Croat (Western Herzegovina) gedmatch

[Adam Janossy]

Very close Y dna relative of my father, I-PH908. Interesting that autosomaly Stears matches him too due to Croatian ancestry.

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 32.87
2 North_Atlantic 28.19
3 West_Med 16.08
4 East_Med 14.23
5 West_Asian 3.96
6 Siberian 1.22
7 Amerindian 1.16
8 South_Asian 1.15
9 Red_Sea 0.66
10 Sub-Saharan 0.37
11 Northeast_African 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

1 Croatian 6.44
2 Hungarian 6.67
3 Moldavian 7.04
4 Serbian 7.37
5 Austrian 10.39
6 East_German 10.74
7 Romanian 10.96
8 South_Polish 12.03
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.07
10 Ukrainian 12.71
11 Bulgarian 13.07
12 Polish 15.44
13 Southwest_Russian 16.4
14 West_German 16.93
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.21
16 Russian_Smolensk 17.85
17 Estonian_Polish 17.9
18 South_Dutch 18.18
19 Belorussian 18.41
20 French 19.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 57.3% Estonian_Polish + 42.7% Tuscan @ 3.11
2 50.9% Lithuanian + 49.1% Tuscan @ 3.32
3 56.6% Belorussian + 43.4% Tuscan @ 3.37
4 57% Southwest_Russian + 43% North_Italian @ 3.49
5 54.8% Estonian_Polish + 45.2% North_Italian @ 3.5
6 66% Ukrainian + 34% Tuscan @ 3.62
7 54.1% Belorussian + 45.9% North_Italian @ 3.73
8 56.3% Estonian + 43.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.81
9 52.3% Estonian + 47.7% Tuscan @ 3.89
10 57.5% Russian_Smolensk + 42.5% Tuscan @ 4.06
11 61.2% Polish + 38.8% Tuscan @ 4.08
12 63.8% Ukrainian + 36.2% North_Italian @ 4.12
13 51.7% North_Italian + 48.3% Lithuanian @ 4.13
14 67.6% South_Polish + 32.4% Tuscan @ 4.2
15 59.7% Southwest_Russian + 40.3% Tuscan @ 4.22
16 54.9% Russian_Smolensk + 45.1% North_Italian @ 4.31
17 71.1% South_Polish + 28.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.33
18 69.8% Ukrainian + 30.2% West_Sicilian @ 4.33
19 65.1% Polish + 34.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.33
20 51% Greek_Thessaly + 49% Estonian @ 4.4

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 21.14
2 North_Sea 18.55
3 Atlantic 18.39
4 Eastern_Euro 13.31
5 East_Med 11.81
6 West_Med 11.66
7 West_Asian 2.51
8 Amerindian 0.94
9 Siberian 0.58
10 South_Asian 0.48
11 Sub-Saharan 0.33
12 Red_Sea 0.3


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Single Population Sharing:

1 Croatian 6.58
2 Hungarian 7.32
3 Austrian 7.71
4 Serbian 7.8
5 Moldavian 7.98
6 Romanian 10.2
7 East_German 11.35
8 South_Polish 11.59
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.64
10 Bulgarian 11.94
11 Ukrainian 12.05
12 Polish 13.53
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.51
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.62
15 Southwest_Russian 15.63
16 Southwest_Finnish 16.3
17 Belorussian 16.31
18 Estonian_Polish 16.39
19 South_Dutch 17.07
20 Finnish 17.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 51.2% North_Italian + 48.8% Lithuanian @ 4.08
2 51.4% Lithuanian + 48.6% Tuscan @ 4.16
3 56.4% Belorussian + 43.6% Tuscan @ 4.32
4 65.3% Polish + 34.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.36
5 53.9% Belorussian + 46.1% North_Italian @ 4.38
6 61.4% Polish + 38.6% Tuscan @ 4.5
7 56.3% Estonian_Polish + 43.7% Tuscan @ 4.5
8 57.8% Estonian + 42.2% West_Sicilian @ 4.55
9 53.5% Estonian + 46.5% Tuscan @ 4.55
10 55% Southwest_Russian + 45% North_Italian @ 4.59
11 68.4% Ukrainian + 31.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.65
12 71.7% Polish + 28.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.72
13 69.4% South_Polish + 30.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.74
14 53.8% Estonian_Polish + 46.2% North_Italian @ 4.77
15 64.6% Ukrainian + 35.4% Tuscan @ 4.78
16 51.8% Estonian + 48.2% Greek @ 4.82
17 71.2% Polish + 28.8% Italian_Jewish @ 4.89
18 65.8% South_Polish + 34.2% Tuscan @ 4.91
19 68.8% Polish + 31.2% South_Italian @ 4.95
20 59.9% Polish + 40.1% Greek @ 4.97

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Croatian as fuck.

[Voskos]

Scores very hogh greek on the mixed mode, i assume its a proxy for native ancestry.

[Max Soldo]

Who is this and which test is this?

[Adam Janossy]

Who is this and which test is this?

His surname is Čorić. Eurogenes K13 & K15.

[Max Soldo]

His surname is Čorić. Eurogenes K13 & K15.

Corici are pretty much all down in Citluk, Medjugorje, and now, Mostar.

[Max Soldo]

K13


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.56
2 North_Atlantic 25.91
3 West_Med 13.55
4 East_Med 11.86
5 West_Asian 6.66
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Amerindian 0.73
8 East_Asian 0.64
9 Siberian 0.56
10 South_Asian 0.47
11 Sub-Saharan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.21
2 Moldavian 5.17
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.2
4 Hungarian 7.92
5 South_Polish 8.04
6 Ukrainian 8.08
7 Serbian 10.22
8 Polish 11.11
9 Southwest_Russian 11.15
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.66
11 East_German 12.08
12 Austrian 12.42
13 Russian_Smolensk 12.85
14 Estonian_Polish 13.19
15 Romanian 13.77
16 Belorussian 13.8
17 Bulgarian 15.55
18 Kargopol_Russian 15.79
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.39
20 Erzya 17.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.2% Estonian_Polish + 45.8% Bulgarian @ 1.5
2 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Italian_Jewish @ 1.57
3 63.6% Lithuanian + 36.4% West_Sicilian @ 1.57
4 80.7% Ukrainian + 19.3% Ashkenazi @ 1.58
5 64.9% Estonian_Polish + 35.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.58
6 53% Belorussian + 47% Bulgarian @ 1.61
7 51.1% Estonian_Polish + 48.9% Romanian @ 1.63
8 63.8% Belorussian + 36.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.65
9 70.9% Estonian_Polish + 29.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.67
10 83.7% Ukrainian + 16.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.72
11 73.1% Estonian_Polish + 26.9% South_Italian @ 1.72
12 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.74
13 57% Lithuanian + 43% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.74
14 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.76
15 70.1% Estonian_Polish + 29.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.82
16 75.1% Polish + 24.9% Ashkenazi @ 1.86
17 70.5% Estonian_Polish + 29.5% Central_Greek @ 1.87
18 84.8% Ukrainian + 15.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.89
19 71.5% Russian_Smolensk + 28.5% West_Sicilian @ 1.89
20 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Lithuanian @ 1.91

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 3.638055
2 Moldavian @ 5.816737
3 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.260010
4 Hungarian @ 9.028143
5 South_Polish @ 9.182208
6 Ukrainian @ 9.227838
7 Serbian @ 11.565655
8 Southwest_Russian @ 12.573189
9 Polish @ 12.737400
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 13.212790
11 East_German @ 13.901258
12 Austrian @ 14.234416
13 Russian_Smolensk @ 14.633544
14 Estonian_Polish @ 14.996794
15 Belorussian @ 15.646497
16 Romanian @ 15.662062
17 Kargopol_Russian @ 17.596548
18 Bulgarian @ 17.735836
19 Erzya @ 19.417906
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 19.800667

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +50% Romanian @ 1.779136


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Croatian +25% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.525921


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Belorussian + Croatian + Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly @ 1.395683
2 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Serbian @ 1.439072
3 Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Serbian @ 1.455109
4 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + South_Italian + Ukrainian @ 1.476811
5 Croatian + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly @ 1.495454
6 Belorussian + Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Serbian @ 1.505277
7 Belorussian + Belorussian + Croatian + Greek_Thessaly @ 1.525921
8 Belorussian + Belorussian + South_Italian + Ukrainian @ 1.548141
9 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Polish + South_Italian @ 1.566728
10 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + South_Italian + Ukrainian @ 1.615616
11 Belorussian + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 1.617654
12 Estonian_Polish + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 1.617889
13 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Serbian @ 1.627264
14 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Serbian @ 1.627536
15 Croatian + Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + West_Sicilian @ 1.642035
16 Belorussian + Croatian + Greek_Thessaly + Russian_Smolensk @ 1.643572
17 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Polish + South_Italian @ 1.650622
18 Belorussian + East_Sicilian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 1.652182
19 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian @ 1.654501
20 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 1.660573

[Max Soldo]

K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.01
2 North_Sea 19.29
3 Eastern_Euro 16.3
4 Atlantic 15.67
5 West_Med 9.26
6 East_Med 8.22
7 West_Asian 5.38
8 Red_Sea 2.12
9 South_Asian 0.33
10 Amerindian 0.28
11 Southeast_Asian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.11
2 Moldavian 4.45
3 Hungarian 6.08
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.74
5 South_Polish 6.99
6 Ukrainian 7.38
7 Austrian 8.26
8 Serbian 9.04
9 Polish 9.46
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.21
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.52
12 East_German 10.68
13 Southwest_Russian 10.83
14 Romanian 11.56
15 Belorussian 12.17
16 Estonian_Polish 12.26
17 Bulgarian 13.85
18 Kargopol_Russian 14.18
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.44
20 Estonian 14.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.4% Polish + 30.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.25
2 63.7% Serbian + 36.3% Lithuanian @ 1.46
3 83.9% South_Polish + 16.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.5
4 83.5% South_Polish + 16.5% Italian_Jewish @ 1.56
5 79.6% Ukrainian + 20.4% West_Sicilian @ 1.66
6 83.1% Ukrainian + 16.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.68
7 79.8% South_Polish + 20.2% Ashkenazi @ 1.73
8 83.9% South_Polish + 16.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.77
9 85.2% South_Polish + 14.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.79
10 74.9% Polish + 25.1% Central_Greek @ 1.8
11 74.2% Polish + 25.8% Ashkenazi @ 1.82
12 85.2% South_Polish + 14.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.91
13 78.9% Ukrainian + 21.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.92
14 76% South_Polish + 24% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.95
15 75.4% Polish + 24.6% East_Sicilian @ 1.95
16 83.4% Ukrainian + 16.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.97
17 80.9% South_Polish + 19.1% East_Sicilian @ 1.98
18 82.9% Ukrainian + 17.1% Italian_Jewish @ 1.99
19 85.9% South_Polish + 14.1% Cyprian @ 1.99
20 75.8% Ukrainian + 24.2% Greek @ 2.02

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 3.575072
2 Moldavian @ 5.067605
3 Hungarian @ 7.067440
4 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.803011
5 South_Polish @ 8.094961
6 Ukrainian @ 8.554295
7 Austrian @ 9.594248
8 Serbian @ 10.409708
9 Polish @ 10.975070
10 Russian_Smolensk @ 11.751933
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 12.100362
12 Southwest_Russian @ 12.422855
13 East_German @ 12.481360
14 Romanian @ 13.441813
15 Belorussian @ 13.971404
16 Estonian_Polish @ 14.181146
17 Kargopol_Russian @ 16.025404
18 Bulgarian @ 16.148697
19 Finnish @ 16.470482
20 Estonian @ 16.560123

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% Ukrainian @ 2.680840


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Hungarian @ 1.363056


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian @ 1.363056
2 Estonian_Polish + Italian_Abruzzo + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.366858
3 Ashkenazi + Polish + Polish + Ukrainian @ 1.386683
4 Central_Greek + Polish + Polish + Ukrainian @ 1.484745
5 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian @ 1.491905
6 Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + Southwest_Russian @ 1.493700
7 Belorussian + Italian_Abruzzo + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.503471
8 Belorussian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 1.512827
9 Central_Greek + Estonian_Polish + Polish + Ukrainian @ 1.563311
10 Estonian_Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 1.569397
11 Greek + Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.599997
12 Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + Polish @ 1.604830
13 East_Sicilian + Estonian_Polish + Polish + Ukrainian @ 1.612981
14 Southwest_Russian + Tuscan + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 1.631024
15 East_Sicilian + Polish + Polish + Ukrainian @ 1.647253
16 Belorussian + East_Sicilian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 1.700251
17 Belorussian + Central_Greek + Polish + Ukrainian @ 1.705640
18 Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian + West_Sicilian @ 1.711737
19 Greek + Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.714528
20 Tuscan + Ukrainian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.714545

[Ayetooey]

Whats his gedmatch name or kit number?

[Max Soldo]

Above results are mine.

[Ayetooey]

Corici are pretty much all down in Citluk, Medjugorje, and now, Mostar.

What do you know of the surname Glamuzina?

[Max Soldo]

What do you know of the surname Glamuzina?


From my files:


8. Glamuzine su iz Čalića kod Čitluka, gdje ih nalaze popisi katolika 1743. i 1768. godine. Još ranije spomene imamo s druge strane današnje granice. Marko Glamuzina iz Brotnja je otac krštenika u Miluši kod Vrgorca u Dalmaciji 1721. godine, a iz mletačkih dokumenata iz okolice Vrgorca imamo i podatak iz 1694. godine da je starije prezime Glamuzina Maretić.

[Adam Janossy]

Above results are mine.

Typical Croatian.

[Max Soldo]

Typical Croatian.

Frankly I'm quite surprised. I thought I'd land right halfway between Croatian and Serbian.

[Leto]

Above results are mine.
Wow, very Eastern European! 37% is a hell of a lot for a South Slav. A bit more Baltic (+ 3-5%), a bit less East & Wed (- 2-3%) and you would be a normal Ukrainian.
Can you post Dodecad K12b and MDLP K23b?

[CommonSense]

Here you go, I believe he plots rather close to you and HungryLion:

https://i.imgur.com/Cdm40qb.png


Kind of makes you think if Insuperable is actually a Croat or just a butthurt Montenigga in disguise :)

[HungryLion]

Here you go, I believe he plots rather close to you and HungryLion:

https://i.imgur.com/Cdm40qb.png


Kind of makes you think if Insuperable is actually a Croat or just a butthurt Montenigga in disguise :)

This guy is almost same like me..
Is he PH908? He polts more western, like Serbs from krajina, just have more slavic input, like me..

[Leto]

This guy is almost same like me..
Is he PH908? He polts more western, like Serbs from krajina, just have more slavic input, like me..
I bet he is around 45% North European on Dodecad. His Baltic percentage is really high (37%).

[HungryLion]

I bet he is around 45% North European on Dodecad. His Baltic percentage is really high (37%).

Could be..Well I am only 43%...atlantic medd ate part of my
north atlantic on dodecad...

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

This guy is almost same like me..
Is he PH908? He polts more western, like Serbs from krajina, just have more slavic input, like me..

He plots like typical Croat and you plot like extremely atypical Serb.

[Leto]

@Max Soldo, come on, post what I asked you for! :)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Here you go, I believe he plots rather close to you and HungryLion:

https://i.imgur.com/Cdm40qb.png


Kind of makes you think if Insuperable is actually a Croat or just a butthurt Montenigga in disguise :)

Dude never actually showed his results. Makes me wonder lmao.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

@Max Soldo, come on, post what I asked you for! :)

Max is native Illyrian J2b2 on both parents sides iirc.

[Max Soldo]

Max is native Illyrian J2b2 on both parents sides iirc.

Only on my father's side. Direct paternal line Z631 and father's mother's father's line PH1602.

[HungryLion]

Only on my father's side. Direct paternal line Z631 and father's mother's father's line PH1602.

You are J2b-M241 ? Bc it is only which we can call Ilyrian for now.

[HungryLion]

He plots like typical Croat and you plot like extremely atypical Serb.

Well he is kinda to much western for typical Croatian sample.