How much Slavic DNA do I have? (approximately)

[andre]

In your opinion, in percentage terms, how much DNA due to the Slav invasions of the Balkans do I have?

23andme results:
Balkan 77.7%
italian 2.5%
Broadly southern european 1.1%
eastern europe 15.9% (Podkarpackie, Poland i don't know why?!)
Ashkenazi 1.4%
Broadly european 1.4%

K36 results:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.78 Pct
Armenian 1.46 Pct
Basque 4.00 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.12 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.22 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.07 Pct
East_Med 5.28 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.23 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.60 Pct
French -
Iberian 3.44 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.20 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.74 Pct
North_African 0.42 Pct
North_Atlantic 5.35 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.59 Pct
North_Sea 3.43 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.69 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.91 Pct
West_Med 3.45 Pct

K10 steppe results:
39.47% near eastern
0.00% east asian
0.90% siberian
0.41% oceanian
29.76% WHG-UHG
1.01% sub-saharan
5.76% Hindu kush
22.37% Steppe
amerindian 0.01%
0.32% southeast asian

My heritage results
Eastern Europe
45.4%
Balkan
27.3%
Greek and southern Italian
22.5%
Ashkenazic Jew
3.2%
Western Asia
1.6%

Ftdna results, ancient dna
Southeast Europe 55% East Europe 42% and <2% asia minor


14% Metal Age Invader
50% Farmer
36% Hunter-Gatherer
0% non-European

87234

My true ancestry:
Scythian + Roman (11.32)
Scythian + Gaul (16.42)
Gallia (18.47)
Roman (18.81)
Scythian (19.56)

[Bosniensis]

Nothing, you have some dna from scythians (Slavs and steppe people) who were mingling with Dacians even in ancient times.

[andre]

I think it's a little exaggerated to say that I have absolutely nothing Slavic. But I appreciate your opinion :)

[Pubiczar]

100% Slav

[xripkan]

In your opinion, in percentage terms, how much DNA due to the Slav invasions of the Balkans do I have?

23andme results:
Balkan 77.7%
italian 2.5%
Broadly southern european 1.1%
eastern europe 15.9% (Podkarpackie, Poland i don't know why?!)
Ashkenazi 1.4%
Broadly european 1.4%

K36 results:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.78 Pct
Armenian 1.46 Pct
Basque 4.00 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.12 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.22 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.07 Pct
East_Med 5.28 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.23 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.60 Pct
French -
Iberian 3.44 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.20 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.74 Pct
North_African 0.42 Pct
North_Atlantic 5.35 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.59 Pct
North_Sea 3.43 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.69 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.91 Pct
West_Med 3.45 Pct

K10 steppe results:
39.47% near eastern
0.00% east asian
0.90% siberian
0.41% oceanian
29.76% WHG-UHG
1.01% sub-saharan
5.76% Hindu kush
22.37% Steppe
amerindian 0.01%
0.32% southeast asian

My heritage results
Eastern Europe
45.4%
Balkan
27.3%
Greek and southern Italian
22.5%
Ashkenazic Jew
3.2%
Western Asia
1.6%

Ftdna results, ancient dna
Southeast Europe 55% East Europe 42% and <2% asia minor


14% Metal Age Invader
50% Farmer
36% Hunter-Gatherer
0% non-European

87234

My true ancestry:
Scythian + Roman (11.32)
Scythian + Gaul (16.42)
Gallia (18.47)
Roman (18.81)
Scythian (19.56)

Can you post your Eurogenes K15 and Dodecad K12b

[Adam Janossy]

40-50 % range I would say.

[andre]

Dodecad k12b
# Population Percent
1 North_European 35.59
2 Atlantic_Med 25.4
3 Caucasus 24.3
4 Southwest_Asian 8.12
5 Gedrosia 4.02
6 East_Asian 1.4
7 Northwest_African 0.66
8 Siberian 0.5

Eurogenes V2 k15

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.85
2 Atlantic 19.54
3 East_Med 15.41
4 North_Sea 11.24
5 Eastern_Euro 10.56
6 West_Asian 9.47
7 West_Med 8.79
8 Red_Sea 3.7
9 Siberian 0.37
10 Oceanian 0.06

[Zmey Gorynych]

It seems you have a little bit/not much. This result is in line with those of average southern romanians.

[xripkan]

Dodecad k12b
# Population Percent
1 North_European 35.59
2 Atlantic_Med 25.4
3 Caucasus 24.3
4 Southwest_Asian 8.12
5 Gedrosia 4.02
6 East_Asian 1.4
7 Northwest_African 0.66
8 Siberian 0.5

Eurogenes V2 k15

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.85
2 Atlantic 19.54
3 East_Med 15.41
4 North_Sea 11.24
5 Eastern_Euro 10.56
6 West_Asian 9.47
7 West_Med 8.79
8 Red_Sea 3.7
9 Siberian 0.37
10 Oceanian 0.06

It would be better to post your oracle too

[andre]

Eurogenes k15
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 8.438275
2 Romanian @ 8.822621
3 Serbian @ 11.023118
4 Croatian @ 13.432148
5 Moldavian @ 13.683574
6 Austrian @ 14.108269
7 Hungarian @ 16.301321
8 Greek @ 16.316856
9 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.827559
10 South_Polish @ 20.132790
11 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 20.260424
12 Tuscan @ 20.678339
13 East_German @ 21.085840
14 North_Italian @ 21.410778
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 21.466959
16 Ukrainian @ 21.503380
17 Italian_Abruzzo @ 21.769747
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 22.041143
19 Ashkenazi @ 22.502707
20 Polish @ 22.553396

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +50% South_Italian @ 5.553835


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.114497


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
1 Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.889858
2 Belorussian + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.928805
3 Bulgarian + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.031959
4 Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.042586
5 Greek + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.063171
6 Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.081805
7 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.114497
8 Belorussian + Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.122206
9 Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.128969
10 Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.175826
11 Lebanese_Muslim + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.179752
12 Estonian_Polish + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.180965
13 Bulgarian + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.187596
14 Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.188061
15 Belorussian + Belorussian + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.192705
16 Belorussian + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.203112
17 Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian @ 5.219573
18 Belorussian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.233706
19 Estonian_Polish + Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.245259
20 Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish + West_Sicilian @ 5.253244

Dodecad k12b
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanians_Behar @ 5.246495
2 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 6.476201
3 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 7.427885
4 Hungarians_Behar @ 16.129219
5 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.779400
6 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 20.098551
7 Greek_Dodecad @ 20.536102
8 TSI30_Metspalu @ 21.584925
9 German_Dodecad @ 21.943390
10 Tuscan_HGDP @ 21.966099
11 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 22.305607
12 North_Italian_HGDP @ 23.266930
13 French_Dodecad @ 25.651709
14 French_HGDP @ 25.788628
15 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 25.895351
16 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 27.511971
17 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.588364
18 Dutch_Dodecad @ 27.599207
19 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 27.599562
20 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.618488

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish_Dodecad +50% S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.895264


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi_Dodecad +25% German_Dodecad +25% Russian_Dodecad @ 2.334482


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.738252
2 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.760588
3 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.773352
4 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.818058
5 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.822661
6 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.834060
7 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.842095
8 Cypriots_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + N_Italian_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.845708
9 German_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.860553
10 Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.886294
11 Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.887005
12 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.895876
13 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 1.897803
14 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Russian_B_Behar + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.920126
15 Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Romanians_Behar + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.920942
16 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Swedish_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.945576
17 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.947141
18 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Druze_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.953854
19 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.957928
20 Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.958309

[Adam Janossy]

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +50% South_Italian @ 5.553835

You see, I was close. Belarusians are pure Balto-Slavs, and if you can be modeled half Belarusian your Slavic input is similar to that.

[andre]

so why does 23andme (it seems to me very reliable) identify me only 15% eastern europe?

[xripkan]

Eurogenes k15
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 8.438275
2 Romanian @ 8.822621
3 Serbian @ 11.023118
4 Croatian @ 13.432148
5 Moldavian @ 13.683574
6 Austrian @ 14.108269
7 Hungarian @ 16.301321
8 Greek @ 16.316856
9 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.827559
10 South_Polish @ 20.132790
11 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 20.260424
12 Tuscan @ 20.678339
13 East_German @ 21.085840
14 North_Italian @ 21.410778
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 21.466959
16 Ukrainian @ 21.503380
17 Italian_Abruzzo @ 21.769747
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 22.041143
19 Ashkenazi @ 22.502707
20 Polish @ 22.553396

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +50% South_Italian @ 5.553835


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.114497


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
1 Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.889858
2 Belorussian + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.928805
3 Bulgarian + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.031959
4 Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.042586
5 Greek + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.063171
6 Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.081805
7 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.114497
8 Belorussian + Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.122206
9 Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.128969
10 Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.175826
11 Lebanese_Muslim + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.179752
12 Estonian_Polish + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.180965
13 Bulgarian + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.187596
14 Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.188061
15 Belorussian + Belorussian + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.192705
16 Belorussian + Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.203112
17 Greek + Russian_Smolensk + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian @ 5.219573
18 Belorussian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.233706
19 Estonian_Polish + Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.245259
20 Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk + Sephardic_Jewish + West_Sicilian @ 5.253244

Dodecad k12b
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanians_Behar @ 5.246495
2 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 6.476201
3 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 7.427885
4 Hungarians_Behar @ 16.129219
5 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.779400
6 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 20.098551
7 Greek_Dodecad @ 20.536102
8 TSI30_Metspalu @ 21.584925
9 German_Dodecad @ 21.943390
10 Tuscan_HGDP @ 21.966099
11 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 22.305607
12 North_Italian_HGDP @ 23.266930
13 French_Dodecad @ 25.651709
14 French_HGDP @ 25.788628
15 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 25.895351
16 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 27.511971
17 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.588364
18 Dutch_Dodecad @ 27.599207
19 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 27.599562
20 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.618488

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish_Dodecad +50% S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.895264


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi_Dodecad +25% German_Dodecad +25% Russian_Dodecad @ 2.334482


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.738252
2 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.760588
3 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.773352
4 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.818058
5 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.822661
6 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.834060
7 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.842095
8 Cypriots_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + N_Italian_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.845708
9 German_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.860553
10 Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.886294
11 Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.887005
12 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.895876
13 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 1.897803
14 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Russian_B_Behar + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.920126
15 Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Romanians_Behar + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.920942
16 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Swedish_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.945576
17 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.947141
18 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Cataluna_1000Genomes + Druze_HGDP + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.953854
19 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.957928
20 Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.958309

In my opinion most of your ancestry is from ancient Peoples of Northern Balklans and Central-East Europe (Dacians and Pannonias mostly) but you also have a significant Slavic input in my opinion (maybe 35-40%)

[Adam Janossy]

so why does 23andme (it seems to me very reliable) identify me only 15% eastern europe?

Because 23and me tells you geographical, not genetical ancestry.

[xripkan]

You see, I was close. Belarusians are pure Balto-Slavs, and if you can be modeled half Belarusian your Slavic input is similar to that.

He is modeled as 50% South Italian and 50% Belarussian. If we think that Dacias and Pannonians were more northern shifted than modern South Italians then his Slavic input is less.

[xripkan]

so why does 23andme (it seems to me very reliable) identify me only 15% eastern europe?

Balkan includes a significant Slavic input as well.

[Adam Janossy]

He is modeled as 50% South Italian and 50% Belarussian. If we think that Dacias and Pannonians were more northern shifted than modern South Italians then his Slavic input is less.

True, but probably not much. Your estimate is good too !

[andre]

Do you say that my haplogroup (I-cts10057) is due to the Slavs? or as Eupedia says it is probably due to the Goths?

[Bosniensis]

Do you say that my haplogroup (I-cts10057) is due to the Slavs? or as Eupedia says it is probably due to the Goths?

Slavs are R1a

Balkan people are I2

I2 in Eastern Europe and Central Europe came from Balkans.

Your ancestors mixed with Slavic peoples at some point and you carry some of their autosomal.

[Cumansky]

I get Podkarpackie Poland, Iaşi Romania, etc with 23andme

[Papastratosels26]

0%

[Cumansky]

Post MDLP K23b, just the calculator, I tell you how much Slavic

[xripkan]

Post MDLP K23b, just the calculator, I tell you how much Slavic

Which components are coonected with Slavic ancestry?

[Cumansky]

Which components are coonected with Slavic ancestry?

Some of WHG + CHG + ANE

[xripkan]

Some of WHG + CHG + ANE

So how would you estimate the Slavic input at these results?
Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.22
2 European_Early_Farmers 24.27
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 19.03
4 Near_East 8.28
5 South_Central_Asian 3.82
6 North_African 2.98
7 South_Indian 0.86
8 East_Siberian 0.82
9 Melano_Polynesian 0.72
10 Arctic 0.7
11 Australoid 0.5
12 Tungus-Altaic 0.45
13 Subsaharian 0.18
14 Archaic_Human 0.16

Maybe 15-18%?

[Cumansky]

So how would you estimate the Slavic input at these results?
Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.22
2 European_Early_Farmers 24.27
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 19.03
4 Near_East 8.28
5 South_Central_Asian 3.82
6 North_African 2.98
7 South_Indian 0.86
8 East_Siberian 0.82
9 Melano_Polynesian 0.72
10 Arctic 0.7
11 Australoid 0.5
12 Tungus-Altaic 0.45
13 Subsaharian 0.18
14 Archaic_Human 0.16

Maybe 15-18%?

Your Greek? European Hunter Gatherers is probably from Slavs settlement mostly 19.03% + some Caucasian and you don't have the Ancestral Altaic either.

Probably 15-35% Northeast European.

[xripkan]

Your Greek? European Hunter Gatherers is probably from Slavs settlement mostly 19.03% + some Caucasian and you don't have the Ancestral Altaic either.

Probably 15-35% Northeast European.

Yes, this is my population oracle
Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 3.11
2 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 3.24
3 Kosovar ( ) 3.5
4 Greek_Northwest ( ) 3.55
5 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 3.92
6 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 4.1
7 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 4.2
8 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 5.11
9 Ashkenazi ( ) 5.4
10 Sicilian_East ( ) 6.4
11 Central_Greek ( ) 6.4
12 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 6.87
13 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.92
14 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 7
15 French_Jew ( ) 7.21
16 Bulgarian ( ) 7.3
17 Romanian_Jew ( ) 7.39
18 Macedonian ( ) 7.51
19 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 7.74
20 Maltese ( ) 7.97

Isn't it south-shifted for 35% Northeast European?

[andre]

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 33.39
2 Caucasian 31.67
3 European_Early_Farmers 15.77
4 Near_East 7.73
5 South_Central_Asian 4.32
6 North_African 2.85
7 Australoid 1.21
8 Subsaharian 0.91
9 Khoisan 0.83
10 East_Siberian 0.49
11 Amerindian 0.44
12 Austronesian 0.38

[Cumansky]

Yes, this is my population oracle
Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 3.11
2 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 3.24
3 Kosovar ( ) 3.5
4 Greek_Northwest ( ) 3.55
5 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 3.92
6 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 4.1
7 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 4.2
8 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 5.11
9 Ashkenazi ( ) 5.4
10 Sicilian_East ( ) 6.4
11 Central_Greek ( ) 6.4
12 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 6.87
13 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.92
14 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 7
15 French_Jew ( ) 7.21
16 Bulgarian ( ) 7.3
17 Romanian_Jew ( ) 7.39
18 Macedonian ( ) 7.51
19 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 7.74
20 Maltese ( ) 7.97

Isn't it south-shifted for 35% Northeast European?

Post only calculator Eurogenes K12b, Gedrosia K12

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Do you say that my haplogroup (I-cts10057) is due to the Slavs? or as Eupedia says it is probably due to the Goths?

Looks like Germanic type of I2 bruv.

[Cumansky]

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 33.39
2 Caucasian 31.67
3 European_Early_Farmers 15.77
4 Near_East 7.73
5 South_Central_Asian 4.32
6 North_African 2.85
7 Australoid 1.21
8 Subsaharian 0.91
9 Khoisan 0.83
10 East_Siberian 0.49
11 Amerindian 0.44
12 Austronesian 0.38

Post also only calculator, Eurogenes K12b, Gedrosia K12

[xripkan]

Post only calculator Eurogenes K12b, Gedrosia K12
Eurogenes K12b
Population
Western European 15.56 Pct
Siberian 1.09 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 2.59 Pct
South Asian 1.69 Pct
West African -
Caucasus 20.84 Pct
Finnish 1.81 Pct
Mediterranean 28.13 Pct
Southwest Asian 11.04 Pct
North European 16.87 Pct
East Asian 0.36 Pct

Gedrosia K12
Population
S_INDIAN 1.37 Pct
SUB_SAHARAN 0.46 Pct
EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 34.98 Pct
SW_ASIAN 14.38 Pct
W_SIBERIAN 0.50 Pct
SE_ASIAN 0.79 Pct
BALOCHI 3.52 Pct
SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 19.89 Pct
INDO_TIBETAN -
CAUCASUS 23.74 Pct
E_AFRICAN -
E_SIBERIAN 0.33 Pct

[andre]

Post also only calculator, Eurogenes K12b, Gedrosia K12

Eurogenes k12b
Population
Western European 17.86 Pct
Siberian 1.05 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 1.85 Pct
South Asian -
West African -
Caucasus 14.44 Pct
Finnish 5.44 Pct
Mediterranean 20.22 Pct
Southwest Asian 8.87 Pct
North European 29.39 Pct
East Asian 0.88 Pct

Gedrosia k12

# Population Percent
1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 32.14
2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 31.76
3 CAUCASUS 19.24
4 SW_ASIAN 11.91
5 BALOCHI 2.12
6 W_SIBERIAN 0.77
7 SUB_SAHARAN 0.71
8 E_AFRICAN 0.7
9 E_SIBERIAN 0.47
10 SE_ASIAN 0.19

[Cumansky]

Eurogenes K12b
Population
Western European 15.56 Pct
Siberian 1.09 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 2.59 Pct
South Asian 1.69 Pct
West African -
Caucasus 20.84 Pct
Finnish 1.81 Pct
Mediterranean 28.13 Pct
Southwest Asian 11.04 Pct
North European 16.87 Pct
East Asian 0.36 Pct

Gedrosia K12
Population
S_INDIAN 1.37 Pct
SUB_SAHARAN 0.46 Pct
EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 34.98 Pct
SW_ASIAN 14.38 Pct
W_SIBERIAN 0.50 Pct
SE_ASIAN 0.79 Pct
BALOCHI 3.52 Pct
SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 19.89 Pct
INDO_TIBETAN -
CAUCASUS 23.74 Pct
E_AFRICAN -
E_SIBERIAN 0.33 Pct

Ok, you about 16-20% Slavic + 15% Unknown Northern European.

In total around 31-36% Northeast European just as I guess.

[Cumansky]

Eurogenes k12b
Population
Western European 17.86 Pct
Siberian 1.05 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 1.85 Pct
South Asian -
West African -
Caucasus 14.44 Pct
Finnish 5.44 Pct
Mediterranean 20.22 Pct
Southwest Asian 8.87 Pct
North European 29.39 Pct
East Asian 0.88 Pct

Gedrosia k12

# Population Percent
1 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 32.14
2 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 31.76
3 CAUCASUS 19.24
4 SW_ASIAN 11.91
5 BALOCHI 2.12
6 W_SIBERIAN 0.77
7 SUB_SAHARAN 0.71
8 E_AFRICAN 0.7
9 E_SIBERIAN 0.47
10 SE_ASIAN 0.19

29-32% Slavic + 17-18% Unknown Northern European

45-50% Northeast European

[xripkan]

Ok, you about 16-20% Slavic + 15% Unknown Northern European.

In total around 31-36% Northeast European just as I guess.

Could the uknown 15% be from Thacians or even Scytho-Sarmatians? Or it could also be the Greek Indo-European part?

[Cumansky]

Could the uknown 15% be from Thacians or even Scytho-Sarmatians? Or it could also be the Greek Indo-European part?

Honestly that can be impossible to answer. But you are in the right track.

[andre]

29-32% Slavic + 17-18% Unknown Northern European

45-50% Northeast European

do you think there is something Germanic about my DNA?

[xripkan]

Do you say that my haplogroup (I-cts10057) is due to the Slavs? or as Eupedia says it is probably due to the Goths?

I have one match at my 23andme relatives who has the same haplogroup with you. This is his results

British & Irish
65.2%
Scandinavian
12.4%
French & German
5.6%
Eastern European
0.8%
Spanish & Portuguese
0.2%
Greek & Balkan
0.0%
Italian
0.0%
Broadly Northwestern European
14.9%
Broadly Southern European
0.0%
Broadly European
0.9%

[someonenotyou]

Post also only calculator, Eurogenes K12b, Gedrosia K12

What about me out of curiosity.

Eurogenes K12b
Population
Western European 30.09 Pct
Siberian 1.07 Pct
East African -
West Central Asian 6.53 Pct
South Asian 0.06 Pct
West African 0.11 Pct
Caucasus 9.10 Pct
Finnish 4.14 Pct
Mediterranean 19.11 Pct
Southwest Asian 1.94 Pct
North European 27.86 Pct
East Asian -

Gedrosia K12
Population
S_INDIAN -
SUB_SAHARAN -
EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 32.87 Pct
SW_ASIAN 9.43 Pct
W_SIBERIAN 0.34 Pct
SE_ASIAN -
BALOCHI 2.44 Pct
SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 33.39 Pct
INDO_TIBETAN 0.74 Pct
CAUCASUS 20.80 Pct
E_AFRICAN -
E_SIBERIAN -