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Peterski
04-20-2019, 08:20 AM
I've uploaded them to GEDmatch:

https://i.imgur.com/7DyHn5V.png

https://i.imgur.com/FOmcQKT.png

https://i.imgur.com/DjOjzOy.png

GEDmatch Genesis kit numbers of crusaders belonging to European and Admixed groups:

Crusader SI39 - kit number EM9001776
Crusader SI40 - kit number QR8698402
Crusader SI47 - kit number XA2645587
Crusader SI41 - kit number ME3828251
Crusader SI53 - kit number ZX8440629

https://i.imgur.com/vFKaO0l.png

Peterski
04-20-2019, 08:25 AM
RESULTS OF THE EUROPEAN GROUP:

Crusader SI39, Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 30.35
2 North_Sea 24.93
3 Baltic 13.4
4 West_Med 8.85
5 West_Asian 8.45
6 Eastern_Euro 8.15
7 South_Asian 2.43
8 Sub-Saharan 1.1
9 Red_Sea 1.05
10 Siberian 0.57
11 Oceanian 0.41
12 Amerindian 0.2
13 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 8.26
2 North_German 8.87
3 East_German 10.61
4 Southwest_English 10.87
5 Southeast_English 10.94
6 Irish 11.28
7 French 11.43
8 Austrian 11.56
9 Danish 11.96
10 West_Scottish 12.24
11 North_Dutch 12.38
12 West_German 12.83
13 Orcadian 14.02
14 Hungarian 14.79
15 Norwegian 15.49
16 Swedish 15.65
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.1
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.13
19 North_Swedish 16.42
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79% North_German + 21% French_Basque @ 6.5
2 73.4% North_German + 26.6% Southwest_French @ 6.62
3 77% North_German + 23% Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.8
4 75.8% North_German + 24.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6.86
5 76.9% North_German + 23.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 6.93
6 76% North_German + 24% Spanish_Valencia @ 6.95
7 75.3% North_German + 24.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 6.99
8 51% Irish + 49% Austrian @ 7.19
9 74.8% North_German + 25.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 7.22
10 52.7% Southwest_English + 47.3% Austrian @ 7.35
11 52.4% Southeast_English + 47.6% Austrian @ 7.37
12 74.5% North_German + 25.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 7.38
13 78% North_German + 22% Spanish_Extremadura @ 7.45
14 78.1% North_German + 21.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 7.49
15 52.4% Austrian + 47.6% West_Scottish @ 7.49
16 72.4% South_Dutch + 27.6% Austrian @ 7.56
17 86.4% South_Dutch + 13.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 7.57
18 93.4% South_Dutch + 6.6% North_Ossetian @ 7.59
19 65.6% North_German + 34.4% Austrian @ 7.61
20 90.7% North_German + 9.3% Sardinian @ 7.63

Crusader SI40, Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 27.55
2 North_Sea 25.04
3 West_Med 23.83
4 East_Med 12.12
5 Baltic 5.16
6 Eastern_Euro 2.7
7 Red_Sea 1.85
8 Amerindian 1
9 Oceanian 0.47
10 West_Asian 0.24
11 Southeast_Asian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portuguese 5.51
2 Spanish_Cataluna 5.92
3 Spanish_Galicia 6.04
4 Spanish_Murcia 6.41
5 Spanish_Extremadura 6.66
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.98
7 Spanish_Cantabria 7.93
8 Spanish_Valencia 8.5
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.97
10 Spanish_Aragon 9.35
11 Spanish_Andalucia 9.5
12 Southwest_French 10.18
13 North_Italian 10.52
14 French 10.92
15 South_Dutch 15.87
16 Tuscan 16.46
17 West_German 17.26
18 Southwest_English 18.17
19 French_Basque 18.65
20 Southeast_English 19.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sardinian @ 4.96
2 56.5% West_Scottish + 43.5% Sardinian @ 5.03
3 56.1% Orcadian + 43.9% Sardinian @ 5.07
4 57.1% Irish + 42.9% Sardinian @ 5.19
5 66.1% Portuguese + 33.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.36
6 52.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 47.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.37
7 56% Spanish_Galicia + 44% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.4
8 96.8% Portuguese + 3.2% Sardinian @ 5.43
9 92.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.7% Sardinian @ 5.43
10 74.6% Spanish_Galicia + 25.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.46
11 91.1% Portuguese + 8.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.46
12 96.8% Portuguese + 3.2% French_Basque @ 5.48
13 90.9% Portuguese + 9.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.48
14 98% Portuguese + 2% West_Norwegian @ 5.49
15 97.7% Portuguese + 2.3% Orcadian @ 5.49
16 97.2% Portuguese + 2.8% Southwest_English @ 5.49
17 87.7% Portuguese + 12.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.49
18 97.9% Portuguese + 2.1% Southeast_English @ 5.5
19 95.5% Portuguese + 4.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.5
20 98.7% Portuguese + 1.3% West_Scottish @ 5.51

Crusader SI47, Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 32.08
2 Atlantic 22.37
3 West_Med 15.25
4 Eastern_Euro 10.08
5 Baltic 9.47
6 West_Asian 6.54
7 Northeast_African 1.73
8 Red_Sea 1.11
9 Siberian 0.69
10 Amerindian 0.67

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 7.26
2 West_German 7.35
3 Southwest_English 8.29
4 French 8.57
5 Southeast_English 10.13
6 North_German 10.47
7 North_Dutch 10.73
8 East_German 10.8
9 Danish 11.17
10 Irish 11.7
11 Norwegian 11.79
12 Orcadian 11.81
13 West_Scottish 11.94
14 Swedish 12.86
15 West_Norwegian 13.14
16 North_Swedish 14.07
17 Spanish_Galicia 14.57
18 Hungarian 14.9
19 Austrian 15.44
20 Spanish_Cataluna 15.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.2% Norwegian + 19.8% Sardinian @ 5.92
2 56.8% Norwegian + 43.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.23
3 78.2% West_Norwegian + 21.8% Sardinian @ 6.28
4 63.4% French + 36.6% Norwegian @ 6.39
5 77.7% Southwest_English + 22.3% Moldavian @ 6.41
6 82.8% North_Dutch + 17.2% Sardinian @ 6.47
7 59.9% Norwegian + 40.1% Portuguese @ 6.5
8 69.1% French + 30.9% North_Swedish @ 6.5
9 53.3% West_Norwegian + 46.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.52
10 62.9% Norwegian + 37.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 6.53
11 78.9% Swedish + 21.1% Sardinian @ 6.57
12 67.4% French + 32.6% West_Norwegian @ 6.58
13 66.8% French + 33.2% Swedish @ 6.59
14 54.1% Swedish + 45.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.62
15 84.2% West_German + 15.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 6.66
16 85.3% West_German + 14.7% Southwest_French @ 6.69
17 51.9% South_Dutch + 48.1% West_German @ 6.69
18 89.6% West_German + 10.4% French_Basque @ 6.7
19 88.9% Southwest_English + 11.1% Nogay @ 6.73
20 90.5% Southwest_English + 9.5% Balkar @ 6.76

RESULTS OF THE ADMIXED GROUP:

Crusader SI41, Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 24.94
2 East_Med 20.89
3 West_Med 19.92
4 North_Sea 14.19
5 Red_Sea 6.61
6 Eastern_Euro 4.11
7 Sub-Saharan 3.67
8 West_Asian 2.71
9 Northeast_African 2.43
10 Oceanian 0.44
11 Baltic 0.05
12 Amerindian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 10.78
2 North_Italian 10.8
3 Spanish_Extremadura 11.84
4 Spanish_Murcia 12.11
5 West_Sicilian 12.37
6 Spanish_Andalucia 12.79
7 Portuguese 13.05
8 Spanish_Valencia 13.94
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.26
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.31
11 Spanish_Galicia 14.58
12 Spanish_Cataluna 14.89
13 Italian_Abruzzo 15.28
14 Spanish_Aragon 15.92
15 Spanish_Cantabria 16.61
16 East_Sicilian 17.19
17 Greek 17.86
18 Greek_Thessaly 18.3
19 Southwest_French 18.36
20 Central_Greek 18.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% Spanish_Aragon + 31.8% Egyptian @ 5.5
2 71.5% Spanish_Valencia + 28.5% Egyptian @ 5.58
3 74.9% Spanish_Murcia + 25.1% Egyptian @ 5.65
4 67% Spanish_Murcia + 33% Tunisian @ 5.72
5 71% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 29% Egyptian @ 5.76
6 63.4% Spanish_Murcia + 36.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.89
7 64.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 35.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.91
8 75.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 24.2% Egyptian @ 5.99
9 61.6% Spanish_Aragon + 38.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.02
10 73.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 26.1% Egyptian @ 6.04
11 68.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 31.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 6.09
12 68.2% Spanish_Murcia + 31.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 6.13
13 80.9% Spanish_Murcia + 19.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 6.14
14 51% Libyan_Jewish + 49% French_Basque @ 6.16
15 77.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 22.7% Yemenite_Jewish @ 6.16
16 64.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 35.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.17
17 79.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 20.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 6.19
18 76.1% Spanish_Murcia + 23.9% Palestinian @ 6.21
19 67.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 32.5% Egyptian @ 6.22
20 68.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 31.8% Tunisian @ 6.25

Crusader SI53, Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.72
2 West_Asian 20.28
3 North_Sea 15.06
4 West_Med 13.94
5 Atlantic 11.63
6 Eastern_Euro 5.45
7 Baltic 4.13
8 Red_Sea 2.73
9 South_Asian 1.69
10 Oceanian 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 8.09
2 Italian_Abruzzo 8.2
3 East_Sicilian 9.51
4 Ashkenazi 9.82
5 Greek_Thessaly 10.43
6 South_Italian 10.66
7 Greek 11.72
8 West_Sicilian 12.21
9 Tuscan 13.5
10 Italian_Jewish 14.42
11 Sephardic_Jewish 15.23
12 Bulgarian 15.72
13 Turkish 15.85
14 Romanian 16.72
15 Algerian_Jewish 16.75
16 Cyprian 18.72
17 North_Italian 18.73
18 Tunisian_Jewish 19
19 Azeri 19.45
20 Libyan_Jewish 19.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.8% Armenian + 45.2% French @ 4.06
2 53.8% Armenian + 46.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.21
3 54.5% Assyrian + 45.5% French @ 4.38
4 80.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.6% Tabassaran @ 4.54
5 53.5% Armenian + 46.5% Portuguese @ 4.55
6 80.8% Central_Greek + 19.2% Tabassaran @ 4.6
7 54.6% Armenian + 45.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.68
8 54% Georgian_Jewish + 46% French @ 4.71
9 54.2% North_Italian + 45.8% Armenian @ 4.89
10 80.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.2% Lezgin @ 4.9
11 53% Georgian_Jewish + 47% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.03
12 77.7% East_Sicilian + 22.3% Tabassaran @ 5.1
13 71.7% West_Sicilian + 28.3% Tabassaran @ 5.18
14 81.7% Central_Greek + 18.3% Lezgin @ 5.23
15 75.1% South_Italian + 24.9% Tabassaran @ 5.24
16 56.9% Assyrian + 43.1% South_Dutch @ 5.25
17 79.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.9% Kumyk @ 5.29
18 60.5% Assyrian + 39.5% Southwest_English @ 5.29
19 57.3% Armenian + 42.7% South_Dutch @ 5.29
20 56.1% Assyrian + 43.9% West_German @ 5.31

Voskos
04-20-2019, 08:33 AM
Can you post SI 53 mdlp k23 results out of curiosity? He seems to plot with s.italy.

Peterski
04-20-2019, 08:39 AM
Can you post SI 53 mdlp k23 results out of curiosity? He seems to plot with s.italy.

He is more Greek than Italian in this calculator:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.53
2 European_Early_Farmers 21.57
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 12.87
4 Near_East 7.9
5 South_Central_Asian 6.98
6 Ancestral_Altaic 3.19
7 North_African 3.16
8 Arctic 1.75
9 South_Indian 0.94
10 African_Pygmy 0.31
11 East_African 0.28
12 East_Siberian 0.24
13 Archaic_African 0.17
14 Austronesian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek ( ) 3.58
2 Greek ( ) 4.52
3 Greek_Athens ( ) 4.81
4 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 5
5 Romanian_Jew ( ) 5.13
6 Cretan ( ) 5.44
7 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 5.82
8 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 5.92
9 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 5.93
10 Ashkenazi ( ) 6.05
11 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 6.34
12 Italian_South ( ) 6.38
13 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 6.46
14 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 6.5
15 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.1
16 Gagauz ( ) 7.23
17 Sicilian_Center ( ) 7.59
18 Sicilian_East ( ) 7.76
19 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 8.09
20 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 8.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.1% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 47.9% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 2.15
2 90.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.2% Kurd ( ) @ 2.3
3 89.7% Central_Greek ( ) + 10.3% Kurd_North ( ) @ 2.34
4 90.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.2% Kurd_East ( ) @ 2.35
5 90.7% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.3% Kurd_South ( ) @ 2.38
6 82.1% Greek_Northwest ( ) + 17.9% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2.41
7 90.2% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.8% Azeri ( ) @ 2.42
8 91.5% Central_Greek ( ) + 8.5% Baku_WGA ( ) @ 2.45
9 95.7% Greek_Athens ( ) + 4.3% Kalash ( ) @ 2.46
10 86.6% Central_Greek ( ) + 13.4% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 2.46
11 54.7% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) + 45.3% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 2.47
12 92.6% Greek_Athens ( ) + 7.4% Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) @ 2.47
13 92.2% Greek_Athens ( ) + 7.8% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) @ 2.48
14 88.3% Central_Greek ( ) + 11.7% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.48
15 90.2% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.8% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 2.5
16 90.1% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.9% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 2.51
17 91.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 8.2% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 2.51
18 90.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.2% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 2.52
19 92.5% Central_Greek ( ) + 7.5% Lak ( ) @ 2.56
20 88.1% Central_Greek ( ) + 11.9% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.57

Voskos
04-20-2019, 08:54 AM
Interesting. His autosomal looks strange so i think ydna is more reliable in this case. Maybe a Latin or a West euro who mixed with middle easterners, or anatolians?
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-DF63/

guezet
04-20-2019, 10:27 AM
RESULTS OF THE ADMIXED GROUP:

Crusader SI41

MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 32.35
2 Caucasian 22.82
3 Steppe 14.22
4 NorthEastEuropean 10.65
5 NorthAfrican 6.45
6 NearEast 5.94
7 EastAfrican 3.63
8 Subsaharian 2.4
9 Indian 1.39
10 Siberian 0.13
11 Arctic 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Corsican (Corsica) 7.04
2 Portuguese (Portugal) 7.91
3 Jew (Belmonte) 8.68
4 Italian (NorthIitaly) 8.77
5 Spanish (Baleares) 10
6 Italian (Bergamo) 10
7 Italian (Tuscany) 10.12
8 Provencal (Provence) 10.19
9 Swiss (Switzerland) 10.56
10 Spanish (Extremadura) 10.82
11 Italian (Friul) 11.06
12 Spanish (Spain) 11.15
13 Spanish (Canarias) 11.37
14 Spanish (Murcia) 11.45
15 Spanish (Andalucia) 11.62
16 Spanish (Galicia) 11.84
17 Kosovar (Kosovo) 12.87
18 Spanish (Castilla_y_Leon) 13
19 Italian (Abruzzo) 13
20 Romanian (Gorj) 13.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.4% Spanish (Andalucia) + 27.6% Egyptian (Egypt) @ 2.43
2 74.5% Spanish (Andalucia) + 25.5% BedouinA (Negev) @ 3.23
3 71.8% Spanish (Andalucia) + 28.2% Arab_Israel (Shefa_Amr) @ 3.25
4 72.6% Spanish (Andalucia) + 27.4% Jordanian (Jordanian) @ 3.38
5 75.9% Spanish (Baleares) + 24.1% Libyan (Libya) @ 3.4
6 74% Spanish (Andalucia) + 26% Palestinian (Israel) @ 3.42
7 72.5% Spanish (Murcia) + 27.5% Samaritan (Israel) @ 3.73
8 61.1% Spanish (Andalucia) + 38.9% Jew (Algeria) @ 3.82
9 69.6% Spanish (Castilla_y_Leon) + 30.4% Samaritan (Israel) @ 3.85
10 79.5% Jew (Belmonte) + 20.5% Basque (France) @ 3.89
11 72.3% Spanish (Andalucia) + 27.7% Samaritan (Israel) @ 3.96
12 64.4% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 35.6% Jew (Tunisian) @ 4.01
13 74.2% Spanish (Andalucia) + 25.8% Syrian (Syria) @ 4.01
14 72.4% Spanish (Andalucia) + 27.6% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) @ 4.07
15 69.3% Spanish (Andalucia) + 30.7% Jew (Syria) @ 4.13
16 50.1% French (SouthFrance) + 49.9% Jew (Libya) @ 4.15
17 71.9% Spanish (Andalucia) + 28.1% Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) @ 4.16
18 72.4% Spanish (Murcia) + 27.6% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) @ 4.22
19 56.7% French (SouthFrance) + 43.3% Egyptian (Mansoura_Cairo) @ 4.25
20 69.5% Spanish (Castilla_y_Leon) + 30.5% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) @ 4.32

MDLP K23b Oracle results:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Early_Farmers 33.44
2 Caucasian 23.3
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.77
4 North_African 9.38
5 Near_East 7.44
6 South_Central_Asian 3.4
7 East_African 2.77
8 Subsaharian 1.68
9 Ancestral_Altaic 1.51
10 East_Siberian 1.06
11 Austronesian 0.81
12 Archaic_African 0.8
13 Archaic_Human 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Portugese ( ) 9.82
2 Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) 10.83
3 French ( ) 11.63
4 Italian_Bergamo ( ) 12.49
5 Belgian ( ) 12.55
6 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 12.76
7 South_German ( ) 12.78
8 English ( ) 12.99
9 Italian_North ( ) 13.51
10 Frisian ( ) 13.56
11 German-Volga ( ) 13.63
12 North_European ( ) 13.65
13 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 13.69
14 Welsh ( ) 14.04
15 Spaniard ( ) 14.09
16 Irish ( ) 14.13
17 CEU ( ) 14.39
18 British ( ) 14.79
19 Dutch ( ) 15.06
20 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) 15.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.6% Portugese ( ) + 19.4% Palestinian ( ) @ 2.79
2 72.2% Portugese ( ) + 27.8% Moroccan_Jew ( ) @ 2.92
3 82% Portugese ( ) + 18% Samaritian ( ) @ 3.01
4 64.4% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) + 35.6% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) @ 3.03
5 81.4% Portugese ( ) + 18.6% Lebanese ( ) @ 3.06
6 72.8% Portugese ( ) + 27.2% Libyan_Jew ( ) @ 3.08
7 74.9% Portugese ( ) + 25.1% Turk_Jew ( ) @ 3.09
8 75.7% Portugese ( ) + 24.3% Tunisian_Jew ( ) @ 3.1
9 72.5% Spaniard ( ) + 27.5% Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) @ 3.14
10 84% Portugese ( ) + 16% Lebanese_Christian ( ) @ 3.15
11 82% Portugese ( ) + 18% Lebanese_Muslim ( ) @ 3.15
12 72.5% Spaniard ( ) + 27.5% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 3.16
13 61.2% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) + 38.8% Libyan_Jew ( ) @ 3.27
14 58.4% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) + 41.6% Sicilian_West ( ) @ 3.28
15 68.9% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) + 31.1% Greek_Phokaia ( ) @ 3.3
16 68.9% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 31.1% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 3.31
17 85.5% Portugese ( ) + 14.5% Druze ( ) @ 3.32
18 74.4% Portugese ( ) + 25.6% Sephardic_Jew ( ) @ 3.32
19 84.1% Portugese ( ) + 15.9% Lebanese_Druze ( ) @ 3.33
20 69% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) + 31% Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) @ 3.33


Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 37.38
2 Caucasus 18.87
3 North_European 17.90
4 Northwest_African 8.67
5 Southwest_Asian 8.44
6 Gedrosia 3.20
7 Sub_Saharan 2.93
8 East_African 2.24


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 12.299514
2 North_Italian_HGDP @ 12.791687
3 TSI30_Metspalu @ 13.413296
4 Canarias_1000Genomes @ 13.765563
5 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 14.104577
6 Tuscan_HGDP @ 15.117364
7 Portuguese_Dodecad @ 15.409299
8 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 15.485755
9 Galicia_1000Genomes @ 15.639492
10 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 15.710630
11 Extremadura_1000Genomes @ 15.761408
12 Murcia_1000Genomes @ 16.315159
13 Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes @ 18.206755
14 Andalucia_1000Genomes @ 18.212278
15 Spanish_Dodecad @ 20.188158
16 Spaniards_Behar @ 20.362900
17 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 21.128773
18 Cataluna_1000Genomes @ 21.392902
19 Castilla_La_Mancha_1000Genomes @ 21.554752
20 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 21.791391

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Canarias_1000Genomes +50% O_Italian_Dodecad @ 6.019690


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Canarias_1000Genomes +25% Morocco_Jews_Behar +25% Romanians_Behar @ 4.220470


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Algerian_Dodecad + Hungarians_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Sardinian_HGDP @ 1.762069
2 Algerian_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + French_Basque_HGDP + Greek_Dodecad @ 2.012456
3 Algerian_Dodecad + French_Basque_HGDP + Greek_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 2.043910
4 Algerian_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + C_Italian_Dodecad + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 2.074777
5 Algerian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + North_Italian_HGDP @ 2.082418
6 Algerian_Dodecad + German_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Sardinian_HGDP @ 2.126711
7 Algerian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP @ 2.127675
8 Algerian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + French_Basque_HGDP + Greek_Dodecad @ 2.186950
9 Algerian_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP + Swedish_Dodecad @ 2.306883
10 Algerian_Dodecad + Baleares_1000Genomes + North_Italian_HGDP + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.323859
11 Algerian_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + C_Italian_Dodecad + French_Basque_HGDP @ 2.335352
12 Algerian_Dodecad + Cataluna_1000Genomes + North_Italian_HGDP + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.340451
13 Algerian_Dodecad + Galicia_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 2.351126
14 Algerian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes @ 2.354181
15 Algerian_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + O_Italian_Dodecad + Spaniards_Behar @ 2.361815
16 Algerian_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + North_Italian_HGDP + North_Italian_HGDP @ 2.381261
17 Algerian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Spaniards_Behar @ 2.385453
18 Algerian_Dodecad + Cataluna_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad + Tuscan_HGDP @ 2.391614
19 Algerian_Dodecad + Cantabria_1000Genomes + N_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.400987
20 Algerian_Dodecad + Galicia_1000Genomes + North_Italian_HGDP + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.404445

Done.

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Crusader SI53

MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.67
2 Neolithic 25.52
3 Steppe 15.97
4 NorthEastEuropean 8.64
5 NearEast 4.58
6 Indian 1.98
7 NorthAfrican 1.49
8 Subsaharian 0.87
9 Arctic 0.51
10 Oceanic 0.49
11 Ancestor 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Athens) 4.13
2 Italian (SouthItaly) 5.31
3 Greek (Macedonia) 5.36
4 Greek (Greece) 6.02
5 Italian (Abruzzo) 6.06
6 Sicilian (Sicily) 6.3
7 Jew (Ashkenazi) 6.34
8 Greek (Greece) 6.64
9 Greek (Peloponnes) 6.78
10 Greek (Thessaloniki) 7.33
11 Albanian (Albania) 7.45
12 Jew (Ashkenazim) 7.46
13 Maltese (Malta) 8.17
14 Jew (Ashkenazi) 8.6
15 Jew (Bulgaria) 9.14
16 Kosovar (Kosovo) 9.67
17 Jew (Italian) 10.09
18 Italian (Tuscany) 10.11
19 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 10.35
20 Jew (Sephardim) 10.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.1% Italian (Tuscany) + 29.9% Georgian (Georgia) @ 2.13
2 54% Armenian (Armenia) + 46% Spanish (Aragon) @ 2.18
3 71.3% Italian (Tuscany) + 28.7% Georgians (Zugdidi) @ 2.21
4 68.4% Italian (Tuscany) + 31.6% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) @ 2.3
5 60.9% Italian (Bergamo) + 39.1% Armenian (Armenia) @ 2.39
6 69% Italian (Tuscany) + 31% Adjar (Adjaria) @ 2.41
7 59.5% Armenian (Armenia) + 40.5% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.48
8 51.7% Spanish (Baleares) + 48.3% Georgian (Laz) @ 2.49
9 71.5% Italian (Tuscany) + 28.5% Abkhazian (Gudauta) @ 2.5
10 59.8% Italian (Bergamo) + 40.2% Georgian (Georgia) @ 2.66
11 69.9% Italian (Tuscany) + 30.1% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) @ 2.66
12 57.9% Italian (Bergamo) + 42.1% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) @ 2.78
13 69.5% Corsican (Corsica) + 30.5% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 2.86
14 65.3% Italian (Tuscany) + 34.7% Armenian (Erzrum) @ 2.91
15 50.3% Armenian (Armenia) + 49.7% Spanish (Andalucia) @ 2.92
16 50.2% Turk (Trabzon) + 49.8% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) @ 2.92
17 58.5% Italian (Bergamo) + 41.5% Adjar (Adjaria) @ 2.95
18 56.3% Georgian (Laz) + 43.7% Spanish (Aragon) @ 2.95
19 61.3% Italian (Bergamo) + 38.7% Georgians (Zugdidi) @ 2.98
20 65.1% Corsican (Corsica) + 34.9% Georgian (Megrelia) @ 3.06


MDLP K23b Oracle results:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.53
2 European_Early_Farmers 21.57
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 12.87
4 Near_East 7.9
5 South_Central_Asian 6.98
6 Ancestral_Altaic 3.19
7 North_African 3.16
8 Arctic 1.75
9 South_Indian 0.94
10 African_Pygmy 0.31
11 East_African 0.28
12 East_Siberian 0.24
13 Archaic_African 0.17
14 Austronesian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek ( ) 3.58
2 Greek ( ) 4.52
3 Greek_Athens ( ) 4.81
4 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 5
5 Romanian_Jew ( ) 5.13
6 Cretan ( ) 5.44
7 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 5.82
8 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 5.92
9 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 5.93
10 Ashkenazi ( ) 6.05
11 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 6.34
12 Italian_South ( ) 6.38
13 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 6.46
14 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 6.5
15 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.1
16 Gagauz ( ) 7.23
17 Sicilian_Center ( ) 7.59
18 Sicilian_East ( ) 7.76
19 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 8.09
20 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 8.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.1% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 47.9% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 2.15
2 90.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.2% Kurd ( ) @ 2.3
3 89.7% Central_Greek ( ) + 10.3% Kurd_North ( ) @ 2.34
4 90.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.2% Kurd_East ( ) @ 2.35
5 90.7% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.3% Kurd_South ( ) @ 2.38
6 82.1% Greek_Northwest ( ) + 17.9% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2.41
7 90.2% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.8% Azeri ( ) @ 2.42
8 91.5% Central_Greek ( ) + 8.5% Baku_WGA ( ) @ 2.45
9 95.7% Greek_Athens ( ) + 4.3% Kalash ( ) @ 2.46
10 86.6% Central_Greek ( ) + 13.4% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 2.46
11 54.7% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) + 45.3% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 2.47
12 92.6% Greek_Athens ( ) + 7.4% Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) @ 2.47
13 92.2% Greek_Athens ( ) + 7.8% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) @ 2.48
14 88.3% Central_Greek ( ) + 11.7% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.48
15 90.2% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.8% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 2.5
16 90.1% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.9% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 2.51
17 91.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 8.2% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 2.51
18 90.8% Central_Greek ( ) + 9.2% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 2.52
19 92.5% Central_Greek ( ) + 7.5% Lak ( ) @ 2.56
20 88.1% Central_Greek ( ) + 11.9% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.57



Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.79
2 Atlantic_Med 27.16
3 North_European 18.68
4 Southwest_Asian 9.76
5 Gedrosia 8.18
6 Northwest_African 1.46
7 Sub_Saharan 0.7
8 Siberian 0.59
9 South_Asian 0.36
10 East_African 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 6.39
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.08
3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 8.13
4 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 8.49
5 Sicilian (Dodecad) 8.89
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 10.01
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 10.43
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 11.08
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.11
10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 14.75
11 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 16.32
12 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.85
13 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.88
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.1
15 Romanians (Behar) 17.69
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 19
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.67
18 Cypriots (Behar) 22.03
19 Turks (Behar) 23.05
20 Lebanese (Behar) 25.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 20.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 1.52
2 78.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.64
3 74.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Turks (Behar) @ 1.67
4 72.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.89
5 80.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.1% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 1.92
6 80.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.9% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 1.97
7 62% Cypriots (Behar) + 38% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.02
8 80.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.08
9 80.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 2.13
10 65.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 34.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.17
11 64% Cypriots (Behar) + 36% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.17
12 64% Cypriots (Behar) + 36% English (Dodecad) @ 2.21
13 63.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 36.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.26
14 65.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 34.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.27
15 63.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 36.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.3
16 65.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 34.4% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.31
17 79.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 20.1% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.32
18 92.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.33
19 65.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 34.5% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.36
20 80.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.5% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.37

Abdelnour
04-20-2019, 10:47 AM
Cool results. I am fascinated about Crusaders DNA in the Levant. We were told of having Crusader ancestry through France but in those samples, many were diverse with diverse origins.

Token
04-20-2019, 11:32 AM
Funny how the authors couldn't distinguish Germans from Basques. SI41 with DF27 must be a Southeast Spaniard of the time.

guezet
04-20-2019, 11:56 AM
Funny how the authors couldn't distinguish Germans from Basques. SI41 with DF27 must be a Southeast Spaniard of the time.

this is where SI41 plots

https://i.imgur.com/8Z6F5J0.jpg

Token
04-20-2019, 12:00 PM
this is where SI41 plots

https://i.imgur.com/8Z6F5J0.jpg

Yeah, somewhere between Spaniards and Northwest Africans, very similar to the pre-Reconquista Southeast Spaniards.

Blondie
04-20-2019, 12:04 PM
Interesting thread :thumb001:

guezet
04-20-2019, 12:05 PM
Yeah, somewhere between Spaniards and Northwest Africans, very similar to the pre-Reconquista Southeast Spaniards.


Well, SI41 is definitely closer to Spaniards than to Northwest Africans.

Voskos
04-20-2019, 01:09 PM
Whats impressive is the roman era levantines seem to plot with their modern descendants.

Token
04-20-2019, 01:19 PM
Whats impressive is the roman era levantines seem to plot with their modern descendants.

What is so impressive about that?

Voskos
04-20-2019, 01:23 PM
@token. That they plot close to the moderns despite the arab and ottoman conquests.

TeutonicBoyars
04-20-2019, 02:08 PM
I'm surprised about the higher than average continental African admixture in the German-looking samples. Any theories for why this is? Also I thought they all plotted closest to Spaniards in the original study; does this mean GEDmatch just sucks or the researcher's methods suck?

Lucas
04-20-2019, 09:59 PM
Peterski or others post their K36 too... I'm on the phone now only.

Arsen_
04-20-2019, 10:42 PM
By the way, according to the order established by the pontiffs, the Crusaders, if they created families with local women, they were allowed to marry only Armenian women. And during the existence of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, most of the Queens of the Kingdom were women of Armenian origin.

Oneeye
04-20-2019, 10:46 PM
How about SI38?

War Chef
04-20-2019, 10:47 PM
By the way, according to the order established by the pontiffs, the Crusaders, if they created families with local women, they were allowed to marry only Armenian women. And during the existence of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, most of the Queens of the Kingdom were women of Armenian origin.

CRUSADER BLOOD LIVES ON IN ARMENIANS WOOOT......

not really though genetics doesn't seem to say that.

Arsen_
04-20-2019, 10:54 PM
CRUSADER BLOOD LIVES ON IN ARMENIANS WOOOT......

not really though genetics doesn't seem to say that.

Genetics is a prostitute that any douchebag interprets as he wants, but I'm talking about facts that most of the Queens of the Kingdom of Jerusalem were women of Armenian origin.

Tigranes
04-20-2019, 10:55 PM
By the way, according to the order established by the pontiffs, the Crusaders, if they created families with local women, they were allowed to marry only Armenian women. And during the existence of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, most of the Queens of the Kingdom were women of Armenian origin.


CRUSADER BLOOD LIVES ON IN ARMENIANS WOOOT......

not really though genetics doesn't seem to say that.

https://i.ibb.co/S5bBwgX/Screenshot-2019-04-21-01-53-02-1.png

Token
04-20-2019, 10:56 PM
Genetics is a prostitute that any douchebag interprets as he wants, but I'm talking about facts that most of the Queens of the Kingdom of Jerusalem were women of Armenian origin.

Are you that proud of having your women getting assfucked by Northern Europeans?

Tigranes
04-20-2019, 11:22 PM
Genetics is a prostitute that any douchebag interprets as he wants, but I'm talking about facts that most of the Queens of the Kingdom of Jerusalem were women of Armenian origin.

https://i.ibb.co/nkfNPp8/Screenshot-2019-04-21-01-59-36-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/c6nmnFx/Screenshot-2019-04-21-01-59-51-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/ySCPgzF/Screenshot-2019-04-21-01-59-55-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/bJvJ7R9/Screenshot-2019-04-21-02-00-06-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/bH06qNc/Screenshot-2019-04-21-02-00-12-1-1-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/XZg4r46/Screenshot-2019-04-21-02-00-30-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/ZVM2V9D/Screenshot-2019-04-21-02-00-37-1.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/1MLZJQW/Screenshot-2019-04-21-02-01-05-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/XFWFKtq/Screenshot-2019-04-21-02-01-17-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/4mJWS4w/Screenshot-2019-04-21-02-01-25-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/MMfRwFT/Screenshot-2019-04-21-02-01-29-1.png

Tigranes
04-20-2019, 11:43 PM
Are you that proud of having your women getting assfucked by Northern Europeans?

Would you prefer Southern Europeans instead, is that what are you trying to say?

Arsen_
04-20-2019, 11:58 PM
Are you that proud of having your women getting assfucked by Northern Europeans?

Actually I would be very upset, if something like that happened today, but it was a thousand years ago so it is just very interesting ancient history and nothing to be proud or ashamed of!

And by the way to enter into a legal marriage and even more to become a queen does not mean to "be assfucked"! :picard1:

Not a Cop
04-21-2019, 12:07 AM
Actually I would be very upset, if something like that happened today, but it was a thousand years ago so it is just very interesting ancient history and nothing to be proud or ashamed of!


What's there to be ashamed off? Are you ashamed of armenian girls marrying russians here?

Arsen_
04-21-2019, 12:13 AM
What's there to be ashamed off? Are you ashamed of armenian girls marrying russians here?

Russians not, but muslims definirely Yes!