Is Russian ancestry visible in my genetics?

[Mortimer]

I score Baltic 3% and Viking Rus 0.6% (look at my signature) I dont count the slavic because slavic could also be serbian and I have serbian ancestry as well. From genealogy I am 7% russian that translates to a great great grandfather who was a cossack and his name was Michael Kachanov. My mum saw his picture long ago (my grandmother had one) and she said he was "plav" in serbian that means blonde or fair.

[Smitty]

I'm no genetics expert, but I would say definitely. I read once that you've practically a 100% chance of inheriting DNA from your ancestors up to around the 4x great-grandparent. You surely get some from a 2x. Where exactly it is, is a tougher question, which I can't answer.

[Mortimer]

Bump

[Mortimer]

Bump

[Dominator]

You have very Balkan genetics in my opinion

[Figaro]

Some visible signals of northern Slav. Do you know what part of Russia he was from? Do you get Russia on 23andme with a regional breakdown?

[Leto]

My answer would be no. 6% is nothing, especially if it's not an entirely different race. If I was 1/16 Serbian or even Gypsy, that would be barely seen on DNA tests.

[Mortimer]

Some visible signals of northern Slav. Do you know what part of Russia he was from? Do you get Russia on 23andme with a regional breakdown?

No but I get Poland

[Figaro]

No but I get Poland

Which region?Podlaskie?

[Voskos]

Gypsies got most of their euro ancestry from slavs, balkanites and central euros.

[Lemgrant]

this is how I search for it in nMonte and R
https://i.imgur.com/7EHWkg2.png

[Not a Cop]

this is how I search for it in nMonte and R
https://i.imgur.com/7EHWkg2.png

Wait, but Mortimer is only half gypsy.

[Lemgrant]

Wait, but Mortimer is only half gypsy.

That Roma sample is the closest to Mortimer when using the whole G25 datasheet. For example in my case it is individual called Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 or Cossack_Kuban:GS000035179 when using averages. So I pick only them and then select speculative ancestry. Example:

pen=0.001

[1] "distance%=1.6006"

Lemgrant_unscaled

Cossack_Kuban,95.8
Italian_Jew,1.8
Ashkenazi_Jew,1.2
Sephardic_Jew,1.2

pen=0

[1] "distance%=1.574"

Lemgrant_unscaled

Cossack_Kuban,94
Sephardic_Jew,6

pen=0.001


[1] "distance%=1.3959"

Lemgrant_unscaled

Russian_Orel,96
Italian_Jew,2
Ashkenazi_Jew,1.8
Sephardic_Jew,0.2

pen=0


[1] "distance%=1.5363"

Lemgrant_unscaled

Cossack_Kuban,89.4
Greek,7.6
Moroccan_Jew,3

when I select for example Ukrainian individual samples from the datasheet, the majority of them score 100% Ukrainian in nMonte and do not score anything Jewish with this approach. More people need to try this and see if this is accurate.

[Mortimer]

this is how I search for it in nMonte and R
https://i.imgur.com/7EHWkg2.png

5% Russian. Thats my amount from genealogy too.

[Mortimer]

Wait, but Mortimer is only half gypsy.

They must be mixed roma like I am. Check my G25 modern matches in my signature one roma group is first and one roma group is somehwere down the list. The other roma group must be more pure. The first roma group must be more mixed.

[Mortimer]

Which region?Podlaskie?

Poland
Possible Match

Although it is likely you had ancestors who lived in Poland in the last 200 years, we have not been able to identify the specific regions in Poland where your ancestors may have lived.

[Mortimer]

My answer would be no. 6% is nothing, especially if it's not an entirely different race. If I was 1/16 Serbian or even Gypsy, that would be barely seen on DNA tests.

Yes it is very little. Thats why I didnt added the Russian permission group into my profile. But it isnt really that much distant. It was the grandfather of my grandmother and my grandmother knew him when she was a child.

[Lemgrant]

.
In your case by using averages: with averages you are closest to Russian_Tver. and it is known that you are 1/8 German.

https://i.imgur.com/j0R2mAo.png
pretty good result

[Not a Cop]

In your case by using averages: with averages you are closest to Russian_Tver. and it is known that you are 1/8 German.

https://i.imgur.com/j0R2mAo.png
pretty good result

Yeah, but my ancestry is more complicated, can you comare result of my grandma against Russian Tver? He mother is from Tver area and father is from Eastern Leningrad oblast.

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Grandma_scaled,0.130897,0.099522,0.086738,0.078166 ,0.031083,0.028168,0.011986,0.014538,-0.001636,-0.025513,-0.000812,-0.009292,0.01888,0.019267,-0.007736,-0.000133,0.005607,-0.002534,0,0.003126,0.006613,-0.003957,0.002835,0.005663,0.00012

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Grandma,0.0115,0.0098,0.023,0.0242,0.0101,0.0101,0 .0051,0.0063,-0.0008,-0.014,-0.0005,-0.0062,0.0127,0.014,-0.0057,-0.0001,0.0043,-0.002,0,0.0025,0.0053,-0.0032,0.0023,0.0047,0.0001

[Lemgrant]

Yeah, but my ancestry is more complicated, can you comare result of my grandma against Russian Tver? He mother is from Tver area and father is from Eastern Leningrad oblast.

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Grandma_scaled,0.130897,0.099522,0.086738,0.078166 ,0.031083,0.028168,0.011986,0.014538,-0.001636,-0.025513,-0.000812,-0.009292,0.01888,0.019267,-0.007736,-0.000133,0.005607,-0.002534,0,0.003126,0.006613,-0.003957,0.002835,0.005663,0.00012

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Grandma,0.0115,0.0098,0.023,0.0242,0.0101,0.0101,0 .0051,0.0063,-0.0008,-0.014,-0.0005,-0.0062,0.0127,0.014,-0.0057,-0.0001,0.0043,-0.002,0,0.0025,0.0053,-0.0032,0.0023,0.0047,0.0001

with averages she is closest to Estonian.

[1] "distance%=0.9532"

Grandma

Estonian,92.4
German,7.6

if I add also Udmurt to datasheet:

[1] "distance%=0.8992"

Grandma

Estonian,89.4
Udmurt,6.6
German,4

[Not a Cop]

with averages she is closest to Estonian.

[1] "distance%=0.9532"

Grandma

Estonian,92.4
German,7.6

if I add also Udmurt to datasheet:

[1] "distance%=0.8992"

Grandma

Estonian,89.4
Udmurt,6.6
German,4

She's always closest to Estonian, but that's because of mixture of Finnic and Balto-Slavic in similar proportions i guess.

[Erronkari]

My answer would be no. 6% is nothing, especially if it's not an entirely different race. If I was 1/16 Serbian or even Gypsy, that would be barely seen on DNA tests.

Exactly. Under 10% is minimal, almost impossible to show in the phenotype.

[Lemgrant]

She's always closest to Estonian, but that's because of mixture of Finnic and Balto-Slavic in similar proportions i guess.

she still gets some German, even with Russian_Tver in datasheet. is she part German?

Edit :actually wrong approach. I should add more populations and see what Nmonte picks.

[Leto]

Exactly. Under 10% is minimal, almost impossible to show in the phenotype.
Well, I wasn't talking about phenotype though. Even on DNA tests 1/16 Russian or Serbian or Spanish would be barely observable. 1/16 SSA or Chinese or Amerindian would be detected of course. As for the phenotype, I largely agree with you although there's definitely exceptions and we also should distinguish between one-time admixture events and multigenerational mixing.

[Not a Cop]

she still gets some German, even with Russian_Tver in datasheet. is she part German?



Higly unlikely, her ancestry must be almost entirely Balto-Slavic and Finnic, here is nmonte:

Estonian,26.4
Finnish,14.4
Russian_Kostroma,9.4
Karelian,7.6
Russian_Tver,6.4
Russian_Voronez,4.6
Ingrian,4.4
Mordovian,3.4
Finnish_East,3.2
Latvian,3.2
Cossack_Kuban,3
Belarusian,2.6
Vepsian,2.4
Russian_Orel,2
Russian_Smolensk,1.6
Lithuanian,1.4
Russian_Kursk,1
Polish,0.8
Russian_Pinega,0.6
Komi,0.4
Ukrainian,0.4
Czech,0.2
Icelandic,0.2
Slovenian,0.2
Swedish,0.2

[Erronkari]

Edit.

[Erronkari]

Edited. Wrong post.

[Lemgrant]

Higly unlikely, her ancestry must be almost entirely Balto-Slavic and Finnic, here is nmonte:

Estonian,26.4
Finnish,14.4
Russian_Kostroma,9.4
Karelian,7.6
Russian_Tver,6.4
Russian_Voronez,4.6
Ingrian,4.4
Mordovian,3.4
Finnish_East,3.2
Latvian,3.2
Cossack_Kuban,3
Belarusian,2.6
Vepsian,2.4
Russian_Orel,2
Russian_Smolensk,1.6
Lithuanian,1.4
Russian_Kursk,1
Polish,0.8
Russian_Pinega,0.6
Komi,0.4
Ukrainian,0.4
Czech,0.2
Icelandic,0.2
Slovenian,0.2
Swedish,0.2

was she tested with 23andme? what are her results? I found something weird with ancient oracle.

[Not a Cop]

was she tested with 23andme? what are her results? I found something weird with ancient oracle.

What is weird?

No, with FTDNA, 70 EE, 28% Finnish, almost the same in Dna.land.

[Erronkari]

Well, I wasn't talking about phenotype though. Even on DNA tests 1/16 Russian or Serbian or Spanish would be barely observable. 1/16 SSA or Chinese or Amerindian would be detected of course. As for the phenotype, I largely agree with you although there's definitely exceptions and we also should distinguish between one-time admixture events and multigenerational mixing.

Talking about extra-caucasoid admix, normally SSA could be detected above 5%, Asian 7% and Amerindian 8%.
But for sure around 1/16 (6.25%) is the limit.
1/32 (between 2% and 4%) in normal conditions is totally unnoticeable.

[Smitty]

Well, I wasn't talking about phenotype though. Even on DNA tests 1/16 Russian or Serbian or Spanish would be barely observable. 1/16 SSA or Chinese or Amerindian would be detected of course. As for the phenotype, I largely agree with you although there's definitely exceptions and we also should distinguish between one-time admixture events and multigenerational mixing.

This must be a reflection of the point we're at in genetic science, then. The fact is Mortimer received DNA from his Russian 2x great-grandfather. Russian DNA is there, even if we can't pick it out. I would think with more time, it will become easier to do so.

[Lemgrant]

What is weird?

No, with FTDNA, 70 EE, 28% Finnish, almost the same in Dna.land.

ancient oracle picked a lot of minoan/mycenae/balkan for some reason. Post her east_med, west_asian, west_med and red_sea from Eurogenes k13

[Not a Cop]

ancient oracle picked a lot of minoan/mycenae/balkan for some reason. Post her east_med, west_asian, west_med and red_sea from Eurogenes k13
Population
North_Atlantic 30.17
Baltic 50.64
West_Med 5.08
West_Asian 3.98
East_Med 1.67
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.97
East_Asian 0.27
Siberian 5.01
Amerindian 0.55
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.66

[Nurzat]

there is nothing Slavic about your looks, sorry. you do look Balkanic but not Slavic. you can pass as a darker-than-average Romanian, Italian or Spaniard, but that's all in Europe, nothing else (native I mean). no Slavic hint. actually no European hint except for Mediterranean.

[Lemgrant]

Population
North_Atlantic 30.17
Baltic 50.64
West_Med 5.08
West_Asian 3.98
East_Med 1.67
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.97
East_Asian 0.27
Siberian 5.01
Amerindian 0.55
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.66

that's 3 times more east_med than average Estonian/Finnish and 1.7 times more west_asian than average Estonian/Finnish

[Not a Cop]

that's 3 times more east_med than average Estonian/Finnish and 1.7 times more west_asian than average Estonian/Finnish

Well there is, however you have to account for the fact that she's Russian, and also for noisiness at this low amount of component. Can you post the ancient results?

[Lemgrant]

Well there is, however you have to account for the fact that she's Russian, and also for noisiness at this low amount of component. Can you post the ancient results?



G25ancient_unscaled(c(0.0115,0.0098,0.023,0.0242,0 .0101,0.0101,0.0051,0.0063,-0.0008,-0.014,-0.0005,-0.0062,0.0127,0.014,-0.0057,-0.0001,0.0043,-0.002,0,0.0025,0.0053,-0.0032,0.0023,0.0047,0.0001),k=60)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006" "0.0165"
[2,] "Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av2" "0.0205"
[3,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160" "0.0222"
[4,] "Slavic_Bohemia:RISE569" "0.0228"
[5,] "Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av1" "0.0231"
[6,] "Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29" "0.0238"
[7,] "Sunghir_Medieval:Sunghir6" "0.0246"
[8,] "Lithuania_BA:Turlojiske3" "0.0264"
[9,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026" "0.0277"
[10,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020" "0.029"
[11,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005" "0.0297"
[12,] "Scythian_Ukraine:scy009" "0.0299"
[13,] "Beaker_Bavaria:I5531" "0.03"
[14,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036" "0.0301"
[15,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035" "0.0303"
[16,] "Varna_o:ANI163" "0.0307"
[17,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021" "0.0308"
[18,] "CWC_Poland:N49" "0.0324"
[19,] "Scythian_Hungary:DA197" "0.0336"
[20,] "Beaker_Czech:I5025" "0.034"
[21,] "Poland_EBA:N17" "0.0348"
[22,] "Lithuania_BA:Turlojiske1" "0.0354"
[23,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001" "0.0359"
[24,] "Scythian_Hungary:DA191" "0.0359"
[25,] "Poland_EBA:I6579" "0.0365"
[26,] "Levanluhta_IA:DA234" "0.0368"
[27,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002" "0.0373"
[28,] "CWC_Poland_o:N47" "0.0378"
[29,] "Hungary_BA:I1504" "0.0379"
[30,] "Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns25" "0.0386"
[31,] "Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_220" "0.0387"
[32,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad_o2:SZ25" "0.039"
[33,] "CWC_Baltic:MA973" "0.039"
[34,] "Czech_EBA:I5044" "0.0391"
[35,] "Beaker_Czech:I7281" "0.0393"
[36,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ12" "0.0394"
[37,] "CWC_Baltic:Spiginas2" "0.0394"
[38,] "Czech_EBA:I7201" "0.0395"
[39,] "Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns215" "0.0397"
[40,] "Sweden_IA:RISE174" "0.0398"
[41,] "Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153" "0.04"
[42,] "Czech_EBA:I4884" "0.0401"
[43,] "Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns19" "0.0404"
[44,] "Germany_Medieval:AED_1135" "0.0406"
[45,] "Czech_EBA:I4892" "0.0406"
[46,] "Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns222" "0.0406"
[47,] "Germany_Unetice:I0116" "0.0408"
[48,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ11" "0.041"
[49,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ42" "0.041"
[50,] "Scotland_CA_EBA:I3132" "0.041"
[51,] "Hallstatt_Bylany:DA112" "0.0411"
[52,] "Germany_Unetice:I0115" "0.0412"
[53,] "Srubnaya_MLBA:I0359" "0.0414"
[54,] "Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_228" "0.0414"
[55,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ22" "0.0415"
[56,] "Krasnoyarsk_MLBA:I1828" "0.0415"
[57,] "Beaker_Bavaria:E09569" "0.0416"
[58,] "Dashti_Kozy_BA:I4258" "0.0417"
[59,] "Lithuania_Late_Antiquity_low_res:DA171" "0.0417"
[60,] "Scythian_Ukraine:scy010" "0.0417"




[1,] "26.6% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kal009 + 73.4% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160"
[2,] "47.8% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29 + 52.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160"
[3,] "37.9% Slavic_Bohemia:RISE569 + 62.1% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[4,] "33% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153 + 67% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160"
[5,] "58.1% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29 + 41.9% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021"
[6,] "32.8% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns215 + 67.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160"
[7,] "27.9% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns207 + 72.1% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160"
[8,] "27.5% Varna_o:ANI163 + 72.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[9,] "12.3% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 87.7% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[10,] "9.2% TDLN:I1899 + 90.8% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[11,] "17.5% Beaker_Bavaria:I5017 + 82.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[12,] "50.2% Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162 + 49.8% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns209"
[13,] "10% Minoan_Lasithi:I0071 + 90% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[14,] "9.5% Minoan_Lasithi:I0073 + 90.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[15,] "11.9% Anatolia_EBA_Isparta:I2683 + 88.1% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[16,] "14.1% Scythian_Hungary:DA198 + 85.9% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[17,] "8.6% Ukraine_N_o:I3719 + 91.4% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[18,] "47.1% England_IA:L-I0789 + 52.9% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153"
[19,] "43.8% Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ15 + 56.2% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153"
[20,] "9.8% Minoan_Lasithi:I0070 + 90.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[21,] "8.7% Barcin_N:I1096 + 91.3% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[22,] "10.5% Mycenaean:I9010 + 89.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[23,] "24.6% Scythian_Hungary:DA197 + 75.4% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[24,] "8.5% LBKT_MN:I1904 + 91.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[25,] "8.5% Balkans_N:I1131 + 91.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[26,] "29.9% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 70.1% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160"
[27,] "11.2% Anatolia_MLBA:MA2205 + 88.8% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[28,] "64.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006 + 35.8% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160"
[29,] "8.8% Balkans_N:I5071 + 91.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[30,] "8.7% Peloponnese_N:I3708 + 91.3% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[31,] "8.4% Balkans_N:I0633 + 91.6% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[32,] "47.9% Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162 + 52.1% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns222"
[33,] "11.9% Anatolia_IA_low_res:MA2197 + 88.1% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[34,] "55.3% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29 + 44.7% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026"
[35,] "11.7% Mycenaean:I9033 + 88.3% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[36,] "10.2% Krepost_N:I0679_d + 89.8% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[37,] "8.4% Barcin_N:I0744 + 91.6% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[38,] "10.5% Tepecik_Ciftlik_N:Tep003 + 89.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[39,] "11.5% Barcin_ChL:I1584 + 88.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[40,] "70% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29 + 30% Scotland_CA_EBA:I2567"
[41,] "9.2% Peloponnese_N:I3709 + 90.8% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[42,] "11.9% Hungary_Medieval_Szolad_o1:SZ19 + 88.1% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[43,] "8.4% Starcevo_N:I1880 + 91.6% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[44,] "12.8% Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL38 + 87.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[45,] "7.8% Balkans_N:I2533 + 92.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[46,] "8.5% Peloponnese_N:I2937 + 91.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[47,] "12.3% Balkans_IA:I5769 + 87.7% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[48,] "8.3% Balkans_N:I5077 + 91.7% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[49,] "14.4% Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD:KER_1 + 85.6% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[50,] "11.1% Anatolia_MLBA:MA2200 + 88.9% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[51,] "9.2% TDLN:I1903 + 90.8% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[52,] "8.3% Barcin_N:I0707 + 91.7% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[53,] "10.5% Mycenaean:I9006 + 89.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[54,] "46.5% Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162 + 53.5% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns25"
[55,] "18.1% Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL47 + 81.9% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[56,] "11% Anatolia_EBA_Ovaoren:MA2213 + 89% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[57,] "8.6% Barcin_N:I1585 + 91.4% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[58,] "8% LBK_N:I2038 + 92% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[59,] "8.8% Minoan_Lasithi:I0074 + 91.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
[60,] "8.4% Barcin_N:I0746 + 91.6% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
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[Mortimer]

there is nothing Slavic about your looks, sorry. you do look Balkanic but not Slavic. you can pass as a darker-than-average Romanian, Italian or Spaniard, but that's all in Europe, nothing else (native I mean). no Slavic hint. actually no European hint except for Mediterranean.

I didnt mentioned phenotype. It was not even visible at all in my grandmother who was 1/4 she looked fully gypsy but she was still 25% russian thats alot. Maybe it was a bit visible in her mum who was 50% russian but I didnt know her she was my great grandmother.

https://i.postimg.cc/mZj6kSN0/Maternal-Grandparents.png

[Tauromachos]

Gypsies got most of their euro ancestry from slavs, balkanites and central euros.

Can you prove it?

What about Russian Gypsies?

Also there is some connection between Steppe or Yamnaya ancestry and Indians

Some Punjabis or Gujarities can have more Steppe than a Sicilian...