Classify Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite (aka Kaká)

[Rouxinol]

All his surnames are Portuguese, except for Izecson, which I have no idea where it originates. I'm not sure whether he has full Portuguese ancestry or if he has other European ethnicity or non-European admixture, yet there's something on his features/phenotype that strikes me as being very Brazilian-looking (probably due to a mixture of some sort which might occur often in Brazil).

http://www.abola.pt/img/fotos/fotosap/espanha/kaka2.jpg http://www.footballpictures.net/data/media/407/03kaka.jpg http://www.nowhavefun.com/celebritypictures/d/94605-1/29+Kaka+picture.jpg http://images.wikia.com/backofthenet/images/a/ae/Kaka.jpg http://kaka.footballfantalk.com/files/2009/06/kaka-press-conference.jpg http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13100000/Kak-Brazil-3-vs-Ivory-Coast-1-ricardo-kaka-13181234-396-594.jpg http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/10/21/1256122196898/Kaka-001.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Another one that I am in the minority for thinking he does not quite "fit".

:lol:
Something about him gives a South American vibe.

[Rouxinol]

Something about him gives a South American vibe.

That's my point. I don't know if it might be just bias.

[Sikeliot]

I don't think so. I see enough Brazilians to know that there is something in him that strikes me as South American, yet I can't place what it is. His eyes, perhaps? But maybe something in the mouth area. Not sure.

[Rouxinol]

I don't think so. I see enough Brazilians to know that there is something in him that strikes me as South American, yet I can't place what it is. His eyes, perhaps? But maybe something in the mouth area. Not sure.

Yes, the mouth area mostly, and in some pictures also the eyes and the hair. But not sure either.

[aherne]

100% pure White. He looks absolutely and typically European. Iberian + Cro-Magnid (akin that other Portuguese who posts here, only the Iberian element is dominant in this guy).

[Alvarado]

I don't see anything special in him.

[Sikeliot]

Yes, the mouth area mostly, and in some pictures also the eyes and the hair. But not sure either.

It's something very slight, but it's just the vibe I get.

He could very well be 100% European, for that matter. But I have seen very few Europeans with a vibe that seems South American.

[Rouxinol]

100% pure White. He looks absolutely and typically European. Iberian + Cro-Magnid (akin that other Portuguese who posts here, only the Iberian element is dominant in this guy).

Well, that's interesting to know. That's why I posted this here, to get impartial classifications. Since I'm always seeing mixed-race Brazilians everywhere around here I must have gotten some bias.

[Sikeliot]

I wish there was another Portuguese poster here who posted regularly, to give their opinion. I mean I don't think we're biased, because I could easily post Brazilians who look perfectly 100% Portuguese.

[Rouxinol]

I wish there was another Portuguese poster here who posted regularly, to give their opinion. I mean I don't think we're biased, because I could easily post Brazilians who look perfectly 100% Portuguese.

Like who? Just out of curiosity.

[Sikeliot]

People I know personally, not any celebrities or anything. :lol:

[alzo zero]

Atlanto-Med. I know a guy who looks exactly like him and, since he is from Cremona, Lombardia, he hardly has any Amerindian ancestry.

[Oreka Bailoak]

Really good looking progressive guy. He's very Atlanto-Med.

I had a Mexican friend that looked exactly like him and his ancestry was from Ireland, Poland and Portugal/Spain.

[Ibericus]

He is obviously at least 90% european, but something is odd in his face, in the eye area, maybe some minor african or amerindian, or both, in the 5-10% range. This happens to a lot of the "white" brazilians.

[Hess]

Fully Europid, or at least to the point where other features are next to invisible

[alzo zero]

Kakà's brother:

http://cdn.serverloft.de/854060_35/bilder/spieler/gross/59866.jpg

Kakà's parents:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bJelTLLYb4I/SiWAtAUkd-I/AAAAAAAAA84/H2o7wUgvByE/s400/bosco_leite.jpg

[Sikeliot]

He gets his slightly "odd" look from his mother, definitely. His father looks fully Portuguese.

[Lucretius]

He is obviously at least 90% european, but something is odd in his face, in the eye area, maybe some minor african or amerindian, or both, in the 5-10% range. This happens to a lot of the "white" brazilians.

I agree very much,just the same case of Messi.

[Laubach]

atlanto-med

Izecson é o seu segundo nome. Não é sobrenome.

[Rouxinol]

atlanto-med

Izecson é o seu segundo nome. Não é sobrenome.

At first I thought it was a surname, but then I come to think it could be a second given name. So it's part of his given name, thanks for clarifying.

By the way, I agree with the classification.

[curupira]

The parents of Kaka:

His mother:
http://i51.tinypic.com/2q35i14.jpg

And his father (the woman in the pic is the wife of Kaka):
http://i56.tinypic.com/sqjw2s.jpg

[MarceloBielsa]

white 100%?

[Slycooper]

Kaka looks like he has a little bit of non white in him. He has a Brazilian vibe

[Sikeliot]

He does have a South American vibe.

[Slycooper]

He is at least 75% Portuguese

[MarceloBielsa]

Kaka looks like he has a little bit of non white in him. He has a Brazilian vibe

Uhm, can be possible...5-10% amerindian?

[Damião de Góis]

I don't see any visible admixture.

[Slycooper]

Uhm, can be possible...5-10% amerindian?

Maybe. He could very well be 100% Portuguese. t's just the vibe I get Great player. One of my favourite Footballers for years now.

[Damião de Góis]

Maybe. He could very well be 100% Portuguese. Great player. One of my favourite Footballers for years now.

Actually mine too. I always liked him more than Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo and it's a shame he hasn't been the same player since 2007. I also consider him a better player (if on top form) than Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo.

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[Slycooper]

Actually mine too. I always liked him more than Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo and it's a shame he hasn't been the same player since 2007. I also consider him a better player (if on top form) than Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo.

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Ye. I used to watch AC games just cause of Kaka. Wish he would have stayed in Milan.

[Germaniac]

Kaka strikes me as a med altered by alpine type. I am not the best in classifying, but he looks like some southern portuguese people I've known.

[Atlantic Islander]

Altanto-Med + minor East Med (eyeshape).

[istripador]

Atlanto-Med

[SardiniaAtlantis]

To be honest with you guys I see no non european in him. Atlanto med very slight gracile.

[Also]

Gracile/Atlanto-Med.

http://globoesporte.globo.com/platb/files/1182/2013/02/kaka.jpg

Knowing he is brazilian he suddenly starts to look south-american or brazilian to some people. From my experiences, one brazilian only stops completely from looking brazilian when you ask if they look like Cintia Dicker.

[Smeagol]

Atlantid + Cromagnid.

[田所浩二]

He supposedly has Italian ancestry.

[Latinus]

Trans-Med.

[jmls]

He actually has Italian ancestry. 100% Europid. Atlanto-Mediterranid.

[Deneb]

Alpinicized Atlanto med I think.

[Latinus]

He actually has Italian ancestry. 100% Europid. Atlanto-Mediterranid.100% Europid? Do you mean phenotype? If you you're reffering to it, yes, but if you're talking about genotype, it's unlikely.

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[Adamastor]

100% Europid? Do you mean phenotype? If you you're reffering to it, yes, but if you're talking about genotype, it's unlikely.

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It's not unlikely, Brazil is not Colombia/Chile/Mexico/Costa Rica etc. There's a sizeable quantity of Brazilians scoring full Euro or near it.

[Latinus]

It's not unlikely, Brazil is not Colombia/Chile/Mexico/Costa Rica etc. There's a sizeable quantity of Brazilians scoring full Euro or near it.Unlikely in his particular case, I'm pretty sure Kaká has colonial ancestry (not sure if it's the majority of his ancestry), so I believe he would score some non-Euro in a genetic test.

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[Carl_uhul]

I honestly don't think Kaká looks fully white. He seems to be part amerindian in some pics.

https://i.ibb.co/KL373ZP/kaka-brasil.jpg

[Xacal]

Atlanto-Med

[Eurafricanid]

Atlanto-Med, Berid influence is possible.

[Carl_uhul]

Atlanto-Med, Berid influence is possible.

Honestly, when looking at his features, I think he looks like a lot of Brazilians here from São Paulo who have mostly colonial ancestry, having one pardo/mulatto grandparent (often from North/Northeast regions) and three white grandparents (at least with a fully white phenotype).

https://www.otempo.com.br/image/contentid/policy:1.2692425:1656681192/290922179-141091891916949-4218829155008330831-n-1-jpg.jpg

He looks like a light-skinned pardo. He looks nothing like a fully-Iberian Atlanto-Med like this Portuguese footballer (André Gomes), for example:

https://i.ibb.co/XXqdDd0/FPFImage-Handler.png

[100eyes]

Honestly, when looking at his features, I think he looks like a lot of Brazilians here from São Paulo who have mostly colonial ancestry, having one pardo/mulatto grandparent (often from North/Northeast regions) and three white grandparents (at least with a fully white phenotype).

https://www.otempo.com.br/image/contentid/policy:1.2692425:1656681192/290922179-141091891916949-4218829155008330831-n-1-jpg.jpg

He looks like a light-skinned pardo. He looks nothing like a fully-Iberian Atlanto-Med like this Portuguese footballer (André Gomes), for example:

https://i.ibb.co/XXqdDd0/FPFImage-Handler.png

Interesting. I noticed that tendency of some slightly mixed looking whites to have 3 white grandparents and one brown but mostly white. Mine is the opposite 3 brown and one Italian white