Tatar girl GEDmatch

[Leto]

From Tatarstan (no further info). She looks very East Eurasian for someone who is only around 20%. Just goes to show that sometimes even a relatively small amount can be apparent in phenotype.
Photos:
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MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 34.58
2 Caucasian 20.93
3 Ancestral_Altaic 9.16
4 East_Siberian 8.81
5 European_Early_Farmers 5.72
6 South_Central_Asian 4.68
7 Tungus-Altaic 4.45
8 Paleo_Siberian 2.01
9 South_Indian 1.84
10 South_East_Asian 1.75
11 Near_East 1.55
12 Australoid 1.27
13 Melano_Polynesian 0.94
14 Arctic 0.78
15 Amerindian 0.75
16 Subsaharian 0.73
17 North_African 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar ( ) 3.51
2 Russian-Ural ( ) 4.84
3 Tatar-Kazan ( ) 5.4
4 Tatar-Mishar ( ) 5.5
5 Tatar_Kryashen ( ) 5.73
6 Tatar_Mishar ( ) 6.44
7 Chuvashs ( ) 7.29
8 Russian-North ( ) 7.45
9 Finn_East ( ) 7.47
10 Erzya ( ) 7.51
11 Finnish-East ( ) 7.73
12 Finnish_FIN ( ) 7.87
13 Karelian ( ) 7.87
14 Vepsa ( ) 8.07
15 Finn ( ) 8.21
16 Komi ( ) 8.42
17 Russian_Vologda ( ) 9.41
18 Saami_Kola ( ) 10.04
19 Chuvash ( ) 10.34
20 Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) 10.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83% Russian-Ural ( ) + 17% Uzbek ( ) @ 2.72
2 84.5% Russian-Ural ( ) + 15.5% Tajik_Tajikistan ( ) @ 2.76
3 82.9% Russian-Ural ( ) + 17.1% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 2.76
4 73.2% Chuvashs ( ) + 26.8% Slovak ( ) @ 2.78
5 74.5% Chuvashs ( ) + 25.5% Czech ( ) @ 2.82
6 70.6% Chuvashs ( ) + 29.4% German ( ) @ 2.82
7 62.7% Tatar-Mishar ( ) + 37.3% Komi ( ) @ 2.83
8 60.2% Moksha ( ) + 39.8% Bashkir ( ) @ 2.83
9 94.9% Tatar ( ) + 5.1% Roma_BH ( ) @ 2.83
10 77.1% Tatar ( ) + 22.9% Erzya ( ) @ 2.84
11 93.7% Tatar ( ) + 6.3% Roma_Slovenian ( ) @ 2.84
12 94.7% Tatar ( ) + 5.3% Roma_Bulgarian ( ) @ 2.85
13 71.8% Chuvashs ( ) + 28.2% Kashub ( ) @ 2.86
14 63.4% Tatar-Kazan ( ) + 36.6% Komi ( ) @ 2.86
15 88.8% Tatar ( ) + 11.2% German ( ) @ 2.87
16 58.8% Tatar-Mishar ( ) + 41.2% Chuvashs ( ) @ 2.87
17 65.9% Tatar ( ) + 34.1% Russian-Ural ( ) @ 2.87
18 65.9% Chuvashs ( ) + 34.1% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 2.88
19 71.5% Chuvashs ( ) + 28.5% Sorb ( ) @ 2.88
20 86.6% Tatar ( ) + 13.4% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 2.88


MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 25.13
2 Caucasian 20.2
3 Steppe 17.52
4 Neolithic 14.14
5 Siberian 10.37
6 SouthEastAsian 3.91
7 Indian 3.57
8 Arctic 3.05
9 Amerindian 1.31
10 Oceanic 0.29
11 NorthAfrican 0.28
12 Australian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) 4.08
2 Tatars (Tatarstan) 4.2
3 Kryashen (Bashkortostan) 4.39
4 Komi (Komi_Republic) 6.91
5 Russian (NorthRussia) 10.86
6 Erzya_Moksha (Mordovia) 10.91
7 Russian (Kostroma) 11.07
8 Udmurd (Udmurtia) 11.18
9 Lipka_Tatar (Belorus) 11.51
10 Russian (Pinega) 11.55
11 Bashkir (Ilbragimovo) 11.74
12 Chuvash (Chuvashia) 11.78
13 Mari (Mari_El) 12.32
14 Vepsa (Russia) 12.36
15 Cossack (Kuban) 12.55
16 Belarusian_East (EastBelarus) 12.83
17 Russian (CentralRussia) 12.96
18 Russian (SouthRussia) 12.96
19 Russian (Tver) 13
20 Finn (NorthFinland) 13.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.4% Belarusian_West (WestBelarus) + 39.6% Bashkir (Muradymovo) @ 2.46
2 96.8% Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) + 3.2% Itelmen (Kamchatka) @ 2.53
3 60.7% Russian (SouthRussia) + 39.3% Bashkir (Ufa) @ 2.56
4 96.6% Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) + 3.4% Koryak (Koryak_Okrug) @ 2.6
5 60.9% Belarusian_East (EastBelarus) + 39.1% Bashkir (Ufa) @ 2.61
6 62.2% Russian (SouthRussia) + 37.8% Bashkir (Muradymovo) @ 2.65
7 59.8% Belarusian_East (EastBelarus) + 40.2% Bashkir (Bashkortostan) @ 2.66
8 76.6% Tatars (Tatarstan) + 23.4% Erzya_Moksha (Mordovia) @ 2.68
9 63.4% Ingrians (Ingermanland) + 36.6% Turkmen (Xojayli) @ 2.72
10 82.2% Tatars (Tatarstan) + 17.8% Russians-West (WestRussian) @ 2.75
11 83.9% Tatars (Tatarstan) + 16.1% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) @ 2.76
12 51.4% Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) + 48.6% Tatars (Tatarstan) @ 2.8
13 96.5% Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) + 3.5% Eskimo_Sireniki (Sirenki) @ 2.84
14 70.2% Erzya_Moksha (Mordovia) + 29.8% Turkmen (Shumanay) @ 2.84
15 96% Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) + 4% Chukchi (Chukotka) @ 2.87
16 58.8% Pole (Poland) + 41.2% Bashkir (Ufa) @ 2.87
17 80.9% Tatars (Tatarstan) + 19.1% Russian (Russia) @ 2.88
18 96.5% Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) + 3.5% Eskimo (Chaplin) @ 2.88
19 67% Cossack (Kuban) + 33% Turkmen (Shumanay) @ 2.9
20 57.8% Belarusian_West (WestBelarus) + 42.2% Bashkir (Bashkortostan) @ 2.91


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 38.55
2 North_Atlantic 17.87
3 Siberian 11.96
4 West_Asian 9.03
5 East_Med 5.34
6 East_Asian 4.79
7 West_Med 4.12
8 Amerindian 2.8
9 South_Asian 2.57
10 Oceanian 1.61
11 Red_Sea 0.85
12 Sub-Saharan 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar 6.51
2 Chuvash 10.73
3 Erzya 13.51
4 Kargopol_Russian 14.1
5 Southwest_Russian 16.09
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.53
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.63
8 Mari 17.11
9 Ukrainian 17.17
10 Moldavian 17.74
11 East_Finnish 17.77
12 South_Polish 18.42
13 Croatian 18.6
14 Russian_Smolensk 18.65
15 Estonian_Polish 18.71
16 Finnish 19.3
17 Belorussian 19.42
18 Polish 19.43
19 Hungarian 20.9
20 Estonian 21.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29% Shors @ 3.58
2 72.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.2% Hakas @ 3.72
3 71.7% Southwest_Russian + 28.3% Shors @ 4.04
4 73.5% Southwest_Russian + 26.5% Hakas @ 4.1
5 75.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 24.2% Altaian @ 4.24
6 72.2% Erzya + 27.8% Uzbeki @ 4.28
7 70.8% Erzya + 29.2% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.31
8 71.2% Kargopol_Russian + 28.8% Uzbeki @ 4.44
9 69.9% Kargopol_Russian + 30.1% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.51
10 74.1% Erzya + 25.9% Uygur @ 4.51
11 63.8% Chuvash + 36.2% Moldavian @ 4.55
12 74.3% Erzya + 25.7% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.56
13 72.1% Southwest_Russian + 27.9% Kazakh @ 4.58
14 73.4% Tatar + 26.6% Erzya @ 4.61
15 75.3% Erzya + 24.7% Hazara @ 4.61
16 76.5% Southwest_Russian + 23.5% Altaian @ 4.62
17 74.2% Southwest_Russian + 25.8% Kirgiz @ 4.64
18 69.8% Chuvash + 30.2% Serbian @ 4.66
19 78.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 21.3% Tuvinian @ 4.69
20 77.7% Erzya + 22.3% Kirgiz @ 4.71

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Belorussian +25% Chuvash +25% Uzbeki @ 3.341926

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Belorussian + Chuvash + Southwest_Russian + Uzbeki @ 3.026432
2 Chuvash + Estonian_Polish + Southwest_Russian + Uzbeki @ 3.069321
3 Chuvash + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian + Uzbeki @ 3.190809
4 Belorussian + Chuvash + Estonian_Polish + Uzbeki @ 3.262859
5 Chuvash + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Uzbeki @ 3.267069
6 Chuvash + Southwest_Russian + Southwest_Russian + Uzbeki @ 3.279107
7 Belorussian + Chuvash + Ukrainian_Belgorod + Uzbeki @ 3.288657
8 Belorussian + Chuvash + Erzya + Uzbeki @ 3.301990
9 Belorussian + Mari + Southwest_Russian + Uzbeki @ 3.320971
10 Chuvash + Estonian_Polish + Ukrainian_Belgorod + Uzbeki @ 3.336418
11 Belorussian + Belorussian + Chuvash + Uzbeki @ 3.341926


puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 44.47
2 SW_Europe 15.98
3 Siberia 12.12
4 West_Asia 10.71
5 NE_Asia 5.53
6 SW_Asia 2.54
7 Americas 2.2
8 South_Asia 1.95
9 SE_Asia 1.75
10 West_Africa 1.4
11 Oceania 1.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tatar 5
2 Chuvash 8.92
3 Aluet 13.84
4 Mordovian 15.76
5 Russian 18.91
6 Ukrainian 19.46
7 Moldavian 19.47
8 Slovak 19.62
9 Belarusian 20.44
10 Slovene 20.54
11 German_North 21.33
12 Hungarian 21.77
13 Bosnian 22.12
14 Croatian 22.65
15 Polish 22.97
16 Norwegian 23
17 Swedish 23.17
18 Utahn_European 23.18
19 Irish 23.47
20 English 23.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.9% Tatar + 12.1% Finnish @ 3.43
2 87.8% Tatar + 12.2% Latvian @ 3.49
3 87.8% Tatar + 12.2% Lithuanian @ 3.53
4 87.4% Tatar + 12.6% Estonian @ 3.54
5 84% Tatar + 16% Russian @ 3.55
6 86.9% Tatar + 13.1% Polish @ 3.65
7 82.3% Tatar + 17.7% Mordovian @ 3.77
8 86.1% Tatar + 13.9% Belarusian @ 3.82
9 88.8% Tatar + 11.2% Swedish @ 4.1
10 72.1% Mordovian + 27.9% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.2
11 87.7% Tatar + 12.3% Ukrainian @ 4.24
12 89.5% Tatar + 10.5% Norwegian @ 4.25
13 89.6% Tatar + 10.4% German_North @ 4.38
14 90.8% Tatar + 9.2% Utahn_European @ 4.44
15 89.8% Tatar + 10.2% Slovak @ 4.51
16 91.8% Tatar + 8.2% Irish @ 4.56
17 92.1% Tatar + 7.9% Orcadian @ 4.59
18 91.1% Tatar + 8.9% Slovene @ 4.61
19 92.2% Tatar + 7.8% English @ 4.61
20 92.6% Tatar + 7.4% Scottish @ 4.65

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + Finnish + Utahn_European @ 3.374587
2 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + Finnish + Irish @ 3.454678
3 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + Finnish + Orcadian @ 3.463177
4 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Finnish + Scottish @ 3.478901
5 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + English + Finnish @ 3.482465
6 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Finnish + Irish @ 3.485041
7 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Finnish + Orcadian @ 3.489974
8 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + English + Finnish @ 3.498096
9 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Finnish + Utahn_European @ 3.500902
10 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + Finnish + Scottish @ 3.503335
11 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Finnish + German_North @ 3.557986
12 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Mordovian + Polish @ 3.644626
13 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + Finnish + Norwegian @ 3.657344
14 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + Finnish + German_North @ 3.677036
15 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + Estonian + Mordovian @ 3.678098
16 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Belarusian + Russian @ 3.706040
17 Afghan_Hazara + Belarusian + Chuvash + Russian @ 3.718468
18 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Finnish + German_South @ 3.742515
19 Afghan_Hazara + Chuvash + Mordovian + Polish @ 3.744719
20 Afghan_Hazara + Aluet + Belarusian + Mordovian @ 3.746811


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 44.11
2 Atlantic_Med 13.67
3 Siberian 12.2
4 Caucasus 10.89
5 Gedrosia 6.9
6 East_Asian 4.04
7 Southeast_Asian 3.51
8 South_Asian 2.28
9 Southwest_Asian 2.23
10 Northwest_African 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chuvashs (Behar) 14.06
2 Hungarians (Behar) 19.59
3 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 20.26
4 Russian (HGDP) 21.42
5 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 22.79
6 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 23.39
7 German (Dodecad) 23.4
8 Russian (Dodecad) 23.81
9 Polish (Dodecad) 24.28
10 Russian_B (Behar) 24.46
11 Romanians (Behar) 24.83
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 25.88
13 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 26.53
14 Belorussian (Behar) 26.85
15 Swedish (Dodecad) 26.9
16 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 27.76
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 28.38
18 Dutch (Dodecad) 28.47
19 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 29.84
20 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 30.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74% Chuvashs (Behar) + 26% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 6.17
2 76.4% Chuvashs (Behar) + 23.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 6.41
3 75.6% Chuvashs (Behar) + 24.4% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 6.42
4 73.5% Chuvashs (Behar) + 26.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 6.44
5 76.3% Chuvashs (Behar) + 23.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 6.46
6 76.2% Chuvashs (Behar) + 23.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 6.5
7 76.8% Chuvashs (Behar) + 23.2% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 6.53
8 77.8% Chuvashs (Behar) + 22.2% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 6.55
9 75.7% Chuvashs (Behar) + 24.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 6.58
10 78.6% Chuvashs (Behar) + 21.4% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 6.6
11 77.5% Chuvashs (Behar) + 22.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 6.6
12 76% Chuvashs (Behar) + 24% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 6.73
13 77.6% Chuvashs (Behar) + 22.4% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 6.78
14 78% Chuvashs (Behar) + 22% Spaniards (Behar) @ 6.86
15 77.3% Chuvashs (Behar) + 22.7% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 6.88
16 78% Chuvashs (Behar) + 22% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 6.88
17 78.7% Chuvashs (Behar) + 21.3% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 6.93
18 76.4% Chuvashs (Behar) + 23.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 6.96
19 79% Chuvashs (Behar) + 21% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 7.06
20 79.3% Chuvashs (Behar) + 20.7% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 7.13


Eurogenes_ANE K7

Population
ANE 20.38 Pct
ASE 4.39 Pct
WHG-UHG 46.82 Pct
East_Eurasian 14.93 Pct
West_African -
East_African 1.17 Pct
ENF 12.31 Pct

[JMack]

20% is a lot. When you have 10-20% of blood from other race you can identify as mixed race if you want imo. 20% is almost like having a full grandparent from another race.

[Leto]

20% is a lot. When you have 10-20% of blood from other race you can identify as mixed race if you want imo. 20% is almost like having a full grandparent from another race.
They are an old ethnic group, they don't have that mestizo/mulatto mentality which is common for racially mixed groups or individuals. All Tatars are like 15-25% East Eurasian but phenotypes vary greatly - from North European to Central Asian. They don't really care, culture and religion is more important to them.

[Prinses]

They are an old ethnic group, they don't have that mestizo/mulatto mentality which is common for racially mixed groups or individuals. All Tatars are like 15-25% East Eurasian but phenotypes vary greatly - from North European to Central Asian. They don't really care, culture and religion is more important to them.

As it should

[JMack]

They are an old ethnic group, they don't have that mestizo/mulatto mentality which is common for racially mixed groups or individuals. All Tatars are like 15-25% East Eurasian but phenotypes vary greatly - from North European to Central Asian. They don't really care, culture and religion is more important to them.

Well, it doesn't change the fact they are biologically mixed race; I would even say someone with 5% or more is racially admixed. I couldn't care less about what they think.

[Leto]

I couldn't care less about what they think.
Then why should I or we do? I don't even know who the hell you are, I'm seeing you for the first time.

[JMack]

Then why should I or we do? I don't even know who the hell you are, I'm seeing you for the first time.

Well, this is a genetics discussion in a genetics session of the forum. Why it shouldn't be discussed in the first place?

I'm just commenting the results.

[kietosarmeno]

I'm only around 9% and don't look it at all..hmmm maybe I just got unlucky.

[Leto]

I'm only around 9% and don't look it at all..hmmm maybe I just got unlucky.
I suggest you open a thread about your own GEDmatch results. You can also send me a photo (I never share what people show me privately).

[Kaspias]

I'm only around 9% and don't look it at all..hmmm maybe I just got unlucky.

Don't you have some vibes like cheekbones etc?

[Ogweed]

I always thought they are more 'slav'?:confused:

[Alenka]

I always thought they are more 'slav'?:confused:
Some are more Slav like for example Alina Kabaeva who is half Tatar half Russian. Especially in the last few decades many Tatars marry with Russians and other Slavs.