct
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 2.96 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.44 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.60 Pct
West_Med 2.63 Pct

https://i.imgur.com/rlRXw3A.png
https://i.imgur.com/fegp24O.png
https://i.imgur.com/sdZfwuq.png

with 30% Druze removed:

https://i.imgur.com/FApVV2b.png

Levant15
04-01-2019, 03:49 AM
What's your background? Full Lebanese Christian?

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Nazarene
04-01-2019, 04:07 AM
Maronite or Rum?

happycow
04-01-2019, 04:11 AM
Cool results :)

Nazarene
04-01-2019, 04:13 AM
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 43.48
2 West_Asian 20.61
3 West_Med 13.44
4 Red_Sea 12.4
5 North_Atlantic 5.9
6 Northeast_African 1.46
7 East_Asian 1.22
8 South_Asian 1.21
9 Oceanian 0.25
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 4.93
2 Lebanese_Christian 5.41
3 Samaritan 5.62
4 Lebanese_Druze 6.17
5 Syrian 6.53
6 Palestinian 7.09
7 Cyprian 8
8 Jordanian 8.39
9 Kurdish_Jewish 10.56
10 Iranian_Jewish 11.09
11 Tunisian_Jewish 11.29
12 Libyan_Jewish 12.09
13 Assyrian 12.84
14 Bedouin 13.51
15 Sephardic_Jewish 13.94
16 Italian_Jewish 15.53
17 Algerian_Jewish 15.81
18 Georgian_Jewish 16.4
19 Turkish 17.73
20 Ashkenazi 18.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% West_Scottish @ 2.84
2 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Irish @ 2.86
3 92.8% Lebanese_Christian + 7.2% Southwest_English @ 2.93
4 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Orcadian @ 2.95
5 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% Danish @ 2.97
6 92.9% Lebanese_Christian + 7.1% North_Dutch @ 2.97
7 93.2% Lebanese_Christian + 6.8% Norwegian @ 3
8 92.8% Lebanese_Christian + 7.2% Southeast_English @ 3.01
9 92.7% Lebanese_Christian + 7.3% North_German @ 3.02
10 51.8% Lebanese_Druze + 48.2% Syrian @ 3.11
11 92.2% Lebanese_Christian + 7.8% South_Dutch @ 3.12
12 92% Lebanese_Christian + 8% West_German @ 3.12
13 93.3% Lebanese_Christian + 6.7% Swedish @ 3.12
14 91.7% Lebanese_Christian + 8.3% French @ 3.19
15 53.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 46.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.28
16 59% Lebanese_Muslim + 41% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.4
17 93.6% Lebanese_Christian + 6.4% North_Swedish @ 3.4
18 55.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 44.4% Samaritan @ 3.41
19 91.8% Lebanese_Christian + 8.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.46
20 85% Lebanese_Christian + 15% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.48

Typical Levantine Christian, respect

Abdelnour
04-01-2019, 10:43 AM
What's your background? Full Lebanese Christian?

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Yeah. Though we were told about the ceusader ancestor story(from Savoy, France), which could explain the extra western euro.

Abdelnour
04-01-2019, 10:45 AM
Maronite or Rum?

Mix I guess. My dad told me we were Rum/Melkite, and the Catholics in Egypt during the time my mom was growing up was Rum. However, I think it is more of a mix between Maronite/Melkitem

Nazarene
04-01-2019, 10:47 AM
Mix I guess. My dad told me we were Rum/Melkite, and the Catholics in Egypt during the time my mom was growing up was Rum. However, I think it is more of a mix between Maronite/Melkitem

Ah so your family is part of the Levantine Christians who moved to Egypt a couple hundred years ago? Rum and Maronites seem to be genetically identical anyways lmao.

Abdelnour
04-01-2019, 10:56 AM
Ah so your family is part of the Levantine Christians who moved to Egypt a couple hundred years ago? Rum and Maronites seem to be genetically identical anyways lmao.

Yeah, my mom told that her grandparents moved because locust ate up the farmland at the time in Lebanon.

Abdelnour
04-03-2019, 03:07 PM
Yeah it's a bummer they started charging for that. Be sure to update once you decide to unlock them, curious to see.

Here are my My Heritage results:

https://i.ibb.co/8rfPB37/Screenshot-20190403-110344-Adblock-Browser.jpg (https://ibb.co/8rfPB37)

waam
04-03-2019, 04:22 PM
Here are my My Heritage results:

https://i.ibb.co/8rfPB37/Screenshot-20190403-110344-Adblock-Browser.jpg (https://ibb.co/8rfPB37)Thanks! Scoring some Jewish as expected. What did you score in the European section? Guessing some sort of Southern European mix.

Abdelnour
04-03-2019, 04:34 PM
Thanks! Scoring some Jewish as expected. What did you score in the European section? Guessing some sort of Southern European mix.

I made the image a clickable link, though the uploading app sucks lol.

Anyways 9.4 Greek and .9 Ashkenazi

Levant15
04-03-2019, 04:44 PM
Here are my My Heritage results:

https://i.ibb.co/8rfPB37/Screenshot-20190403-110344-Adblock-Browser.jpg (https://ibb.co/8rfPB37)Looks same as my 23andme kit.
I'm Greek Orthodox Palestinian.


Interestingly enough when I use AncestryDNA kit, Sephardic north African changes to just north African. And some of the west Asian splits into Mizrahi Jewish. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190403/15ebbc427edbda24c3f669a1f5c0e1ca.jpg

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waam
04-03-2019, 05:29 PM
I made the image a clickable link, though the uploading app sucks lol.

Anyways 9.4 Greek and .9 Ashkenazi
Yeah kinda missed that lol. Thanks.


Looks same as my 23andme kit.
I'm Greek Orthodox Palestinian.


Interestingly enough when I use AncestryDNA kit, Sephardic north African changes to just north African. And some of the west Asian splits into Mizrahi Jewish.

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I'm guessing both are just interchangeable for Levantines. As in it detects you share ancestry with Jews in general (Be it Sephardic or Mizrahi) but one time it assigned it to the first and the other it assigned it to the latter without any particular reason, because you share ancestry with both groups. Similar to how Italian and Greek are interchangeable with MyHeritage.

Actually I can use my own results to demonstrate, I score 44% Sephardi despite having only 25% of my ancestry from North Africa in actuality.

thelevantineacadian
07-02-2019, 11:48 PM
My grandpa is full Syrian and my grandmother is 1/3 so I ended up with 14% Middle Eastern and 6% Turkey and the Caucasus results on ancestry.

Rabbit Hole
05-02-2020, 12:36 PM
No, we are all Maronite and Melkite. What my mother told me was that Alexanderia, where she grew up, was a multi ethnic society of Syrians, Armens, Greeks, etc.. but was all kicked out by the time Nasser took to power.

My mother's sister married a Muslim from Egypt. Her son was actually 15 years older than I was and came to America to visit. He stayed in my room and sometimes I would see him pray around 4 or 5 in the morning while I would be waking up.

You mean the guy that beat Israel with nobility and kicked out the Israelis? Nice non indigenous result. Oi vey.

Rabbit Hole
05-02-2020, 12:42 PM
Do you have Muslim ancestry (you know what I mean)?

Near Eastern Muslims ( Lebanese Syrian etc ) are more European than the Christians Lebanese Muslim and Syrian samples are placed next to Greek Cypriots and pre Mongolic Turkish from North Cyprus aka ''Levantine'' where as the Lebanese Christians especially the ones who are Maronite and have Assyrian origin are placed next to Jews.

1. Cyprian (6.107)
2. Lebanese_Muslim (8.705)

^^^^^Bronze age Levant real Levant
VVVVVVCrappy Semitic Levant
3. Sephardic_Jewish (11.08)
4. Syrian (11.52)
5. Lebanese_Christian (12.36)
6. Samaritan (12.89)
7. Assyrian (12.94)
8. Kurdish_Jewish (13.53)