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Methuselah
04-24-2019, 07:05 AM
https://i.ibb.co/bKDFTQW/58383767-670687913367123-8095296119191371776-n.jpg

Zeus
04-24-2019, 07:16 AM
Maybe.. Jesus was from Modern day Palestine/Israel region and there are indigenous peoples from that area that could look like the guy in the painting, but the majority look more mediterranean/MENA.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 07:23 AM
Maybe.. Jesus was from Modern day Palestine/Israel region and there are indigenous peoples from that area that could look like the guy in the painting, but the majority look more mediterranean/MENA.

This one is probably closer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi_(Leonardo)

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 07:29 AM
Jesus was a caucasian jew..not a caucasian "arab" from South Arabic peninsula..


Jihad al-Khazen Lebanon

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2164632441/Jihad-el-Khazen_400x400.jpg

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 07:32 AM
Jesus was a caucasian jew..not a caucasian "arab" from South Arabic peninsula..

Can you elaborate more? Does the man in the painting look Arab? Or you meant that Da Vinci's Jesus looks too Arabic?

Zeus
04-24-2019, 07:34 AM
This one is probably closer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi_(Leonardo)

when I think of Jesus, I think of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Pantocrator_(Sinai)

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 07:39 AM
Can you elaborate more? Does the man in the painting look Arab? Or you meant that Da Vinci's Jesus looks too Arabic?

Jesus in the painting doesn't look like a "dark" arabic but don't forget that not all the people in Syria Lebanon Israel look like this one

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpWvN-dG3XcBzYYn1cbbAy6zkStnmnWFzOJqa9VZ2c7MiMXl3n

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 07:42 AM
when I think of Jesus, I think of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Pantocrator_(Sinai)

The main difference is the hair colour


Light brown Jesus

https://i.ibb.co/bKDFTQW/58383767-670687913367123-8095296119191371776-n.jpg

Dark brown Jesus

https://www.ccnorcross.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christ-Pantocrator-02-11x14-600x743.jpg

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 07:43 AM
https://i.ibb.co/bKDFTQW/58383767-670687913367123-8095296119191371776-n.jpg

Who said only Hitler and Nazis were Nordicist?


http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/pics_03/p_salute.jpg

http://www.blessedquietness.com/pius1213.jpg

http://www.1389.org.rs/slike/NDH/Ustase.jpg

http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/pics_03/salutes.jpg

https://raelianews.org/thumb.php?src=e_IMAGE%2Fnewspost_images%2Fpope-benedict-nazi-salute.jpg&w=900&h=600



when I think of Jesus, I think of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Pantocrator_(Sinai)

Skeptical of what to do with Northerners.

https://www.comshalom.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/cristo-pantocrator-do-sinal.jpg



Jesus in the painting doesn't look like a "dark" arabic but don't forget that not all the people in Syria Lebanon Israel look like this one

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpWvN-dG3XcBzYYn1cbbAy6zkStnmnWFzOJqa9VZ2c7MiMXl3n


According to Northerners, this Barcelona Spaniard is at least Arab.

https://actualitechretienne.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/jesus-pasolini.jpg

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 07:45 AM
Jesus in the painting doesn't look like a "dark" arabic but don't forget that not all the people in Syria Lebanon Israel look like this one

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpWvN-dG3XcBzYYn1cbbAy6zkStnmnWFzOJqa9VZ2c7MiMXl3n

I know. But we have to remember also that some Arabs and Jews look alike very much.

Anyway those depictions of Jesus above are not Jewish enough for you if i got you right? Akiane Kramarik painted Jesus like this. Looks Jewish but not fully Middle Eastern. https://art-soulworks.com/products/jesus-prince-of-peace-canvas-3-sizes-limited-editions-akiane-signed-numbered-prices-vary-accordingly-2

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 07:49 AM
Who said only Hitler and Nazis were Nordicist?




https://raelianews.org/thumb.php?src=e_IMAGE%2Fnewspost_images%2Fpope-benedict-nazi-salute.jpg&w=900&h=600


This is the real pict..

https://www.uccronline.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Ratzinger-Joseph-Saluto-vero.jpg

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 07:50 AM
Who said only Hitler and Nazis were Nordicist?


http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/pics_03/p_salute.jpg

http://www.blessedquietness.com/pius1213.jpg

http://www.1389.org.rs/slike/NDH/Ustase.jpg

http://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/pics_03/salutes.jpg

https://raelianews.org/thumb.php?src=e_IMAGE%2Fnewspost_images%2Fpope-benedict-nazi-salute.jpg&w=900&h=600




https://www.comshalom.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/cristo-pantocrator-do-sinal.jpg

Well, depicting such a significant person in the way people can relate to is not quite Nazi or Nordicist.... It's a bit different type of stuff.

I don't like Catholic Church at all, but saying that they were Nordicist Nazis is probably a bit too much. But they probably were cowardish at times. https://abcnews.go.com/International/vatican-open-wwii-archives-pope-pius-xii/story?id=61462841

Blondie
04-24-2019, 07:50 AM
I think Jesus looked like a typical south european med with brown hair and eyes.

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 07:52 AM
I know. But we have to remember also that some Arabs and Jews look alike very much.

Anyway those depictions of Jesus above are not Jewish enough for you if i got you right? Akiane Kramarik painted Jesus like this. Looks Jewish but not fully Middle Eastern. https://art-soulworks.com/products/jesus-prince-of-peace-canvas-3-sizes-limited-editions-akiane-signed-numbered-prices-vary-accordingly-2


In 3-4 generations the average english/french will be like this..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/formula-1/2018/08/25/TELEMMGLPICT000172460301_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqoU7dhDn yp6z60EycLFYieftGXCuAFYDKTmRcVkB1G90.jpeg?imwidth= 450


This is one of the oldest Jesus painting

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Christ_with_beard.jpg

If you have faith enough..

This is the Sindone Jesus face

http://www.enricobaccarini.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/3sovr1.jpg

Haider
04-24-2019, 07:52 AM
Jesus had short hair tho.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 07:55 AM
In 3-4 generations the average english/french will be like this..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/formula-1/2018/08/25/TELEMMGLPICT000172460301_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqoU7dhDn yp6z60EycLFYieftGXCuAFYDKTmRcVkB1G90.jpeg?imwidth= 450


This is one of the oldest Jesus painting

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Christ_with_beard.jpg

If you have faith enough..

This is the Sindone Jesus face

http://www.enricobaccarini.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/3sovr1.jpg

I honestly can't get your logic man. Making fun of someone's skin tone on the thread like this. Come on fella, you are not like that. That man is the greatest F1 driver to ever race by the way...

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 07:59 AM
Well, depicting such a significant person in the way people can relate to is not quite Nazi or Nordicist.... It's a bit different type of stuff.

I don't like Catholic Church at all, but saying that they were Nordicist Nazis is probably a bit too much. But they probably were cowardish at times. https://abcnews.go.com/International/vatican-open-wwii-archives-pope-pius-xii/story?id=61462841

In the beginning nazis were socialist...
Hitler ( Catholic sigh ) was yet another hater of a long list of anti-jews...
And the Italian fascists were the 'older brothers' of Nazism.

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 08:01 AM
I honestly can't get your logic man. Making fun of someone's skin tone on the thread like this. Come on fella, you are not like that. That man is the greatest F1 driver to ever race by the way...

It is not fun... it is a fact... the people everywere are interbreeding each other..

Who is the average Brasilian ?...


Schumacher was a better F1 driver eh eh..:cool:

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 08:10 AM
It is not fun... it is a fact... the people everywere are interbreeding each other..

Who is the average Brasilian ?...


Schumacher was a better F1 driver eh eh..:cool:

Schumacher was amazing indeed.

Haider
04-24-2019, 08:12 AM
Maybe like a younger version of this Lebanese actor from Southern Lebanon (which was historically part of Galilee)?

https://dance-on.net/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/rabih-mroue_Foto-Dorothea-Tuch_klein1.jpg

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 08:20 AM
https://raelianews.org/thumb.php?src=e_IMAGE%2Fnewspost_images%2Fpope-benedict-nazi-salute.jpg&w=900&h=600


This is the real pict..

https://www.uccronline.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Ratzinger-Joseph-Saluto-vero.jpg

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/the_hitler_youth_pope.jpg

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nazi_catholics_04.jpg

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/faul.jpg

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/hitler-with-muller.jpg

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/vatican46_01.gif

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1006286_10200900449746576_949441260_n.jpg


THE VATICAN HOLOCAUST
https://fbreporter.org/2015/03/11/the-vatican-holocaust/

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 08:21 AM
Maybe like a younger version of this Lebanese actor from Southern Lebanon (which was historically part of Galilee)?

https://dance-on.net/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/rabih-mroue_Foto-Dorothea-Tuch_klein1.jpg

Would make sense indeed. Maybe some Mountaineer looking Jews are close to this.
https://i.ibb.co/99m3TRD/Grigori-Perelman.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/MhXzbLw/Perelmancalle.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Bw3TCgg/th.jpg

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 08:25 AM
Well, depicting such a significant person in the way people can relate to is not quite Nazi or Nordicist.... It's a bit different type of stuff.

I don't like Catholic Church at all, but saying that they were Nordicist Nazis is probably a bit too much. But they probably were cowardish at times. https://abcnews.go.com/International/vatican-open-wwii-archives-pope-pius-xii/story?id=61462841

Northerners who Nordicize Southern Europeans(Greeks and Romans), Egyptian Pharaohs, buddha, Persian Kings, Sumerians and Jesus Christ are same as Nazi Nordicists to me.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 08:27 AM
http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/the_hitler_youth_pope.jpg

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nazi_catholics_04.jpg

THE VATICAN HOLOCAUST
https://fbreporter.org/2015/03/11/the-vatican-holocaust/
And this dude was supposed to replace Jesus on earth... Yeah, well done Catholics. Not to blame a young boy for Nazi crimes, but that whole Pope thing is just stupid. Yes, they Popes say beautiful things sometimes, but giving so much power to one man is just ridiculous. When are you gonna clean up all the sexual abuse mess Catholics, when? You perverts!

FinalFlash
04-24-2019, 08:27 AM
Jesus has always been depicted in the Southern Euro to West Asia range.

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 08:32 AM
http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/the_hitler_youth_pope.jpg

http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/nazi_catholics_04.jpg




Almost every kids in Germany was a member of Hitler Youth...

And in Germany Hitler was a the leader who won democratic elections.. The Catholic Church in Germany could hardly behave differently


Anyway... Saint Paul taught us that everybody could "change"..

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 08:35 AM
Almost every kids in Germany was a member of Hitler Youth...

And in Germany Hitler was a the leader who won democratic elections.. The Catholic Church in Germany could hardly behave differently


Anyway... Saint Paul taught us that everybody could "change"..

Absolutely. And i respect Popes for all the good motivation they give people. But i don't respect the way Catholic Church depicts him as some super human being.

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 08:39 AM
And this dude was supposed to replace Jesus on earth... Yeah, well done Catholics. Not to blame a young boy for Nazi crimes, but that whole Pope thing is just stupid. Yes, they Popes say beautiful things sometimes, but giving so much power to one man is just ridiculous. When are you gonna clean up all the sexual abuse mess Catholics, when? You perverts!



Catholic sexual abuse means homosexual sexual abuse.. Pope Ratzinger made the right thing.. no gay in the seminary.. A gay can't control his perverted istinct.. never...
Don't forget that 90% of the sexual victims of gay priests were/are homosexuals.... Strange relations...

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 08:41 AM
Absolutely. And i respect Popes for all the good motivation they give people. But i don't respect the way Catholic Church depicts him as some super human being.

You are wrong..

Do you know what/which are the Dogmas of Catholic Church ?

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 08:49 AM
Catholic sexual abuse means homosexual sexual abuse.. Pope Ratzinger made the right thing.. no gay in the seminary.. A gay can't control his perverted istinct.. never...
Don't forget that 90% of the sexual victims of gay priests were/are homosexuals.... Strange relations...
Whatever the reason. They should be protecting their kids but they are not even properly digging deep into those scandals. They literally tried to cover the shit up. And this behaviour seems to be quite universal. Even in the US they had issues with exposing all the perverts, because they protected their own people. So it's not only about gays but about protecting own people when they do crimes. Also, i don't actually believe it's all about homosexual behaviour, but about perverted sexuality. Human beings should be allowed to have wives, priests should be allowed to have wives. This is normal thing to do.

You are wrong..

Do you know what/which are the Dogmas of Catholic Church ?

I might be somehow wrong. Pope still has too much authority. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_supremacy

This is very irresponsible as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_HIV/AIDS

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 08:52 AM
http://www.byzantinemuseum.gr/pictures/b_2153_13167.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg

http://digitalschool.minedu.gov.gr/modules/ebook/show.php/DSDIM-E101/160/1118,4111/images/img4_31.jpg

I think Orthodoxs and especially honest Greek Christians can better feel the torment Jesus and his mother passed from the WESTERN Romans and their fellow the Jews.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3jm4Rdo4Pc


Greece pass through hell 'cause of the EU scums. Greeks are the new Jesus. I hope God will give to the Westerners and Northerners the hell they gave us back!





Saint Paisios has prophesied the lost of those who came from the seed of the Crusaders as well as the lost of all Northern Europe by Russian hands! I hope God will make it a reality!


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1136/4188/products/Orthodox_icon_of_St._Paisios_of_Mount_Athos__97230 .1430086348.1000.1200_bec9bb5e-9603-4b53-a232-e2c881533ad3_1024x1024.jpeg?v=1455410323

"First, God will punish the great enemies of Orthodoxy, which are Islamism and Catholicism. Those who are relentlessly striking Orthodoxy will now disappear. Even those who destroyed the Byzantine civilization were not the Turks who destroyed it, they were the crusaders, the Europeans, the Catholics who strengthened the Turks to destroy Byzantium. Their descendants then will be gathered there by God and they will be slaughtered."

Πρώτα θα παιδεύσει ο Θεός τους μεγάλους εχθρούς της Ορθοδοξίας , που είναι ο Ισλαμισμός και ο Καθολικισμός . Αυτοί που αμείλικτα χτυπούν την Ορθοδοξία, τώρα θα εκλείψουν . Ακόμα και αυτοί που κατέστρεψαν τον Βυζαντινό Πολιτισμό δεν είναι οι Τούρκοι που τον κατέστρεψαν, είναι οι σταυροφόροι , οι Ευρωπαίοι , οι καθολικοί που ενίσχυσαν τους Τούρκους για να καταστρέψουν το Βυζάντιο .Τους απογόνους τους , λοιπόν , θα τους μαζέψει ο Θεός εκεί μέσα και θα σφαγούν εκεί.

"And when the friends of Turkey (the descendants of the crusaders) NATO, will come down to help Turks and save them, then there it will be the great Conflict and they will be slaughtered."

Κι όταν κατέβουν οι φίλοι της Τουρκίας (οι απόγονοι δηλαδή των σταυροφόρων ) το ΝΑΤΟ , για να τη σώσουν , τότε εκεί θα γίνει , η μεγάλη Σύρραξη και θα σφαγούν.

https://www.agiosgeorgioshaidarioy.gr/paisiosprofities.html


"In Constantinople, there will be a great war between the Russians and Europeans and a lot of blood will be spilled."

Στην Κων/πολη θα γίνει μεγάλος πόλεμος μεταξύ των Ρώσων και των Ευρωπαίων και θα χυθεί πολύ αίμα.

"But then the other states of Europe, namely England, France, Italy, and six-seven other EU countries, will see that Russia will grab parts, so they will say, "Why don't we go there to get some parts? "Everyone will chase the lion's share. This is how also the Europeans will enter the war ... ..The (Greek)government will decide not to send an army. It will keep the army only at borders. And it will be a great blessing not to take part. Because, whoever will take part in this war (the European) will be lost ... "... 434."

Όμως, θα δουν τότε τα άλλα κράτη της Ευρώπης, συγκεκριμένα η Αγγλία, η Γαλλία, η Ιταλία και άλλα έξι – εφτά κράτη της ΕΟΚ, ότι η Ρωσία θα αρπάξει μέρη, οπότε θα πουν: “Δεν πάμε κι εμείς εκεί πέρα, μήπως πάρουμε κανένα κομμάτι;” Όλοι, όμως θα κυνηγούν τη μερίδα του λέοντος. Έτσι θα μπουν και οι Ευρωπαίοι στον πόλεμο…..Θα βγάλει η (ελληνική) κυβέρνηση απόφαση να μη στείλη στρατό. Θα κρατήσει στρατό μόνο στα σύνορα. Και θα είναι μεγάλη ευλογία που δε θα πάρει μέρος. Γιατί , όποιος πάρει μέρος σ΄ αυτόν τον πόλεμο (εν. τον ευρωπαϊκό), χάθηκε…»… 434.

http://www.agiosxaralampos.gr/profiteies-gerontos-paisioy-b-agios-xaralampos-pater-theofilos/


And for Northern Europe.

"The European Union will be dissolved"

Η ΕυρωπαΙκή Ένωση θα διαλυθεί

"The people of the North will go with the Americans, but the Russians will burn them down"

Οι λαοί του Βορά θα πάνε με τους Αμερικανούς αλλά οι Ρώσοι θα τους κάψουν

https://michalism.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/%CE%B3%CE%AD%CF%81%CE%BF%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%82-%CF%80%CE%B1%CF%8A%CF%83%CE%B9%CE%BF%CF%82-%CE%BF%CE%B9-%CF%80%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%B7%CF%84%CE%B5%CE%AF%C E%B5%CF%82-%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%B9-%CE%B7-%CE%B5-2/

"Everybody will leave Russians and they will go with the Jews of America. The Russians will burn them down"

Όλοι θα παρατήσουν τους Ρώσους και θα πάνε με τους Εβραίους της Αμερικής . Οι Ρώσοι θα τους κάψουν

http://paterpaisios.blogspot.gr/

"Nowadays, people are seeing everything with cunning, because they are all measured by the mind. The European spirit did a lot of evil. That's why people have became like that."

Σήμερα οι άνθρωποι τα βλέπουν όλα με πονηριά, γιατί τα μετρούν όλα μόνο με το μυαλό. Το ευρωπαϊκό πνεύμα πολύ κακό έκανε. Αυτό είναι που σακάτεψε τους ανθρώπους.

https://www.impantokratoros.gr/aplothta-episthmh-morfosh.el.aspx


Great prophecies! Laughs best he who laughs last! Very soon you will see the power of Orthodoxy!


"Saint Paisios exceeds Lenin in popularity"

Ο Άγιος Παΐσιος ξεπερνάει τον Λένιν σε δημοτικότητα

"Now "star" in Russia is monk of the Mount Athos, the Greek Saint (now) Paisios. Books with his speeches and his ascetic life sweep in publishing. Up to now, more than three million copies have been sold, while seven films have been filmed and an eighth is being prepared."

Τώρα "σταρ" είναι στη Ρωσία ένας αγιορείτης μοναχός, ο Έλληνας Άγιος (πλέον) Παΐσιος. Τα βιβλία με τους λόγους του και την ασκητική ζωή του σαρώνουν εκδοτικά. Μέχρι τώρα έχουν πουληθεί περισσότερα από τρία εκατομμύρια αντίτυπα, ενώ έχουν γυριστεί ...εφτά κινηματογραφικές ταινίες και ετοιμάζεται και μια όγδοη.

"Paisios is by far the most popular saint. By thousands the Russian believers flock to pilgrimage outside of Thessaloniki, where Paisios is buried, innumerable stories and testimonies circulate around his life and prophecies."

Ο Παΐσιος είναι μακράν ο πιο δημοφιλής Άγιος. Κατά χιλιάδες συρρέουν οι Ρώσοι πιστοί για προσκύνημα έξω από τη Θεσσαλονίκη, όπου είναι ενταφιασμένος ο Παΐσιος, κυκλοφορούν αναρίθμητες ιστορίες και μαρτυρίες γύρω από τη ζωή και τις προφητείες του.

"The Russians seem to be inspired by the Greek Saint, they feel to give them hope, they believe he is doing miracles."

Ο Ρώσοι δείχνουν να εμπνέονται από τον αγιορείτη Άγιο, αισθάνονται να τους δίνει ελπίδα, πιστεύουν ότι κάνει θαύματα.

http://www.pronews.gr/thriskeia/orthodoxia/652329_o-agios-paisios-xepernaei-ton-lenin-se-dimotikotita



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4qpT_ow3sc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7vvPXz-Qes


Vlad Putin in Greece(Mount Athos)

https://www.briefingnews.gr/sites/default/files/styles/slider__638x287_/public/field/image/kremlin.jpeg?itok=K8Pmwj3B

http://ikivotos.gr/storage/photos/master/201508/poutin-agion-oros-kivotos-t1-1-6-2015.jpg

https://www.ekklisiaonline.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/6cf222e9a52c152ed45ea2958d4bf996.jpg

http://ikivotos.gr/storage/photos/c_950px_624px/201607/agio-oros.jpg


I see something coming!

https://cdn.newspunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/putin-nuclear-war-590x381.png


Ah, they are my angels!

https://www.triklopodia.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/vlantimir-poutin-etoimos-patisei-protos-kokkino-koumpi.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Mc25sAh.jpg


Christ saves they say!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/64/09/25/640925777e5983f80c150c11ba73b6f7.gif

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 08:58 AM
Whatever the reason. They should be protecting their kids but they are not even properly digging deep into those scandals. They literally tried to cover the shit up. And this behaviour seems to be quite universal. Even in the US they had issues with exposing all the perverts, because they protected their own people. So it's not only about gays but about protecting own people when they do crimes. Also, i don't actually believe it's all about homosexual behaviour, but about perverted sexuality. Human beings should be allowed to have wives, priests should be allowed to have wives. This is normal thing to do.


I might be somehow wrong. Pope still has too much authority. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_supremacy

This is very irresponsible as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_HIV/AIDS

Highest number of people with HIV are in Southafrica.. Catholics overthere are a tiny minority..

The Popes listed several ways to combat the spread of HIV....chastity, fidelity in marriage ....

Jesus chose only one to lead the Church ..not a groups of "ministers"...


As i told you.. the real problem of the Catholic Church is the homosexuality of priests...

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 08:59 AM
Greeks are the new Jesus.???????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 09:00 AM
http://www.byzantinemuseum.gr/pictures/b_2153_13167.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg

http://digitalschool.minedu.gov.gr/modules/ebook/show.php/DSDIM-E101/160/1118,4111/images/img4_31.jpg

I think Orthodoxs and especially honest Greek Christians can better feel the torment Jesus passed from the WESTERN Romans and their fellow the Jews.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3jm4Rdo4Pc


Greece pass through hell 'cause of the EU scums. Greeks are the new Jesus. I hope God will give to the Westerners and Northerners the hell they gave us back!

I think Greeks should look in the mirror as well. Corruption is not something you can blame other people for. Same goes for Italians and their corruption, they can blame themselves. Russian issues are pretty much self made too.

However, i know that Greeks had to deal with a lot of shit from Nazis and Turks and here i'm completely with them. I have nothing against Greeks, i love their culture and all the Greeks i have met here in Finland were really nice people. I have a bit of Pontic Greek blood in me myself. Maybe they are not real Greeks since they are more West Asian as far as i know but i like to consider them as real Greeks.

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 09:10 AM
I think Greeks should look in the mirror as well. Corruption is not something you can blame other people for. Same goes for Italians and their corruption, they can blame themselves. Russian issues are pretty much self made too.

However, i know that Greeks had to deal with a lot of shit from Nazis and Turks and here i'm completely with them. I have nothing against Greeks, i love their culture and all the Greeks i have met here in Finland were really nice people. I have a bit of Pontic Greek blood in me myself. Maybe they are not real Greeks since they are more West Asian as far as i know but i like to consider them as real Greeks.


Mussolini: Ruling the Italians is not difficult; it's pointless... Italians are individualists also the comunists are individualist in Italy.. .... They never got along with each other since the fall of the Roman Empire (a dictatorship) .. I don't know what will happen in the coming decades...

This was Italy in the middle age... A city states geographic expression..

https://angelasantoro.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/fac1ce3cdf61c5c20dc1860e19d93ef3.jpg

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 09:11 AM
Greeks are the new Jesus.???????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

https://i.imgur.com/oCKvESm.png

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 09:17 AM
I think Greeks should look in the mirror as well. Corruption is not something you can blame other people for. Same goes for Italians and their corruption, they can blame themselves. Russian issues are pretty much self made too.

We will not get lessons of who is corrupted by Zionist Europeans, their Greek pet policians and people who have signed our condemnation! :picard1:


https://i.imgur.com/S6Fu6zL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/M2zzMsG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1smE5Tp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jRtm66X.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3zj3IRu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GVi2iRN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/asIIt2j.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yevM32v.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/km7V8eP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WmuKOVq.jpg?2

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 09:28 AM
We will not get lessons by Zionist Europeans and their pet Greek policians of who is corrupted! :picard1:


https://i.imgur.com/S6Fu6zL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/M2zzMsG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1smE5Tp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jRtm66X.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3zj3IRu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GVi2iRN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/asIIt2j.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yevM32v.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/km7V8eP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WmuKOVq.jpg?2

You sound like some Russians which is not a good thing at all. What about people like Antonis Kantas stealing money? I would rather be angry at dishonest politics and dishonest people overall. I don't like European Union either, but you have to remember that many European countries (including Finland) literally gave a lot of money in order to help you.

Voskos
04-24-2019, 09:36 AM
@shlomo, what do you mean europeans gave money? The interest rates are over 2% afaik, and were paying it all back. I know grannies here who live on 300 euro/month and from that they also have to pay their personal nurse lol.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 09:37 AM
You sound like some Russians which is not a good thing at all. What about people like Antonis Kantas stealing money? I would rather be angry at dishonest politics and dishonest people overall. I don't like European Union either, but you have to remember that many European countries (including Finland) literally gave a lot of money in order to help you.

Go sell the Zionist fairy tales of "Europeans and EU helping the Greeks and Greeks stealing their money" to someone else, I don't buy! The EU has sucked for 10 years all of our blood, as Nazis did, as Bavarians did, as Crusaders did and as Romans did!


You sound like some Russians which is not a good thing at all.

I sound as a Greek, as a Serb, as a Russian and as any other Orthodox who has faced a war by the West and that's for sure not a god thing for you Westerners spreading the lies of your politicians.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 09:43 AM
@shlomo, what do you mean europeans gave money? The interest rates are over 2% afaik, and were paying it all back. I know grannies here who live on 300 euro/month and from that they also have to pay their personal nurse lol.

We have issues with grannies being underpaid as well. They are not treated the way they deserve.

Finland is losing money in this deal overall. I know that Greece has to pay it back with interest. The thing is, Finland had to take a loan (because of the budget deficit) itself in 2010 in order to help Greece. Either way let's hope Greece will figure it out!

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 09:48 AM
Go sell the Zionist fairy tales of "Europeans and EU helping the Greeks and Greeks stealing their money" to someone else, I don't buy! The EU has sucked for 10 years all of our blood, as Nazis did, as Bavarians did, as Crusaders did and as Romans did!



I sound as a Greek, as a Serb, as a Russian and as any other Orthodox who has faced a war by the West and that's for sure not a god thing for you Westerners spreading the lies of your politicians.

Do you really think that ordinary Russian men care about Orthodox faith? Many of them are still Communists deep down in their heart and they would trade any church for the Soviet rule. They still have that nostalgia. Also, they don't care about other people to be honest. Look what is happening in Ukraine, they attacked that country, just like they attacked Finland, Baltics and anything they could. If you Greeks choose to follow their tactics you will become the same soulless swamp full of corruption.

Voskos
04-24-2019, 09:49 AM
EU solidarity= saving the banks by taxing the grannies.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 09:49 AM
We have issues with grannies being underpaid as well. They are not treated the way they deserve.

Finland is losing money in this deal overall. I know that Greece has to pay it back with interest. The thing is, Finland had to take a loan (because of the budget deficit) itself in 2010 in order to help Greece. Either way let's hope Greece will figure it out!

No one is helping Greeks, that's what they feed you, only politicians and their servants get all money, Greeks become more and more poor and half of Greece's population composed right now by 3rd world immigrants. All this for becoming member of your Jewropean Union.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 09:53 AM
Do you really think that ordinary Russian men care about Orthodox faith? Many of them are still Communists deep down in their heart and they would trade any church for the Soviet rule. They still have that nostalgia. Also, they don't care about other people to be honest. Look what is happening in Ukraine, they attacked that country, just like they attacked Finland, Baltics and anything they could. If you Greeks to choose follow their tactics you will become the same soulless swamp full of corruption.

"Corrupted, Communist and non-Orthodox Russians, good Ukrainian Nazis, corrupted Greeks", lol, EU, Nazi, anti-Orthodox rhetoric. No need to say anything more about. :bored:


Same a Jesus, they crucified him for a scammer!

21993
04-24-2019, 09:54 AM
He was most probably Dinarid-Arabid intermediate just like most of the Levant people but I might be wrong.

FinalFlash
04-24-2019, 09:55 AM
Jesus is from the far north.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 09:59 AM
"Corrupted, Communist and non-Orthodox Russians, good Ukrainian Nazis, corrupted Greeks", lol, EU, Nazi, anti-Orthodox rhetoric. No need to say anything more about. :bored:

Open your eyes dude. I'm not here to defend those Ukrainians who are Nazis (they are pretty antisemitic just like you are by the way) but simply pointing out on the fact that they attack other countries. Should they attack Greece too because you have some Nazis? Eh? Russians have much more Nazis than Ukrainians ever will. You can love Russia as much as you like, we just can't do the same. We like prosperity, technology and human rights. We don't like HIV epidemics [1], raping Russian animals in the army [2] and Pisa towers (they call them Hruschovkas).

[1] https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/06/russia-s-hivaids-epidemic-getting-worse-not-better
[2] http://www.pravdareport.com/society/87441-army_prostitute/

That being said Russians are just like other people (despite their slave minded mentality) and their country has produced great amount of writers and composers. Great writers and composers just won't help if your politicians are full of shit sucking all the oil money and leaving stuff undeveloped, you know.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 10:04 AM
He was most probably Dinarid-Arabid intermediate just like most of the Levant people but I might be wrong.

Something close to this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi_(Leonardo)

21993
04-24-2019, 10:19 AM
Something close to this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi_(Leonardo)

Most probably

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 10:19 AM
Open your eyes dude. I'm not here defending those Ukrainians who are Nazis (they are pretty antisemitic just like you are by the way) but simply pointing out on the fact that they attack other countries.

You cannot tell me what I am, same distorting rhetoric as Zionist and anti-Orthodox/anti-North Eastern/anti-South Eastern nonsense. I am so "anti-semite" as those Jews are https://www.google.gr/search?q=anti-zionist+jews&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG8vrdvejhAhV1xMQBHTVaCKwQ_AUIDigB&biw=1280&bih=751


Should they attack Greece too because you have some Nazis?

Greek Nazis are not even the 0,1% of the Greek population.


Eh? Russians have much more Nazis than Ukrainians ever will. You can love Russia as much as you like, we just can't do the same. We like prosperity, technology and human rights. We don't like HIV epidemics [1], raping Russian animals in the army [2] and Pisa towers (they call them Hruschovkas).

[1] https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/06/russia-s-hivaids-epidemic-getting-worse-not-better
[2] http://www.pravdareport.com/society/87441-army_prostitute/

Ukrainian goverment is Nazi, Russian goverment is not.
https://www.google.gr/search?ei=AzbAXLeELsqQmwX05JmwDw&q=ukrainian+goverment+is+nazi+&oq=ukrainian+goverment+is+nazi+&gs_l=psy-ab.3...12851.18469..19444...0.0..0.231.911.0j5j1.. ....0....1j2..gws-wiz.......0i10.mEAoVds5Whw


Russians can better answer your hate posts towards them but I think they can perfectly explained by this https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ussr-attacks-finland and this https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/23/why-finland-allied-itself-with-nazi-germany


Russians are not commies anymore, you better wake up.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 10:25 AM
Russians can better answer your hate posts towards them but I think they can perfectly explained by this https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ussr-attacks-finland and this https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/23/why-finland-allied-itself-with-nazi-germany


Russians are not commies anymore, you better wake up.

Do you really think you know more about Russians than me, who actually has Russian blood in his veins? Here some reading for you. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/22/stalins-record-approval-rating-is-a-sign-of-growing-discontent-a65332

And yes, you are right. Finland didn't like when Stalin came to "rescue his brother commies" attacking completely innocent land. Putin is doing the same thing helping his Russian loving slaves in Ukraine. Who is he gonna rescue next i wonder?

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 10:33 AM
Do you really think you know more about Russians than me, who actually has Russian blood in his veins? Here some reading for you. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/22/stalins-record-approval-rating-is-a-sign-of-growing-discontent-a65332

And yes, you are right. Finland didn't like when Stalin came to "rescue his brother commies" attacking completely innocent land. Putin is doing the same thing helping his Russian loving slaves in Ukraine. Who is he gonna rescue next i wonder?

Yes, I know better Russians than biased Russian hater Finns. :bored:

What's next, we will trust biased Germans talking about Russians? Lol!

No need talking about it anymore.

Vojnik
04-24-2019, 10:33 AM
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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/92/28/e792289ba0cb8a9b424d4a85ffb79012.jpg

Chinese depiction of Jesus:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/14/ad/e314ad74c02af048943fa325c6ccf13a.jpg

Japanese depiction of Jesus:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/a3/3c/5ea33c7c35e01d3cb2fa3f3ba67508cb.jpg



The point is, every race and ethnic group depicts Jesus to reflect the way they look themselves. And it is fine to do so. So to answer the question whether that depiction of Jesus is too northern, then the answer is no. Northern Europeans also worship Jesus, so it's fine for them to depict Jesus as a man who looks like them. Just as the way Asians and Africans do it.

Here is a generic Eastern Orthodox depiction of Jesus:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/da/88/80da883720f8ec24ed054cf5336d9b9c.jpgg

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 10:40 AM
Yes, I know better Russians than biased Russian hater Finns. :bored:

What's next, we will trust biased Germans talking about Russians? Lol!

No need talking about it anymore.

Yes, go and laugh at people disliking attacking Russians but act very dramatic when talking about other people attacking your land...

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 10:41 AM
Jesus depicted in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church:

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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/92/28/e792289ba0cb8a9b424d4a85ffb79012.jpg

Chinese depiction of Jesus:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e3/14/ad/e314ad74c02af048943fa325c6ccf13a.jpg

Japanese depiction of Jesus:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/a3/3c/5ea33c7c35e01d3cb2fa3f3ba67508cb.jpg



The point is, every race and ethnic group depicts Jesus to reflect the way they look themselves. And it is fine to do so. So to answer the question whether that depiction of Jesus is too northern, then the answer is no. Northern Europeans also worship Jesus, so it's fine for them to depict Jesus as a man who looks like them. Just as the way Asians and Africans do it.

Here is a generic Eastern Orthodox depiction of Jesus:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/da/88/80da883720f8ec24ed054cf5336d9b9c.jpgg

Real Jesus probably looked more like Serj Tankian.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 10:49 AM
Yes, go and laugh at people disliking attacking Russians but act very dramatic when talking about other people attacking your land...

The whole situation between the West and the Orthodox Nort East/South East is dramatic, let God decide of who's right and of who's wrong, everything will very soon be over, that's something you can trust. :pope: :fpope:

arkas
04-24-2019, 10:54 AM
Oldest depictions of Jesus
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSrBAV1scxHrVipcS-zoYaNHwIRjF3UCasOsBlkfhNP7RBmadb1
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSpmYDPL5-O_Ga-COUbRAAimuPKNeNKc-7q4dIC4p8Oaao6JFcC
Jesus was mostly likely an Orientalid in phenotype, long face and nose kind of look.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 10:56 AM
The whole situation between the West and the Orthodox Nort East/South East is dramatic, let God decide of who's right and of who's wrong, everything will very soon be over, that's something you can trust. :pope: :fpope:

Something we can all trust is that hungry lower demon realm entities/ undeveloped Russians won't cross the border with heads on their shoulders. Soviets got their ass beaten by Finns, Russians got their ass beaten by people in Kavkaz and now they are pretending to be tough soldiers. How scary. Do you seriously think that undeveloped Orthodox countries like Russia, Serbia and Greece could do something?

https://i.ibb.co/3fpX78q/a9d-O90-Z-700b.jpg

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 11:02 AM
Bulgarian

https://skete.com/wp-content/uploads/J88lg.jpg

Romanian

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/paint-representing-jesus-christ-romania-th-july-visiting-monastery-sihastria-38516776.jpg

Russian

https://media.gettyimages.com/illustrations/jesus-christ-russian-icon-tempera-on-panel-13th-century-illustration-id147862762

Serbian

http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/icons/data/icxc.gif

Greek

https://i.etsystatic.com/10946067/r/il/8b4f48/1577336873/il_794xN.1577336873_gfes.jpg

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 11:04 AM
Oldest depictions of Jesus
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSrBAV1scxHrVipcS-zoYaNHwIRjF3UCasOsBlkfhNP7RBmadb1
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSpmYDPL5-O_Ga-COUbRAAimuPKNeNKc-7q4dIC4p8Oaao6JFcC
Jesus was mostly likely an Orientalid in phenotype, long face and nose kind of look.

This one looks quite close to that one in the OP, just with a bit darker skin tone.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 11:08 AM
Something we can all trust is that hungry lower demon realm entities/ undeveloped Russians won't cross the border with heads on their shoulders. Soviets got their ass beaten by Finns, Russians got their ass beaten by people in Kavkaz and now they are pretending to be tough soldiers. How scary. Do you seriously think that undeveloped Orthodox countries like Russia, Serbia and Greece could do something?

https://i.ibb.co/3fpX78q/a9d-O90-Z-700b.jpg


Do you seriously think that undeveloped Orthodox countries like Russia, Serbia and Greece could do something?

I already told what I think, your west in the near future will become a nuked hole! Be as much arrogant as you want, not my business!

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 11:10 AM
Language and figure of Christ by Constantine Plevris(2003)


https://hilektron.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/glossa-morfi-xristou.jpg


A very nice book by Constantine Plevris.

http://www.makeleio.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/pleyris.jpg


It explains why Jesus and Galileans were Greeks using historical facts.

Jesus, Greek and European, who used Greek as a mother language.

Read it here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/189759360/%CE%93%CE%9B%CE%A9%CE%A3%CE%A3%CE%91-%CE%9A%CE%91%CE%99-%CE%9C%CE%9F%CE%A1%CE%A6%CE%97-%CE%A4%CE%9F%CE%A5-%CE%A7%CE%A1%CE%99%CE%A3%CE%A4%CE%9F%CE%A5#scribd


It would be good for you to translated it(copy/paste), especially chapter 8 "The figure of Christ".


https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/60h99k7y8037hnz5/images/105-ed0a44faac.jpg
Jesus Christ by Leonardo da Vinci.

https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/60h99k7y8037hnz5/images/107-21870894c2.jpg
"The kiss of Judas" Giotto, Scrovegni Chapel, Padua, Italy.


Aryan profile and not Semitic, with a Greek leptorrhine nose Constantine Plevris notes.


https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/60h99k7y8037hnz5/images/108-bae6f80bf6.jpg
Jesus and Pontius Pilate, Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 11:12 AM
I already told what I think, your west in the near future will become a nuked hole! Be as much arrogant as you want, not my business!

This is exactly what undeveloped frogs do, they threaten people when they feel emotionally uncomfortable. You literally sound like some Russian bum. Go and nuke everything or rather nuke yourself and make world a better place to live. You do know that the West is actually developing new medicine and stuff your grannies will need in the near future. The only thing dictatorships can develop is shitty nukes and HIV epidemics. You see the difference.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 11:14 AM
Language and figure of Christ by Constantine Plevris(2003)


https://hilektron.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/glossa-morfi-xristou.jpg


A very nice book by Constantine Plevris.

http://www.makeleio.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/pleyris.jpg


It explains why Jesus and Galileans were Greeks using historical facts.

Jesus, Greek and European, who used Greek as a mother language.

Read it here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/189759360/%CE%93%CE%9B%CE%A9%CE%A3%CE%A3%CE%91-%CE%9A%CE%91%CE%99-%CE%9C%CE%9F%CE%A1%CE%A6%CE%97-%CE%A4%CE%9F%CE%A5-%CE%A7%CE%A1%CE%99%CE%A3%CE%A4%CE%9F%CE%A5#scribd


It would be good for you to translated it(copy/paste), especially chapter 8 "The figure of Christ".


https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/60h99k7y8037hnz5/images/105-ed0a44faac.jpg
Jesus Christ by Leonardo da Vinci.

https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/60h99k7y8037hnz5/images/107-21870894c2.jpg
"The kiss of Judas" Giotto, Scrovegni Chapel, Padua, Italy.


Aryan profile and not Semitic, with a Greek leptorrhine nose Constantine Plevris notes.


https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/60h99k7y8037hnz5/images/108-bae6f80bf6.jpg
Jesus and Pontius Pilate, Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio

This man does not look Greek (or maybe he does a bit but you can say he looks Italian as well)! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi_(Leonardo)

Dude please stop embarrassing yourself. Jesus was a Jewish male who was born in Bethlehem.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 11:15 AM
Lol at the Germanic or Semitic/Arabid Jesus dilemma! :1127:

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 11:26 AM
This man does not look Greek! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi_(Leonardo)

Dude please stop embarrassing yourself. Jesus was a Jewish male who was born in Bethlehem.

You cannot tell to me you anti-Orthodox Finn what looks Greeks and what does not looks Greek. You embarrass the Finns by selling us your nonsense. Jews are your European Union politicians not God. You better Nordicize trolls who are part of your tradition and leave Jesus alone you Viking. :bored:

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 11:31 AM
You cannot tell to me you anti-Orthodox Finn what looks Greeks and what does not looks Greek. You embarrass the Finns by selling us your nonsense. Jews are your European Union politicians not God. You better Nordicize trolls who are part of your tradition and leave Jesus alone you Viking. :bored:

I'm not anti Orthodox, i'm anti dictatorship. Also i do know how Greeks look and i have Mediterranean in me as well. I would also add that Finns are not Vikings despite having some Scandinavian in me. Never praised European Union and never claimed to be a Nordicist. But talking to you is useless. You live in some strange Greek bubble. Corrupted bubble i would say.

I think we already spoke our minds. Let's not take it further. Let's agree to disagree.

Let's enjoy this song together. As humanity. I agree that Greeks are closer to Jews, they are Mediterranean with Middle Eastern vibes in their culture. A little bit less antisemitic if you were, would be easier to like you. But great art have you produced. Keep on going!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU86mkVeKPs

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 11:49 AM
I'm not anti Orthodox, i'm anti dictatorship. Also i do know how Greeks look and i have Mediterranean in me as well. I would also add that Finns are not Vikings despite having some Scandinavian in me. Never praised European Union and never claimed to be a Nordicist. But talking to you is useless. You live in some strange Greek bubble. Corrupted bubble i would say.

Corrupted is your Finland for offering to Greeks poverty and along with all other EU scums stealing all of our money for 10 years, destroying Greece and fulling us with out-law immigrants from all over the planet. I didn't expect anything better from you anyway, philo-Nazi, philo-EU Zionist, anti-Orthodox, anti-Russian or whatever you are. Bye bye.

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 11:54 AM
Corrupted is your Finland for offering to Greeks poverty and along with all other EU scums stealing all of our money for 10 years, destroying Greece and fulling us with out-law immigrants from all over the planet. I didn't expect anything better from you anyway, philo-Nazi, philo-EU Zionist, anti-Orthodox, anti-Russian or whatever you are. Bye bye.

This is simply not true. Your own politicians have to take responsibility for what they do. If they commit tax frauds and steal money (like Antonis Kantas did), you can't blame Nazis or the European Union for that. You have to take responsibility as well.

Roy
04-24-2019, 12:17 PM
Yes, obviously. Jesus has been a popular object of the Nordic-fetish.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wDr71RVg9U4/WaM-r9s4mkI/AAAAAAAABHA/J_6fTm9S1HAalZ_HlQdQYKWhhhnHCMuZgCLcBGAs/s1600/jesus-620x412.jpg.

renaissance12
04-24-2019, 12:55 PM
. We like prosperity, technology and human rights. We don't like HIV epidemics [1], raping Russian animals in the army [2] and Pisa towers (they call them Hruschovkas).



What do you mean: Pisa Towers ?

Nassbean
04-24-2019, 01:09 PM
Jesus probably looked like modern christian palestinians

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 01:14 PM
Jesus probably looked like modern christian palestinians

Or some Mountaineers and Lebanese people...

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 04:37 PM
Let's enjoy this song together. As humanity. I agree that Greeks are closer to Jews, they are Mediterranean with Middle Eastern vibes in their culture. A little bit less antisemitic if you were, would be easier to like you. But great art have you produced. Keep on going!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU86mkVeKPs

That's a nice Hellenic song with Hellenic music and Hellenic lyrics, nothing Middle Eastern about besides the very beginning, there are other kinds of music having Middle Eastern influences though. Greeks are Europeans unlike Finns who are a mongoloid people. It's very nice Greeks to have Middle Eastern infuences in their culture, both ancient Greeks and Byzantine Greeks had too, much better than having Asian-Mongoloid elements as Finns have. I only am anti-semitic in your philo-zionist mind and in your fantasy, Palestinians and other West Asians are Semites but I never expressed anything against them. If anti-zionism to you is anti-semitism they I am so much of an anti-semite as the anti-zionist Jews I posted are. I don't care if you like me and Greeks or not, lol!

Jews are close to Greeks and Italians 'cause they have mixed so much with us that they are half Europeans http://archhades.blogspot.com/2015/05/european-ancestry-in-ashkenazi-jews-is.html they have a great percentage of Greek admixture from Philistine Cretans and Sea Peoples(West Asia Minor Greeks) as well most probably by Romans. Greeks and Italians have connections with Jews, Finns have none.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 05:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Md6UwQy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yeylKDk.jpg

https://www.sakketosaggelos.gr/Images/Uploaded/image002(8850).jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1L6qC42RdR4/V_zkG1nU6CI/AAAAAAAAsyk/4-R08X8CvZIk5nd2DMkCgumi56j5QagMwCLcB/s1600/4.jpg

"Now that even the Greeks came to me, time has come to be glorified the son of man, only Greece gives birth to humans, a heavenly plant and divine shoot and this verified. (Greece) giving birth to Calculus (syllogism) assumed ownership of Science."

Jesus Christ meeting the Greek proselytes. Eusebius of Pamphile, Bishop of Caesarea, in the Gospel reading of John (chapter.12, verse 20-23)

Eusebius of Caesarea, Praeparatio evangelica, Book 8 chapter 14section 66 line 7


Keep these words of Jesus in mind

"only Greece gives birth to humans"


Thanks Jesus for saying the truth, all humanity during those times looked like a zoo compared to Greeks. :)

Óttar
04-24-2019, 05:16 PM
No one bats an eye when Buddha is depicted as Chinese or Japanese when he was clearly born in Nepal/NE India.

smurph
04-24-2019, 05:23 PM
Seeing how Jesus was God's son and we don't actually know his yDNA, then there's no tellin.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 06:00 PM
Yes, obviously. Jesus has been a popular object of the Nordic-fetish.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wDr71RVg9U4/WaM-r9s4mkI/AAAAAAAABHA/J_6fTm9S1HAalZ_HlQdQYKWhhhnHCMuZgCLcBGAs/s1600/jesus-620x412.jpg.

South Europeans usually are the obstacle for Nordicist claiming evrything as Nordic or MENA.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/14/c5/b914c562a5886cb411af8211c9abab16.jpg


Heil Hilter, Sieg Heil und Nordtardismus

https://i.imgur.com/YB4XvLN.jpg

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 06:09 PM
Yes, obviously. Jesus has been a popular object of the Nordic-fetish.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wDr71RVg9U4/WaM-r9s4mkI/AAAAAAAABHA/J_6fTm9S1HAalZ_HlQdQYKWhhhnHCMuZgCLcBGAs/s1600/jesus-620x412.jpg.

This is probably a bit too stretched depiction of Jesus. Like someone already mentioned, some Lebanese could be a good example of how ancient Jews looked like.
https://dance-on.net/en/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/rabih-mroue_Foto-Dorothea-Tuch_klein1.jpg

Methuselah
04-24-2019, 06:16 PM
That's a nice Hellenic song with Hellenic music and Hellenic lyrics, nothing Middle Eastern about besides the very beginning, there are other kinds of music having Middle Eastern influences though. Greeks are Europeans unlike Finns who are a mongoloid people. It's very nice Greeks to have Middle Eastern infuences in their culture, both ancient Greeks and Byzantine Greeks had too, much better than having Asian-Mongoloid elements as Finns have. I only am anti-semitic in your philo-zionist mind and in your fantasy, Palestinians and other West Asians are Semites but I never expressed anything against them. If anti-zionism to you is anti-semitism they I am so much of an anti-semite as the anti-zionist Jews I posted are. I don't care if you like me and Greeks or not, lol!

Jews are close to Greeks and Italians 'cause they have mixed so much with us that they are half Europeans http://archhades.blogspot.com/2015/05/european-ancestry-in-ashkenazi-jews-is.html they have a great percentage of Greek admixture from Philistine Cretans and Sea Peoples(West Asia Minor Greeks) as well most probably by Romans. Greeks and Italians have connections with Jews, Finns have none.

I have nothing against Greeks, just breathe and let it go. And i do agree that having Middle Eastern influences is a bit more fascinating than having Asian-Mongoloid elements. I just don't agree that being Southern European makes you better than Northern Europeans. I think all people are equal.

I would still advice to be i little bit more critical of your own mentality. You know you can't put the blame on other people all the time if you have some Greek politicians like Antonis Kantas stealing money. Be man enough to accept your own failures as well. Also, stop owning Jesus as he was Greek, because Jesus is Jewish and not Greek. Just like Volvo is not Greek or Nokia is not Greek. Some things are not Greek and you have to accept it, it will make you stronger.

Hellenas
04-24-2019, 06:22 PM
I have nothing against Greeks, just breathe and let it go. And i do agree that having Middle Eastern influences is a bit more fascinating than having Asian-Mongoloid elements. I just don't agree that being Southern European makes you better than Northern Europeans. I think all people are equal.

Equality is fake, there never was equality among people and there will never be. History proves who's superior and who's is not. Northerners proved superior to many people and races, thanks to their Roman and Byzantine teachers and the freedom they had for centuries.


I would still advice to be i little bit more critical of your own mentality. You know you can't put the blame on other people all the time if you have some Greek politicians like Antonis Kantas stealing money. Be man enough to accept your own failures as well.

Failure of what? For having pet/traitor zionist controlled politicians taking the loans from the EU Jewish banks and charging the debit on stupid citizens who now suffer from poverty while German banks drink their blood in huge beer glasses? Have you ever heard the word usury?


https://i.redd.it/h8t3zfytov921.jpg


It's a usual Jewish job.

Read the Merchant of Venice.

https://study.com/cimages/videopreview/videopreview-full/screenshot1_113034.jpg


I am not saying all Jews are evil, but there is great evil among Jews. As Jesus said "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."


Besides the flood of out-law immigrant in North Western Europe(the rapes, killings, thefts, terrorist attacks etc), I heard in tv news that house rents increased up to 1.500 euro in Germany, now it's time you to suffer and it's not going to stop!



Also, stop owning Jesus as he was Greek, because Jesus is Jewish and not Greek. Just like Volvo is not Greek or Nokia is not Greek. Some things are not Greek and you have to accept it, it will make you stronger.

You will not stop me by saying anything I might believe. I can't be sure Jesus was of Greek origin, I hope he was though.

Hellenas
04-26-2019, 11:36 AM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSpmYDPL5-O_Ga-COUbRAAimuPKNeNKc-7q4dIC4p8Oaao6JFcC
Jesus was mostly likely an Orientalid in phenotype, long face and nose kind of look.

Mostly likely you know nothing concerning South-East Europid phenotypes. This is not orientalid, this is South-East European Mediterranid. This Eastern Roman/Byzantine icon "The Pantocrator" is dating from the sixth century AD. A possible imperial gift of Justinian I (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Mosaic_of_Justinianus_I_-_Basilica_San_Vitale_%28Ravenna%29.jpg/800px-Mosaic_of_Justinianus_I_-_Basilica_San_Vitale_%28Ravenna%29.jpg) and it is generally believed to have been produced in the Byzantine capital of Constantinople.


The Cretan Giorgos Samaras reminds the Byzantine Jesus Pantocrator


https://i.imgur.com/7ruOmtE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eVo5iTS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wM5MVC6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/abDHyU1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TYUGYzh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dGItYuj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0XOGscR.jpg



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-G7rcdn2JmdY/U5Nirp3hGeI/AAAAAAAABGQ/Vrn_OSDo8xc/s1600/stibbe+types.png

Hellenas
04-26-2019, 12:05 PM
There are many reconstructions, this one shows a Mediterranean.

https://i.imgur.com/qGy8Pup.jpg

itilvolga
04-26-2019, 12:17 PM
That is how i imagine him mainly
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR2qEQ9ehq1OMny6fi3mUVT6yVvp7I V9hfwAjs4Zc1sGdTfqZn9

Nazarene
04-26-2019, 12:25 PM
Jesus was not related biologically to anyone but according to tradition he looks quite Levantine.

Tigranes
04-26-2019, 12:28 PM
Jesus was not relater biologically to anyone but according to tradition he looks quite Levantine.

Jesus was a Serbian.

Nazarene
04-26-2019, 12:29 PM
Jesus was a Serbian.

Serbs are Middle Eastern lol.

Roy
04-26-2019, 01:10 PM
That is how i imagine him mainly
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR2qEQ9ehq1OMny6fi3mUVT6yVvp7I V9hfwAjs4Zc1sGdTfqZn9
What do Muslims think about Jesus? Obviously they don't see him as a God and their saviour but he is supposedly quite important for them like a prophet. I know they call him a Muslim. :coffee:

renaissance12
04-29-2019, 07:02 AM
That is how i imagine him mainly
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR2qEQ9ehq1OMny6fi3mUVT6yVvp7I V9hfwAjs4Zc1sGdTfqZn9

I agree