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Token
03-31-2019, 01:54 PM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8754910/horse-riding-yamnaya-tribe-most-violent/

RIDE OR DIE Are the horse-riding Yamnaya tribe who brutally murdered their way across Europe the most violent people in history?
The powerfully built tribe swept into Europe between 4000 and 5000 years ago and their DNA lives on in us today

A TRIBE who swept into Europe thousands of years ago and whose descendants wiped out ancient Britons could be the most violent and aggressive society ever, it was claimed.

The Yamnaya were a group of livestock herders who lived north of the Black Sea and in the Caucasus mountains in modern day Russia and Ukraine.

The group and their descendants arrived in Europe between 4000 and 5000 years ago, New Scientist reports.

At the time Europe had been ravaged by disease, eroding the population’s ability to resist the powerfully built and aggressive Yamnaya horseback warriors.

They overwhelmed smaller Europeans and the Yamnaya culture as well as their DNA soon spread throughout the continent.

According archaeologist Kristian Kristiansen, after they brought with their brutal practices there appears to have been a sharp upsurge in lethal violence.

Such was the extent of their brutality that he began to consider whether they were the most murderous people in history.

“I’ve become increasingly convinced there must have been a kind of genocide,” said Professor Kristiansen.

He said the Yamnaya lived mostly on meat and milk products which made them “healthier and probably physically quite strong”.

'I’ve become increasingly convinced there must have been a kind of genocide'
Professor Kristian Kristiansen

It has been claimed that when the Yamnaya invaded they massacred all the males and impregnated the women in order to rapidly further their bloodlines.

This would have caused panic and resistance in Neolithic societies struggling to hold back the Yamnaya.

Graves show the remains of the Eulau who were captured and massacred in retaliation.

It has been claimed that the Yamnaya are the missing third genetic component in Europeans.

A team led by Professor David Reich and his colleagues extracted DNA from remains found at archaeological sites around the continent, the BBC reported.

Their research showed that 7,000-8,000 years ago, a closely related group of early farmers moved into Europe from the Near East.

This group interbred with indigenous hunter-gatherers that they encountered as they spread around the continent and eventually the two groups melded.

But previous studies have found that this mixture of hunters and farmers wasn’t enough to explain the complexity of modern European and third group must have been present.

Professor Reich’s team said the Bronze Age Yamnaya were a good fit for the missing third genetic component in Europeans.

The Yamnaya’s DNA lived on the ancient Corded Ware and Beaker people - named for the pottery their produced.

The Beakers invaded Britain about 4500 years ago and wiped out the local population, studies have shown.

It is believed that Stonehenge may have been a memorial to the vanished people who perished after the brutal Yamnaya's descendants arrive on these shores.

dosas
03-31-2019, 02:06 PM
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aN1DZ44_700b.jpg

Bellbeaking
03-31-2019, 02:19 PM
http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-most-violent-group-of-people-who-ever-lived-take-that-carl-zimmer/


A couple of weeks ago, there was an amusing Carl Zimmer article in the New York Times about how the extinction of indigenous male DNA lines in the Iberian peninsula after the arrival of the Yamnaya (a.k.a., Aryans) around 4,500 years ago couldn’t have had anything to do with wars or massacres or the lamentations of the womenfolk, but instead involved a “political process.” So nothing to notice here, folks. Migrations are all part of the great cycle of life. It’s really boring.

The Daily Mail[and the sun], however, is going with a less tedious spin on the DNA findings:


I much prefer the genocide and massacre narrative, much more in line with right wing schools of thought regarding the patriarchal brutality of human nature. And teaches us about the need to defend yourself and 'be or be killed'. Ties in a little better with right wing narratives that equate historical large scale immigration with conquest, rather than a peaceful sharing of cultures.

Leto
03-31-2019, 02:23 PM
The British media is extremely shitlib and openly anti-white. WHITE MAN BAD 24/7.

Leto
03-31-2019, 02:24 PM
And by the way, the Yamnaya weren't the Aryans. There is no proof they referred to themselves as such.

Leto
03-31-2019, 02:30 PM
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aN1DZ44_700b.jpg
VENI, VIDI, VICI

https://pics.me.me/iulius-aesar-january-12-29-featuring-eddie-george-as-julius-caesar-1161728.png

Tong
03-31-2019, 02:41 PM
probably because they were very violent?

black hole
03-31-2019, 02:42 PM
British media is also Russophobic.

JMack
03-31-2019, 02:50 PM
VENI, VIDI, VICI

https://pics.me.me/iulius-aesar-january-12-29-featuring-eddie-george-as-julius-caesar-1161728.png

What I don't understand is their specific obsession with SSAs. I mean if they were arguing ancient Rome and Greece were ''multicultural'' for having some Middle Eastern looking people and influences from the Eastern Mediterranean, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Iran or even India (the ancient world was actually well connected) they maybe would have a point, but including full blown SSAs is ridiculous.

I think they depart from this Anglo notion of white x the others, so anyone who isn't European (or NW European in some narratives) can be equated with blacks, that's why they don't see problem in depicting Hannibal Barca as a black man.

It reminds me of this meme:

https://i.postimg.cc/D02xq4xm/anti-american-front.jpg

Tong
03-31-2019, 02:51 PM
What I don't understand is their specific obsession with SSAs. I mean if they were arguing ancient Rome and Greece were ''multicultural'' for having some Middle Eastern looking people and influences from the Eastern Mediterranean, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Iran or even India (the ancient world was actually well connected) they maybe would have a point, but including full blown SSAs is ridiculous.

I think they depart from this Anglo notion of white x the others, so anyone who isn't European (or NW European in some narratives) can be equated with blacks, that's why they don't see problem in depicting Hannibal Barca as a black man.

It reminds me of this meme:

https://i.postimg.cc/D02xq4xm/anti-american-front.jpg

I have no idea but it isnt ''muh jews!!!!''

Tong
03-31-2019, 02:52 PM
British media is also Russophobic.

This is true. I believe the british media was the most pro-chechen one in europe when that went on.

they were also very pro georgian

Bellbeaking
03-31-2019, 02:54 PM
What I don't understand is their specific obsession with SSAs. I mean if they were arguing ancient Rome and Greece were ''multicultural'' for having some Middle Eastern looking people and influences from the Eastern Mediterranean, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Iran or even India (the ancient world was actually well connected) they maybe would have a point, but including full blown SSAs is ridiculous.

I think they depart from this Anglo notion of white x the others, so anyone who isn't European (or NW European in some narratives) can be equated with blacks, that's why they don't see problem in depicting Hannibal Barca as a black man.

It reminds me of this meme:

https://i.postimq4xm/antn-front.jpg

It is ridiculous how North European shows always cast north africans as black.

Leto
03-31-2019, 02:56 PM
What I don't understand is their specific obsession with SSAs. I mean if they were arguing ancient Rome and Greece were ''multicultural'' for having some Middle Eastern looking people and influences from the Eastern Mediterranean, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Iran or even India (the ancient world was actually well connected) they maybe would have a point, but including full blown SSAs is ridiculous.

I think they depart from this Anglo notion of white x the others, so anyone who isn't European (or NW European in some narratives) can be equated with blacks, that's why they don't see problem in depicting Hannibal Barca as a black man.

It's all simple. White people have no culture and no history. Basically the West has been multiracial since ever. Romans were blacks, ancient Greeks were blacks, Vikings were blacks, Greek gods, Norse gods, Joan of Arc, Victorian England, etc. etc.
If someone doesn't understand the agenda in 2019, they're either blind or stupid.

Try shooting a film about Martin Luther King with a white actor and see what kind of reaction it will cause.

black hole
03-31-2019, 02:59 PM
This is true. I believe the british media was the most pro-chechen one in europe when that went on.

they were also very pro georgian




That is also true. I do not know why

Leto
03-31-2019, 03:00 PM
What I don't understand is their specific obsession with SSAs. I mean if they were arguing ancient Rome and Greece were ''multicultural'' for having some Middle Eastern looking people and influences from the Eastern Mediterranean, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Iran or even India (the ancient world was actually well connected) they maybe would have a point, but including full blown SSAs is ridiculous.
One more thing - blacks and mulattoes are now everywhere. You can see them in advertisement even in such white homogenous countries like Poland, Hungary, Czechia, etc. They are basically proclaimed the new, better humans.

Token
03-31-2019, 03:04 PM
It's all simple. White people have no culture and no history. Basically the West has been multiracial since ever. Romans were blacks, ancient Greeks were blacks, Vikings were blacks, Greek gods, Norse gods, Joan of Arc, Victorian England, etc. etc.
If someone doesn't understand the agenda in 2019, they're either blind or stupid.

Try shooting a film about Martin Luther King with a white actor and see what kind of reaction it will cause.

And now they are trying to portray the ancestors of modern-day Europeans as 'the most murderous people of history' who wiped the poor black Old Europeans.

JMack
03-31-2019, 03:11 PM
It's all simple. White people have no culture and no history. Basically the West has been multiracial since ever. Romans were blacks, ancient Greeks were blacks, Vikings were blacks, Greek gods, Norse gods, Joan of Arc, Victorian England, etc. etc.
If someone doesn't understand the agenda in 2019, they're either blind or stupid.

Try shooting a film about Martin Luther King with a white actor and see what kind of reaction it will cause.


It is ridiculous how North European shows always cast north africans as black.

Yeah, or when they think that ''Afro-Asiatic'' (semitic, egyptian etc.) influence over classical civilizations means ''black''. These guys are utterly stupid.

I mean one can defend the ancient world was ''multicultural'' in the sense of being a constant exchange of Mediterranean cultures and related regions, but equating non-European influences with SSAs as if anyone living in, let's say, ancient Phoenicia was black is completely stupid.

It comes from post-modern Anglos fetishization of a world divided between ''whites'' and ''people of color''. So they always need to blame ''whites'' for everything and they idealize ''people of color'' (always depicted as blacks). I honestly think that a regular anglo leftist think Lebanese or Turks look closer to Ugandans than to Brits, no joke.

Anglo-Saxons have a very vicious approach to blacks, they are either extremely negrophilic or extremely negrophobic.

Graham
03-31-2019, 03:31 PM
Britain and Ireland would have had such a small population that a replacement of 90% in the bronze age would not have been difficult without a sword.

All you need is a plague, a famine or a foreign new disease that migrants are immune from.

The Sun is a clickbait site, would not read into politics.

Grace O'Malley
04-01-2019, 12:12 AM
From what I've read the neolithic populations of both Britain and Ireland had declined by the time the Bell Beakers came along. Climate change was a factor and farming wasn't sustainable especially in places like Ireland at the time. There just wasn't many farmers left.

Newspapers are woefully bad at reporting on these scientific studies. Not sure what is wrong with their Science writers. :picard1:

Bellbeaking
04-01-2019, 12:21 AM
From what I've read the neolithic populations of both Britain and Ireland had declined by the time the Bell Beakers came along. Climate change was a factor and farming wasn't sustainable especially in places like Ireland at the time. There just wasn't many farmers left.

Newspapers are woefully bad at reporting on these scientific studies. Not sure what is wrong with their Science writers. :picard1:

Y-DNA contribution was also similar to Autosomal contribution (just a bit less) which suggests a degree of assimilation.

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Token
04-01-2019, 12:23 AM
From what I've read the neolithic populations of both Britain and Ireland had declined by the time the Bell Beakers came along. Climate change was a factor and farming wasn't sustainable especially in places like Ireland at the time. There just wasn't many farmers left.

Newspapers are woefully bad at reporting on these scientific studies. Not sure what is wrong with their Science writers. :picard1:

Now it is NewScientist's turn, a magazine specialized on science.

Story of most murderous people of all time revealed in ancient DNA
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24132230-200-story-of-most-murderous-people-of-all-time-revealed-in-ancient-dna/

Whoever spoke PIE were surely an extremely violent people, but the plague surely played a major role on these population replacements, and they don't even care to mention it in these articles.

The Lawspeaker
04-01-2019, 12:24 AM
The media is on its way to irrelevance.

TeutonicBoyars
04-01-2019, 12:42 AM
The Indo-European Man is the epitome of male dominance.

Let's start by looking at his body. His body is large. His domineering size makes his presence known without him even needing to point himself out. He is muscular, as a result of his high levels of testosterone. This gives him the appearance of health and strength. He is then covered by his blonde hair. This blonde hair reminds us of his ruggedness, a feature that developed due to being exposed to the freezing cold, made to withstand such an extreme condition. It also has a psychological effect on the observer. The brown hair reminds us of our dark, deep desires that emerge from our primal subconscious past.

The Indo-European mans demeanor is one of alphaness. He is dominant, assertive, and can be explosively aggressive. His behaviour strikes fear into the more timid, cowardly races of man.

The summit of expression of his masculinity on his body is his penis. The Indo-European Mans penis is largest of all the races. As the penis is the ultimate symbol of manhood, this alone would suffice to make the Indo-European Man the most masculine of men. This large penis is able fulfill the desire of the neediest of women, being able to more than fill all the recesses of the vagina. Its length ensures that when it ejaculates, the potent Indo-European seed will immediately enter the womb of the woman the Indo-European man impregnates.

In total, the Indo-European Man expresses this masculinity in a most exemplary manner in bed. When he fucks, he unleashes the entirety of his lusts and desires upon his partner without any restraint.

All this is the reason why the Indo-European man is the epitome of masculinity and male dominance.

Peterski
04-01-2019, 01:04 AM
^^^
WTF did you smoke before writing that? Probably some Indo-European shit:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3vlONgNFbo

Morena
04-01-2019, 01:12 AM
Well, a violent takeover is what best fits the archaeological and genetic evidence. Even if the original populations were already in decline, that made the invasion all the easier.

It's called life.

Borealis
04-01-2019, 01:27 AM
Well these people couldn't have spread their seed all the way from Spain to Bangladesh singing lullabies.

Morena
04-01-2019, 01:33 AM
Well these people couldn't have spread their seed all the way from Spain to Bangladesh singing lullabies.

So true. :lol: the clincher for me is that male lines were eliminated but female lines somehow survived. :rolleyes:

Borealis
04-01-2019, 01:39 AM
So true. :lol: the clincher for me is that male lines were eliminated but female lines somehow survived. :rolleyes:

Yeah, people here are getting upset at the suggestion because they're associating Indo-European with European. In reality these people would probably have looked and acted quite alien to modern Europeans.

Morena
04-01-2019, 01:44 AM
Yeah, people here are getting upset at the suggestion because they're associating Indo-European with European. In reality these people would probably have looked and acted quite alien to modern Europeans.

Yes, Europeans are a combination of three major groups. Most of them aren't even majority Indo-European.

Imperator Biff
04-01-2019, 07:11 AM
Wow that was painful to read.
These soyboy left wing journalist faggots have no idea wtf they’re talking about.

Cumansky
04-01-2019, 07:18 AM
I read this article couple days ago, is being currently commercialized in USA Facebook groups by those puppet administrators, you can't miss if you part of geneology groups.

Peterski
04-03-2019, 12:40 AM
I'm surprised nobody mentioned "rape culture" in these articles.

Óttar
04-03-2019, 01:08 AM
It is believed that Stonehenge may have been a memorial to the vanished people who perished after the brutal Yamnaya's descendants arrive on these shores.
What? Why the f-ck would they pillage, murder, and rape and then build a monument to the vanquished? Stupidest thing I've ever heard.

TheOldNorth
04-03-2019, 01:15 AM
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aN1DZ44_700b.jpg

O yes, the ancient king of the gods who had a great white beard and was born with grey hair is black... maybe that explains why he has so many baby mamas

Peterski
04-03-2019, 11:06 PM
It didn't have to be a brutal conquest, R1b could become dominant due to some kind of cuckoldry (remember that Megalithic and Neolithic Non-R1 men were basically some sort of pro-open borders prehistoric male feminists, if Gimbutas was right about Old Europe):

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/03/map-of-pre-corded-ware-culture-2900-bce.html

^^^ From the comments:

"Much of this thing will blow over soon and then there will be detailed discussions about how to interpret these sorts of ancient DNA results in more subtle ways.

Logically, the results from Iberia aren't really compatible with a brutal, violent conquest scenario if the people from the east were Indo-European speakers.

That's because there's no plausible explanation why they would kill most of the local Iberian men and then switch to the non-Indo-European languages of their local Iberian brides, and on such a scale too.

A brutal conquest is logically a process in which there is very little passed on by the vanquished people.

So it's like this: if this was a conquest, then these weren't Indo-Europeans, but rather the precursors of Basques, Iberians, Tartessians etc., and if these were Indo-Europeans, then this wasn't a violent conquest but largely some sort of social and demographic process basically agreed upon by both sides."

Friends of Oliver Society
04-03-2019, 11:41 PM
What I don't understand is their specific obsession with SSAs. I mean if they were arguing ancient Rome and Greece were ''multicultural'' for having some Middle Eastern looking people and influences from the Eastern Mediterranean, Mesopotamia, Egypt and Iran or even India (the ancient world was actually well connected) they maybe would have a point, but including full blown SSAs is ridiculous.

I think they depart from this Anglo notion of white x the others, so anyone who isn't European (or NW European in some narratives) can be equated with blacks, that's why they don't see problem in depicting Hannibal Barca as a black man.

It reminds me of this meme:

https://i.postimg.cc/D02xq4xm/anti-american-front.jpg

It's a play. He's an actor. I don't see why anyone should take issue with a Black man or woman playing a role typically known for being White when it comes to a play. It would be very limiting for Black actors if the only role they ever got in a play by Shakespeare was Othello. What matters is the material and how the actor performs. The other stuff - whether the actor playing Julius Caesar is White, Black, Asian, etc. - is irrelevant to the material.

Imperator Biff
04-05-2019, 09:33 PM
Modern mass migration = Good
Ancient mass migration = Bad

The (((media))) ladies and gentlemen.

Token
04-17-2019, 12:50 AM
Cool painting.

https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/25160457/new_scientist_stonehenge-800x533.jpg

Dick
04-17-2019, 12:54 AM
Modern mass migration = Good
Ancient mass migration = Bad

The (((media))) ladies and gentlemen.

Nice way of putting it.

Anyway, looks like they're trying to demonize Russians and not white people in general. Majority of people have no clue who or what Yamnaya is.



The Yamnaya were a group of livestock herders who lived north of the Black Sea and in the Caucasus mountains in modern day Russia

Leto
04-17-2019, 02:12 AM
Nice way of putting it.

Anyway, looks like they're trying to demonize Russians and not white people in general. Majority of people have no clue who or what Yamnaya is.
Lol. An interesting point. So basically we were already evil even before we actually came to exist! :lol:

Borealis
04-17-2019, 02:25 AM
Modern mass migration = Good
Ancient mass migration = Bad

The (((media))) ladies and gentlemen.

To be fair, those people are not coming in on horseback and massacring the entire local male line.

Dick
04-17-2019, 02:27 AM
To be fair, those people are not coming in on horseback and massacring the entire local male line.

Fair point.

Phenix
04-17-2019, 02:37 AM
Are you mad? for once I enjoyed reading a British newspaper article, with a quite good depiction of history.


It is ridiculous how North European shows always cast north africans as black.

We are accustomed, don't worry.