Classify this woman from Karelia

[simple user]

https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-pdb/879261/d3ebe704-e7fb-4e7b-a488-78136350aa5c/s1200?webp=false
https://beautifulrus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Svetlana-Koroleva-5.jpg
http://m.amic.ru/images/upload/images_04-2016/images/100/2002.jpg
http://devushka.ru/upload/personal/Svetlana-Koroleva/600/XHC4iDnntpE4v2lNZuo9.jpg
http://visualrian.ru/images/old_preview/39/91/399101_preview.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Королёва_Светлана_Юрьевна.JPG

[XenophobicPrussian]

Sub-Nordid, not Baltid.

[simple user]

Sub-Nordid, not Baltid.

On Russian anthroforums she was classified as Balto-Nordid. As far as I know Sub-Nordid is Nordid + Alpinid. I don't see any Alpine about her.

[XenophobicPrussian]

On Russian anthroforums she was classified as Balto-Nordid. As far as I know Sub-Nordid is Nordid + Alpinid. I don't see any Alpine about her.
Having a look at the pics again, 1st, 2nd and 5th pics have Baltid influence, especially in the 2nd, but 4th and 6th look absolutely 100% Sub-Nordid and NW Euro. If you don't see any Alpine you wouldn't see any Baltid, Alpine is basically just a round, short face that's also not robust, excluding other minor features. Baltid is just that but light pigmented and eastern eyes.

There's not enough Nordid influence for Nordid-anything, face isn't long enough. She's either going to be Sub-Nordid(depigmented Alpinid, I'm not sure if it's necessarily Nordid+Alpinid) or Baltid. I guess I focused too much on the 4th and 6th pics, yeah I'd say she'd intermediary between Sub-Nordid and Baltid.

This is a typical Baltid to me, so imo she's definitely not pure Baltid:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tEC9e9RjhIc/T1uv5OiAbGI/AAAAAAAAGlk/7AidQOKt_6c/s320/07_Ausra_Bimbaite.JPG

[simple user]

She doesn't look NW Euro. Looks what she is NE Euro.

[XenophobicPrussian]

She doesn't look NW Euro. Looks what she is NE Euro.
Close this thread and make a poll thread asking where the 4th/6th pics pass best in, then. Karelians have the most western admixture in Russia, btw. Finland is in North-East Europe, and I think almost everyone would agree Finland has a lot of western types.

[Ryuk]

Baltid + north pontid

[Nurzat]

best fit: Ukrainian, south Russian, Moldovan, Romanian, Bulgarian in this order. looks East/Southeast Euro

[simple user]

best fit: Ukrainian, south Russian, Moldovan, Romanian, Bulgarian in this order. looks East/Southeast Euro

Thanks. I agreed, she fits better as Southeast Euro than NW Euro.

[Swept Under]

She looks different in all the pictures. 1,4,6 Nordic/Alpine spectrum and 2,3,5 East Baltic spectrum. Best fit in Eastern Europe though.

[Deneb]

In some pics she looks Swedish, German or even Dutch, in the others she looks Russian. I think she has an ambiguous look.

[Ülev]

In some pics she looks Swedish, German or even Dutch, in the others she looks Russian. I think she has an ambiguous look.

this, and/but she has smaller (borealised) head, this makes her look Eastern European with Western vibes

[simple user]

this, and/but she has smaller (borealised) head, this makes her look Eastern European with Western vibes

Pseudo Western vibe. Too much makeup.

[The Blade]

Most likely Nordo-Borreby.

[simple user]

Most likely Nordo-Borreby.

Thanks, mate.

[simple user]

dp

[simple user]

She looks different in all the pictures. 1,4,6 Nordic/Alpine spectrum and 2,3,5 East Baltic spectrum. Best fit in Eastern Europe though.


In some pics she looks Swedish, German or even Dutch, in the others she looks Russian. I think she has an ambiguous look.


this, and/but she has smaller (borealised) head, this makes her look Eastern European with Western vibes

Thanks.

[Mr.G]

She looks a little like my mom who is a very western shifted German according to Gedmatch. This woman seems close to the Borreby type, with the most noticeable difference being that her nose form is not as fleshy.