It's interesting how Scandinavia and Balkans preserved the I linage

[AphroditeWorshiper]

Both of these regions was important for the Indo European spread to all Europe, and flooded by Steppe invaders

https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/indo-european-uralic-bell-beaker-corded-ware-migrations-1100x469.jpg

[Bellbeaking]

Indeed, extremely interesting. Also interesting that they are WHG haplos predominant in some neolithic groups. Also interesting that Native I is also present in Scotland :)

[Dick]

Indeed, extremely interesting. Also interesting that they are WHG haplos predominant in some neolithic groups. Also interesting that Native I is also present in Scotland :)

Hunter-gatherers and early farmers were already mixing before indo-Europeans. Here is a EEF+WHG Sardinian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4bxM1vVRlYk/Uc3BFGd6C_I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/AEXiR2m0qX8/s524/sardinians%20sardinian%20people%20(32).jpg

[Mens-Sarda]

Indeed, extremely interesting. Also interesting that they are WHG haplos predominant in some neolithic groups. Also interesting that Native I is also present in Scotland :)

About 40-45% of Sardinians have I haplogroup!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OfLZg3AnzvY/UKlpGTXkXAI/AAAAAAAAABs/zXrBh_TALP0/s640/Haplogroup_I.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/1f/7c/391f7c212f30c92006c5067d3f60bde7.gif

https://novi.ba/storage/2016/02/23/thumbs/56cc4955-2000-40a3-b763-56430a0a0a6c-mapa-eupedia-690x480.gif

[Ülev]

Sardinians have noble subclade
https://i2a1tree.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/20131213-131545.jpg
https://i2a1tree.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/m26-distribution-map/

[Mens-Sarda]

It's interesting to note that besides the genetic similarities of the two areas, there are also ancient linguistic connections. In current Sardinian language and placenames there are still many traces of a pre-IE substratum related to Basque!

https://indo-european.eu/2019/03/ancient-sardinia-hints-at-mesolithic-spread-of-r1b-v88-and-western-eef-related-expansion-of-vasconic/

[Dick]

It's interesting to note that besides the genetic similarities of the two areas, there are also ancient linguistic connections. In current Sardinian language and placenames there are still many traces of a pre-IE substratum related to Basque!

https://indo-european.eu/2019/03/ancient-sardinia-hints-at-mesolithic-spread-of-r1b-v88-and-western-eef-related-expansion-of-vasconic/

So a hybrid of both EEF+WHG languages

[AphroditeWorshiper]

It's interesting to note that besides the genetic similarities of the two areas, there are also ancient linguistic connections. In current Sardinian language and placenames there are still many traces of a pre-IE substratum related to Basque!

https://indo-european.eu/2019/03/ancient-sardinia-hints-at-mesolithic-spread-of-r1b-v88-and-western-eef-related-expansion-of-vasconic/

I believe in an Basque/Iberian/Nuragic/Lusitanian/Ligurian/Rhaetian/Etruscan/Pelasgian conexion!

[Mens-Sarda]

It's possible, the ancient Sea Peoples were probably connected with the Minoan world, the Shardana were even hired as mercenaries by ancient Egyptians.

[dududud]

It's possible, the ancient Sea Peoples were probably connected with the Minoan world, the Shardana were even hired as mercenaries by ancient Egyptians.

A theory, for the moment: we have no samples from "sherdens" or "people of the sea", and if one day we will harvest and we discover that they are genetically "Semitic" individuals (sardinians are not, they are?), then this theory would be abandoned: the sherdens or "sea people" would no longer be the "descendants of the Sardinians".

Some people say that they were Semitic peoples, others "Anatolian peoples" (Anatolians farmers? EEF?), but: we do not know because we do not have any DNA samples.

Having samples could confirm or deny the uncertain origin of the "peoples of the sea" or "sherdens". We can only make assumptions. Sadly.

[Mens-Sarda]

It's very improbable that the Sea Peoples were Semitic. We still don't have dna comparisons, but we can look at the archaelogical findings.

Ancient Egyptians depicted the Sherden or Shardan as warriors wearing horned helmets, using round shields and triangular swords

P.S.
We don't know the exact pronunciation, because Egyptians didn't write the vowels. Same thing for Phoenicians, they didn't write vowels, but when they arrived in Sardinia around 1000 b.C. they named the island "Shrdn", we could read : Sherdena, Shardana, Shardania and so on. This means that ancient Phoenicians since they were skilled sailors they surely knew very well who were the inhabitants of the island.


Sherden warriors from the temple of Medinet Habu (Egypt)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Relief_Sherden_Breasted_2.jpg/220px-Relief_Sherden_Breasted_2.jpg

These are bronze statuettes produced in Sardinia from 1500 to 800 b.C from the Nuragic civilization
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AxkafDBdIkA/UaJ6kREOcBI/AAAAAAAACi8/OUr6ZTNOO9E/s1600/25528b.jpg

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/vp/bd2302d174eff2d6291dfd4f9f3fbaf3/5D295CAD/t51.2885-15/e35/c0.135.1080.1080/s480x480/46348934_317242675549673_1746555775157130063_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram.com

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oXxnZmCoGiY/Ua7SNwlZkfI/AAAAAAAAI_E/qMN4wDkZXhk/s1600/guerrieri+museo.png

http://www.magicsardiniatour.it/Tour/Voci/2011/12/5_Voce_1_files/museo%20%28173%29x.jpg

These instead are the triangular swords found in Sardinia
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_a8pvThijnF4/S5-mIoBFRLI/AAAAAAAABGI/Dat3gwqjt3w/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Le+spade.jpg

http://www.cagliariartmagazine.it/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/48361979_2107599129305609_2475918066253299712_n.jp g

Nuragic broad swords
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_g2l9aqmE89Q/TSV7z1IRg2I/AAAAAAAABM8/iaLVtgDO6y4/s1600/foto%2B184.jpg

Nuragic daggers : (look it closely, it's the same kind of dagger that you can see in the last bronze statuette, there are many statuettes with this kind of dagger). Notice also the peculiar custom to keep the dagger sheated on the chest. The ancient Roman fonts tell an interesting fact. When the Romans reached Corsica for the first time, they noticed that the indigenous had the peculiar custom to keep the dagger on the chest (this means that they had the same customs of Sardinians). For this reason they labeled the island "insula Corsicae", from "Cor" (heart) + "Sicae" (genitive of Sica = dagger), so "insula Corsicae" (island of the dagger on the heart).

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_g2l9aqmE89Q/TSV8DWbLCII/AAAAAAAABNE/0L4dp4eiuOU/s1600/foto%2B194.jpg

Stele of Nora IXth century b.C, found in the ruins of Nora, one of the first Phoenician settlements along the coasts of southern Sardinia. On this tablet there is the first mention of the name of the island (Shrdn). On this stele it's also mentioned the famous city of Tarshish, in Spain, also mentioned in the Bible.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Stele_von_Nora_07.jpg/800px-Stele_von_Nora_07.jpg

https://sasartiglia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/anteprima-stele.jpg

(this is one of the translations proposed by many academics)

1 btršš - from Tarshish
2 wgrš h' - he was driven
3 bšrdn š - in Sardinia
4 lm h' šl - he found refuge
5 m sb' m - his army found refuge
6 lktn bn - Milkûtôn, son of
7 šbn ngd - Šûbôn, the commander.
8 lpmy - To Pmy

If the translation is correct, the Phoenicians apparently waged war against Tarshish and they were defeated, then they found shelter in Sardinia during their retreat. We know from the ancient fonts that the city of Tarshish few centuries later was actually defeated and erased from history by Carthage.

[Coastal Elite]

Hunter-gatherers and early farmers were already mixing before indo-Europeans. Here is a EEF+WHG Sardinian

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4bxM1vVRlYk/Uc3BFGd6C_I/AAAAAAAAAEQ/AEXiR2m0qX8/s524/sardinians%20sardinian%20people%20(32).jpg

She could be on the cover of a Marija Gimbutus book.

https://i.imgur.com/UwE7qLP.jpg