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Slavic Italian
04-01-2019, 04:00 PM
Some of us are so mixed no calculator is going to come close to giving us a good estimate of our ethnicities. I am such a person. Even Davidski told me these models are not going to be spot on for me. They will, however, provide me with enough insights of my ancestry. These are my foreign matches. Of course Slavic people are Slavic people. But this is an example of how mixed a person can be and no calculator is going to nail it 100%.

Great Britain-319 DNA Matches
Canada-127 DNA Matches
Finland- 112 DNA Matches(Some of my larger matches)
Australia-104 DNA Matches
Germany-73 DNA Matches(Several are from Russia)
Sweden-44 DNA Matches
New Zealand-40 DNA Matches
Netherlands-32 DNA Matches
Ireland-29 DNA Matches(A few strong matches)
Norway-27 DNA Matches
France-22 DNA Matches
Denmark-15 DNA Matches
Austria-12 DNA Matches
Italy-10 DNA Matches
Spain-9 DNA Matches
Switzerland-9 DNA Matches
Poland-6 DNA Matches
Russia-6 DNA Matches
Belgium-5 DNA Matches
Brazil-5 DNA Matches
South Africa-2 DNA Matches
Argentina-2 DNA Matches
United Arab Emirates- 2 DNA Matches(1 is from Czech Republic)
Bermuda-2 Matches
Hungary-2 Matches
Slovakia-2 Matches
Mexico-2 Matches
Ukraine-2 Matches(1 strong match family is from Russia)
Indonesia-1 Match
Romania-1 Match
Venezuela-1 Match
Singapore-1 Match
Serbia-1 Match
Kazakhstan-1 Match(She is from Russia)
Oman-1 Match
Portugal-1 Match
Angola-1
Luxembourg-1
Czech Republic-1
Latvia-1
Malta-1
Belarus-1
Ethiopia-1
Bulgaria-1
Barbados-1

23&me
China-4 Matches(All 4 are natives)
Japan-4 Matches(All 4 are natives)
I also match with the Korean samples from Devil's Gate.

Ancestry DNA
Iran-1 match

karakartal
04-01-2019, 04:30 PM
If you want to know you, you must be try many special calculators. I think Davidski's G25, Eurogenes and IBD chromosome browser is very good and accurate. Also Lukasz's services is very good.

The commercial dna calculator not good. The raw data quality most important for me. Many models and calculators give me a right results. I'm a mixed person too. I have a Central Asia, Anatolia, Middle East and Balkan(Slav+natives) and Meditarrenean genes.

Most of people dna's is very close. It's very normal. Also most of peoples don't know their ancestry.

Slavic Italian
04-01-2019, 04:38 PM
If you want to know you, you must be try many special calculators. I think Davidski's G25, Eurogenes and IBD chromosome browser is very good and accurate. Also Lukasz's services is very good.

The commercial dna calculator not good. The raw data quality most important for me. Many models and calculators give me a right results. I'm a mixed person too. I have a Central Asia, Anatolia, Middle East and Balkan(Slav+natives) and Meditarrenean genes.

Most of people dna's is very close. It's very normal. Also most of peoples don't know their ancestry.

I've done everything. Like I mentioned Davidski said NOBODY will nail my ancestry 100%. Never. I know I am very mixed with peoples from all over the world. I think it's cool myself. Being just white is boring. That is why the racists here are so angry.

karakartal
04-01-2019, 04:40 PM
I've done everything. Like I mentioned Davidski said NOBODY will nail my ancestry 100%. Never.

I think every people have a same situation. We are just guess it. And i see your results; your guess is right i think. You was look your family papers, talk about your ancestry with family members and do a genetic testing and you have an idea by your ancestry.

Chaos One
04-01-2019, 04:41 PM
It's clear that mixed people (and more mixed, worse) face some problems in terms of results no only at Gedmatch but commercial calculators, too. If even people who have should have equal DNA get different results (the video with 2 twins getting different numbers was somewhat clear about it), image one person getting different results all the time because the samplers can misguide any result at all.

Of course people who are 95%+ related to an specific ethnical group will probably get it easily, but more mixed you are, more different results will appear. I got 0% SSA to 14% on different places, 3% Native American to 10%, 3% North African to 10%, 1% ASI to 7%...

Slavic Italian
04-01-2019, 04:44 PM
It's clear that mixed people (and more mixed, worse) face some problems in terms of results no only at Gedmatch but commercial calculators, too. If even people who have should have equal DNA get different results (the video with 2 twins getting different numbers was somewhat clear about it), image one person getting different results all the time because the samplers can misguide any result at all.

Of course people who are 95%+ related to an specific ethnical group will probably get it easily, but more mixed you are, more different results will appear. I got 0% SSA to 14% on different places, 3% Native American to 10%, 3% North African to 10%, 1% ASI to 7%...

Yep. I am just happy Davidski clarified these things for me. There are about 5% of us internationally in the same boat.

El_Abominacion
04-01-2019, 04:52 PM
GEDmatch oracles in particular are pretty useless for mixed people.

Slavic Italian
04-01-2019, 04:53 PM
GEDmatch oracles in particular are pretty useless for mixed people.

I use all of them and get different results from almost every one of them but I do believe they can provide you with "some" insights. Davidski said 4 population models are worthless for people like me.

El_Abominacion
04-01-2019, 04:57 PM
I use all of them and get different results from almost every one of them but I do believe they can provide you with "some" insights. Davidski said 4 population models are worthless for people like me.

Most of them just give me something insane like a Somali/Roma/Uzbek/Puerto Rican mix when i'm neither of those groups. Hopefully they will improve the database with time

Chaos One
04-01-2019, 04:59 PM
GEDmatch oracles in particular are pretty useless for mixed people.

Not the Oracle only, but sometimes the results at all. I think you and me are the most mixed guys here in TA actually and you probably faced some huge different numbers from different calculators or commercial testing results.

firemonkey
04-01-2019, 10:51 PM
Some of us are so mixed no calculator is going to come close to giving us a good estimate of our ethnicities. I am such a person. Even Davidski told me these models are not going to be spot on for me. They will, however, provide me with enough insights of my ancestry. These are my foreign matches. Of course Slavic people are Slavic people. But this is an example of how mixed a person can be and no calculator is going to nail it 100%.

Great Britain-319 DNA Matches
Canada-127 DNA Matches
Finland- 112 DNA Matches(Some of my larger matches)
Australia-104 DNA Matches
Germany-73 DNA Matches(Several are from Russia)
Sweden-44 DNA Matches
New Zealand-40 DNA Matches
Netherlands-32 DNA Matches
Ireland-29 DNA Matches(A few strong matches)
Norway-27 DNA Matches
France-22 DNA Matches
Denmark-15 DNA Matches
Austria-12 DNA Matches
Italy-10 DNA Matches
Spain-9 DNA Matches
Switzerland-9 DNA Matches
Poland-6 DNA Matches
Russia-6 DNA Matches
Belgium-5 DNA Matches
Brazil-5 DNA Matches
South Africa-2 DNA Matches
Argentina-2 DNA Matches
United Arab Emirates- 2 DNA Matches(1 is from Czech Republic)
Bermuda-2 Matches
Hungary-2 Matches
Slovakia-2 Matches
Mexico-2 Matches
Ukraine-2 Matches(1 strong match family is from Russia)
Indonesia-1 Match
Romania-1 Match
Venezuela-1 Match
Singapore-1 Match
Serbia-1 Match
Kazakhstan-1 Match(She is from Russia)
Oman-1 Match
Portugal-1 Match
Angola-1
Luxembourg-1
Czech Republic-1
Latvia-1
Malta-1
Belarus-1
Ethiopia-1
Bulgaria-1
Barbados-1

23&me
China-4 Matches(All 4 are natives)
Japan-4 Matches(All 4 are natives)
I also match with the Korean samples from Devil's Gate.

Ancestry DNA
Iran-1 match

Where are those matches from- Ancestry dna ?

dududud
04-03-2019, 07:23 AM
GEDmatch oracles in particular are pretty useless for mixed people.

For me, its just very precise on the K15 oracle:

Primary Population:
1 79.4% French + 20.6% Sardinian @ 2.56

arkas
04-06-2019, 05:08 AM
GEDmatch oracles in particular are pretty useless for mixed people.

It really is useless for mixed people, I get Romani and Jewish a lot :lol:

Slavic Italian
04-27-2019, 12:06 AM
Where are those matches from- Ancestry dna ?

My Heritage.