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21993
04-17-2019, 10:33 AM
http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15V4.png

Voskos
04-17-2019, 10:35 AM
Ofc dude.

TheBalkanite
04-19-2019, 11:09 AM
Depends on the region of Turkey in question. Turks from the Black Sea coast are probably closest to Georgians but the rest of Turkey are in my opinion basically Armenians with some east asian and siberian.

Kivan
04-19-2019, 11:29 AM
Depends on the region of Turkey in question. Turks from the Black Sea coast are probably closest to Georgians but the rest of Turkey are in my opinion basically Armenians with some east asian and siberian.

No, not really. There're tons of genetic results spammed in this forum.

Result of a Western Anatolian Turk:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.74
2 South_Central_Asian 11.53
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 11.25
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.71
5 Tungus-Altaic 6.55
6 Near_East 5.53
7 East_Siberian 4.73
8 Arctic 3.48
9 Ancestral_Altaic 2.95
10 North_African 2.41
11 South_East_Asian 1.61
12 Melano_Polynesian 1.30
13 Australoid 1.01

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin @ 5.885062
2 Turk_Balikesir @ 8.318324
3 Turk_Istanbul @ 8.869559
4 Turk @ 10.355407
5 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12.021833
6 Azov_Greek @ 12.157321
7 Nogai @ 12.231788
8 Turk_Kayseri @ 13.440648
9 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13.851104
10 Turk_Adana @ 13.981258
11 Cirkassian @ 14.427249
12 Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 16.548096
13 Cretan @ 16.682146
14 Georgian_Jew @ 16.721102
15 Circassian @ 17.177387
16 Kumyk @ 17.458357
17 Greek_Macedonia @ 17.539604
18 Romanian_Jew @ 17.566490
19 Greek @ 17.602461
20 Kabardin @ 17.636078

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Nogai +50% Turk_Balikesir @ 4.635275


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Circassian +25% Sicilian_Agrigento +25% Tatar-Siberian @ 4.058968



Result of someone from Central Anatolia:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.31
2 South_Central_Asian 15.26
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.84
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.22
5 Near_East 7.04
6 Tungus-Altaic 3.65
7 North_African 3.22
8 East_Siberian 3.10
9 Ancestral_Altaic 2.93
10 South_Indian 2.16
11 South_East_Asian 1.89
12 Arctic 1.38
13 Austronesian 1.13

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Aydin @ 5.737835
2 Turk_Istanbul @ 5.813556
3 Turk @ 6.077835
4 Turk_Balikesir @ 8.110736
5 Turk_Kayseri @ 9.148629
6 Turk_Adana @ 9.458119
7 Azov_Greek @ 11.132698
8 Cirkassian @ 11.776154
9 Georgian_Jew @ 11.866308
10 Azeri @ 12.888172
11 Stalskoe_Kumyk @ 13.112051
12 Uzbek_Tashkent @ 13.312876
13 Kurd_North @ 13.387503
14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 13.471828
15 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13.534709
16 Kumyk @ 13.995822
17 Nogai @ 14.846873
18 Kabardin @ 14.934309
19 Kurd_South @ 15.271072
20 Uzbekistani_Jew @ 15.579026

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri +50% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 3.935001


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azov_Greek +25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan +25% Uzbek_Tashkent @ 2.569513



Result of a Thracian Turk:

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 24.56
2 East_Med 22.87
3 Baltic 14.75
4 North_Atlantic 11.93
5 West_Med 11.49
6 South_Asian 4.37
7 Red_Sea 3.41
8 Siberian 3.33
9 East_Asian 1.67
10 Amerindian 1
11 Oceanian 0.43
12 Northeast_African 0.15
13 Sub-Saharan 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 12.82
2 Central_Greek 15.33
3 Azeri 15.45
4 Greek_Thessaly 15.91
5 Kumyk 16.46
6 East_Sicilian 16.59
7 Italian_Abruzzo 16.84
8 Turkmen 17.84
9 Bulgarian 18.02
10 South_Italian 18.31
11 Ashkenazi 18.41
12 Romanian 19.64
13 Nogay 19.85
14 West_Sicilian 19.95
15 Kurdish 20.36
16 Kabardin 20.37
17 Balkar 20.61
18 Iranian 20.73
19 Adygei 21.2
20 Lebanese_Muslim 21.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Turkish + 25.1% Southwest_Russian @ 1.57
2 76.4% Turkish + 23.6% Estonian_Polish @ 1.59
3 74.1% Turkish + 25.9% Ukrainian @ 1.6
4 78.3% Turkish + 21.7% Lithuanian @ 1.67
5 78.3% Turkish + 21.7% Estonian @ 1.7
6 76.1% Turkish + 23.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.7
7 76.2% Turkish + 23.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.73
8 74.7% Turkish + 25.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.75
9 73.3% Turkish + 26.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.79
10 76.7% Turkish + 23.3% Belorussian @ 1.83
11 75.7% Turkish + 24.3% Polish @ 1.84
12 74.1% Turkish + 25.9% South_Polish @ 2.03
13 67.6% Turkish + 32.4% Moldavian @ 2.37
14 78.3% Turkish + 21.7% East_Finnish @ 2.39
15 76.2% Turkish + 23.8% Erzya @ 2.41
16 78.1% Turkish + 21.9% Finnish @ 2.46
17 70.4% Turkish + 29.6% Croatian @ 2.49
18 63.3% Azeri + 36.7% Moldavian @ 2.5
19 56.1% Azeri + 43.9% Romanian @ 2.73
20 53.9% Azeri + 46.1% Bulgarian @ 2.78


The closest group to the Georgians is probably Abkhazians. People from Eastern Black Sea, if i'm not wrong, plot between Georgians and Armenians, and in the Eastern region(Erzurum province, for example) the country close to Armenians, but many people in this area are Armenian converts hence their results.