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Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:11 PM
I get many different results from all the DNA services and I have done them all.

K15
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 22.67
2 North_Sea 22.36
3 Baltic 14.82
4 West_Med 10.68
5 Eastern_Euro 9.29
6 East_Med 9.17
7 West_Asian 6.47
8 Red_Sea 1.46


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 6.327328
2 Serbian @ 8.401614
3 Hungarian @ 8.847657
4 East_German @ 9.483974
5 South_Dutch @ 11.016908
6 French @ 11.600854
7 Romanian @ 11.988601
8 Croatian @ 12.217412
9 West_German @ 12.969017
10 Moldavian @ 13.561717
11 North_German @ 14.458554
12 Bulgarian @ 15.139602
13 Spanish_Cataluna @ 15.898345
14 Spanish_Galicia @ 15.934028
15 Portuguese @ 16.500834
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 16.863125
17 North_Italian @ 16.962196
18 Southwest_English @ 17.253548
19 Southeast_English @ 17.624428
20 Spanish_Extremadura @ 17.828869

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% North_German @ 2.749091


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Irish @ 1.643950


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Austrian + Croatian + Irish + Tuscan @ 1.587039
2 Danish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.625656
3 Austrian + Austrian + Greek_Thessaly + Irish @ 1.643950
4 Irish + Russian_Smolensk + South_Dutch + South_Italian @ 1.684981
5 Danish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.686507
6 Austrian + Hungarian + North_German + Tuscan @ 1.697783
7 Austrian + Croatian + Tuscan + West_Scottish @ 1.723591
8 Croatian + East_German + Irish + West_Sicilian @ 1.733777
9 French + North_German + Russian_Smolensk + West_Sicilian @ 1.735022
10 Irish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.761256
11 Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + North_German + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.773283
12 Danish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.773555
13 Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + North_Dutch + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.794286
14 Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 1.797032
15 Austrian + Austrian + Greek_Thessaly + Southeast_English @ 1.807106
16 Estonian + Italian_Abruzzo + North_German + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.808915
17 Russian_Smolensk + South_Dutch + South_Italian + Southeast_English @ 1.809341
18 Estonian_Polish + Irish + South_Dutch + South_Italian @ 1.809370
19 Estonian_Polish + South_Dutch + South_Italian + Southeast_English @ 1.817999
20 Italian_Abruzzo + Lithuanian + North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.823251

Dodecad 12b

# Population Percent
1 North_European 39.38
2 Atlantic_Med 31.04
3 Caucasus 15.45
4 Gedrosia 6.13
5 Southwest_Asian 4.67
6 Northwest_African 1.70
7 South_Asian 1.01


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarians_Behar @ 10.425589
2 German_Dodecad @ 11.321453
3 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 14.244255
4 Romanians_Behar @ 15.332175
5 French_Dodecad @ 15.399830
6 French_HGDP @ 15.778927
7 Dutch_Dodecad @ 15.884950
8 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 17.385725
9 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 17.738991
10 Kent_1000Genomes @ 17.917990
11 CEU30_1000Genomes @ 18.153282
12 English_Dodecad @ 18.336184
13 British_Isles_Dodecad @ 19.604282
14 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 20.132050
15 Cornwall_1000Genomes @ 20.236168
16 British_Dodecad @ 20.582041
17 Argyll_1000Genomes @ 20.868839
18 Orkney_1000Genomes @ 21.500055
19 Irish_Dodecad @ 21.506166
20 Orcadian_HGDP @ 21.615677

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% O_Italian_Dodecad +50% Swedish_Dodecad @ 2.919172


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU30_1000Genomes +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +25% Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.088795


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 British_Isles_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.913991
2 British_Isles_Dodecad + Dutch_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.948748
3 CEU30_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.964463
4 Dutch_Dodecad + English_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 0.974589
5 Dutch_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.000983
6 French_Dodecad + Orkney_1000Genomes + Russian_B_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.023266
7 Argyll_1000Genomes + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + French_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.045892
8 British_Isles_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.061165
9 French_HGDP + Orkney_1000Genomes + Russian_B_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.069419
10 CEU30_1000Genomes + CEU30_1000Genomes + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.088795
11 Argyll_1000Genomes + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + French_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.097977
12 Kent_1000Genomes + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.101161
13 CEU30_1000Genomes + English_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.107854
14 Dutch_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.113734
15 CEU30_1000Genomes + Kent_1000Genomes + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.115367
16 Argyll_1000Genomes + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + French_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad @ 1.116124
17 English_Dodecad + Kent_1000Genomes + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.138466
18 Cornwall_1000Genomes + Dutch_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.145922
19 English_Dodecad + English_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 1.163771
20 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.167097

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 12:27 PM
What is your actual background specifically by ethnicitys.

Do you have a Hungarian ancestor ?

Bosniensis
04-22-2019, 12:27 PM
You are blessed with Serbian blood.

TheMaestro
04-22-2019, 12:29 PM
You are blessed with Serbian blood.

Vlach Italian.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:29 PM
What is your actual background specifically by ethnicitys.

What I do know as far as family is English, Irish, German, and Italian. Here's the deal. In these tests I get East Euro and French. My Y is R1a1a. My cousins when they test they do not score any Slavic or French.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 12:31 PM
Post K13

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:31 PM
Here is my IBD overview. I will provide part of it. You can see a strong Slavic presence esp North Russian.

AAB_Anglo_Saxon_NO3423 19.48398
AAB_Sintashta_RISE395 16.164902
English_Kent_HG00158 14.367849
Polish_Polish16H 13.563032
English_Kent_HG00136 12.760677
Sicilian_East_EastSicilian3H 11.8423805
German_IL550_0192 11.722059
German_IL550_0204 11.670863
English_Cornwall_HG00265 11.529468
German_GS000016892 11.427855
AAB_Ireland_EBA_Rathlin1_RM127 11.362549
Utah_USA_NA12045 11.15444104
Norwegian_NOR119 11.037497
Ingrian_GS000016897 10.868328
Croatian_GS000015871 10.8453271
English_Kent_HG00159 10.731073
Finnish_GS000016895 10.5544599
AAB_Nordic_LN_RISE98 10.396912
Ukrainian_West_UkrLv228 10.393318
Orcadian_HG00107 10.355472
Ukrainian_North_Ukraine141 10.3141515
Serbian_Bosnia_Serbian_B-H11_GSM1424666 10.2239582
AAB_Unetice_RISE150 10.212964
Ukrainian_East_UkrBel614 10.036635
Utah_German_NA12057 9.913035
Belarusian_belorus7 9.815257
Vepsa_GS000016971 9.566861
Latvian_GS000035027 9.539401
Polish_Polish13H 9.479041
Bulgarian_Bulgarian15H 9.388864
German_IL550_0391 9.289345
French_HGDP00519 9.277828
German_IL550_0133 9.0737346
Finnish_GS000018756 9.02088
Russian_North_HGDP00880 8.931932
Montenegrin_Montenegro4_GSM1424637 8.880315
German_GS000016893 8.842881
Saami_GS000035024 8.841275
Ukrainian_East_GS000035176 8.735819
Utah_Scandinavian_NA11829 8.668876
Ukrainian_East_GS000035121 8.6328089
Slovenian_Slovenian321 8.4814716
Finnish_GS000016894 8.4297409
Slovakian_Slovakia118 8.41347
Cossack_Kuban_GS000016186 8.407539
Russian_North_HGDP00888 8.385822
Russian_North_HGDP00886 8.24023
Utah_USA_NA12341 8.18311
English_Cornwall_HG00261 8.142136
German_IL550_0367 8.111112
English_Cornwall_HG00262 8.04419
Karelian_GS000016970 8.025878
Spanish_Cataluna_HG01536 7.919741
Orcadian_HGDP00802 7.902739
French_HGDP00534 7.7881298
Estonian_ee59 7.769276
Russian_North_HGDP00885 7.767556
English_Cornwall_HG00251 7.761856
Orcadian_HG00122 7.732638
Croatian_GSM1841120 7.7085598
Serbian_Serbian_Serbia6_GSM1424680 7.69554
Russian_North_HGDP00898 7.687647
Mordovian_GS000013698 7.684275
Croatian_GSM1841121 7.661545
German_IL550_0433 7.629471
Russian_North_HGDP00899 7.589165
German_IL550_0445 7.582084
English_Kent_HG00129 7.492525
English_Cornwall_HG00250 7.483821
English_Cornwall_HG00245 7.436681
Hungarian_hungary8 7.383453
Irish_IRL006 7.377678
Montenegrin_Montenegro5_GSM1424638 7.363673
AAB_Mezhovskaya_RISE523 7.3609616
Bosnian_Bosnian_14_GSM1424655 7.3565848
Utah_USA_NA12383 7.256356
Slovenian_Slovenian299 7.224247
Ukrainian_West_UkrLv226 7.213755
Belarusian_GS000016104 7.199316
English_Kent_HG00126 7.161614
Norwegian_NOR111 7.151616
Russian_Northwest_evo_2 7.139177
Mozabite_HGDP01275 7.108555
Russian_North_GS000013756 7.08604982
Ukrainian_North_Ukraine133 7.055681
Estonian_GS000017199 6.965786
Khanty_GS000016906 6.939065
AAB_Nordic_IA_RISE174 6.89061
Serbian_Serbia_Serbia19_GSM1424665 6.866246
Estonian_ee1 6.770008
AAB_Ireland_EBA_Rathlin2_RSK1 6.760027
Spanish_Aragon_HG01676 6.716239
Lithuanian_lithuania7 6.693315
Irish_IRL001 6.681312
Russian_Central_GS000035242 6.671154
Serbian_Serbian_Serbia5_GSM1424679 6.659541
German_IL550_0461 6.620043
Spanish_Extremadura_HG01509 6.617981
Irish_IRL005 6.54784
Orcadian_HGDP00810 6.528422
Hungarian_hungary19 6.4651684
Belarusian_belorus8 6.463371
AAB_Andronovo_RISE500 6.429001
French_HGDP00511 6.413119
Hungarian_hungary9 6.35305
Bosnian_Bosnian_6_GSM1424662 6.351789
Finnish_HG00364 6.349876
Bosnian_Bosnian_12_GSM1424653 6.326796
Romanian_Romania16 6.3157799
Utah_USA_NA12264 6.314393
Mozabite_HGDP01279 6.29651
Polish_Polish7H 6.27854
Orcadian_HGDP00800 6.267154
Utah_German_NA07345 6.266461
Utah_Scandinavian_NA12347 6.225627
AAB_Karasuk_RISE496 6.192397
Polish_Polish11H 6.146041
Macedonian_Macedonian12_GSM1424614 6.110368
Belarusian_belorus4 6.1080659
English_Kent_HG00146 6.088209
Utah_British_NA12348 6.0595122
Saami_GS000035026 6.039583
Utah_USA_NA12234 6.02859
Spanish_Galicia_HG01704 5.969855
Bulgarian_Bulgaria39 5.9655728
Russian_Central_GS000016797 5.954777
Utah_USA_NA12748 5.931534
Russian_North_HGDP00887 5.926507
Utah_USA_NA12749 5.898368
Orcadian_HGDP00796 5.880476
AAB_Afanasievo_RISE511 5.86506
Ukrainian_North_GS000013755 5.837107
Sicilian_West_WestSicilian2H 5.825265
Spanish_Spain3 5.804552
English_Cornwall_HG00259 5.785663
Croatian_GSM1841122 5.7777366
English_Kent_HG00149 5.775977
Estonian_GS000017206 5.749024
Italian_Tuscan_NA20802 5.720599
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon_HG01784 5.720072
Estonian_ee140 5.708638
Armenian_arm18 5.642764
Russian_West_GS000016819 5.635631
Spanish_Cantabria_HG01513 5.5916891
Bashkir_GS000035032 5.57992
Mari_GS000015715 5.576645
Chuvash_Chuvash5 5.574531
Chuvash_Chuvash6 5.574046
Saami_GS000035025 5.5719971
Ukrainian_North_UkrainePol25 5.567726
Utah_USA_NA12342 5.564334
Chuvash_Chuvash8 5.551202
French_HGDP00531 5.541919
Utah_German_NA07022 5.522419
Russian_North_HGDP00896 5.48723
Serbian_Serbian_Serbia12_GSM1424673 5.46912
English_Kent_HG00128 5.465121
Italian_Tuscan_NA20529 5.4603955
Mordovian_GS000014330 5.458355
Polish_GS000015869 5.407757
Russian_North_HGDP00893 5.384989
Montenegrin_Montenegro1_GSM1424636 5.349145
Ukrainian_East_UkrBel736 5.344878
AAB_Karasuk_RISE499 5.314966
Dominican_GSM531157 5.2956
Estonian_GS000017210 5.282319
Croatian_GSM1841125 5.271873
Italian_Tuscan_NA20799 5.264869
German_IL550_0031 5.232845
Utah_Scandinavian_NA12003 5.218089
Slovenian_Slovenian137 5.193577
Spanish_Spain1 5.17424
English_Kent_HG00145 5.171236
Pathan_HGDP00216 5.152574
Spanish_Cantabria_HG01680 5.1416404
Tajik_Ishkasim_GS000016189 5.122579
Slovakian_Slovakia256 5.121789
English_Cornwall_HG00264 5.120518
Peruvian_HG01973 5.115615
Karelian_GS000035149 5.1149
Russian_North_HGDP00882 5.09359
Croatian_GSM1841116 5.08976
English_Kent_HG00130 5.081714
Slovakian_Slovakia425 5.0780624
Orcadian_HG00114 5.046427
Estonian_a39 5.04608
Ukrainian_West_GS000035177 5.041802
Greek_Greek6H 5.040983
Orcadian_HG00102 5.03341
Mordovian_mordovia10 5.03335
Italian_Tuscan_NA20772 5.0296924
Kosovar_Kosovo12_GSM1424631 5.02254
Latvian_latvian58C8 5.017757
Latvian_latvian22J5 4.996687
AAB_Yamnaya_Kalmykia_RISE552 4.981613
Spanish_Pais_Vasco_HG01515 4.9758584
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon_HG01612 4.973659
Bosnian_Bosnian_10_GSM1424651 4.962554
Utah_USA_NA12750 4.94521
Slovenian_Slovenian90 4.934478
English_Kent_HG00154 4.93255
Mordovian_mordovia13 4.92146066
Estonian_ee78 4.9135612
Slovenian_Slovenian275 4.910595
English_Cornwall_HG00252 4.896616
Belarusian_belorus5 4.89272
Latvian_latvian58C6 4.884538
German_IL550_0091 4.87534
Russian_North_HGDP00892 4.865875
Georgian_mg47 4.8580998
Italian_Tuscan_NA20796 4.85372
German_IL550_0399 4.8534
Kalash_HGDP00290 4.825524
French_HGDP00533 4.818736
Italian_Bergamo_HGDP01177 4.810575
Macedonian_Macedonian3_GSM1424622 4.8032354
Italian_Tuscan_NA20535 4.782758
Ukrainian_West_UkrLv240 4.782318
Norwegian_NOR146 4.74284
Greek_Greek8H 4.7381
Utah_USA_NA12043 4.729563
AAB_Iberia_EN_CB13 4.718556
Puerto_Rican_GSM531201 4.710677
Mozabite_HGDP01254 4.70809
English_Cornwall_HG00237 4.7072
Belarusian_GS000014324 4.70266
Mordovian_mordovia6 4.69843
Ukrainian_East_UkrBel618 4.696958
Utah_USA_NA11919 4.684856
Dominican_GSM531141 4.672293
Orcadian_HGDP00798 4.671886
Estonian_ee45 4.638389
Italian_Tuscan_HGDP01162 4.634653
Polish_Polish15H 4.631589
Hungarian_hungary20 4.600884
Russian_North_HGDP00890 4.59656
Macedonian_Macedonian19_GSM1424617 4.594199
Russian_North_HGDP00901 4.593058
Brahui_HGDP00037 4.57616
BedouinB_HGDP00650 4.57231
English_Kent_HG00137 4.569955
Italian_Bergamo_HGDP01155 4.566703
Orcadian_HG00096 4.563598
Utah_Scandinavian_NA12751 4.561095
Slovenian_Slovenian241 4.534218
Italian_Tuscan_NA20752 4.532742
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon_HG01506 4.529315
Russian_North_HGDP00903 4.528812
Slovenian_Slovenian188 4.527511
English_Cornwall_HG00258 4.509667
Basque_French_HGDP01379 4.508468
Mordovian_mordovia3 4.507585
English_Cornwall_HG00260 4.503909
Bulgarian_Bulgarian10H 4.4883219
Colombian_GSM531133 4.485284
Italian_South_SouthItalian6H 4.4711401
Bulgarian_Bulgarian13H 4.468168
AAB_Spain_LNCA_ATP2 4.465933
Estonian_GS000017209 4.4405454
AAB_Unetice_RISE577 4.44004
Cypriot_Cyprus1 4.439149
English_Cornwall_HG00263 4.426469
AAB_Portugal_LNCA_CabecoArruda122A 4.424385
Armenian_Chambarak_591320 4.41876
English_Kent_HG00150 4.403691
Chuvash_Chuvash4 4.388861
Italian_Tuscan_NA20517 4.380115
Spanish_Spanish17H 4.379927
Montenegrin_Montenegro11_GSM1424643 4.374341
Orcadian_HG00108 4.364735
Cossack_Ukrainian_GS000035239 4.3521907
Spanish_Spain2 4.342969
Lithuanian_lithuania1 4.331231
Italian_Tuscan_NA20774 4.328805
French_HGDP00520 4.325845
Ukrainian_East_UkrBel620 4.319737
Estonian_GS000017208 4.316687
Bulgarian_Bulgarian17H 4.312189
Turkish_tur306 4.306809
Palestinian_HGDP00730 4.296797
Ukrainian_North_Ukraine97 4.290427
Macedonian_Macedonian20_GSM1424619 4.286787
Russian_North_HGDP00889 4.272637
Kurdish_kurd1173 4.26242
Utah_USA_NA12145 4.2613
AAB_LaBrana1_LaBrana1 4.256572
Norwegian_NOR124 4.2432718
Italian_Tuscan_NA20809 4.24218
Spanish_Spain13 4.235122
Cossack_Kuban_GS000035179 4.218072
German_IL550_0421 4.215554
Spanish_Pais_Vasco_HG01516 4.20254
Russian_North_HGDP00879 4.19332
Romanian_Romania5 4.18818
Italian_Bergamo_HGDP01153 4.1757
Basque_French_HGDP01377 4.17188

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 12:35 PM
What I do know as far as family is English, Irish, German, and Italian. Here's the deal. In these tests I get East Euro and French. My Y is R1a1a. My cousins when they test they do not score any Slavic or French.

Looks for sure that you have some recent East European ancestry , maybe your Italian ancestor was half East Euro ?

Lemgrant
04-22-2019, 12:35 PM
What I do know as far as family is English, Irish, German, and Italian. Here's the deal. In these tests I get East Euro and French. My Y is R1a1a. My cousins when they test they do not score any Slavic or French.

So you don't know anything about the Slavic ancestors?

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:35 PM
Post K13

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.59
2 Baltic 25.13
3 West_Med 14.57
4 East_Med 12.19
5 West_Asian 7.57
6 Red_Sea 1.61
7 South_Asian 1.21
8 Amerindian 1.18
9 Northeast_African 1.14


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 6.942495
2 Hungarian @ 7.624191
3 Serbian @ 9.084677
4 East_German @ 9.764771
5 West_German @ 9.794897
6 South_Dutch @ 11.787029
7 French @ 12.680353
8 Romanian @ 12.745910
9 Croatian @ 13.558361
10 Moldavian @ 13.633217
11 North_German @ 15.711340
12 Bulgarian @ 16.188131
13 Southeast_English @ 17.926079
14 Danish @ 18.422274
15 North_Dutch @ 18.769777
16 Portuguese @ 18.772793
17 South_Polish @ 18.848547
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 19.028904
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.095654
20 North_Italian @ 19.173985

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_German @ 1.866525


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +25% North_German +25% Tuscan @ 1.506524


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian_Polish + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.346698
2 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.356535
3 East_Sicilian + Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.396887
4 Danish + East_Sicilian + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.397044
5 North_German + Ukrainian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.403517
6 Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.415856
7 Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.416141
8 Belorussian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.420268
9 Danish + Polish + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.445588
10 Croatian + Danish + Greek_Thessaly + West_German @ 1.446850
11 East_Sicilian + Russian_Smolensk + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.459479
12 East_Sicilian + North_Dutch + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.470756
13 Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.491367
14 East_Sicilian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian @ 1.493043
15 Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.493080
16 Hungarian + Hungarian + North_German + Tuscan @ 1.506524
17 East_Sicilian + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German @ 1.509553
18 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_German @ 1.518932
19 East_German + Hungarian + North_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.524266
20 East_Sicilian + Estonian_Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.524837

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:37 PM
So you don't know anything about the Slavic ancestors?

Not other than matches I get on the services. Most of them being Polish, Russian, and Ukrainians with my strongest matches being Russians. I match strongly with some Belarusians as well.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 12:38 PM
Here is my IBD overview. I will provide part of it. You can see a strong Slavic presence esp North Russian.

AAB_Anglo_Saxon_NO3423 19.48398
AAB_Sintashta_RISE395 16.164902
English_Kent_HG00158 14.367849
Polish_Polish16H 13.563032
English_Kent_HG00136 12.760677
Sicilian_East_EastSicilian3H 11.8423805
German_IL550_0192 11.722059
German_IL550_0204 11.670863
English_Cornwall_HG00265 11.529468
German_GS000016892 11.427855
AAB_Ireland_EBA_Rathlin1_RM127 11.362549
Utah_USA_NA12045 11.15444104
Norwegian_NOR119 11.037497
Ingrian_GS000016897 10.868328
Croatian_GS000015871 10.8453271
English_Kent_HG00159 10.731073
Finnish_GS000016895 10.5544599
AAB_Nordic_LN_RISE98 10.396912
Ukrainian_West_UkrLv228 10.393318
Orcadian_HG00107 10.355472
Ukrainian_North_Ukraine141 10.3141515
Serbian_Bosnia_Serbian_B-H11_GSM1424666 10.2239582
AAB_Unetice_RISE150 10.212964
Ukrainian_East_UkrBel614 10.036635
Utah_German_NA12057 9.913035
Belarusian_belorus7 9.815257
Vepsa_GS000016971 9.566861
Latvian_GS000035027 9.539401
Polish_Polish13H 9.479041
Bulgarian_Bulgarian15H 9.388864
German_IL550_0391 9.289345
French_HGDP00519 9.277828
German_IL550_0133 9.0737346
Finnish_GS000018756 9.02088
Russian_North_HGDP00880 8.931932
Montenegrin_Montenegro4_GSM1424637 8.880315
German_GS000016893 8.842881
Saami_GS000035024 8.841275
Ukrainian_East_GS000035176 8.735819
Utah_Scandinavian_NA11829 8.668876
Ukrainian_East_GS000035121 8.6328089
Slovenian_Slovenian321 8.4814716
Finnish_GS000016894 8.4297409
Slovakian_Slovakia118 8.41347
Cossack_Kuban_GS000016186 8.407539
Russian_North_HGDP00888 8.385822
Russian_North_HGDP00886 8.24023
Utah_USA_NA12341 8.18311
English_Cornwall_HG00261 8.142136
German_IL550_0367 8.111112
English_Cornwall_HG00262 8.04419
Karelian_GS000016970 8.025878
Spanish_Cataluna_HG01536 7.919741
Orcadian_HGDP00802 7.902739
French_HGDP00534 7.7881298
Estonian_ee59 7.769276
Russian_North_HGDP00885 7.767556
English_Cornwall_HG00251 7.761856
Orcadian_HG00122 7.732638
Croatian_GSM1841120 7.7085598
Serbian_Serbian_Serbia6_GSM1424680 7.69554
Russian_North_HGDP00898 7.687647
Mordovian_GS000013698 7.684275
Croatian_GSM1841121 7.661545
German_IL550_0433 7.629471
Russian_North_HGDP00899 7.589165
German_IL550_0445 7.582084
English_Kent_HG00129 7.492525
English_Cornwall_HG00250 7.483821
English_Cornwall_HG00245 7.436681
Hungarian_hungary8 7.383453
Irish_IRL006 7.377678
Montenegrin_Montenegro5_GSM1424638 7.363673
AAB_Mezhovskaya_RISE523 7.3609616
Bosnian_Bosnian_14_GSM1424655 7.3565848
Utah_USA_NA12383 7.256356
Slovenian_Slovenian299 7.224247
Ukrainian_West_UkrLv226 7.213755
Belarusian_GS000016104 7.199316
English_Kent_HG00126 7.161614
Norwegian_NOR111 7.151616
Russian_Northwest_evo_2 7.139177
Mozabite_HGDP01275 7.108555
Russian_North_GS000013756 7.08604982
Ukrainian_North_Ukraine133 7.055681
Estonian_GS000017199 6.965786
Khanty_GS000016906 6.939065
AAB_Nordic_IA_RISE174 6.89061
Serbian_Serbia_Serbia19_GSM1424665 6.866246
Estonian_ee1 6.770008
AAB_Ireland_EBA_Rathlin2_RSK1 6.760027
Spanish_Aragon_HG01676 6.716239
Lithuanian_lithuania7 6.693315
Irish_IRL001 6.681312
Russian_Central_GS000035242 6.671154
Serbian_Serbian_Serbia5_GSM1424679 6.659541
German_IL550_0461 6.620043
Spanish_Extremadura_HG01509 6.617981
Irish_IRL005 6.54784
Orcadian_HGDP00810 6.528422
Hungarian_hungary19 6.4651684
Belarusian_belorus8 6.463371
AAB_Andronovo_RISE500 6.429001
French_HGDP00511 6.413119
Hungarian_hungary9 6.35305
Bosnian_Bosnian_6_GSM1424662 6.351789
Finnish_HG00364 6.349876
Bosnian_Bosnian_12_GSM1424653 6.326796
Romanian_Romania16 6.3157799
Utah_USA_NA12264 6.314393
Mozabite_HGDP01279 6.29651
Polish_Polish7H 6.27854
Orcadian_HGDP00800 6.267154
Utah_German_NA07345 6.266461
Utah_Scandinavian_NA12347 6.225627
AAB_Karasuk_RISE496 6.192397
Polish_Polish11H 6.146041
Macedonian_Macedonian12_GSM1424614 6.110368
Belarusian_belorus4 6.1080659
English_Kent_HG00146 6.088209
Utah_British_NA12348 6.0595122
Saami_GS000035026 6.039583
Utah_USA_NA12234 6.02859
Spanish_Galicia_HG01704 5.969855
Bulgarian_Bulgaria39 5.9655728
Russian_Central_GS000016797 5.954777
Utah_USA_NA12748 5.931534
Russian_North_HGDP00887 5.926507
Utah_USA_NA12749 5.898368
Orcadian_HGDP00796 5.880476
AAB_Afanasievo_RISE511 5.86506
Ukrainian_North_GS000013755 5.837107
Sicilian_West_WestSicilian2H 5.825265
Spanish_Spain3 5.804552
English_Cornwall_HG00259 5.785663
Croatian_GSM1841122 5.7777366
English_Kent_HG00149 5.775977
Estonian_GS000017206 5.749024
Italian_Tuscan_NA20802 5.720599
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon_HG01784 5.720072
Estonian_ee140 5.708638
Armenian_arm18 5.642764
Russian_West_GS000016819 5.635631
Spanish_Cantabria_HG01513 5.5916891
Bashkir_GS000035032 5.57992
Mari_GS000015715 5.576645
Chuvash_Chuvash5 5.574531
Chuvash_Chuvash6 5.574046
Saami_GS000035025 5.5719971
Ukrainian_North_UkrainePol25 5.567726
Utah_USA_NA12342 5.564334
Chuvash_Chuvash8 5.551202
French_HGDP00531 5.541919
Utah_German_NA07022 5.522419
Russian_North_HGDP00896 5.48723
Serbian_Serbian_Serbia12_GSM1424673 5.46912
English_Kent_HG00128 5.465121
Italian_Tuscan_NA20529 5.4603955
Mordovian_GS000014330 5.458355
Polish_GS000015869 5.407757
Russian_North_HGDP00893 5.384989
Montenegrin_Montenegro1_GSM1424636 5.349145
Ukrainian_East_UkrBel736 5.344878
AAB_Karasuk_RISE499 5.314966
Dominican_GSM531157 5.2956
Estonian_GS000017210 5.282319
Croatian_GSM1841125 5.271873
Italian_Tuscan_NA20799 5.264869
German_IL550_0031 5.232845
Utah_Scandinavian_NA12003 5.218089
Slovenian_Slovenian137 5.193577
Spanish_Spain1 5.17424
English_Kent_HG00145 5.171236
Pathan_HGDP00216 5.152574
Spanish_Cantabria_HG01680 5.1416404
Tajik_Ishkasim_GS000016189 5.122579
Slovakian_Slovakia256 5.121789
English_Cornwall_HG00264 5.120518
Peruvian_HG01973 5.115615
Karelian_GS000035149 5.1149
Russian_North_HGDP00882 5.09359
Croatian_GSM1841116 5.08976
English_Kent_HG00130 5.081714
Slovakian_Slovakia425 5.0780624
Orcadian_HG00114 5.046427
Estonian_a39 5.04608
Ukrainian_West_GS000035177 5.041802
Greek_Greek6H 5.040983
Orcadian_HG00102 5.03341
Mordovian_mordovia10 5.03335
Italian_Tuscan_NA20772 5.0296924
Kosovar_Kosovo12_GSM1424631 5.02254
Latvian_latvian58C8 5.017757
Latvian_latvian22J5 4.996687
AAB_Yamnaya_Kalmykia_RISE552 4.981613
Spanish_Pais_Vasco_HG01515 4.9758584
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon_HG01612 4.973659
Bosnian_Bosnian_10_GSM1424651 4.962554
Utah_USA_NA12750 4.94521
Slovenian_Slovenian90 4.934478
English_Kent_HG00154 4.93255
Mordovian_mordovia13 4.92146066
Estonian_ee78 4.9135612
Slovenian_Slovenian275 4.910595
English_Cornwall_HG00252 4.896616
Belarusian_belorus5 4.89272
Latvian_latvian58C6 4.884538
German_IL550_0091 4.87534
Russian_North_HGDP00892 4.865875
Georgian_mg47 4.8580998
Italian_Tuscan_NA20796 4.85372
German_IL550_0399 4.8534
Kalash_HGDP00290 4.825524
French_HGDP00533 4.818736
Italian_Bergamo_HGDP01177 4.810575
Macedonian_Macedonian3_GSM1424622 4.8032354
Italian_Tuscan_NA20535 4.782758
Ukrainian_West_UkrLv240 4.782318
Norwegian_NOR146 4.74284
Greek_Greek8H 4.7381
Utah_USA_NA12043 4.729563
AAB_Iberia_EN_CB13 4.718556
Puerto_Rican_GSM531201 4.710677
Mozabite_HGDP01254 4.70809
English_Cornwall_HG00237 4.7072
Belarusian_GS000014324 4.70266
Mordovian_mordovia6 4.69843
Ukrainian_East_UkrBel618 4.696958
Utah_USA_NA11919 4.684856
Dominican_GSM531141 4.672293
Orcadian_HGDP00798 4.671886
Estonian_ee45 4.638389
Italian_Tuscan_HGDP01162 4.634653
Polish_Polish15H 4.631589
Hungarian_hungary20 4.600884
Russian_North_HGDP00890 4.59656
Macedonian_Macedonian19_GSM1424617 4.594199
Russian_North_HGDP00901 4.593058
Brahui_HGDP00037 4.57616
BedouinB_HGDP00650 4.57231
English_Kent_HG00137 4.569955
Italian_Bergamo_HGDP01155 4.566703
Orcadian_HG00096 4.563598
Utah_Scandinavian_NA12751 4.561095
Slovenian_Slovenian241 4.534218
Italian_Tuscan_NA20752 4.532742
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon_HG01506 4.529315
Russian_North_HGDP00903 4.528812
Slovenian_Slovenian188 4.527511
English_Cornwall_HG00258 4.509667
Basque_French_HGDP01379 4.508468
Mordovian_mordovia3 4.507585
English_Cornwall_HG00260 4.503909
Bulgarian_Bulgarian10H 4.4883219
Colombian_GSM531133 4.485284
Italian_South_SouthItalian6H 4.4711401
Bulgarian_Bulgarian13H 4.468168
AAB_Spain_LNCA_ATP2 4.465933
Estonian_GS000017209 4.4405454
AAB_Unetice_RISE577 4.44004
Cypriot_Cyprus1 4.439149
English_Cornwall_HG00263 4.426469
AAB_Portugal_LNCA_CabecoArruda122A 4.424385
Armenian_Chambarak_591320 4.41876
English_Kent_HG00150 4.403691
Chuvash_Chuvash4 4.388861
Italian_Tuscan_NA20517 4.380115
Spanish_Spanish17H 4.379927
Montenegrin_Montenegro11_GSM1424643 4.374341
Orcadian_HG00108 4.364735
Cossack_Ukrainian_GS000035239 4.3521907
Spanish_Spain2 4.342969
Lithuanian_lithuania1 4.331231
Italian_Tuscan_NA20774 4.328805
French_HGDP00520 4.325845
Ukrainian_East_UkrBel620 4.319737
Estonian_GS000017208 4.316687
Bulgarian_Bulgarian17H 4.312189
Turkish_tur306 4.306809
Palestinian_HGDP00730 4.296797
Ukrainian_North_Ukraine97 4.290427
Macedonian_Macedonian20_GSM1424619 4.286787
Russian_North_HGDP00889 4.272637
Kurdish_kurd1173 4.26242
Utah_USA_NA12145 4.2613
AAB_LaBrana1_LaBrana1 4.256572
Norwegian_NOR124 4.2432718
Italian_Tuscan_NA20809 4.24218
Spanish_Spain13 4.235122
Cossack_Kuban_GS000035179 4.218072
German_IL550_0421 4.215554
Spanish_Pais_Vasco_HG01516 4.20254
Russian_North_HGDP00879 4.19332
Romanian_Romania5 4.18818
Italian_Bergamo_HGDP01153 4.1757
Basque_French_HGDP01377 4.17188

Definitly admixed Euro,
I think there must be recent East Euro background that you havnt heard about...I would think it cant be too distant based on your results.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:39 PM
So you don't know anything about the Slavic ancestors?

Maybe a Slavic Merc serving the Romans and mixed?

Matxe92
04-22-2019, 12:42 PM
Aren't there many North East Italians that have SE EU admix? which probably then is being read as slavic.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:43 PM
Aren't there many North East Italians that have SE EU admix? which probably then is being read as slavic.

My Italian is mostly central to southern shifted. Keep in mind my subclade is L260 which is Slavic.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 12:44 PM
Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.59
2 Baltic 25.13
3 West_Med 14.57
4 East_Med 12.19
5 West_Asian 7.57
6 Red_Sea 1.61
7 South_Asian 1.21
8 Amerindian 1.18
9 Northeast_African 1.14


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 6.942495
2 Hungarian @ 7.624191
3 Serbian @ 9.084677
4 East_German @ 9.764771
5 West_German @ 9.794897
6 South_Dutch @ 11.787029
7 French @ 12.680353
8 Romanian @ 12.745910
9 Croatian @ 13.558361
10 Moldavian @ 13.633217
11 North_German @ 15.711340
12 Bulgarian @ 16.188131
13 Southeast_English @ 17.926079
14 Danish @ 18.422274
15 North_Dutch @ 18.769777
16 Portuguese @ 18.772793
17 South_Polish @ 18.848547
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 19.028904
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.095654
20 North_Italian @ 19.173985

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_German @ 1.866525


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +25% North_German +25% Tuscan @ 1.506524


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian_Polish + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.346698
2 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.356535
3 East_Sicilian + Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.396887
4 Danish + East_Sicilian + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.397044
5 North_German + Ukrainian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.403517
6 Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.415856
7 Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.416141
8 Belorussian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.420268
9 Danish + Polish + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.445588
10 Croatian + Danish + Greek_Thessaly + West_German @ 1.446850
11 East_Sicilian + Russian_Smolensk + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.459479
12 East_Sicilian + North_Dutch + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.470756
13 Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.491367
14 East_Sicilian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian @ 1.493043
15 Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.493080
16 Hungarian + Hungarian + North_German + Tuscan @ 1.506524
17 East_Sicilian + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German @ 1.509553
18 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_German @ 1.518932
19 East_German + Hungarian + North_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.524266
20 East_Sicilian + Estonian_Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.524837

Im half Hungarian and half British , and your K13 shows some similarity to mine .

Oszkar k13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.91
2 Baltic 31.04
3 West_Med 12.32
4 East_Med 8.99
5 West_Asian 4.70
6 Siberian 2.29
7 Red_Sea 1.68


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 4.631610
2 East_German @ 4.969576
3 Hungarian @ 7.405055
4 West_German @ 10.428488
5 North_German @ 11.039373
6 South_Dutch @ 11.371811
7 North_Swedish @ 12.219734
8 Swedish @ 12.877892
9 Croatian @ 13.561493
10 Danish @ 13.672161
11 North_Dutch @ 14.043571
12 South_Polish @ 14.359445
13 Norwegian @ 14.845371
14 Southeast_English @ 14.914800
15 Serbian @ 15.326852
16 Orcadian @ 15.661253
17 Moldavian @ 15.966795
18 French @ 16.041477
19 Southwest_Finnish @ 16.114065
20 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.540134

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% Swedish @ 3.826166


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_Finnish +25% Tuscan +25% West_Scottish @ 2.323866


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 North_Dutch + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 1.708214
2 Danish + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 1.783676
3 Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 1.888703
4 Belorussian + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 1.896435
5 North_German + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 1.909689
6 Estonian + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 2.013896
7 Belorussian + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 2.018819
8 Danish + Estonian + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 2.051505
9 Belorussian + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 2.088531
10 Norwegian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 2.103123

Matxe92
04-22-2019, 12:46 PM
My Italian is mostly central to southern shifted. Keep in mind my subclade is L260 which is Slavic.

What's ur results on the bigger sites like 23andme, ancestryDNA etc.? Do you get slavic %?
Yeah i know R1a, it's slavic.

Luke35
04-22-2019, 12:47 PM
So let's assume it is your paternal side that has the Slavic, were there any East Germans you are aware of?

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:48 PM
What's ur results on the bigger sites like 23andme, ancestryDNA etc.? Do you get slavic %?
Yeah i know R1a, it's slavic.


Ancestry DNA
England, Wales & Northwestern Europe 24%

Italy 21%

Eastern Europe & Russia 15%

Germanic Europe 14%

France 11%

Ireland & Scotland 6%

Sweden 4%

Baltic States 2%

Greece & the Balkans 1%

Turkey & the Caucasus 1%

Finland 1%


DNA Tribes SNP Analysis

Balto-NorthSlavic 34.3%
Northwest European 27.1%
Italian Greek 14.4%
Iberian 7.1%
Basque 5%
Balkan 4%
North African 4%
Persian Jewish 1.7%
Caucasus 1.6%
Other 0.8%

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:49 PM
So let's assume it is your paternal side that has the Slavic, were there any East Germans you are aware of?

They are all Italian looking. I do not really look like them to be honest. My maternal grandfather was German and he looked it.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 12:49 PM
My Italian is mostly central to southern shifted. Keep in mind my subclade is L260 which is Slavic.

Your autosomal results that show Slavic aspects would be much more recent than your Ydna being Slavic.
You must have a hidden Slav in the woodpile not too far back.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 12:51 PM
Your autosomal results that show Slavic aspects would be much more recent than your Ydna being Slavic.
You must have a hidden Slav in the woodpile not too far back.

My family is not close. The people that were have passed a long time ago. These things were never a topic.

Matxe92
04-22-2019, 01:01 PM
Your autosomal results that show Slavic aspects would be much more recent than your Ydna being Slavic.
You must have a hidden Slav in the woodpile not too far back.

Not neccesarily. Often neigbouring countries will have admix from each other. That doesn't mean it's recent and it's definitely not a guarentee that you have ancestors from there.
Just as is the case with North East italians having slight slavic admix etc. or swedes having central eu admix.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 01:10 PM
Not neccesarily. Often neigbouring countries will have admix from each other. That doesn't mean it's recent and it's definitely not a guarentee that you have ancestors from there.
Just as is the case with North East italians having slight slavic admix etc. or swedes having central eu admix.

He said his Italian ancestors are not North East Italians.
To maintain noticable Slavic results that are not too diluted means its likely to be recent, how many Italians get as much Slavic as him ?

He is getting as much Slav as people whom can have at least 1 grandparent from slavic/east euro country.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 01:34 PM
He said his Italian ancestors are not North East Italians.
To maintain noticable Slavic results that are not too diluted means its likely to be recent, how many Italians get as much Slavic as him ?

He is getting as much Slav as people whom can have at least 1 grandparent from slavic/east euro country.

I have several matches from Russia where all four of their grandparents are from Russia as well.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 01:40 PM
I have several matches from Russia where all four of their grandparents are from Russia as well.

I dont see how your Slavic input could be distant (meaning had to be an ancestor of east euro / slavic heritage that is not further back from you than a Grandparnt) unless several or all Grandparents carried small amounts of Slavic that could contribute overall to your result . But I think thats less likely , more likely you have a Grandparent whom has some significant East Euro/Slavic ancestry. If not from Italian side , maybe your German Grandfather could have been of East Euro background.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 01:46 PM
have you got results from DNAland ?

Matxe92
04-22-2019, 01:48 PM
He said his Italian ancestors are not North East Italians.
To maintain noticable Slavic results that are not too diluted means its likely to be recent, how many Italians get as much Slavic as him ?

He is getting as much Slav as people whom can have at least 1 grandparent from slavic/east euro country.

I know it was just an example with the North east italian.

Yeah by chance his % could match someone with 1 grandparent from a slavic country. But it's not guarentee that he has one.

I get 12% north west european in tests. I dont have a great grandparent who is from Germany. They are all from Denmark back to the 1700's. That's another example that the % can't be taken as an absolute always.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 01:48 PM
have you got results from DNAland ?

They put me at like 10-12% Slavic.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 01:49 PM
I know it was just an example with the North east italian.

Yeah by chance his % could match someone with 1 grandparent from a slavic country. But it's not guarentee that he has one.

I get 12% north west european in tests. I dont have a great grandparent who is from Germany. They are all from Denmark back to the 1700's. That's another example that the % can't be taken as an absolute always.

Denmark can be considered NW Euro. So you think by chance I have all these Slavic matches and the fact Tribes put me at over 30% Slav? Kid you have a lot to learn.

Matxe92
04-22-2019, 01:56 PM
Denmark can be considered NW Euro. So you think by chance I have all these Slavic matches and the fact Tribes put me at over 30% Slav? Kid you have a lot to learn.

Didn't read your other replies, sry. I don't know if your IQ is low or something, or you are missing my point.

30% is alot yeah and if you get matches aswell, it's probably not noise admix from neighbour countries. You know i get 30% british aswell on AncestryDNA lol, im not british.

My point was just a suggestion.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 01:57 PM
Didn't read your other replies, sry. I don't know if your IQ is low or something, or you are missing my point.

30% is alot yeah and if you get matches aswell, it's probably not noise admix from neighbour countries. You know i get 30% british aswell on AncestryDNA lol, im not british.

My point was just a suggestion.

Maybe you have reading comprehension issues so I will overlook your remarks. You would partake in a discussion and not read the info provided from the individual who started the thread? Ok.

hush2019
04-22-2019, 01:57 PM
GED match is just confusing I am doing a thread about it you have the same result of my Cousin who is German Bosnian and Syrian or close to it she has about almost 4 percent Red Sea and almost 12 percent West Asian and was matched with Serbs and Romanians maybe other Cals on GED match are accurate but I don't know about the 13k

hush2019
04-22-2019, 01:59 PM
I also got matched with Italy and Macedonia Greece but I am partly Near Eastern ( Greco Anatolian ) ''Caucasian'' and partly British they given me 12 West Asian and 8 percent Red Sea yet I have far more Germanic bone structure.

I was also matched with Romanian Bulgarian and Serbs but more distant.

Matxe92
04-22-2019, 02:00 PM
Maybe you have reading comprehension issues so I will overlook your remarks. You would partake in a discussion and not read the info provided from the individual who started the thread? Ok.

Yeah i just missed it.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 02:00 PM
GED match is just confusing I am doing a thread about it you have the same result of my Cousin who is German Bosnian and Syrian or close to it she has about almost 4 percent Red Sea and almost 12 percent West Asian and was matched with Serbs and Romanians maybe other Cals on GED match are accurate but I don't know about the 13k

I don't take Gedmatch as gold. I look at my results from every aspect of DNA testing especially my matches as they tell the true story.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 02:01 PM
I know it was just an example with the North east italian.

Yeah by chance his % could match someone with 1 grandparent from a slavic country. But it's not guarentee that he has one.

I get 12% north west european in tests. I dont have a great grandparent who is from Germany. They are all from Denmark back to the 1700's. That's another example that the % can't be taken as an absolute always.

12% is not that much and Denmark to other NW countries is not huge stretch eg would be more unusual if you got 12% Balkan or Iberian/SW Euro.
Im not too suprised about a half Dane getting 12% North West Euro.
But in some tests he was getting over 20 % Slavic and other one 34 %, and look at his K13 clustering.
Italians dont usually get much Baltic or East Euro components , you referenced NE Slovenian type Italians before but not sure they even get much unless they are part Slovene.

hush2019
04-22-2019, 02:01 PM
Yeah i just missed it.

And your hero is Winston Churchill lol?

hush2019
04-22-2019, 02:02 PM
I don't take Gedmatch as gold. I look at my results from every aspect of DNA testing especially my matches as they tell the true story.

They given me double the amount of Red Sea to her yet I literally look Cro Magnon

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 02:03 PM
They given me double the amount of Red Sea to her yet I literally look Cro Magnon

Looks and genetics are different things. I look Italian and French according to others but I have their DNA as well.

hush2019
04-22-2019, 02:13 PM
Looks and genetics are different things. I look Italian and French according to others but I have their DNA as well.

Cro Magnon is bone structure

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 02:13 PM
Cro Magnon is bone structure

That is still appearance related at least, imo.

hush2019
04-22-2019, 02:22 PM
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27867290_148114699326766_8473243111553223787_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=a9ebd66f4b12f0945e1fbd5650d8446b&oe=5D6DFFD8

This is my Cousin who basically does look Slavic

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055943_936559369830748_6263702514758978635_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=430d8d1573cca3e237b6611ad1add292&oe=5D2E4BA8

This is her Grandfather who basically looks Middle Eastern I can assure you no one in my imediate family looks anything close to that Arabic. So I don't get GED match or if they take Y dna into account since the females in her family are European.

And the males in my family are South East European I thought Autosomal did take all dna into account...Am I wrong?

hush2019
04-22-2019, 02:24 PM
That is still appearance related at least, imo.

Bone structure will show up in your physical appearance someone who is part North European and partly South East European/Caucasus would be any stretch of the imagination be more European than someone 1/4 Arab because Arabs are Semitic so what I am saying is that I don't think GED match takes all the dna into account. Just certain chromosomes

Matxe92
04-22-2019, 02:27 PM
12% is not that much and Denmark to other NW countries is not huge stretch eg would be more unusual if you got 12% Balkan or Iberian/SW Euro.
Im not too suprised about a half Dane getting 12% North West Euro.
But in some tests he was getting over 20 % Slavic and other one 34 %, and look at his K13 clustering.
Italians dont usually get much Baltic or East Euro components , you referenced NE Slovenian type Italians before but not sure they even get much unless they are part Slovene.
...

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 02:31 PM
I'm 75% danish. But yes, you have a valid point. I don't know this dudes papertrail, so given that he has not any ancestors who lived close to the slavosphere but werent slavs, then yes, 30% is a lot, and probably means he has legist ancestors from there.

LOL!

hush2019
04-22-2019, 02:37 PM
Depends what part of Italy he is from for a start apart of Italy historically borders Slovenia

hush2019
04-22-2019, 02:37 PM
He is also haplogroup H which is highest in either the Balkans and Iberia Hispania so something about him is MED

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 02:40 PM
He is also haplogroup H which is highest in either the Balkans and Iberia Hispania so something about him is MED

My X is H1. My Y is R1a1a. Yes there is Med there.

hush2019
04-22-2019, 02:45 PM
My X is H1. My Y is R1a1a. Yes there is Med there.

You mean your Maternal line is H1? Well yes then Atlantic it's your Mother who is of some Atlantic sub set and your Father who is typically Slavic but I think Slovenians would be closer to Rs even Polish and Russians as most Balkan Slavs are I like Serbs and Bulgarians

Apart from Albanians who are mostly E numbers

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 02:47 PM
You mean your Maternal line is H1? Well yes then Atlantic it's your Mother who is of some Atlantic sub set and your Father who is typically Slavic but I think Slovenians would be closer to Rs even Polish and Russians as most Balkan Slavs are I like Serbs and Bulgarians

Apart from Albanians who are mostly E numbers

Russians are mostly R1a like me.

oszkar07
04-22-2019, 02:48 PM
He is also haplogroup H which is highest in either the Balkans and Iberia Hispania so something about him is MED

H is i beleive one most common Mtdna across Europe mine is H1m

hush2019
04-22-2019, 03:07 PM
H is i beleive one most common Mtdna across Europe mine is H1m

It's the marker of the Indo European Caucasian line right across Europe it is highest in the Balkans, second highest in the Caucasian part of the Near East like Armenia for example and then right the way across Western North and East Europe

hush2019
04-22-2019, 03:08 PM
Russians are mostly R1a like me.

Yes it's mostly Baltic Slavics I'd like to see a run down from the C Republic too

kristian
04-22-2019, 03:24 PM
They are all Italian looking. I do not really look like them to be honest. My maternal grandfather was German and he looked it.

Slavic Italian
04-22-2019, 03:27 PM
I look Italian but they all have black hair(I don't) and are built differently than me. Different demeanors as well.

Alenka
04-22-2019, 03:38 PM
What time period did your Italian ancestors migrate to the US?

Mans not hot
04-22-2019, 03:55 PM
Yes, you are.


SLAVA;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq_uqAQno9o