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leonj
03-29-2019, 09:40 PM
Scandinavians are darker than Finns, Balts, and British Islanders. Is it because Scandinavians have more Central European admixture than the others?
nittionia
03-29-2019, 09:42 PM
Do you mean darker hair? Or skin?
Pansarkamrat
03-29-2019, 09:50 PM
Depends on what you mean by dark. But if you mean hair and eye color then scandinavia is not darker then the others exept finns. I have hazel / light brown eyes and brown hair that turn blond in the summer and people here call me "dark"
leonj
03-29-2019, 09:52 PM
Depends on what you mean by dark. But if you mean hair and eye color then scandinavia is not darker then the others exept finns. I have hazel / light brown eyes and brown hair that turn blond in the summer and people here call me "dark"
Actually I mean skin colour but I am not sure whether Scandinavians have more Central European admixture than the others or not :)
leonj
03-29-2019, 09:53 PM
real vikings are brunette
really?
visar
03-29-2019, 09:56 PM
Scandos are the lightest europeans.Brits have med admixture and balts have slavic input.
Pansarkamrat
03-29-2019, 10:00 PM
Actually I mean skin colour but I am not sure whether Scandinavians have more Central European admixture than the others or not :)
Ah ok. It depends how you would define it. If you define dark as being able to get a tan then probably Finns and balts have darker skin and then Scandinavians.
Bellbeaking
03-29-2019, 10:09 PM
Scandos are the lightest europeans.Brits have med admixture and balts have slavic input.
England has med admixture.... but scotland (and maybe Ireland) has lower EEF than Norway
Finnish Swede
03-29-2019, 10:16 PM
Ah ok. It depends how you would define it. If you define dark as being able to get a tan then probably Finns and balts have darker skin and then Scandinavians.
I will not comment people of British Island now.
What comes to rest...honestly...there are not huge differences between Finns and Swedish ...what comes to being ''darker''. Estonians are also close to Finns. Other two Baltics are bit ''darker'' (having more brunettes).
It really goes with hair color. Sand brunettes Finns and/or Scandinavians tans better that light blonds. All have all of those. This ends to question which ethnic has more brunettes and which one blonds. Differences are small anyway.
Matxe92
03-29-2019, 10:26 PM
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I will not comment people of British Island now.
What comes to rest...honestly...there are not huge differences between Finns and Swedish ...what comes to being ''darker''. Estonians are also close to Finns. Other two Baltics are bit ''darker'' (having more brunettes).
It really goes with hair color. Sand brunettes Finns and/or Scandinavians tans better that light blonds. All have all of those. This ends to question which ethnic has more brunettes and which one blonds. Differences are small anyway.
Phenotypelly speaking, do swedish-speaking finns look more like finns or more like swedes?
And which part of swedes are more like general finns? North swedes or southern ones? just curious
Pansarkamrat
03-29-2019, 10:27 PM
I will not comment people of British Island now.
What comes to rest...honestly...there are not huge differences between Finns and Swedish ...what comes to being ''darker''. Estonians are also close to Finns. Other two Baltics are bit ''darker'' (having more brunettes).
It really goes with hair color. Sand brunettes Finns and/or Scandinavians tans better that light blonds. All have all of those. This ends to question which ethnic has more brunettes and which one blonds. Differences are small anyway.
Thats true. I just said my thoughts not facts. I know the difrences is very smal but what I have seen, most Swedes tend to have the same skin as Finns but that there are more Swedes who have a more reddish skin color then finns who have it but the difrences are very smal. I should have clarified that.
Finnish Swede
03-29-2019, 10:34 PM
Thats true. I just said my thoughts not facts. I know the difrences is very smal but what I have seen, most Swedes tend to have the same skin as Finns but that there are more Swedes who have a more reddish skin color then finns who have it but the difrences are very smal. I should have clarified that.
Plus adding one: Skin is our biggest living organ. It remember all....
If Finn or Swedish have been in Canarian Island etc. several times ... and tanned by then .... next time he/she will tan easier than his friend who would be there first time. Generally speaking. Of course individual differences influences too.
Finnish Swede
03-29-2019, 10:45 PM
Phenotypelly speaking, do swedish-speaking finns look more like finns or more like swedes?
And which part of swedes are more like general finns? North swedes or southern ones? just curious
Sorry. I would not like to answer this (as some people in TA seems to think to ''know'' this better than I do).
Generally speaking Finnish Swedes are someway in the middle. Partly because their Swedish genes and party because their Finnish genes comes from Western Finland.
Swedish who lives in northern part of Sweden reminds Finns the most. Especially in ''meänkieli'' area:
http://minoritet.se/imagehandling?path=%2Fimages%2Fkartor%2Fny_karta.j pg&width=0&height=0&format=jpg&rangle=0
Theudelinde
10-14-2019, 01:05 PM
They're not darker than Brits.
A much more important racial factor than skin and eye color is the size of the nose and the shape of the eyes. Some Armenians are brighter than the Swedes, but this does not mean that they are Europeans. Just desegmentation.
L3mon J3lly
10-14-2019, 11:38 PM
It's because of shitskin Haplogroup I1.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/720x405/p05xbsb2.jpg
FIG. 1 (3 views). A Swede from Trollhatton, southern Sweden. This man is both tall and heavy; of lateral bodily build. His head is of prodigious length, his face nearly as wide as his cranial vault; all dimensions of the face are great, especially the width of the mandible; the distance between the eyes, and the heaviness of the browridges, are likewise remarkable. This individual recapitulates, as closely probably as any other living human being, the physical type of many of the hunters who lived in western and central Europe during the Laufen Interglacial and the last advance of the ice. Note that in his case, as with most of his type, only a partial degree of blondism is present
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe041.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate04.htm
Note that Coon said brunn race is highest in Goteborg where the Haplogroup I1 is highest.
Mingle
10-14-2019, 11:46 PM
Scandos are the lightest europeans.Brits have med admixture and balts have slavic input.
Med admixture exists all over Northern Europe, not only Britain.
Balts have no Slavic input, except for some in the far south.
L3mon J3lly
10-14-2019, 11:51 PM
????? Balts are Slavs.
ciftci
10-14-2019, 11:55 PM
Nordics generally have MC1R, they can get golden tan. Brits are pale and can't get tan mostly, they burn and get red. It's a disadvantageous trait in a world globally warming.
L3mon J3lly
10-15-2019, 12:01 AM
Nordics generally have MC1R, they can get golden tan. Brits are pale and can't get tan mostly, they burn and get red. It's a disadvantageous trait in a world globally warming.
Tanning isn't advantageous when most people spend most of their day indoors. Also, global warming is exacerbated by emissions in to the atmosphere which block UV radiation; the world is getting less sunnier as time goes on.
Cristiano viejo
10-15-2019, 12:03 AM
Scandos are the lightest europeans.Brits have med admixture and balts have slavic input.
No, they are not, it is British&Irish.
Having Med aNd Slavic input means nothing.
ciftci
10-15-2019, 12:07 AM
Tanning isn't advantageous when most people spend most of their day indoors. Also, global warming is exacerbated by emissions in to the atmosphere which block UV radiation; the world is getting less sunnier as time goes on.
I think having pale skin with ability to tan without burning is good. You can get enough d during harsh winters or can stay under sun without fear of burning.
I have this kind of skin, I get pale and tanned very easily.
L3mon J3lly
10-15-2019, 12:15 AM
I think having pale skin with ability to tan without burning is good. You can get enough d during harsh winters or can stay under sun without fear of burning.
I have this kind of skin, I get pale and tanned very easily.
Anyone who is not a black African or Melanesian suffers irreversible DNA damage and folate degradation upon exposure to sunlight, leading to genetic mutations passed on to offspring and cancer.
The fastest rising number of male skin cancer deaths is in Portugal and Greece. However, the mutational burden of UV exposure in the southern European population is far more costly than the number of people who die of cancer.
https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/05/health/melonoma-men-deaths-skin-cancer-intl/index.html
Portugal saw the largest growth of male mortality rates due to melanoma from 1985 to 2015, with a 192.4% increase, followed by Greece and Ireland, which saw rises of 121% and 115.5%, respectively.
SharpFork
10-15-2019, 12:20 AM
Anyone who is not a black African or Melanesian suffers irreversible DNA damage and folate degradation upon exposure to sunlight, leading to genetic mutations passed on to offspring and cancer.
The fastest rising number of male skin cancer deaths is in Portugal and Greece. However, the mutational burden of UV exposure in the southern European population is far more costly than the number of people who die of cancer.
https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/05/health/melonoma-men-deaths-skin-cancer-intl/index.html
Honestly that has probably more to do with rising ages.
L3mon J3lly
10-15-2019, 12:23 AM
Honestly that has probably more to do with rising ages.
Then why didn't deaths increase in Japan for males? Their male rate didn't increase, despite Japan being older.
Japan saw the lowest increase of melanoma deaths for the three-year period, with 0.24 men in every 100,000 dying and 0.18 out of 100,000 women.
It's because Japanese people avoid the sunlight and spend more time indoors than Southern Europeans, who live at a similar latitude.
Sunlight will only mess your DNA up and cause birth defects and damaged ugly skin. It also weakens you.
ciftci
10-15-2019, 12:24 AM
Anyone who is not a black African or Melanesian suffers irreversible DNA damage and folate degradation upon exposure to sunlight, leading to genetic mutations passed on to offspring and cancer.
The fastest rising number of male skin cancer deaths is in Portugal and Greece. However, the mutational burden of UV exposure in the southern European population is far more costly than the number of people who die of cancer.
https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/05/health/melonoma-men-deaths-skin-cancer-intl/index.html
I don't mean getting intentionally tanned for hours, it's meaningless for me and I don't like sun so much. But, not being ought to use sun cream to not burn is a useful thing.
Dorian
10-15-2019, 12:27 AM
The British albino-looking types are their own type ,they should have their own subrace ,it's a shame to equate them with the gold-tanned niggers of Scandinavia ,CE&EE.
http://fotonews.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/glynne_beach01.jpg
L3mon J3lly
10-15-2019, 12:27 AM
^ It's called Keltic Nordic.
SharpFork
10-15-2019, 12:30 AM
Sunlight will only mess your DNA up and cause birth defects and damaged ugly skin. It also weakens you.
No it won't if you don't live dozens of longitudinal degrees closer to the equator than your skin is meant to or if you don't stay under the sun for long period of times just because. Melanoma is all things considered not even that common until old age, after people usually have kids.
L3mon J3lly
10-15-2019, 12:34 AM
No it won't if you don't live dozens of longitudinal degrees closer to the equator than your skin is meant to or if you don't stay under the sun for long period of times just because. Melanoma is all things considered not even that common until old age, after people usually have kids.
Everyone outside subsaharan Africa and Papua has a skin type that is too light for its latitude. Ancient DNA evidence has proven that everyone outside Africa originally had a skin color that was dark brown to black, even above the 50th parallel, and that artificial selection lightened it to an unnatural degree over the last ~5000 years.
Also, the genetic mutations and folate degradation that accumulate from UV exposure happen during adolescence and are passed on to your offspring. The median age of skin cancer diagnosed patients is also decreasing.
Ymyyakhtakh
10-15-2019, 12:45 AM
Apparently this thread was about skin color, but in the case of eye color or hair color, Finnics (in the sense of the word "Finnic" where it is a synonym of "Baltic Finnic") might barely be lighter than Scandinavians, but there's no way Balts are. Estonians are not Balts.
I think the prevalence of light-colored eyes among both Finnics and Scandinavians is frequently overestimated, and it is possibly closer to 80% than to 90%.
In 4 different Swedish football leagues, among players who I estimated to be ethnic Swedes, Danes, Icelandics, or Norwegians, the prevalence of eyes which I classified as light-colored was only around 80% in each league:
Allsvenskan (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/allsvenskan-herrar/77486/) (premier men's league): 130/161 (~81%)
OBOS Damallsvenskan (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/obos-damallsvenskan/77346/) (premier women's league): 129/159 (~81%)
Superettan (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/tabell-och-resultat/superettan/77487/) (second-level men's league): 152/189 (~81%)
Elitettan (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/elitettan/77347/) (second-level women's league): 167/208 (~80%)
I even had liberal criteria for what I considered light-colored eyes, so that I didn't count dark green eyes as dark-colored unless they clearly looked yellowish or brown, and so that I also counted some light hazel eyes as light-colored.
Among 4 different Finnish national hockey teams, the total prevalence of eyes which I classified as light-colored was also only 75/92 (~81%):
IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship 2019: 22/25
IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championship 2019: 20/22
IIHF Ice Hockey U18 World Championship 2019: 17/23
IIHF Ice Hockey U18 Women's World Championship 2019: 16/22
SharpFork
10-15-2019, 01:34 PM
Everyone outside subsaharan Africa and Papua has a skin type that is too light for its latitude. Ancient DNA evidence has proven that everyone outside Africa originally had a skin color that was dark brown to black, even above the 50th parallel, and that artificial selection lightened it to an unnatural degree over the last ~5000 years.
No, ancient DNA evidence has proven that people as light as modern South European existed at least since the Neolithic era in Europe. There is no "artificial selection" or "unnatural" in evolution, if the UV light damage did not offer enough counterweight to sexual selection or vitamin D deficiency, then dark skin was clearly not naturally better.
Also are you arguing that even Indonesians, Indians and Arabs are lighter than they should be, what? How come most of the world magically became ligther all at the same time within mere millennia so consistently? It's almost as if you are just spouting bullshit.
Also, the genetic mutations and folate degradation that accumulate from UV exposure happen during adolescence and are passed on to your offspring. The median age of skin cancer diagnosed patients is also decreasing.
Citation needed for both claims:
https://www.mja.com.au/sites/default/files/issues/208_06/mja17.00725-gr2.jpg
It only affects older people and even only relevantly in places like Australia or Southern US.
ciftci
10-15-2019, 01:37 PM
Everyone outside subsaharan Africa and Papua has a skin type that is too light for its latitude. Ancient DNA evidence has proven that everyone outside Africa originally had a skin color that was dark brown to black, even above the 50th parallel, and that artificial selection lightened it to an unnatural degree over the last ~5000 years.
Also, the genetic mutations and folate degradation that accumulate from UV exposure happen during adolescence and are passed on to your offspring. The median age of skin cancer diagnosed patients is also decreasing.
This means non-black people had racist ancestors favoring light skinned ones always.
L3mon J3lly
10-15-2019, 06:12 PM
No, ancient DNA evidence has proven that people as light as modern South European existed at least since the Neolithic era in Europe.
No way buddy, no study ever said that.
There is no "artificial selection" or "unnatural" in evolution, if the UV light damage did not offer enough counterweight to sexual selection or vitamin D deficiency, then dark skin was clearly not naturally better.
Our ancestors didn't live in evolution; they lived in cities and felt covered wagons.
Also are you arguing that even Indonesians, Indians and Arabs are lighter than they should be, what?
Yes. Arabs in particular are way too light. Indians: depends on admixture with ASI.
How come most of the world magically became ligther all at the same time within mere millennia so consistently? It's almost as if you are just spouting bullshit.
It's almost as if you're a bot, because actual humans shouldn't be this retarded. The "lightening" of the world corresponds to the rise of mobile warlords with domesticated horses and wheels... Everywhere, but mostly originating out of the Steppes.
https://www.mja.com.au/sites/default/files/issues/208_06/mja17.00725-gr2.jpg
It only affects older people and even only relevantly in places like Australia or Southern US.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5674018/?report=classic
Mutations are induced by not only intrinsic factors such as inherent molecular errors but also by extrinsic mutagenic factors such as UV radiation. Therefore, identifying the mutational properties for both factors is necessary to achieve a comprehensive understanding of evolutionary processes both in nature and in artificial situations. Although there have been extensive studies on intrinsic factors, the mutational profiles of extrinsic factors are poorly understood on a genomic scale. Here, we explored the mutation profiles of UV radiation, a ubiquitous mutagen, in Escherichia coli on the genomic scale. We performed an evolution experiment under periodic UV radiation for 28 days. The accumulation speed of the mutations was found to increase so that it exceeded that of a typical mutator strain with deficient mismatch repair processes. The huge contribution of the extrinsic factors to all mutations consequently increased the risk of the destruction of inherent error correction systems. The spectrum of the UV-induced mutations was broader than that of the spontaneous mutations in the mutator. The broad spectrum and high upper limit of the frequency of occurrence suggested ubiquitous roles for UV radiation in accelerating the evolutionary process.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25999502?dopt=Abstract
How somatic mutations accumulate in normal cells is central to understanding cancer development but is poorly understood. We performed ultradeep sequencing of 74 cancer genes in small (0.8 to 4.7 square millimeters) biopsies of normal skin. Across 234 biopsies of sun-exposed eyelid epidermis from four individuals, the burden of somatic mutations averaged two to six mutations per megabase per cell, similar to that seen in many cancers, and exhibited characteristic signatures of exposure to ultraviolet light. Remarkably, multiple cancer genes are under strong positive selection even in physiologically normal skin, including most of the key drivers of cutaneous squamous cell carcinomas. Positively selected mutations were found in 18 to 32% of normal skin cells at a density of ~140 driver mutations per square centimeter. We observed variability in the driver landscape among individuals and variability in the sizes of clonal expansions across genes. Thus, aged sun-exposed skin is a patchwork of thousands of evolving clones with over a quarter of cells carrying cancer-causing mutations while maintaining the physiological functions of epidermis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22747844/
Folate is essential for human health in the prevention of megaloblastic anemia and neural tube birth defects and plays important roles in cardiovascular disease and cancer. Therefore, research into environmental factors that may impact folate status, such as solar ultraviolet (UV) radiation, is of great health significance. In vitro studies have shown that UV radiation can degrade folate and folic acid in human blood and this has been confirmed in several human studies. Despite these findings, there is a dearth of epidemiological research into investigating the relationship between folate status and the links to solar UV exposure.
Nordarya
01-12-2020, 09:21 PM
It's because of shitskin Haplogroup I1.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/720x405/p05xbsb2.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe041.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate04.htm
Note that Coon said brunn race is highest in Goteborg where the Haplogroup I1 is highest.Between I1 Sweden, R1b Denmark and R1a Norway, each has a higher percentage than the other two in one haplogroup. Now, the irony is that Swedish Cuckistan imports boatloads of J rapefugees, so it must be a biological imperative to reclaim IJ relations, no different than the Balkanisation of I and J. As someone who is R1a, I guess I belong in the Americas with all the Q, for QR aka P.
The British albino-looking types are their own type ,they should have their own subrace ,it's a shame to equate them with the gold-tanned niggers of Scandinavia ,CE&EE.
http://fotonews.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/glynne_beach01.jpg
Probably daughter of some R1b. Definitely my type.
Septentrion
05-13-2020, 03:12 PM
Apparently this thread was about skin color, but in the case of eye color or hair color, Finnics (in the sense of the word "Finnic" where it is a synonym of "Baltic Finnic") might barely be lighter than Scandinavians, but there's no way Balts are. Estonians are not Balts.
I think the prevalence of light-colored eyes among both Finnics and Scandinavians is frequently overestimated, and it is possibly closer to 80% than to 90%.
In 4 different Swedish football leagues, among players who I estimated to be ethnic Swedes, Danes, Icelandics, or Norwegians, the prevalence of eyes which I classified as light-colored was only around 80% in each league:
Allsvenskan (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/allsvenskan-herrar/77486/) (premier men's league): 130/161 (~81%)
OBOS Damallsvenskan (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/obos-damallsvenskan/77346/) (premier women's league): 129/159 (~81%)
Superettan (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/tabell-och-resultat/superettan/77487/) (second-level men's league): 152/189 (~81%)
Elitettan (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/elitettan/77347/) (second-level women's league): 167/208 (~80%)
I even had liberal criteria for what I considered light-colored eyes, so that I didn't count dark green eyes as dark-colored unless they clearly looked yellowish or brown, and so that I also counted some light hazel eyes as light-colored.
Among 4 different Finnish national hockey teams, the total prevalence of eyes which I classified as light-colored was also only 75/92 (~81%):
IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship 2019: 22/25
IIHF Ice Hockey Women's World Championship 2019: 20/22
IIHF Ice Hockey U18 World Championship 2019: 17/23
IIHF Ice Hockey U18 Women's World Championship 2019: 16/22
Yeah light eyes for Scandinavian and Baltic populations usually range between 80% - 90%.
Septentrion
05-13-2020, 03:14 PM
I think having pale skin with ability to tan without burning is good. You can get enough d during harsh winters or can stay under sun without fear of burning.
I have this kind of skin, I get pale and tanned very easily.
You have skin phototype 3. Yes this would seem «pale» in your population as it is non - European Mediterranean one.
Septentrion
05-13-2020, 03:23 PM
The British albino-looking types are their own type ,they should have their own subrace ,it's a shame to equate them with the gold-tanned niggers of Scandinavia ,CE&EE.
http://fotonews.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/glynne_beach01.jpg
Most British and Irish belong to a special Nordid type called Keltic. The skin is pale reddish white, often freckled, usually with the physiological inability to tan. It is the lightest or palest skin type. This is why the British are lighter or fairer than Scandinavians or Balts or whoever else.
Examples:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-51dae76963c71678de10716ef3c786c7-c
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-894537c9f6fdbcbfbb442a70e3fd8404-c
CommonSense
05-13-2020, 03:24 PM
Maintenance, is that you?
Septentrion
10-09-2021, 11:35 PM
Scandinavians are darker than Finns, Balts, and British Islanders. Is it because Scandinavians have more Central European admixture than the others?
Scandinavians, Finns and Balts are not different as a whole in skin color. Get that out of your system, OK. It was said by anthropologists of old, that Finns and Balts are not vascular as their Scandinavian neighbors.
Septentrion
10-09-2021, 11:42 PM
Scandinavians are darker than Finns, Balts, and British Islanders. Is it because Scandinavians have more Central European admixture than the others?
Finland as a whole is the blondest country on earth. Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Estonia are slightly less blond - haired as whole. This is because within Finland the difference between regions in blondness, is smaller compared to the other countries stated above. However there are two regions in Northern Europe which have scored higher than the Finland total. Those are the blondest places in the world the inland parts of the South Norwegian Agder region and Central Estonia.
Finnish Swede
10-10-2021, 06:25 AM
Scandinavians, Finns and Balts are not different as a whole in skin color. Get that out of your system, OK. It was said by anthropologists of old, that Finns and Balts are not vascular as their Scandinavian neighbors.
Now once I agree with you Septentrion. Again I have been enough in both countries (SWE and FI) to say that based one some 100 photos of ethnic Scandinavians and Finns .... just showing arms (for example) ... I would not have clue who is who. Yes, there are tiny numbers of darker persons in both countries like Alicia Vikander or Jari Litmanen but those are really small minorities. All have gypsies and Samies as well.
Now perhaps Swedes might shows up some more tanned than Finns (photos, holidays etc.), but I just think that here more people will use money for that than in Finland. But those in Finland who do the same (some celebrities etc.) will look pretty same.
Hair color opposite indicates someway how person will tan.
That is situation today. Will immigration change that in the future? Firstly in Sweden? Time will tell. So far Swedes have not mixed with immigrants any larger scale. More like it is that immigrants will make (together) more babies than ethnic Swedes (per heads).
Septentrion
10-11-2021, 10:39 AM
Now once I agree with you Septentrion. Again I have been enough in both countries (SWE and FI) to say that based one some 100 photos of ethnic Scandinavians and Finns .... just showing arms (for example) ... I would not have clue who is who. Yes, there are tiny numbers of darker persons in both countries like Alicia Vikander or Jari Litmanen but those are really small minorities. All have gypsies and Samies as well.
Now perhaps Swedes might shows up some more tanned than Finns (photos, holidays etc.), but I just think that here more people will use money for that than in Finland. But those in Finland who do the same (some celebrities etc.) will look pretty same.
Hair color opposite indicates someway how person will tan.
That is situation today. Will immigration change that in the future? Firstly in Sweden? Time will tell. So far Swedes have not mixed with immigrants any larger scale. More like it is that immigrants will make (together) more babies than ethnic Swedes (per heads).
It is good to agree once in a while. It’s even better, when we respect each other’s opinions. Regardless of how different it may sound.
Proto-Shaman
10-11-2021, 01:08 PM
it's because of historical Tyrk kings, many of whom where middle eastern Iranid.
Septentrion
04-19-2024, 02:22 AM
Now once I agree with you Septentrion. Again I have been enough in both countries (SWE and FI) to say that based one some 100 photos of ethnic Scandinavians and Finns .... just showing arms (for example) ... I would not have clue who is who. Yes, there are tiny numbers of darker persons in both countries like Alicia Vikander or Jari Litmanen but those are really small minorities. All have gypsies and Samies as well.
Now perhaps Swedes might shows up some more tanned than Finns (photos, holidays etc.), but I just think that here more people will use money for that than in Finland. But those in Finland who do the same (some celebrities etc.) will look pretty same.
Hair color opposite indicates someway how person will tan.
That is situation today. Will immigration change that in the future? Firstly in Sweden? Time will tell. So far Swedes have not mixed with immigrants any larger scale. More like it is that immigrants will make (together) more babies than ethnic Swedes (per heads).
Good! Now you can join NATO and come to its capital (Brussels!).
Septentrion
04-19-2024, 02:32 AM
Scandinavians are darker than Finns, Balts, and British Islanders. Is it because Scandinavians have more Central European admixture than the others?
Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England have the lightest skin pigmentation. This is due to an adaptation of the terrible gloomy weather. It is also due to this gloomy weather (less sunshine days per annum), that hair colour in general tends to be darker or redder than what is average in this latitude of Northern Europe. Skin not only became paler, but also lost its ability to tan or darken rather express it in Freckling and burning. Thus one can deduce that the palest ("whitest") Europeans are not the blondest. However, when these fair Europeans are brought a sunny climate, their hair lightens.
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