DNA from the Shroud of Turin

[Peterski]

I've just watched a documentary on TV about this and apparently preliminary results are similar to modern Israeli and Lebanese Druzes.

Which in such case would prove the authenticity of the Shroud, because Ancient Jews (such as Jesus) could have this autosomal profile.

[Armenian Bishop]

That's a significant breakthrough. In my opinion, the Shroud of Turin might well be genuine.

[J. Ketch]

Thank god I’m not a Catholic, worshipping some old Jew stained rag.

[smurph]

Fake and also blasphemous. True Christians shouldn't need "proof" to cement their faith.

[Oneeye]

Just "proof" that it was taken from the area.

[Zmey Gorynych]

Can a piece of cloth that is 2000 years old retain usable DNA?

[Levant15]

I think you're referring to this study. mtDNA of tens of people was found and one them was H33 which is highest among Druzes but it is still present among Palestinian Christians and even Lebanese. So saying the Jews were similar to Druze based on one sample is not representative of a whole population.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep14484

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[Not a Cop]

Can a piece of cloth that is 2000 years old retain usable DNA?

Actually it can, you can obtain DNA even from postal marks.

[Zmey Gorynych]

Actually it can, you can obtain DNA even from postal marks.
None of the postal marks are 2000 years old though. That cloth must've been kept in some top notch conditions.

[Petalpusher]

Wasn't the controversy actually about the blood spatter likely from someone standing, so other source(s).

[Peterski]

Wasn't the controversy actually about the blood spatter likely from someone standing, so other source(s).

I don't know I just watched a fragment of that documentary. I don't know when it was produced or about which study it was.

But they aired it on TV few days ago.

[smurph]

TV documentaries aren't a reliable source for information, in general. Also, the scientists who claim that the shroud is legitimately Christ's seem to be victims of confirmation bias, imo.

No harm in discussing it though.

[Bosniensis]

Is there a Gedmatch ID?

[Morena]

I have a video of the announcement that was done from the Genetic study. The Druze MT was from the man whose blood was found on the shroud. Most of the genetic markers were middle eastern, especially the older ones. They were shorter and not as complete as the, newer, European ones. Nearly half of the individuals were from India, as the Sindarin cloth was produced there.


https://youtu.be/WzFL5jcWCBY

Anyway, I obviously believe in its authenticity because of the great number of miracles involved in creating it (it's not been recreated by anyone), and its uniqueness. I don't see why God wouldn't leave proof of his divinity and Resurrection, as he was perfectly happy to show St. Thomas his sides and hands as proof. I don't worship the cloth and neither do I depend on it for my faith.

[Morena]

Is there a Gedmatch ID?

That's what I want to know. lol.