Post matched segments with Vucedol Bronze Age / Proto Ilyrian

[North Sea]

I compared my results with kits I match on gedmatch and I seem to get the highest match with this


Add SNP to 50 and CM 1

Largest segment = 3.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 113.0 cM (3.170 Pct)

66 shared segments found for this comparison.

145170 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.323 Pct SNPs are full identical

[Ylla]

No shared dna segments found same with iron age bulgaria
XD

[Moje ime]

on 50 SNP

Largest segment = 3.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 74.9 cM (2.102 Pct)

45 shared segments found for this comparison.

141062 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.360 Pct SNPs are full identical

[Bosniensis]

...

can you post gedmatch kit again

[Moje ime]

Segment size shows more related match as far as I know.

[Ford]

Largest segment = 3.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 86.7 cM (2.434 Pct)

53 shared segments found for this comparison.

141154 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.382 Pct SNPs are full identical

[karakartal]

Could you please look for me? I'm not good this thing.

My kit number is T337705

Thanks

[Moje ime]

can you post gedmatch kit again

kit number JM8436604

[North Sea]

No shared dna segments found same with iron age bulgaria
XD

give me your kit number , I will do it for you . are you sure you did it correct ?

[karakartal]

give me your kit number , I will do it for you . are you sure you did it correct ?

could you please do it for me? T337705

[Bosniensis]

Largest segment = 3.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 77.4 cM (2.173 Pct)

47 shared segments found for this comparison.

140481 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.441 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.206 seconds.
CPU time used: 0.027 cpu seconds.

[North Sea]

on 50 SNP

Largest segment = 3.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 74.9 cM (2.102 Pct)

45 shared segments found for this comparison.

141062 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.360 Pct SNPs are full identical

That makes no sense. Shared segments I asume is actual match.

[Moje ime]

That makes no sense.

It has. Larger segment - more related.

[Moje ime]

That Albanian guy who claims having the same haplogroup has largest segment, so it makes sense that he is most related.

[North Sea]

could you please do it for me? T337705

Largest segment = 3.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 91.0 cM (2.554 Pct)

57 shared segments found for this comparison.

144149 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.869 Pct SNPs are full identical

[karakartal]

Largest segment = 3.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 91.0 cM (2.554 Pct)

57 shared segments found for this comparison.

144149 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.869 Pct SNPs are full identical

my grandmother's mother from albania. hell yeah

[North Sea]

It has. Larger segment - more related.

It only includes one segment though. You need to look at all the shared segments all together I assumed.

[Moje ime]

It only includes one segment though. You need to look at all the shared segments all together I assumed.

I learned that from finding matches on MyHeritage, they always put as more possible related match someone with larger segment.

[North Sea]

No shared dna segments found same with iron age bulgaria
XD

You definitely did it wrong lol ... your results

Largest segment = 4.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 94.9 cM (2.664 Pct)

64 shared segments found for this comparison.

204304 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.676 Pct SNPs are full identical

[North Sea]

I learned that from finding matches on MyHeritage, they always put as more possible related match someone with larger segment.

How does that even work ?

[Moje ime]

How does that even work ?

What? The search?

[HungryLion]

why would I want to be close to excavation O.o? None of mine has this hsplogroup

[Chaos One]

Largest segment = 3.8 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 76.4 cM (2.143 Pct)

48 shared segments found for this comparison.

[North Sea]

What? The search?

No . a single segment determining who is closest to this sample. There isnt much difference between a person that gets a largest segment of 3.1 and one of 3.3 .... one would think overall matched segments is what determines closeness then ... also on half matched segments I got this

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 113.0 cM (3.170 Pct)

[Kaspias]

No shared DNA segments found

[Moje ime]

No . a single segment determining who is closest to this sample. There isnt much difference between a person that gets a largest segment of 3.1 and one of 3.3 .... one would think overall matched segments is what determines closeness then ... also on half matched segments I got this Largest segment = 3.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 113.0 cM (3.170 Pct)

Probably one larger segment contains more unbroken DNA, smaller segments contains smaller parts of it. Makes sense.

[Ford]

No . a single segment determining who is closest to this sample. There isnt much difference between a person that gets a largest segment of 3.1 and one of 3.3 .... one would think overall matched segments is what determines closeness then ... also on half matched segments I got this

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 113.0 cM (3.170 Pct)

The larger the segment the lesser the probability of the match being noise. For example, you may share 100cM with a sample but most of that may actually be IBS (identical by state) and thus being "fake".

[North Sea]

You definitely did it wrong lol ... your results

Largest segment = 4.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 94.9 cM (2.664 Pct)

64 shared segments found for this comparison.

204304 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.676 Pct SNPs are full identical

So ** got the Largest segment by that logic she must be the closest lelllll




:rotfl:


She also got as high shared segments as I did .

[Ford]

The larger the segment the lesser the probability of the match being noise. For example, you may share 100cM with a sample but most of that may actually be IBS (identical by state) and thus being "fake".

An example: one of my closest matches on ftdna shares 50cM, with 21cM being the largest. This same match is on myheritage and there they only show that he matches with me on a 21cM size, thus also reducing the approximatimated relationship distance. The difference between ftdna and myheritage is that ftdna has a threshold of 1cM I think while myheritage has 7cM I think.

However, I should say that I don't know how applicable this is to ancient samples since they're very old and any actual match will be low regardless. Also, the lower number of shared SNPs on a segment, the lower the probability of it being "real".

[North Sea]

The larger the segment the lesser the probability of the match being noise. For example, you may share 100cM with a sample but most of that may actually be IBS (identical by state) and thus being "fake".

Yeah but the difference isn't large between one that gets 3.2 and one that gets 3.4 .. Someone would think overall matched segments determines closeness. If I get 66 matched segments and the average matched segment is like 3.0 and you get 45 and your average is 3.0 also ... one single segment doesnt determine closeness of few 0.3 difference ... but ok ... also half matched segments.

this sample also plots just West of me on PCA Map and similar Puntdnal results as I do, see my sig ... it isnt a coincidence that I got the highest shared segments but whatever you say ... I doubt it is noise ... and I doubt Serbs could be closer


Anyway I would say me and ** are the closest to this sample but she does have the largest matched segment but she also gets overall matched segments and half matched ... she seems close to this sample also ...

[Moje ime]

Yeah but the difference isn't large between one that gets 3.2 and one that gets 3.4 .. Someone would think overall matched segments determines closeness. If I get 66 matched segments and the average matched segment is like 3.0 and you get 45 and your average is 3.0 also ... one single segment doesnt determine closeness of few 0.3 difference ... but ok ... also half matched segments.

this sample also plots just West of me on PCA Map and similar Puntdnal results as I do, see my sig ... it isnt a coincidence that I got the highest shared segments but whatever you say ... I doubt it is noise ... and I doubt Serbs could be closer


Anyway I would say me and ** are the closest to this sample but she does have the largest matched segment but she also gets overall matched segments and half matched ... she seems close to this sample also ...

Yeah right but they are not that far as you thought :lol:

[karakartal]

Yeah right but they are not that far as you thought :lol:

What do you think about my result? Am i closer?

[Moje ime]

What do you think about my result? Am i closer?

no

[karakartal]

But am i share dna, right?

[Ford]

Yeah but the difference isn't large between one that gets 3.2 and one that gets 3.4 .. Someone would think overall matched segments determines closeness. If I get 66 matched segments and the average matched segment is like 3.0 and you get 45 and your average is 3.0 also ... one single segment doesnt determine closeness of few 0.3 difference ... but ok ... also half matched segments.
I agree.


this sample also plots just West of me on PCA Map and similar Puntdnal results as I do, see my sig ... it isnt a coincidence that I got the highest shared segments but whatever you say ... I doubt it is noise ... and I doubt Serbs could be closer
Well, all Albanians don't have to be closer to that sample and thus some Serbs will have a closer match compared to some Albanians. Also, it doesn't necessarily have to be related to how you plot.


Anyway I would say me and ** are the closest to this sample but she does have the largest matched segment but she also gets overall matched segments and half matched ... she seems close to this sample also ...
The easiest way to find out is to compare all matching segments, but you're probably right (especially **).

[North Sea]

According to this article I am reading what determines relationship is a combination of everything, even half matched segments it claims overall CM shared determines relationship also ... or half matched segments which I got really high of

http://whoareyoumadeof.com/blog/2018/11/07/total-centimorgans-shared-vs-shared-dna-segments/


Sharing longest segment with a person and if that longest segmemt is under 10 doesnt make you closer neccessarily ... when the difference isnt even that large to begin with ... overall CM and shared segments overall would also determine distant relationship if the longest segment isnt that long and under 10 .

Its only if the longest segment is really high like 50 that can determine close relationship ... for example if you have a shared longest segment of 50 and only few shared segments overall. you can bet you are closely related to that person . or if the longest segment is above 10.


What you are saying cannot really be applied to ancient samples.


sharing a lot of small segments that are under 10 with a sample and also a lot of CM can mean that you are distantly related.

In this case I share a lot of small segments with this sample 66 and a large chunk of overall CM , I asume we are distantly related ... a person that shares less small segments with this sample and has less overall CM isn't going to be closer related to such a sample because that person has a longer segment of only 0.3 ... but whatever ....



I think a combination of everything would determine relationship with these ancient samples when the longest shared segment is under 10

Anyway ** seems also pretty close ...


I saw an Albanian that got longest segment of 5 and one of 4 but none of them shared as many small segments or total CM as I did either

[North Sea]

Yeah right but they are not that far as you thought :lol:


Now you're just projecting.

We are closer than you thought xD Looks like your Caucasus theory went down the toilet xD And also that pre slavic people werent like Albanians and that Vlachs are different .... as for Serbs the Sample doesnt get Serb even on top 10 so they seem pretty distant actually ... I dont think South Slavic people are close to pre Slavic Balkan people except for some Bulgarians and Macedonians ... so my theory about what I wrote above stands pretty correct ... You dont want anything to do with Albanians but you wanna claim ancient Balkan people when they were like Albanians and spoke proto Albanian , funny xD


https://i.imgur.com/9g5qnUT.png






Makes sense I get high small segments with this sample and overall total CM ... this is what actually determines distant relationship when the longest swgment is under 10. Makes sense considering its autosomal results.



cya :lol:

[North Sea]

I compared my results with kits I match on gedmatch and I seem to get the highest match with this


Add SNP to 50 and CM 1

Largest segment = 3.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 113.0 cM (3.170 Pct)

66 shared segments found for this comparison.

145170 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.323 Pct SNPs are full identical



Sharing a lot of small segments under 10 and high cM = closer .


Lel. Makes sense .


So me and ** are the closest to this sample.

[Moje ime]

Now you're just projecting.

We are closer than you thought xD Looks like your Caucasus theory went down the toilet xD And also that pre slavic people werent like Albanians and that Vlachs are different .... as for Serbs the Sample doesnt get Serb even on top 10 so they seem pretty distant actually ... I dont think South Slavic people are close to pre Slavic Balkan people except for some Bulgarians and Macedonians ... so my theory about what I wrote above stands pretty correct ... You dont want anything to do with Albanians but you wanna claim ancient Balkan people when they were like Albanians and spoke proto Albanian , funny xD


https://i.imgur.com/9g5qnUT.png






Makes sense I get high small segments with this sample and overall total CM ... this is what actually determines distant relationship when the longest swgment is under 10. Makes sense considering its autosomal results.



cya :lol:

I'm not claiming Caucasus theory but this has nothing with that. All posters from this thread actually match this sample pretty equally in my opinion (if I don't joke). If you Albanians did got this match on default SNP and we Serbs no then it would be important difference, this way, on 50 SNPs and similar segment sizes is basically equal.

Also this has nothing with structure of paleo Balkan people, they were various, this is only one sample supposed to be proto Ilyrian.

On the other hand you can't take from us paleo Balkan heritage when it is clearly visible on all Serbian results when they are compared with eg. whatever other Slavic results.

[MagnusDark]

I match the Bronze Age Thracian better

Largest segment = 2.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 73.4 cM (2.061 Pct)

48 shared segments found for this comparison.

148645 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.578 Pct SNPs are full identical

[MagnusDark]

I notice the ancient Balkan samples have “Italian” in K36 between 30-40. Me and my father both get high atypical Italian. I get 31.4 almost the same as this Illyrian sample. My father gets 35. Both are atypical for entire south Europe with Tuscans reaching 26-28 in average. Perhaps some preserved admixture.


They’re closer to Albanians when concerning south east Europe. Now I see where my “Sardinian/Sourh west European” pull is coming from. The paleobalkan samples also had it.

See for yourself. It’s nearly identical admixture breakdown.

Me

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 40.67
2 NE_European 32.88
3 Caucasian 18.24
4 SW_Asian 6.88
5 Horn_Of_Africa 1.27
6 Omo_River 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Albanian 2.61
2 Tuscan 3.66
3 Italian 4.73
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.84
5 Montenegrin 6.96
6 Greek_Central 7.56
7 Bulgarian 8.98
8 Romanian 9.42
9 Macedonian 11.33
10 Portuguese 11.38
11 Ashkenazy_Jew 12.28
12 Spaniard 12.57
13 Sicilian 13.08
14 Brazilian 13.58
15 Bosnian 14.54
16 Sephardic_Jew 16.16
17 Serbian 17.28
18 French 18.13
19 Basque 18.96
20 South_German 21.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.9% Tuscan + 22.1% Spaniard @ 0.85
2 88.6% Albanian + 11.4% Basque @ 0.94
3 71.7% Greek_Central + 28.3% Basque @ 1.2
4 57.2% Tuscan + 42.8% Italian @ 1.39
5 85.2% Albanian + 14.8% Spaniard @ 1.46
6 86.5% Italian + 13.5% Cypriot @ 1.46
7 74.3% Italian + 25.7% Sicilian @ 1.46
8 85.1% Tuscan + 14.9% Basque @ 1.58
9 74.7% Spaniard + 25.3% Armenian @ 1.6
10 84.6% Albanian + 15.4% Portuguese @ 1.62
11 77.6% Tuscan + 22.4% Portuguese @ 1.69
12 69% Albanian + 31% Italian @ 1.7
13 78.5% Italian + 21.5% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.73
14 75.2% Spaniard + 24.8% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.74
15 77.2% Greek_Thessaly + 22.8% Basque @ 1.77
16 84.9% Tuscan + 15.1% French @ 1.78
17 73.7% Italian + 26.3% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 1.92
18 87.7% Tuscan + 12.3% Utahn_White @ 2.01
19 87.3% Tuscan + 12.7% South_German @ 2.02
20 91.6% Albanian + 8.4% French @ 2.02

puntDNAL K15 Oracle

Kit JM8436604 Illyrian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 42.28
2 NE_European 33.66
3 Caucasian 17.7
4 SW_Asian 5.51
5 Oceanian 0.55
6 Beringian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Albanian 4.86
2 Italian 4.88
3 Tuscan 5.38
4 Montenegrin 7.71
5 Greek_Thessaly 7.74
6 Greek_Central 9.32
7 Bulgarian 9.48
8 Romanian 9.78
9 Portuguese 10.49
10 Spaniard 11.72
11 Macedonian 11.78
12 Brazilian 13.74
13 Ashkenazy_Jew 13.86
14 Sicilian 14.39
15 Bosnian 15.18
16 Basque 17.23
17 Serbian 17.38
18 Sephardic_Jew 17.53
19 French 17.57
20 South_German 20.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.1% Greek_Central + 34.9% Basque @ 1.42
2 77.2% Tuscan + 22.8% Basque @ 1.82
3 79.9% Albanian + 20.1% Basque @ 2.27
4 69.8% Greek_Thessaly + 30.2% Basque @ 2.36
5 81.3% Spaniard + 18.7% Georgian @ 2.52
6 70.9% Tuscan + 29.1% Spaniard @ 2.66
7 77.3% Spaniard + 22.7% Turk_Trabzon @ 2.77
8 71.1% Basque + 28.9% Iranian @ 2.95
9 80.3% Spaniard + 19.7% Abkhasian @ 2.98
10 69.3% Tuscan + 30.7% Portuguese @ 3.01
11 77.1% Spaniard + 22.9% Armenian @ 3.22
12 69.2% Basque + 30.8% Kumyk @ 3.26
13 54.1% Italian + 45.9% Tuscan @ 3.27
14 88% Italian + 12% Sardinian @ 3.36
15 80% Italian + 20% Sicilian @ 3.39
16 76.5% Albanian + 23.5% Spaniard @ 3.43
17 89.6% Italian + 10.4% Cypriot @ 3.44
18 74.3% Albanian + 25.7% Portuguese @ 3.45
19 69.1% Basque + 30.9% Balkar @ 3.52
20 68.5% Basque + 31.5% Kurdish @ 3.53

[North Sea]

I'm not claiming Caucasus theory but this has nothing with that. All posters from this thread actually match this sample pretty equally in my opinion (if I don't joke). If you Albanians did got this match on default SNP and we Serbs no then it would be important difference, this way, on 50 SNPs and similar segment sizes is basically equal.

Also this has nothing with structure of paleo Balkan people, they were various, this is only one sample supposed to be proto Ilyrian.

On the other hand you can't take from us paleo Balkan heritage when it is clearly visible on all Serbian results when they are compared with eg. whatever other Slavic results.

I am not taking away paleo Balkan heritage its just funny when you pretend as if they were different people from us. We carry obvious Tuscan / Italian like ancestry from these samples.

We don't match it equally but whatever , Albanians I have seen get higher total cM with this sample , according to this article the higher the total cM the closer you are to someone .





The higher the number goes the closer you are to your match. It can go as high as 3,000cMs for a very close match such as a parent or a child.






https://www.myfamilydnatest.com/what-are-centimorgans/

Its also no coincidence that this sample is closer to us autosomally.

Mine: Total Half-Match segments (HIR) =113.0 cM (3.170 Pct)

** / Albanian girl : Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 94.9 cM (2.664 Pct)


Yours : Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 74.9 cM (2.102 Pct)


Largest segment literally means nothing when its below 10 ... its just your largest segment you had , it doesn't make you overall closer since you have less total cM or less amount of segments.

Pretty much every Albanian result I saw gets higher total cM than you and higher than most people here, because thats what actually determines closeness.

The statistics that page has put also only accounts for default and not 50 snp. As nobody is going to get that high cM on default with an ancient sample.


This is why a Serbian member here called Dick got a lower longest segment with a Bonze Age sample from Poland than I did yet he still had more shared segments and even larger cM which makes sense because henis autosomally more Slavic and should be closer to it.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?280027-Bronze-Age-Poland-with-R1a-haplogroup-GEDmatch-results&p=5920500#post5920500


I am not going to waste my time arguing but you are delusional , if we all matched this sample equally it wouldn't happen to be autosomally closer to Albanians and Italian ahifted like we are.




Now you're also claiming Skerdilaid pretends to be R1b L23 but before you would claim its a non Balkan haplogroup because it was Albanian .. now you're claiming we are lying . Lmao.

He isn't ''claiming'' but he is R1b and even matches other Albos on these forums , same for me being J2b2 .


Good bye for now.

[oszkar07]

I get this ...


Largest segment = 3.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 89.0 cM (2.497 Pct)

53 shared segments found for this comparison.

145115 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.066 Pct SNPs are full identical

[Impaler]

Largest segment = 4.9 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 15.0 cM (0.421 Pct)

4 shared segments found for this comparison.

[Ayetooey]

Largest segment = 2.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 57.1 cM (1.604 Pct)

[oszkar07]

Largest segment = 4.9 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 15.0 cM (0.421 Pct)

4 shared segments found for this comparison.

How does this actually work , am I closer to the sample than you ...

Largest segment = 3.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 89.0 cM (2.497 Pct)

53 shared segments found for this comparison.

145115 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.066 Pct SNPs are full identical

[Voskos]

I bet some slavs would match this illir to the highest,most unexpected levels.

[Ayetooey]

I bet some slavs would match this illir to the highest,most unexpected levels.

Probs Slovenes and North Croats. I get much higher matches on the Dalmatian samples than this one.

[Impaler]

How does this actually work , am I closer to the sample than you ...

Largest segment = 3.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 89.0 cM (2.497 Pct)

53 shared segments found for this comparison.

145115 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.066 Pct SNPs are full identical

I really don't know how this is working.

[Voskos]

For now OP beats all, 113cM. Pure illir.

[North Sea]

How does this actually work , am I closer to the sample than you ...

Largest segment = 3.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 89.0 cM (2.497 Pct)

53 shared segments found for this comparison.

145115 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.066 Pct SNPs are full identical

The guy gets a greater largest segment but his total cM is lower than yours and total shared segments, I wonder if he even put it on 50 snp and 1 cm.... your largest segment with this sample is greater than mine but I get larger total cM and more shared segments .

[Ayetooey]

Probs Slovenes and North Croats. I get much higher matches on the Dalmatian samples than this one.

My Dalmatian sample matches. My ancestors didn't bang as many Vucedol bitches it seems :D.

Largest segment = 4.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 348.8 cM (9.736 Pct)

And

Largest segment = 5.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 321.4 cM (8.971 Pct)

[North Sea]

I really don't know how this is working.

Send me your kit number , I will run your kit on this . Although I dont know how legit this is

[North Sea]

My Dalmatian sample matches. My ancestors didn't bang as many Vucedol bitches it seems :D.

Largest segment = 4.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 348.8 cM (9.736 Pct)

And

Largest segment = 5.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 321.4 cM (8.971 Pct)

Yeah I think you beat me on these xD

[Lemgrant]

For now OP beats all, 113cM. Pure illir.

it depends on the raw data used.

[Ayetooey]

Yeah I think you beat me on these xD

Yes, and I am only half Balkanite. My dad will get mega matches when I test him :D.

[Voskos]

Can you check this thessalian greek? Z829678

[North Sea]

Largest segment = 4.9 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 15.0 cM (0.421 Pct)

4 shared segments found for this comparison.

I ran your kit with 50 snp and 1 cm and this is what you got


Largest segment = 2.9 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 55.4 cM (1.556 Pct)

34 shared segments found for this comparison.

128425 SNPs used for this comparison.

50.848 Pct SNPs are full identical




It gave you a higher total cM and higher shared segments .


Other than that I have no idea how these things work either. xD

[North Sea]

it depends on the raw data used.

I am skeptical to these things although I agree but I know this sample is autosomally close to Albanians based on calculator results, it basically gets the same top 5 countries on puntdnal and carries a typical Albanian haplogroup, female sample from Dalmatia was autosomally a bit more distant but was getting Kosovar on soms calcs while the J2b2 was the most distant out of these although it also has a common Albo haplogroup

I assume we inherited the haplogroups and some autosomal from some of these samples ... or else I wonder where it came from .. doubt it could be a coincidence

[North Sea]

Can you check this thessalian greek? Z829678

Largest segment = 3.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 82.8 cM (2.324 Pct)

53 shared segments found for this comparison.

169949 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.445 Pct SNPs are full identical

[firemonkey]

Largest segment = 3.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 90.4 cM (2.537 Pct)

58 shared segments found for this comparison.

148538 SNPs used for this comparison.

51.872 Pct SNPs are full identical

[paradox]

Mine and my father's https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190330/8026757f876cdef01de10771f55cb023.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190330/5fc21e596ef108fd3780da8003348dee.jpg

[firemonkey]

Largest segment = 3.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 90.4 cM (2.537 Pct)

58 shared segments found for this comparison.

148538 SNPs used for this comparison.

51.872 Pct SNPs are full identical

[Moje ime]

It seems Greeks and Hungarians getting similar matches too. xD

I wonder how much this depends on our sample and company and I already said on 50 SNP matching doesn't have much sense. Everybody will get it.

[Lemgrant]

I am skeptical to these things although I agree but I know this sample is autosomally close to Albanians based on calculator results, it basically gets the same top 5 countries on puntdnal and carries a typical Albanian haplogroup, female sample from Dalmatia was autosomally a bit more distant but was getting Kosovar on soms calcs while the J2b2 was the most distant out of these although it also has a common Albo haplogroup

I assume we inherited the haplogroups and some autosomal from some of these samples ... or else I wonder where it came from .. doubt it could be a coincidence

126894 SNPs used for this comparison. (AncestryDNA V2 raw data file)

207551 SNPs used for this comparison. (23andme V3 raw data file (random person from Gedmatch))

With 23andme V3 you will get more shared segments and bigger Half-Match segments

[North Sea]

Largest segment = 4.9 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 15.0 cM (0.421 Pct)

4 shared segments found for this comparison.

I ran your other kit that had lower snp as I said on PM and thought I post it here for educational purposes

Largest segment = 4.9 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 15.0 cM (0.421 Pct)

4 shared segments found for this comparison.

43300 SNPs used for this comparison.

50.129 Pct SNPs are full identical




It gives you a greater longest segment but total cM drops significantly and so does shared segments , I doubt that this makes you more related to a sample as some here claim just because you get a single greater longest segment... I ran kits on 50 snp to people I am related to and the total cM increases shitloads which is an indicator of close relationship I believe .


I ran a bunch of Albanian kits and so far those Albanians were the closest to this , they get high total cM , longest segment and total shared segments overall . Its possibly a combimation of everything that determines closeness also.

[Carpatz]

Largest segment = 4.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 109.7 cM (3.080 Pct)

69 shared segments found for this comparison.

141260 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.393 Pct SNPs are full identical

[oszkar07]

Can you check this thessalian greek? Z829678

This is what I got ...

Largest segment = 5.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 1143.4 cM (31.905 Pct)

688 shared segments found for this comparison.

303448 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.330 Pct SNPs are full identical