Why isn't MT DNA talked as much as Y DNA?

[21993]

MT DNA is also an indicator of ancestry.

[Matxe92]

Because usually MT haplogroups are very unspecific, mainly because many of the haplogroups are present everywhere in Europe, plus the fact that many people don't want to research them, therefore less information.
Unlike Y-dna haplogroups which are more specific and can tell a bit more.

[Blondie]

Because usually MT haplogroups are very unspecific, mainly because many of the haplogroups are present everywhere in Europe, plus the fact that many people don't want to research them, therefore less information.
Unlike Y-dna haplogroups which are more specific and can tell a bit more.

Yes + Y haplogroup cannot change, so your y haplo and your medieval xxxxxxx great grand father's y haplo is same.

[21993]

Yes + Y haplogroup cannot change, so your y haplo and your medieval xxxxxxx great grand father's y haplo is same.

MT DNA do not can either. Your MT DNA and your medieval xxxxxxx great grand mother's MT DNA is same.

[Blondie]

MT DNA do not can either. Your MT DNA and your medieval xxxxxxx great grand mother's MT DNA is same.

Absolutely not. For example if my grandmother was H3, if my grandfather was I1 than my father would be I1 + H3 later he make a baby with another woman (H5) than this baby would be I1 + H 5 and not H3.

[Matxe92]

Absolutely not. For example if my grandmother was H3, if my grandfather was I1 than my father would be I1 + H3 later he make a baby with another woman (H5) than this baby would be I1 + H 5 and not H3.

Mtdna and y-dna follows your direct maternal or paternal lineage. The same principles apply for both, they behave the same. Mutations occur once every couple of hundred years.

But yes, i wont give my Mtdna haplogroup on to my children that will come from their mother, but i will give my Y-dna to my sons.

[Bellbeaking]

mitrochondrial dna has a higher mutation rate, also you have much more female ancestors than males meaning much more mtdna types and more random distribution

[21993]

Absolutely not. For example if my grandmother was H3, if my grandfather was I1 than my father would be I1 + H3 later he make a baby with another woman (H5) than this baby would be I1 + H 5 and not H3.

Your father's mother was H3. You, your mother, her mother, her grandmother, her great-grandmother, her great-great-grandmother would all be H5a6.

[21993]

also you have much more female ancestors than males meaning much more mtdna types and more random distribution

Do we?

[Blondie]

Your father's mother was H3. You, your mother, her mother, her grandmother, her great-grandmother, her great-great-grandmother would all be H5a6.

Wrong again, your maternal ancestry cannot be same because almost every woman has different mtdna.

[21993]

Wrong again, your maternal ancestry cannot be same because almost every woman has different mtdna.

People get their MT DNA directly from their mother. I do not know what my MT DNA is but it would be the same as my mother and my maternal grandmother.

[Blondie]

People get their MT DNA directly from their mother. I do not know what my MT DNA is but it would be the same as my mother and my maternal grandmother.

No because your mother and your grand mother came from totally different family. Your mtdna is same with your mother's mtdna that's all.

[21993]

No because your mother and your grand mother came from totally different family. Your mtdna is same with your mother's mtdna that's all.

And my mother's mtdna is the same as her mother. :)

[Bellbeaking]

Do we?

yep about twice as many, seems paradoxical but think about it for a bit

[21993]

yep about twice as many, seems paradoxical but think about it for a bit

I think it is equal a person is born from one male and one female.

[Dorian]

Besides the rest of answers, it's "patriarchal instinct" forefather of tribes>clans>smaller families, it's the equivalent surname of DNA.

[Skjaldemjøden]

Absolutely not. For example if my grandmother was H3, if my grandfather was I1 than my father would be I1 + H3 later he make a baby with another woman (H5) than this baby would be I1 + H 5 and not H3.

MtDNA Haplogroups work the exact same way. If your father was an I1 then so was his father, and his father's father, and his father's father'sfather etc. If your mother was H5 then so was her mother, and her mother's mother, and her mother's mother's mother etc. The parallel to your example would be this: If your maternal grandmother was an H5 and your maternal grandfather was an R1b, then your mother would be an H5. If she later had a son and a daughter with your father, who's Y haplogroup is I1 and Mt haplogroup is H3, the son would be an I1 and H5 while the daughter would only be an H5. Your daughter would also be an H5.

https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/216970208/maternal_and_paternal_inheritance.png

[Skjaldemjøden]

To answer OP, Dorian is right. The reason is patrilineality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrilineality).

[TheMaestro]

Absolutely not. For example if my grandmother was H3, if my grandfather was I1 than my father would be I1 + H3 later he make a baby with another woman (H5) than this baby would be I1 + H 5 and not H3.

LOL NO

[Blondie]

MtDNA Haplogroups work the exact same way. If your father was an I1 then so was his father, and his father's father, and his father's father'sfather etc. If your mother was H5 then so was her mother, and her mother's mother, and her mother's mother's mother etc. The parallel to your example would be this: If your maternal grandmother was an H5 and your maternal grandfather was an R1b, then your mother would be an H5. If she later had a son and a daughter with your father, who's Y haplogroup is I1 and Mt haplogroup is H3, the son would be an I1 and H5 while the daughter would only be an H5. Your daughter would also be an H5.

https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/216970208/maternal_and_paternal_inheritance.png

My mother's haplogroup isn't same as my grand mother's haplogroup from father side because my mother is not a daughter of my father's mother (but she came from a different family with different mtdna) and the child's mtdna is always came from his/her mother. So my mtdna is not same as my grand mother from father side. I've talked about this.

[Bellbeaking]

My mother's haplogroup isn't same as my grand mother's haplogroup from father side because my mother is not a daughter of my father's mother (but she came from a different family with different mtdna) and the child's mtdna is always came from his/her mother. So my mtdna is not same as my grand mother from father side. I've talked about this.

mtdna mother>daughter>daughter :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))))

haplo father>son> son >son

[Bellbeaking]

I think it is equal a person is born from one male and one female.

yep but most women will have a few children, some men will have a lot and many men will have NONE

:)
:0 !!

[Bosniensis]

Woman don't have Y-DNA so.. you can have 3 different women and still spread your Y-DNA they cant't heheheh

[21993]

you can have 3 different women and still spread your Y-DNA they cant't heheheh

But that would be sexist :D

[Bosniensis]

But that would be sexist :D

Feminists must be angry on God because he gave advantage to males.

[Nurzat]

Because usually MT haplogroups are very unspecific, mainly because many of the haplogroups are present everywhere in Europe, plus the fact that many people don't want to research them, therefore less information.
Unlike Y-dna haplogroups which are more specific and can tell a bit more.

also, you're the son of your father, who cares about the maternal ancestry

[Moje ime]

So female child gets mother's mdna and male child gets father's ydna and what mdna will get male child?

[Moje ime]

Woman don't have Y-DNA so.. you can have 3 different women and still spread your Y-DNA they cant't heheheh

I don't see the problem. Women inherit mdna from their female ancestors.

[Longbowman]

Absolutely not. For example if my grandmother was H3, if my grandfather was I1 than my father would be I1 + H3 later he make a baby with another woman (H5) than this baby would be I1 + H 5 and not H3.

I don't think you understand at all. But that's fine.

[Bellbeaking]

I don't think you understand at all. But that's fine.

HELLO JEW

[Longbowman]

HELLO JEW

r00d

[Bellbeaking]

r00d

are you here to spread ((( ((()()()(((((((((()()()cultural marxism_))))))())()))) )))

[Longbowman]

are you here to spread ((( ((()()()(((((((((()()()cultural marxism_))))))())()))) )))

ye

[Kazimiera]

I agree. Why isn't it talked about as much? I have quite a rare mtDNA haplogroup and the only posts I've seen on this forum about it are the ones I made. :(

[21993]

So female child gets mother's mdna and male child gets father's ydna and what mdna will get male child?

His mother's.

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

Women have been regarded as spoils of war for the last 10,000 years. hence the enormous diversity under mtdna. the information you receive from your mtdna cannot be compared with the y-dna. according to yfull / mtree I have a Hungarian and Polish match. what can I conclude from this? nothing.

[Skjaldemjøden]

My mother's haplogroup isn't same as my grand mother's haplogroup from father side because my mother is not a daughter of my father's mother (but she came from a different family with different mtdna) and the child's mtdna is always came from his/her mother. So my mtdna is not same as my grand mother from father side. I've talked about this.

Right. And your father doesn't have the same Y-haplogroup as your maternal grandfather because he isn't his son. They are exact parallels. If this confuses you, just imagine that women inherit the Y-haplogroup of their fathers but can't pass it on. Here:

https://i.postimg.cc/cLs8n55p/haplo.png

[Dick]

MT DNA is also an indicator of ancestry.

It is but you need to do a full sequence test at Ftdna to find out. They are the only company that does such a test.

Mine is obviously "Slavic" which was no surprise.. Meanwhile my Ydna is northwest Euro/Scandinavian. Go figure.

https://i.imgur.com/l2KrtU1.png
https://i.imgur.com/bkKp8OZ.jpg

[dosas]

Mtdna is very useful for tracing migrations also, albeit in different manner. For research purposes, it holds great importance.

It's just that on forums like this one, most posters are men, so naturally we are more interested in the origin of the chromosome that we are able to pass on to our sons.

[Nazarene]

Patriarchy makes the world go round

[Pandit]

Because it's useless. We take our identity from your father's not mothers.

[Longbowman]

Because it's useless. We take our identity from your father's not mothers.

Historically not always true, not even in India. Plenty of groups, particularly in south-central and southeast Asia that go matrilineally. However, it's definitely not true today. If a white man has a kid with a black woman, the child is black. YDNA is irrelevant there. It's also true for most of Europe. A double-digit integer percentage of nearly every ethnic group doesn't have the mainstream YDNA of that group, but yet is part of it, because identity is a lot more fluid than you're intimating.

Imagine if your dad had been French and your mum, Indian. You'd still be seen as Indian by most people in Canada and the US, because that's how whiteness works.

[Lemgrant]

Historically not always true, not even in India. Plenty of groups, particularly in south-central and southeast Asia that go matrilineally. However, it's definitely not true today. If a white man has a kid with a black woman, the child is black. YDNA is irrelevant there. It's also true for most of Europe. A double-digit integer percentage of nearly every ethnic group doesn't have the mainstream YDNA of that group, but yet is part of it, because identity is a lot more fluid than you're intimating.

Imagine if your dad had been French and your mum, Indian. You'd still be seen as Indian by most people in Canada and the US, because that's how whiteness works.

It's also true for half white and half East Asian. Kids always look very East Asian, despite being only 50% EA.

[Leto]

Imagine if your dad had been French and your mum, Indian. You'd still be seen as Indian by most people in Canada and the US, because that's how whiteness works.
Even if one's name is John Smith? I doubt. Besides half Indians may not look stereotypically Indian. More like vaguely Middle Eastern, swarthy Woggistani.

[Longbowman]

Even if one's name is John Smith? I doubt. Besides half Indians may not look stereotypically Indian. More like vaguely Middle Eastern, swarthy Woggistani.

Lots of non-whites (particularly blacks) with Anglo names and even surnames, loads of mixed race people in major cities too. No one views them as white, despite what their dad might have been

[oszkar07]

I think neither are as interesting as autosomal results.

[arkas]

Historically not always true, not even in India. Plenty of groups, particularly in south-central and southeast Asia that go matrilineally. However, it's definitely not true today. If a white man has a kid with a black woman, the child is black. YDNA is irrelevant there. It's also true for most of Europe. A double-digit integer percentage of nearly every ethnic group doesn't have the mainstream YDNA of that group, but yet is part of it, because identity is a lot more fluid than you're intimating.

Imagine if your dad had been French and your mum, Indian. You'd still be seen as Indian by most people in Canada and the US, because that's how whiteness works.

Nah that isn't how it works, you'll be viewed based on how you look. If you look racially ambigious or just White or just Black then you'll be judged accordingly. Since your girlfriend is half East Asian and White, do you really think of her as just being full Asian?

[Leto]

Lots of non-whites (particularly blacks) with Anglo names and even surnames, loads of mixed race people in major cities too. No one views them as white, despite what their dad might have been
My post didn't say anything about looking white.

[Figaro]

I agree. Why isn't it talked about as much? I have quite a rare mtDNA haplogroup and the only posts I've seen on this forum about it are the ones I made. :(

I know your pain!

[Longbowman]

My post didn't say anything about looking white.

It did say stuff about looking Indian which is the inverse of the specific example we're talking about, don't be facaetious.


Nah that isn't how it works, you'll be viewed based on how you look.

that's what I said you numpty


If you look racially ambigious or just White or just Black then you'll be judged accordingly. Since your girlfriend is half East Asian and White, do you really think of her as just being full Asian?

uh, I see her as a PERSON, racist.

she doesn't look full Asian anyhow. But she isn't white.

[J. Ketch]

Because it's useless. We take our identity from your father's not mothers.
Who’s we? Indians don’t speak for anyone but themselves.

[arkas]

uh, I see her as a PERSON, racist.

she doesn't look full Asian anyhow. But she isn't white.
So do you consider her to be a completely separate race?


Who’s we? Indians don’t speak for anyone but themselves.
Funnily enough they actually went by maternal lineage, traditionally it was a matriarchal society in South and Southeast Asia before the alleged indo-european invasion who introduced the patriarchy. Some remote tribal people still practice that along with a pre-Hindu religion.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

My mtdna is I.

[Borealis]

India still is a largely matriarchal society.

[Longbowman]

So do you consider her to be a completely separate race?

the HUMAN race is the only RACE that matters. Also the 400m race. LOL

anyway she's mixed race

[Petalpusher]

It's even smaller than the Y, which is already anecdotic in the grand scheme of things, so you can only bother about it for fun.

Unless you re a girl, but toxic patriarchy and all prevents them to make threads about mtdna's, achieve their dreams and so on.

[Pandit]

Who’s we? Indians don’t speak for anyone but themselves.

We as real males. Of course Cuckry of Pinkmen is famous all over world thus I didn't count you guys when I said we men.

[Pandit]

Historically not always true, not even in India. Plenty of groups, particularly in south-central and southeast Asia that go matrilineally. However, it's definitely not true today. If a white man has a kid with a black woman, the child is black. YDNA is irrelevant there. It's also true for most of Europe. A double-digit integer percentage of nearly every ethnic group doesn't have the mainstream YDNA of that group, but yet is part of it, because identity is a lot more fluid than you're intimating.

Imagine if your dad had been French and your mum, Indian. You'd still be seen as Indian by most people in Canada and the US, because that's how whiteness works.

Those groups are not even 1% of India. In Asia identity and tribes pass from Father to son that's why I am a Brahmin despite having a Canadian mother.

And I don't give adamn about whitenss, I am something more better and brighter than "white people" same for my blood and ancestry.

[Longbowman]

Those groups are not even 1% of India. In Asia identity and tribes pass from Father to son that's why I am a Brahmin despite having a Canadian mother.

And I don't give adamn about whitenss, I am something more better and brighter than "white people" same for my blood and ancestry.

My point was that the rule is not universal, as you implied it was. Even in otherwise patriarchal or formerly patriarchal societies, racialism has totally undermined the idea of pure, direct, patrilineal inheritance.

[Pandit]

My point was that the rule is not universal, as you implied it was. Even in otherwise patriarchal or formerly patriarchal societies, racialism has totally undermined the idea of pure, direct, patrilineal inheritance.

Dude you are a Jew, you guys not only control the Europe whole but on individual level you guys rule over white people as well.

Look at you for an example, "you" are originally from middle East but today you are controlling A forum Made for preservation of European race, culture, languages and ethnicities.

Nothing wrong with that, only strongest rules in real world. I believe you as a Jew is smart enough to know what I am and was talking about.

[J. Ketch]

We as real males. Of course Cuckry of Pinkmen is famous all over world thus I didn't count you guys when I said we men.
I see now you’re some kind of mongrel with a superiority complex living in Canada. You only identify as Indian because you could never be accepted as white. An angry little brown wog in a white man’s world.

[Ayetooey]

Because MTDNA is broad as fuck and doesn't give much recent migration indication compared to Y dna, and isn't connected to surname or family origin in the same way as a Y dna, it's just a long line of women who all married into different families etc. It's also a smaller part of your dna; and as a dude I can't pass it on anyway. Mine is some Anatolian farmer one and not that common in Europe.

[Adam Janossy]

I am most likely related with Chevalier de Bayard, he belongs to H10e just like me and it is very rare H subclade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Terrail,_seigneur_de_Bayard

Most certanly Bell Beaker in origin. Got ancient samples from Portugal, Saxony, Bavaria, and interestingly, medieval sample from North Croatia on Hungarian border.
Today it's most common in Scandinavia and British Isles and on TA one German-American and one Hungarian user (with German ancestry) have it too :)

My direct maternal line is German, but other than mtDNA I didn't inherit much NW European autosomal DNA, close to zero.

[Joso]

i wonder it too

[Ayetooey]

i wonder it too

Y dna is so much more important. I take great pride in my proto slavic E-v13.

[Joso]

Y dna is so much more important. I take great pride in my proto slavic E-v13.

Which peoples are EV-13

[Ayetooey]

Which peoples are EV-13

Myself. It is the Y dna of ancient royalty of the grand Bosnian Kingdom, who settled in Sandzak. It was also carried by Illyrians, and north Illyrians (proto Slavs). Also found in Somalia.

[Longbowman]

Y dna is so much more important. I take great pride in my proto slavic E-v13.

you must be joking. EV13 is not proto-slavic.

[Figaro]

you must be joking. EV13 is not proto-slavic.

If EV13 is Proto-Slavic, than R-M417 is Proto-Uralic. :033102to:

[Voskos]

Thats just on apricity and the anthrotard universe. Real studies use it quite often.

[MiloshN]

E-V13 badass haplogroup...

[Pandit]

I see now you’re some kind of mongrel with a superiority complex living in Canada. You only identify as Indian because you could never be accepted as white. An angry little brown wog in a white man’s world.

1) whites are famous for being cuckolds all over world. No one respects weak people like you.

2) I am a Brahmin, my ethno-religious identity is brahmin. We are neither white nor Indian but Brahmin. I wear sacred thread of Brahminism and study Veda.

3) with my blue eyes and brown hair I can pass as white and identify as well if I want to, I don't need to larp as anything because I am more purer than average English inbred born out of rapes of German, French and Nordic Native Iberian Mothers as bastards.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

1) whites are famous for being cuckolds all over world. No one respects weak people like you.

2) I am a Brahmin, my ethno-religious identity is brahmin. We are neither white nor Indian but Brahmin. I wear sacred thread of Brahminism and study Veda.

3) with my blue eyes and brown hair I can pass as white and identify as well if I want to, I don't need to larp as anything because I am more purer than average English inbred born out of rapes of German, French and Nordic Native Iberian Mothers as bastards.

why do you pretend to be half white though ? DNA results dude

[Ayetooey]

1) whites are famous for being cuckolds all over world. No one respects weak people like you.

2) I am a Brahmin, my ethno-religious identity is brahmin. We are neither white nor Indian but Brahmin. I wear sacred thread of Brahminism and study Veda.

3) with my blue eyes and brown hair I can pass as white and identify as well if I want to, I don't need to larp as anything because I am more purer than average English inbred born out of rapes of German, French and Nordic Native Iberian Mothers as bastards.

You're just a confused wog. If you were that proud of being an alleged Brahmin, you'd be on a Brahmin forum speaking with your bros; but you're here sucking up to the White people you supposedly despise so much, trying to associate yourself with Caucasians cos of "hurp durrpp myy ayranz r1a". You're self projecting and coping, because the only person who got cucked is your mother, and you're the child of a cuck and you hate yourself.

Keep on coping you mentally ill try hard.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

You're just a confused wog. If you were that proud of being an alleged Brahmin, you'd be on a Brahmin forum speaking with your bros; but you're here sucking up to the White people you supposedly despise so much, trying to associate yourself with Caucasians cos of "hurp durrpp myy ayranz r1a". You're self projecting and coping, because the only person who got cucked is your mother, and you're the child of a cuck and you hate yourself.

Keep on coping you mentally ill try hard.

Mate, he obviously made DNA test but failed to show his results so I pretty much doubt his mother is European.

[Leto]

why do you pretend to be half white though ? DNA results dude
Yes, as a REAL Indo-European I demand that he provide proof for his supposed Aryanness - DNA results and a photo (muh blue eyes and pale skin). Otherwise even fucking Mortimer is more Aryan than him :cool:

[Leto]

You're just a confused wog. If you were that proud of being an alleged Brahmin, you'd be on a Brahmin forum speaking with your bros; but you're here sucking up to the White people you supposedly despise so much, trying to associate yourself with Caucasians cos of "hurp durrpp myy ayranz r1a". You're self projecting and coping, because the only person who got cucked is your mother, and you're the child of a cuck and you hate yourself.

Keep on coping you mentally ill try hard.
Yeah, that's why I detest women who fuck with blacks and browns and then raise their offspring as single mothers. Such kids tend to grow up confused and resentful towards the world around them. Of course - hashtag #NotAll but it's a common thing to see.

[Longbowman]

Yes, as a REAL Indo-European I demand that he provide proof for his supposed Aryanness - DNA results and a photo (muh blue eyes and pale skin). Otherwise even fucking Mortimer is more Aryan than him :cool:

Both these people are 100% Aryan, Indian + non-Hungarian European.

[Bellbeaking]

1) whites are famous for being cuckolds all over world. No one respects weak people like you.

2) I am a Brahmin, my ethno-religious identity is brahmin. We are neither white nor Indian but Brahmin. I wear sacred thread of Brahminism and study Veda.

3) with my blue eyes and brown hair I can pass as white and identify as well if I want to, I don't need to larp as anything because I am more purer than average English inbred born out of rapes of German, French and Nordic Native Iberian Mothers as bastards.

the brits don't have much iberian farmer they mostly died or got replaced by steppebeakers. and they where likely assimilated as they contributed equal on the autsomal and y chromo.