Italian, Indian or Mexican?

[Dna8]

https://i.imgur.com/UjuJqJl.jpg

[kaltar]

Mexican my guess

[Deneb]

Agree with Mexican

[Leatherdaddy]

Italian imo but can be also Mexican of recent European migrant descendant.

[Dna8]

thank you guys,

BUMP!

[Papastratosels26]

Mexican.

[Rouxinol]

Mexican of Castilian background.

[Selurong]

Indian Mexican

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[Catarinense1998]

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[Zeus]

definitely not indian. could be Italian, but im going with him being a light-skinned Mexican.

[Thambi]

Mexican

[Zuh]

Italian imo but can be also Mexican of recent European migrant descendant.

Tons of millions of mexicans look whiter than this guy

[Oghuz]

Mexican.

Uber Hispanic appearance

[Borealis]

Indian is ruled out for sure

[Leatherdaddy]

Tons of millions of mexicans look whiter than this guy

Haven't seen a single one irl. Maybe in another universe yes

[Zuh]

Haven't seen a single one irl. Maybe in another universe yes

Well I wonder what planet you from let me know, because even among mexicans in U.S seeing mexicans looking full European is common


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXrvQWUWJBA

[Morena]

Mexican.

[Deneb]

Mexican people. These ones are not Telenovela actors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgl9i8tbmU4

[Dna8]

Mexican my guess


Italian imo but can be also Mexican of recent European migrant descendant.


thank you guys,

BUMP!


Mexican.


Mexican of Castilian background.


Indian Mexican

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definitely not indian. could be Italian, but im going with him being a light-skinned Mexican.


Mexican


Tons of millions of mexicans look whiter than this guy


Mexican.

Uber Hispanic appearance


Indian is ruled out for sure


Haven't seen a single one irl. Maybe in another universe yes


Well I wonder what planet you from let me know, because even among mexicans in U.S seeing mexicans looking full European is common


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXrvQWUWJBA


Mexican.


Mexican people. These ones are not Telenovela actors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgl9i8tbmU4

The inspiration for this thread was the longing to bring together three highly influential, and highly contemporary TA aesthetic themes: The Indian, the Italian and the Mexican.

The Subject aesthetic is actually Polish.

Just kidding, he is a Mexican man.

[♥ Lily ♥]

I'd have guessed Mexican.

[Zuh]

Mexican people. These ones are not Telenovela actors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgl9i8tbmU4

Those are southern mexicans you fucking moron.

[Latinus]

Italian imo but can be also Mexican of recent European migrant descendant.

Or a fully colonial Mexican...

[Latinus]

Haven't seen a single one irl. Maybe in another universe yes

My avatar is a good example, ignorant redneck. And millions more...

[Latinus]

Well I wonder what planet you from let me know, because even among mexicans in U.S seeing mexicans looking full European is common


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXrvQWUWJBA

Carlitos showed me this video last year, they are from the West Coast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYaqWZQtxdM

[Morena]

Carlitos showed me this video last year, they are from the West Coast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYaqWZQtxdM

You can count on one hand the number of white people in that video. Most Mexicans look exactly like the other video. Most Mexicans live in the south, with the highest population density being in the south of Mexico. This means that even if there is an extreme difference in phenotype (there isn't) most Mexicans still look more like the first than the second.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/mexico-population/
The five most populous cities in Mexico are all located in the Central/South.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Somali?


He's a doctor, so there's a chance he's Indian!


I know he's Mexican.

[Latinus]

You can count on one hand the number of white people in that video. Most Mexicans look exactly like the other video. Most Mexicans live in the south, with the highest population density being in the south of Mexico. This means that even if there is an extreme difference in phenotype (there isn't) most Mexicans still look more like the first than the second.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/mexico-population/
The five most populous cities in Mexico are all located in the Central/South.

My point is: many Mexicans have fully Euro phenotypes and many of them (Med types or Berid, for example) aren't even perceived as foreign.
Most Mexicans look balanced mestizo, not pred-Amerindian like the ones in the last video.

[Morena]

My point is: many Mexicans have fully Euro phenotypes and many of them (Med types or Berid, for example) aren't even perceived as foreign.
Most Mexicans look balanced mestizo, not pred-Amerindian like the ones in the last video.

Bolded: yes

Second: no.

[Dna8]

Cheers guys,

For a few hours there, I thought this thread wouldn't in fact become a Royal Rumble as it was intended to be.

[Carlito's Way]

You can count on one hand the number of white people in that video. Most Mexicans look exactly like the other video. Most Mexicans live in the south, with the highest population density being in the south of Mexico. This means that even if there is an extreme difference in phenotype (there isn't) most Mexicans still look more like the first than the second.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/mexico-population/
The five most populous cities in Mexico are all located in the Central/South.

those are only cities, the regions that are the most populated are Northern/Western-Central Mexico
Southern Mexico only makes 23% of the mexican population LOL and there is a big difference between southeastern Mexicans and southwestern Mexicans

[Carlito's Way]

My point is: many Mexicans have fully Euro phenotypes and many of them (Med types or Berid, for example) aren't even perceived as foreign.
Most Mexicans look balanced mestizo, not pred-Amerindian like the ones in the last video.

yes the average mexican is balance mestizo

[Latinus]

those are only cities, the regions that are the most populated are Northern/Western-Central Mexico
Southern Mexico only makes 23% of the mexican population LOL and there is a big difference between southeastern Mexicans and southwestern Mexicans

What's the diference between Southeastern Mexicans and Southewestern Mexicans?

[Bruno]

Mexican

[Morena]

those are only cities, the regions that are the most populated are Northern/Western-Central Mexico
Southern Mexico only makes 23% of the mexican population LOL and there is a big difference between southeastern Mexicans and southwestern Mexicans

No. Did you see the population density of the map on the website? Most Mexicans live in Central Mexico. I lived there and I know how they look.
Northern Mexico is dry and arid, which is why it's sparsely populated:
https://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_population_of_northern_Mexico

What is the population of northern Mexico?
It depends on your definition of 'Northern Mexico'. As a general rule of thumb, the north of Mexico is composed by the states that border the US, including Baja California, Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas. These states account for 19.89 million people, or a bit less than 18% of the Mexican population.

Vs. Central Mexico:

What is the population of central Mexico?
Central Mexico's population is about 13,541,667 as of the year 2015

adding to that Mexico DF and the surrounding cities:

What is the population of Mexicos central interior?
The central interior of Mexico (also known as Centrosur ) is composed by the states of Cuernavaca, Mexico and Federal District, where Mexico City is located. The total population of such region would be of some 25,246,764 people

This matches the Population Density Map that was in this site (the information as taken from a 2012 Census)

South Mexico:

What is the Population of the southern Mexico region?
It depends on what "Southern Mexico" means to you. The most commonly associated states to such region are the states of Guerrero, Oaxaca and Chiapas:

Guerrero: 3,388,768
Oaxaca: 3,801,962
Chiapas: 4,796,580
Total population for southern Mexico (according to the 2010 census) equals 11,987,310 people.
As you can see by these numbers, taken from a 2010 Census, North Mexico is only slightly higher than South Mexico. Most Mexicans do live in Central Mexico. Those cities that you and other Mexican users here seem to poo-poo are the most populated areas in Mexico -period. Together, with South Mexico, they are more representative of what Mexico is and what Mexicans look like because they have the highest number of people.

[Carlito's Way]

What's the diference between Southeastern Mexicans and Southewestern Mexicans?


Southwestern: Higher concentration of Amerindians, higher predominantly Amerindians and lower amount of predominantly Euro-mestizos. They do however have a few regions where the population is pred Euro/balance mestizo but they are not as European as the ones from Southeastern Mexico.

The people from Guerrero tend to have Southeast Asian admixture along with South Asian (many of the cases but not always), they also have a higher SSA
The ones from Oaxaca are majority indo-mestizo with a black population in the coastal part. Predominantly Euro-mestizos are not so common and you will mostly see them in the upper to middle class

you for example, you would be not so common there if we speak about averages or even common phenotypes, you will be the type to be associated with money in that region


Southeastern: This sub-region is the most populated sub-region of Southern Mexico and also where the highest concentration of pred-euro mestizos are found. Your phenotype will be found even in lower classes especially in Veracruz, you will not be associated there with money at all because people like you can be found in all classes and not in one in particular. Veracruz has many pred euro-mestizo regions, along with fully European ones and those areas still speak their languages like the Venetian and French (Italian/French were the most influential in Veracruz apart from Spain)


Example: skip to 5:13 and look at the crowd, that type of crowd you will not find among Southwestern areas at all, most of their crowd will be filled with indo-mestizos, pred amerindian-triracials, balance mestizos, zambos, amerindian, with here and there pred euro but nothing like this crowd at all where you can see all type of phenotypes there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnksPPSu8zU

[Carlito's Way]

No. Did you see the population density of the map on the website? Most Mexicans live in Central Mexico. I lived there and I know how they look.
Northern Mexico is dry and arid, which is why it's sparsely populated:
https://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_population_of_northern_Mexico


Vs. Central Mexico:


adding to that Mexico DF and the surrounding cities:


This matches the Population Density Map that was in this site (the information as taken from a 2012 Census)

South Mexico:

As you can see by these numbers, taken from a 2010 Census, North Mexico is only slightly higher than South Mexico. Most Mexicans do live in Central Mexico. Those cities that you and other Mexican users here seem to poo-poo are the most populated areas in Mexico -period. Together, with South Mexico, they are more representative of what Mexico is and what Mexicans look like because they have the highest number of people.

the most recent census is the one from 2017

Balance mestizo

Southeastern
8,163,963 Veracruz
935,047 Campeche
2,172,839 Yucatan
1,664,667 Quintana Roo
2,431,339 Tabasco
= 15,367,855


Indo-mestizo

Southwestern
3,607,210 Guerrero
4,061,497 Oaxaca
5,382,083 Chiapas
= 13,050,790

Southern Mexico population is 28,418,645 (23% of the population)





Balance mestizo

Central Mexico
6,313,789 Puebla
2,801,839 San Luis Potosi
2,063,148 Queretaro
1,965,487 Morelos
2,947,206 Hidalgo
1,313,067 Tlaxcala
17,363,387 Estado de Mexico
8,811,266 Mexico City
= 43,579,189


Central Mexico population is 43,579,189 (35.3% of the population)




North/Western-Central Mexico


Harnizo

Northeastern
5,229,492 Nuevo Leon
3,622,605 Tamaulipas
3,029,740 Coahuila
= 11,881,837


Harnizo

Northwestern
3,782,018 Chihuahua
3,011,810 Sonora
3,034,942 Sinaloa
3,584,605 Baja California
809,833 Baja California Sur
1,799,320 Durango
= 16,022,528


Harnizo

Western-Central
4,658,159 Michoacan
8,110,943 Jalisco
1,321,453 Aguascalientes
1,600,412 Zacatecas
1,268,460 Nayarit
5,908,845 Guanajuato
747,801 Colima
= 23,616,073



Northern/Western-Central Mexico population is 51,520,438 (41.7% of the population)

[Morena]

the most recent census is the one from 2017

Balance mestizo

Southeastern
8,163,963 Veracruz
935,047 Campeche
2,172,839 Yucatan
1,664,667 Quintana Roo
2,431,339 Tabasco
= 15,367,855


Indo-mestizo

Southwestern
3,607,210 Guerrero
4,061,497 Oaxaca
5,382,083 Chiapas
= 13,050,790

Southern Mexico population is 28,418,645 (23% of the population)





Balance mestizo

Central Mexico
6,313,789 Puebla
2,801,839 San Luis Potosi
2,063,148 Queretaro
1,965,487 Morelos
2,947,206 Hidalgo
1,313,067 Tlaxcala
17,363,387 Estado de Mexico
8,811,266 Mexico City
= 43,579,189


Central Mexico population is 43,579,189 (35.3% of the population)




North/Western-Central Mexico


Harnizo

Northeastern
5,229,492 Nuevo Leon
3,622,605 Tamaulipas
3,029,740 Coahuila
= 11,881,837


Harnizo

Northwestern
3,782,018 Chihuahua
3,011,810 Sonora
3,034,942 Sinaloa
3,584,605 Baja California
809,833 Baja California Sur
1,799,320 Durango
= 16,022,528


Harnizo

Western-Central
4,658,159 Michoacan
8,110,943 Jalisco
1,321,453 Aguascalientes
1,600,412 Zacatecas
1,268,460 Nayarit
5,908,845 Guanajuato
747,801 Colima
= 23,616,073



Northern/Western-Central Mexico population is 51,520,438 (41.7% of the population)

This isn't an argument about "balance" Or "hernizo" of Central Mexico, IMO, but that's a matter of opinion. The fact is, most Mexicans look obviously mixed, and comes from areas that are more mixed (Central and South) than areas that are not. Your numbers prove this. The more Euro looking ones, the ones in contention, are almost all in north mexico and little pockets of Mexico DF. Even those areas aren't that Euro looking, because again, I'm familiar with these areas. I've actually traveled through North Mexico (not south) and I've seen how most people look. And most people still look "Mexican," ie, mixed. Do they look lighter and more Euro than Central Mexicans? Yes.
But I seriously don't think that you guys know how mixed the average Mexican of any area looks to a non-Mexican.

[Carlito's Way]

This isn't an argument about "balance" Or "hernizo" of Central Mexico, IMO, but that's a matter of opinion. The fact is, most Mexicans look obviously mixed, and comes from areas that are more mixed (Central and South) than areas that are not. Your numbers prove this. The more Euro looking ones, the ones in contention, are almost all in north mexico and little pockets of Mexico DF. Even those areas aren't that Euro looking, because again, I'm familiar with these areas. I've actually traveled through North Mexico (not south) and I've seen how most people look. And most people still look "Mexican," ie, mixed. Do they look lighter and more Euro than Central Mexicans? Yes.
But I seriously don't think that you guys know how mixed the average Mexican of any area looks to a non-Mexican.

Mexico is not divided in northern, central and southern Mexico LOL the same way that the USA is not divided up as western, central and eastern
if you lived there like you claim, you would know that by now and clearly it shows that you have never lived in Mexico because no one would ever consider

any of these as central Mexico
4,658,159 Michoacan
8,110,943 Jalisco
1,321,453 Aguascalientes
1,600,412 Zacatecas
1,268,460 Nayarit
5,908,845 Guanajuato
747,801 Colima




so again, Northern/Western-Central Mexico is the most populated like I have shown it

[Morena]

Mexico is not divided in northern, central and southern Mexico LOL the same way that the USA is not divided up as western, central and eastern
if you lived there like you claim, you would know that by now and clearly it shows that you have never lived in Mexico because no one would ever consider

any of these as central Mexico
4,658,159 Michoacan
8,110,943 Jalisco
1,321,453 Aguascalientes
1,600,412 Zacatecas
1,268,460 Nayarit
5,908,845 Guanajuato
747,801 Colima

so again, Northern/Western-Central Mexico is the most populated like I have shown it
Northern Mexico is the least populated of all areas because it is arid and little grows. Central-West is its own area. It's also much more populated and it's where a lot of cultural things that we associate with Mexican culture originated. They are darker than Northern Mexicans. It's in the very north of Mexico (and in central DF) that you have the most Euro looking Mexicans. But even so, most look mixed like in that video you showed Latinus.
I know what Mexicans look like. You can call it "balanced," all you want, but most Mexicans have an obvious mixture to them. This includes Mexicans in the northern area like Tijuana (which I've been to) and Baja California (which I've also been to).

You Mexicans like to throw out the words liar a lot. I wonder why. Could it be that you're surrounded by liars?

Yes, I lived in Mexico DF. I lived in Santa Ursula. Feel free to check out that neighborhood on google maps.

[Latinus]

Wait a second... all Mexicans/Mexican-Americans here know that Mexico is Pred-Mestizo and these people look obviously non-white, I have never seen anyone deny that.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

I would have said castizo mexican of new christian ancestry, looks turkish.

[JMack]

Cannot pass as Italian of any kind, lol at someone considering that this guy could pass in Italy. Not even among the sikeliotoids this guy could pass.

This thread was just an excuse by Dna8 to troll Italians. He thinks he's going to offend Italic Roots members, that's why he's opening these threads.

[Dna8]

Cannot pass as Italian of any kind, lol at someone considering that this guy could pass in Italy. Not even among the sikeliotoids this guy could pass.

This thread was just an excuse by Dna8 to troll Italians. He thinks he's going to offend Italic Roots members, that's why he's opening these threads.

^not realistic

what kind of retard could get offended by an internet taxonomy thread?

[JMack]

^not realistic

what kind of retard could get offended by an internet taxonomy thread?

Don't play the fool, no one cares about this stuff in real life but you know the dynamics of anthroforums.

[Dna8]

Don't play the fool, no one cares about this stuff in real life but you know the dynamics of anthroforums.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da7Z5SpPVYc

[Latinus]

^not realistic

what kind of retard could get offended by an internet taxonomy thread?

You have a point here. The Italicroots people that gets offended by yours posts are the same (not generalizing) that doesn't complain whem members there (or just one) only post Nordic looking Northern Italians. Didn't see any of them complaining when Jolsonaro used to flood the Taxonomy section with Gingers and Nordid blonde Northern Italians.
Italicrooters should stop their obcession with trolling Iberians and focus on the purpose of the forum: talking about Italians in an impartial way, no trolling (MENAwashing them).

[Dna8]

You have a point here. The Italicroots people that gets offended by yours posts are the same (not generalizing) that doesn't complain whem members there (or just one) only post Nordic looking Northern Italians. Didn't see any of them complaining when Jolsonaro used to flood the Taxonomy section with Gingers and Nordid blonde Northern Italians.
Italicrooters should stop their obcession with trolling Iberians and focus on the purpose of the forum: talking about Italians in an impartial way, no trolling (MENAwashing them).

I appreciate Italians/Italian history more than those wankers.

[Phenix]

Mexican>Italian, definitely not Indian.

[Carlito's Way]

Northern Mexico is the least populated of all areas because it is arid and little grows. Central-West is its own area.

Western-Central and Central Mexico are not the same region LOL
Western-Central is majority pred euro-mestizos




It's also much more populated and it's where a lot of cultural things that we associate with Mexican culture originated. They are darker than Northern Mexicans.

Western-Central is the same as Northern Mexico LOL




It's in the very north of Mexico (and in central DF) that you have the most Euro looking Mexicans. But even so, most look mixed like in that video you showed Latinus.

of course most look mix but they are majority castizo/harnizo despite these people coming from a poor rural area of Zacatecas which is in Western-Central Mexico



I know what Mexicans look like. You can call it "balanced," all you want, but most Mexicans have an obvious mixture to them. This includes Mexicans in the northern area like Tijuana (which I've been to) and Baja California (which I've also been to).

You Mexicans like to throw out the words liar a lot. I wonder why. Could it be that you're surrounded by liars?

Yes, I lived in Mexico DF. I lived in Santa Ursula. Feel free to check out that neighborhood on google maps.

no one is saying Mexicans dont look mix, only an idiot would believe otherwise, not Latinus nor anyone here has claimed they dont look mix LOL
so I am not sure what you are even debating at all
all Latin American countries are mix pheno and genetically (except Uruguay)

[Huckleberry]

Mexican

[Morena]

no one is saying Mexicans dont look mix, only an idiot would believe otherwise, not Latinus nor anyone here has claimed they dont look mix LOL
so I am not sure what you are even debating at all
all Latin American countries are mix pheno and genetically (except Uruguay)

What I'm saying is though Mexico, like India, runs on a visual continuum, there is still a distinctive Mexican look. There really isn't that much of a difference between most of you. If you agree with this, then we don't have anything further to discuss.

[Deneb]

The real face of Mexicans. A walk along a central street in Mexico City. To my eye 10% are White and 90% are Amerindian or mestizo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-rz2DcGq7I