Maps of Immigration Brazil

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Around 10.5-11.5 milion people moved their lifes to Brazil along the history:

7 milion european mainly iberians, italians and germans.
3-4 milion africans were forced to came here.
343.000 japaneses
300.000 lebaneses

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SOME WIKIPEDIA NUMBERS:

Main groups of settlers and immigrants in Brazil
Origin Population[48]
Africans (1550–1850) 3,000,000
Portuguese (1500-1822) 800,000
Portuguese, post-independence (1837–1968) 1,766,771
Italians (1836–1968) 1,620,344
Spaniards (1841–1968) 719,555
Japanese (1908–1968) 343,441
Russians (1871–1968) 319,215
Lebanese (1871–1968) 300,246
Germans (1836–1968) 240,457
Austrians (1868–1968) 198,457
Polish (1892–1968) 154,078
French (1842–1968) 150,341
Romanians (1908–1968) 140,799
Americans (1884–1968) 98,934
English (1847–1968) 78,080
Lithuanians (1920–1963) 69,002
Yugoslavs (1920–1968) 67,726
Argentines (1884–1968) 55,553
Syrians (1892–1968) 54,394
Swiss (1820–1968) 51,704
Greeks (1893–1968) 46,684
Dutch (1884–1968) 45,829
Hungarians (1908–1968) 43,592
Uruguayans (1884–1968) 40,836
Belgians (1847–1968) 39,173
Chinese (1895–1968) 17,996
Swedes (1853–1968) 17,994
Czechs (1920–1968) 16,538
Danes (1886–1968) 14,029
Jordanians (1953–1968) 13,567
Estonians (1923–1961) 12,803
Koreans (1956–1968) 12,500
Egyptians (1895–1968) 12,283
Paraguayans (1886–1968) 12,271
Canadians (1925–1968) 11,631
Peruvians (1885–1968) 11,600
Ukrainians (1920–1967) 11,415
Norwegians (1888–1968) 11,136
Venezuelans (1886–1968) 11,076
Finns (1819–1968) 9,992
Iranians (1922–1968) 6,735
Bulgarians (1908–1968) 6,557
Luxembourgian (1919–1968) 6,473
Australians (1946–1968) 920
Irish (1940/1968) 876
Scottish (1945/1961) 776

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White percentage among states
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Main Countries where people did the wrong emmigration choice, just joking or maybe not haha...
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Main South Americans authorized to work in Brazil. Brazils leftist goverment of 1989-2018 did not estimate ilegal immigrants. Mainly Bolivians who are 200.000 in Sao Paulo.
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Japaneses shipyard propaganda. Im so sorry for them...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTg-XViEAal-DVrkKWcYAPjg5BY2CBJL_QitJgDqnyKCI80eZFC

Immigrant statistics

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/source_images/CP-Brazil2018-F1-trans.png

https://images.app.goo.gl/ixWfyXdNRfq1KfbEA
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Why they did not chose USA or Australia instead lol? Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Uruguay, Cuba and Venezuela tricked many people generations and descendants. TRAP COUNTRIES DETECTED!

PS: Im so sorry to ruined this serious thread with those trap things... I just could not not control me, but I admire my country and most european descendants too, but we know the imperfections of our nation and people still loves it... we just like to talk bad things about Brazil between us... I should had wrote the bad things in portuguese lol

To demonstrate that, unlike white americans, white brazilians consider themselves brazilian and only brazilian : )

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Other statistics

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/migration-brazil-making-multicultural-society

[Chaos One]

Chinese (1895–1968) 17,996

This one easily surpass 100000 nowadays.

Koreans (1956–1968) 12,500

Have more than 50000 only in São Paulo and are always welcomed at my home city.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Chinese (1895–1968) 17,996

This one easily surpass 100000 nowadays.

Koreans (1956–1968) 12,500

Have more than 50000 only in São Paulo and are always welcomed at my home city.

They have even their own Mafias in Sao Paulo. Its terrible.

[Chaos One]

They have even their own Mafias in Sao Paulo. Its terrible.

That will happen anywhere and this is far from a problem if we compare what they do vs. typical brazilian narcos. Plus, you'll neve perceive their mafia since they make things only within them. The only real problem with some Koreans was the slavery related to Bolivians which is almost gone now.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Moving on...

Modern Day legal immigrants by state
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The climate of our New Continent! Now europeans, africans and japaneses have a new home with enormous climate diversity.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Julia_Lucchese/publication/318836464/figure/fig4/AS:522634682802176@1501617226991/Figura-5-Mapa-climatico-Koeppen-Geiger-da-America-do-Sul-Mato-Grosso-do-Sul-em.png

Our climate and forests more detailed
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Climate_of_Brazil.tif/lossless-page1-420px-Climate_of_Brazil.tif.png

We are not homogeneously dispersed across this continental country. Brazilians live in the purple states, they are the most crowded.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Brazilian_States_by_Population_density.svg/1163px-Brazilian_States_by_Population_density.svg.png

People racial dispersion across the country
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Density of this country(where people lives)
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Racial division, but of course milions of white brazilians can live in the orange region and also milions of pardos can live in the green area.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRZ25xL5OXwm4Hg7gE_AskenCjrVds ImovvPQUsWC0mtB9Xst9F

[Erronkari]

Super interessante (menos quando você fala mal dos meus paises Uruguai e Argentina... mas ok)!!!
Eu imaginei que paraguaios ou bolivianos seriam os mais frequentes em alguns Estados, mas parece que não.
Impressiona sim o fato que os cubanos sejam a maior diáspora em algúns.
Ótimo trabalho, amigo!

[KMack]

Americans move to the German states?

[Bolsonaro2018]

Super interessante!!!
Eu imaginei que paraguaios ou bolivianos seriam os mais frequentes em alguns Estados, mas parece que não.
Impressiona sim o fato que os cubanos sejam a maior diáspora em algúns.
Ótimo trabalho, amigo!

I guess it is about legal immigrants.

Bolivia is the main group in most of these states, from Mid-West to South, but most are illegal.

Same for Venezuelans in Roraima, they are already 200,000 (Roraima state has only 500,000 inhabitants), so no way Spanish is the main group there.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Polemic information
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Polemic art: Redenção de Can. This social painting represents Brazils Empire and Old Republic where a black grandmother is thanking God for her grandson being a result of her mulata daughter(half black/half portuguese) and the italian husband. Its the whitening of the family! Unlike USA, Brazil politicians incentivated the miscigenation of people from Europe with the poor mixed population. That was considered a severe racial error by some nations, racist sociologists also considered a example of how a country with a bright future can deny and ruin their civilization progress. Others considered Brazil Empire was just wasting tons of euro blood. But many others called it a wise decision of an already lost country. Of course all this people would be considered very racist today, since we have sucessfull very non white countries like Chile and Panama doing better than the euro influenced ones of Latin America.

Redenção de Can, Can's Redenption.
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Anyway, right or wrong... that was the result. Our mixed people, called pardos, are very euro influenced and can produce white kids like the little Neymar son. But in Brazil we still have persons that dont wanna to mixture with pardos and they are not rare.
http://www.frontiersin.org/files/Articles/6959/fphar-01-00118-HTML/image_m/fphar-01-00118-g001.jpg

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Super interessante (menos quando você fala mal dos meus paises Uruguai e Argentina... mas ok)!!!
Eu imaginei que paraguaios ou bolivianos seriam os mais frequentes em alguns Estados, mas parece que não.
Impressiona sim o fato que os cubanos sejam a maior diáspora em algúns.
Ótimo trabalho, amigo!

Kkkkkkkkkkkk foi mal, mas vc sabe q eu adoro a Argentina e o Uruguai. Tb amo o Brasil, mas é pq acho que NOSSA parte do mundo tem uma vibe meio falida msm. Vamos torcer que o Bolsonaro e o Macri mudem isso rsrs.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

I guess it is about legal immigrants.

Bolivia is the main group in most of these states, from Mid-West to South, but most are illegal.

Same for Venezuelans in Roraima, they are already 200,000 (Roraima state has only 500,000 inhabitants), so no way Spanish is the main group there.

Its exactly that, thanks!

[Bolsonaro2018]

Americans move to the German states?

I would say it is the opposite, americans usually prefer the most african states like Bahia or Rio de Janeiro.

They are usually tourists who loved the place and decided to stay.

Just an example, from Nevada, a couple decided to stay in Salvador and this video is about their family visiting them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refOS9lmmBs

[Erronkari]

Kkkkkkkkkkkk foi mal, mas vc sabe q eu adoro a Argentina e o Uruguai. Tb amo o Brasil, mas é pq acho que NOSSA parte do mundo tem uma vibe meio falida msm. Vamos torcer que o Bolsonaro e o Macri mudem isso rsrs.

Haha, fica tranquilo amigo!! :p
Eu só estava trollando. Não sou tão sério como posso parecer. Tudo legal! ;)

[Bolsonaro2018]

Cubans in Brazil are mainly linked to medical services in remote areas where Brazilian doctors "refused" to go.

Americans are usually expatriates, but a lot of fixed residents as well, mainly tourists who decided to stay. I don't think these americans are of brazilian families, otherwise Minas Gerais should be named with Americans instead of Chinese.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are immigrants who lives in their own communities, Chinese and Koreans work mainly in the tertiary sector of the economy, Japanese mainly in the first sector.

English in ES should be fixed residents, same for Portuguese. Not sure about the others.

Germans are immigrants who works with agricultural technology

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Cubans in Brazil are mainly linked to medical services in remote areas where Brazilian doctors "refused" to go.

Americans are usually expatriates, but a lot of fixed residents as well, mainly tourists who decided to stay. I don't think these americans are of brazilian families, otherwise Minas Gerais should be named with Americans instead of Chinese.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are immigrants who lives in their own communities, Chinese and Koreans work mainly in the tertiary sector of the economy, Japanese mainly in the first sector.

English in ES should be fixed residents, same for Portuguese. Not sure about the others.

Germans are immigrants who works with agricultural technology

Asians in my city buy stores in the city center and bring things(importados) from China. Chineses have low education and are always smoking like chimney. Koreans are just the perfect immigrants.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

I dont agree with those two maps I will post now, they are not necessarily accurate due to be too simplistic and unprofessional, but thats still interesting to see. Probably they are most about surnames.
https://i.imgur.com/chPXqOi.png
https://i.imgur.com/i922jyg.jpg

Detailed study about some Latam countries. Excelent study.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRmCgVaRn_djysYPMdWEM6iUHJxrak e4KjaajKOcG2OejPm6l64

Census racial division
http://sharonbirch.sites.gettysburg.edu/soc203/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/RacialComp.jpg

More detailed Map
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Geographic_ancestry_distribution_of_Brazil.png

[CostaRicaBall]

Even if Brasil receive one of the greatest spanish inmigrations, I have the impression that a good amount of spanish background people in the borders are border inmigrants while spaniards were absorbed by portugueses. My statement is wrong?

[KMack]

I would say it is the opposite, americans usually prefer the most african states like Bahia or Rio de Janeiro.

They are usually tourists who loved the place and decided to stay.

Just an example, from Nevada, a couple decided to stay in Salvador and this video is about their family visiting them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refOS9lmmBs

What is the climate difference between say Bahia and Santa Catarina?

[CostaRicaBall]

I dont agree with those two maps I will post now, they are not necessarily accurate due to be too simplistic and unprofessional, but thats still interesting to see. Probably they are most about surnames.
https://i.imgur.com/chPXqOi.png
https://i.imgur.com/i922jyg.jpg

Detailed study about some Latam countries. Excelent study.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRmCgVaRn_djysYPMdWEM6iUHJxrak e4KjaajKOcG2OejPm6l64

Census racial division
http://sharonbirch.sites.gettysburg.edu/soc203/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/RacialComp.jpg

More detailed Map
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Geographic_ancestry_distribution_of_Brazil.png

Hmm.... I think that the maps are based in european background majority. For example. I think that Southeast has a lot of italian background to Latin American standards. My statement is wrong?

[Erronkari]

Even if Brasil receive one of the greatest spanish inmigrations, I have the impression that a good amount of spanish background people in the borders are border inmigrants while spaniards were absorbed by portugueses. My statement is wrong?

Those maps are a little biased, as Tenma said, because they are based in the surnames origin, so it's not the best criteria...

[CostaRicaBall]

Something interesting is that I watch soap operas of Globo and Record TV and their is a lot of people(actors, production team, writters.... ) in the credits with italian surnames.

[luc2112]

Americans move to the German states?

No, The first are confederates who came to the interior of São Paulo (City's Americana and Santa Barbara do oeste), in the south to Curitiba-Paraná and Florianópolis.
Farmers from the center-west came to the Mato Grosso do Sul behind cheaper land.

[Erronkari]

Something interesting is that I watch soap operas of Globo and Record TV and their is a lot of people(actors, production team, writters.... ) in the credits with italian surnames.

Indeed, I think São Paulo is the city with the most diaspora % in the world.
Even I have a doubt about New Jersey - NJ in USA.
But in that case I am not sure where we could find the data... :(

[luc2112]

I would say it is the opposite, americans usually prefer the most african states like Bahia or Rio de Janeiro.

They are usually tourists who loved the place and decided to stay.

Just an example, from Nevada, a couple decided to stay in Salvador and this video is about their family visiting them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refOS9lmmBs

are crazy, this state has increased violence...

[CostaRicaBall]

@Tenma de Pegasus @luc2112 @Bolsonaro2018 @Chaos One
Which percent can you give to brown people of non-portuguese background(I mean, brown people that are like 1/2, 1/4 and 1/8 italian,german, swiss background for example) in Brasil general population?

[Matxe92]

I've always seen Brazil as. You have a cauldron where you basically brew, native indians + portuguese + african.

If you don't have that, i find it really weird if your brazilian. Im damaged, it's filled with germans aswell.

[CostaRicaBall]

I've always seen Brazil as. You have a cauldron where you basically brew, native indians + portuguese + african.

If you don't have that, i find it really weird if your brazilian.

I think that ameridian contribution of Brasil is overrated in this forum. I mean is too lower to Continental standards, lower than Argentina amerindian contribution and maybe Puerto Rico that is in the Caribean. But well....

[luc2112]

What is the climate difference between say Bahia and Santa Catarina?

Bahia is tropical, Santa Catarina is Sub-tropical (weather map at sea level)

https://i.postimg.cc/g0ZJTJSY/clima.jpg

I already lived in a city in Santa Catarina, has cheap land on the beach and is safe.

[luc2112]

Racial division, but of course milions of white brazilians can live in the orange region and also milions of pardos can live in the green area.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRZ25xL5OXwm4Hg7gE_AskenCjrVds ImovvPQUsWC0mtB9Xst9F
Ceara and Goias has enough whites. It would be good to separate the Amerindians from the blacks

[luc2112]

I've always seen Brazil as. You have a cauldron where you basically brew, native indians + portuguese + african.

If you don't have that, i find it really weird if your brazilian. Im damaged, it's filled with germans aswell.

Brazil is a big country, culture changes by region. Indians did not mingle with blacks in many regions, The city where I live here in southern Brazil has less than 2% of SSA (which is less than Europe currently :p)

[Erronkari]

I think that ameridian contribution of Brasil is overrated in this forum. I mean is too lower to Continental standards, lower than Argentina amerindian contribution and maybe Puerto Rico that is in the Caribean. But well....

Brazilian Amerindian national % is not more than 9/11% indeed, it belongs to the latinamerican group of countries with less amerindian percentage which is integrated by Cuba, Dominican Republic, Uruguay, Puerto Rico, and as we are saying, Brazil.

[luc2112]

Even if Brasil receive one of the greatest spanish inmigrations, I have the impression that a good amount of spanish background people in the borders are border inmigrants while spaniards were absorbed by portugueses. My statement is wrong?

European immigrants who came to the south had a high birth rate (more than ten children) the Spaniards see little talk of them, they must not have multiplied.

[luc2112]

@Tenma de Pegasus @luc2112 @Bolsonaro2018 @Chaos One
Which percent can you give to brown people of non-portuguese background(I mean, brown people that are like 1/2, 1/4 and 1/8 italian,german, swiss background for example) in Brasil general population?

You have no statistics for this

[Ülev]

(...)
https://i.imgur.com/i922jyg.jpg

(...)

It looks like Poles can't live without Germans :rolleyes:

[Token]

I think that ameridian contribution of Brasil is overrated in this forum. I mean is too lower to Continental standards, lower than Argentina amerindian contribution and maybe Puerto Rico that is in the Caribean. But well....

Yeah. The population replacement in Brazil was drastic, more drastic than in any other Latin American country.

[luc2112]

I think that ameridian contribution of Brasil is overrated in this forum. I mean is too lower to Continental standards, lower than Argentina amerindian contribution and maybe Puerto Rico that is in the Caribean. But well....

Brazil have at least a few 40% Amerindian in the population. Amerindian who were catechized were no longer considered indigenous, that is why statistics are incomplete.

[luc2112]

It looks like Poles can't live without Germans :rolleyes:

Poles came to Brazil with German citizenship, in the cities where the Poles came, some Germans and Italians came together.

[Erronkari]

I think that ameridian contribution of Brasil is overrated in this forum. I mean is too lower to Continental standards, lower than Argentina amerindian contribution and maybe Puerto Rico that is in the Caribean. But well....

You are right in the sense that brazilian amerindian % is extremely low.
But argentinian amerind contribution is not low at all.
It s between 20 and 25% depending of the =/= tests so it s the double or more than brazilian one

[luc2112]

It s between 20 and 25% depending of the =/= tests so it s the double or more than brazilian one
This would be approximately the same proportion of the southern region of Brazil

[Erronkari]

This would be approximately the same proportion of the southern region of Brazil

Hummmm...
Don't you think that it's too much for southern brazilians that value???
imagine that it should be around 15% in my humble opinion...

[luc2112]

Hummmm...
Don't you think that it's too much for southern brazilians that value???
imagine that it should be around 15% in my humble opinion...

The estimate is 75% of white for south, 4% are blacks (mix) leftover 21%.

[Erronkari]

The estimate is 75% of white for south, 4% are blacks (mix) leftover 21%.

Oh ok. I undrestood!
But what I meant is that genetically talking argentines have 20-25% amerindian contribution on average.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Hummmm...
Don't you think that it's too much for southern brazilians that value???
imagine that it should be around 15% in my humble opinion...

I think thats too much for Southern Brazil, their european ancestry is already very high 80-85%.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Something interesting is that I watch soap operas of Globo and Record TV and their is a lot of people(actors, production team, writters.... ) in the credits with italian surnames.

Thats because 1/4 to 1/3 of white brazilians have some italian ancestry. Around half of the whites from Center-South have some italian ancestry. To simplify Iberian ancestry start to dominate among whites by a huge margin only around Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte, Brasília DF and northwards.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

@Tenma de Pegasus @luc2112 @Bolsonaro2018 @Chaos One
Which percent can you give to brown people of non-portuguese background(I mean, brown people that are like 1/2, 1/4 and 1/8 italian,german, swiss background for example) in Brasil general population?

The surnames of non whites are iberian by far, but many also have italian surname and german is not common, but I have already find it among non whites in my college.

[Erronkari]

I think thats too much for Southern Brazil, their european ancestry is already very high 80-85%.

No, I was talking about Argentina.
The argentine genepool has around 20/25% amerindian.
I saw a lot of studies and almost all say the same.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

No, I was talking about Argentina.
The argentine genepool has around 20/25% amerindian.
I saw a lot of studies and almost all say the same.

I know, I was just agreeing with you at the part you said that it is too much for South Brazil.

[Duffmannn]

Even if Brasil receive one of the greatest spanish inmigrations, I have the impression that a good amount of spanish background people in the borders are border inmigrants while spaniards were absorbed by portugueses. My statement is wrong?

Many spanish inmigrants were in fact the same than portuguese because they were galicians, spoke portuguese and had pretty much the same cultural costumes.

The other bulk is composed by andalousians, well, spanish and portuguese are very similar lenguages.

Unlike germans or italians most migrated yo urban áreas, so they were not isolated in their rural area and lived an intense "brazilianization" since their arrival.

This is the reason why spaniards 'dissapeared' so fast in Brazil. Probably just the first generation was plenty integrated within the brazilian mainstream society.

[Duffmannn]

Brazilian Amerindian national % is not more than 9/11% indeed, it belongs to the latinamerican group of countries with less amerindian percentage which is integrated by Cuba, Dominican Republic, Uruguay, Puerto Rico, and as we are saying, Brazil.

And mostly concentrated un northern amazonian states (Pará, Amazonía, Rondonia, Acre...) where the so called pardos are mostly mestizos.

[Duffmannn]

Yeah. The population replacement in Brazil was drastic, more drastic than in any other Latin American country.

The native population of Brazil before the european arrival was in fact very very low because it was composed of nomadic groups that didn't practised the agriculture.

Less than 1 million of indians un a continental country bigger than Europe. The arrival of amounts of whites and blacks, and the catastrophic illnesses that decimated the native population, changed fastly and intensely the demographics of Brazil.

This is exactly what happened to other countries in America (Canada, USA, Argentina, Uruguay), Australia or South Africa (blacks are not native to South Africa, the native are the hotentotes)

[Erronkari]

The native population of Brazil before the european arrival was in fact very very low because it was composed of nomadic groups that didn't practised the agriculture.

Less than 1 million of indians un a continental country bigger than Europe. The arrival of amounts of whites and blacks, and the catastrophic illnesses that decimated the native population, changed fastly and intensely the demographics of Brazil.

This is exactly what happened to other countries in America (Canada, USA, Argentina, Uruguay), Australia or South Africa (blacks are not native to South Africa, the native are the hotentotes)

Argentines score in average 20/25% native in genetic tests and not more than 25% of the population is totally unmixed with natives.
Even though the bulk of the population (65%/70% or more) score more than 80% Euro.
I think that it's an intermediate case between other countries you mentioned and the rest of Latinamerica.

[Duffmannn]

Argentines score in average 20/25% native in genetic tests and not more than 25% of the population is totally unmixed with natives.
Even though the bulk of the population (65%/70% or more) score more than 80% Euro.
I think that it's an intermediate case between other countries you mentioned and the rest of Latinamerica.

Much of that amerindian admixture comes from recent arrivals of inmigrant of neighbour countries, I have seen recently a map of inmigration in Argentina by nationalities and yet in the european boom of the XIX-XX the bolivians, paraguayans and chileans were an important inmigrant group in neighbour provinces (Salta-Jujuy bolivians, Chaco paraguayans, Patagonia chileans)

[Ruggery]

You are right in the sense that brazilian amerindian % is extremely low.
But argentinian amerind contribution is not low at all.
It s between 20 and 25% depending of the =/= tests so it s the double or more than brazilian one

In Uruguay, what percentage would the Amerindian contribution be?

[Erronkari]

Much of that amerindian admixture comes from recent arrivals of inmigrant of neighbour countries, I have seen recently a map of inmigration in Argentina by nationalities and yet in the european boom of the XIX-XX the bolivians, paraguayans and chileans were an important inmigrant group in neighbour provinces (Salta-Jujuy bolivians, Chaco paraguayans, Patagonia chileans)

I agree but what I mean is that the bulk of the argentine population is located between +85% Euro and -98% Euro.
But of course they still Euro phenotypically talking.
Argentines who have admixture with bordering immigrants almost never score more than 70 Euro and they are a minority.
As you said Euro-looking are around 63% of the population. I totally agree with your statement.

[Ruggery]

South Africa (blacks are not native to South Africa, the native are the hotentotes)


friend, really? A country in continental Africa where blacks are not native?

[Erronkari]

In Uruguay, what percentage would the Amerindian contribution be?

According the tests they score around 10% more ore or less.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

friend, really? A country in continental Africa where blacks are not native?

This make no sense to me also. I researched about hotentoes and they look blacks with some chinese vibe, Nelson Mandela style.

[CostaRicaBall]

This make no sense to me also. I researched about hotentoes and they look blacks with some chinese vibe, Nelson Mandela style.

The hotentoes are a different tribe/sub-race of the current blacks that are ruling South África. You already said it, they are more lighter and with different eyes. Also, the hotentoes are maybe the prime race. Hotentoes+uknown race= blacks, hotentoes+cromagnon men+5000 years= whites...... When Dutch and brittish people arrive to those lands the current blacks weren't their. Those blacks (batuids or something else)flood and then dutch/brittish people put the Aparteid to don't be absorbed.

Argentina and USA also get in the ride to pick "natives" that aren't probably natives when the respective nations were created.

In Argentina most people of Salta and Jujuy are probably bolivians and not colonial argentines. Colonial argentines been wiped by miscegination and sent to wars(a silent eugenic project) so most mixed people there are in fact paraguayans and chileans (yes, during Perón administration Chile was far poor than Argentina) and he open borders. That explains the disparity of births between whites and mixed people in Argentina in the last years. Same is happening to USA. Before 60's most people (like 90%) were non-hispanic whites. Now that group is 64% and is falling more and more. To 2100 USA will not be part of the anglo-germanic world if Trump don't solve the problem.

[Duffmannn]

friend, really? A country in continental Africa where blacks are not native?

Yes, there are many.

All northern África (Morocco, Western Sáhara, Algeria, Tunisia, Libia, Egypt), all the southern extreme (South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, Namibia) and all the islands that surround the continent (Canary Madeira, Azores, Cape Verde, Sao Tome and Príncipe, Madagascar, Reunión, Seychelles, Mauricio, Comoros, Mayotte)

In fact blacks didn't occupied most of África until very late, type in Google: bantú expansion.

[Erronkari]

The hotentoes are a different tribe/sub-race of the current blacks that are ruling South África. You already said it, they are more lighter and with different eyes. Also, the hotentoes are maybe the prime race. Hotentoes+uknown race= blacks, hotentoes+cromagnon men+5000 years= whites...... When Dutch and brittish people arrive to those lands the current blacks weren't their. Those blacks (batuids or something else)flood and then dutch/brittish people put the Aparteid to don't be absorbed.

Argentina and USA also get in the ride to pick "natives" that aren't probably natives when the respective nations were created.

In Argentina most people of Salta and Jujuy are probably bolivians and not colonial argentines. Colonial argentines been wiped by miscegination and sent to wars(a silent eugenic project) so most mixed people there are in fact paraguayans and chileans (yes, during Perón administration Chile was far poor than Argentina) and he open borders. That explains the disparity of births between whites and mixed people in Argentina in the last years. Same is happening to USA. Before 60's most people (like 90%) were non-hispanic whites. Now that group is 64% and is falling more and more. To 2100 USA will not be part of the anglo-germanic world if Trump don't solve the problem.

The biggest segment of Argentine population is located in +85 and -98% Euro and the huge majority of that group don't have paraguayan, bolivian or chilean ancestry my friend. ;)

[CostaRicaBall]

The biggest segment of Argentine population is located in +85 and -98% Euro and the huge majority of that group don't have paraguayan, bolivian or chilean ancestry my friend. ;)

Again, people of Salta, Jujuy and non-whites as whole.

You are giving me the reason, Sir.

[Tooting Carmen]

Argentina and USA also get in the ride to pick "natives" that aren't probably natives when the respective nations were created.

Excuse me? There were plenty of Amerindians long before the Mexicans and Central Americans went en masse to the former, and Bolivians and Paraguayans to the latter.


In Argentina most people of Salta and Jujuy are probably bolivians and not colonial argentines. Colonial argentines been wiped by miscegination and sent to wars(a silent eugenic project) so most mixed people there are in fact paraguayans and chileans (yes, during Perón administration Chile was far poor than Argentina) and he open borders.

Are you trolling or what?


Same is happening to USA. Before 60's most people (like 90%) were non-hispanic whites.

Umm...no. Since the 19th century, African-Americans have always been 10-15% of the US population depending on the birth rates and immigration patterns of the given time. What's more, I am sure I read somewhere that, in 1776, African-Americans were at 19%, and their proportion of the population went down later on thanks to mass immigration from Europe. (Many if not most of whom were not from the same origins as colonial Whites).

[CostaRicaBall]

Excuse me? There were plenty of Amerindians long before the Mexicans and Central Americans went en masse to the former, and Bolivians and Paraguayans to the latter.



Are you trolling or what?



Umm...no. Since the 19th century, African-Americans have always been 10-15% of the US population depending on the birth rates and immigration patterns of the given time. What's more, I am sure I read somewhere that, in 1776, African-Americans were at 19%, and their proportion of the population went down later on thanks to mass immigration from Europe. (Many if not most of whom were not from the same origins as colonial Whites).


They were few natives, very light(reaching the yellow level) in USA. Nowadays are a lot of brown people in USA of Mesoamerican origin. This is fact. Even if blacks were like 15% non-hispanic whites were over 75%. Nowadays is different.
I'm shure that in 50 years, beaners will claim "rights" in USA as non-hotentoes blacks did in Sudafrica. With the same "native" argument. More with politicians as Berny Sanders everywhere. Just wait my friend.

[Tooting Carmen]

They were few natives, very light(reaching the yellow level) in USA. Nowadays are a lot of brown people in USA of Mesoamerican origin. This is fact. Even if blacks were like 15% non-hispanic whites were over 75%. Nowadays is different.
I'm shure that in 50 years, beaners will claim "rights" in USA as non-hotentoes blacks did in Sudafrica. With the same "native" argument. More with politicians as Berny Sanders everywhere. Just wait my friend.

I think there shall be some attempts (mostly unsuccessful) to absorb the Southwest into Mexico, but the rest of the US (apart from Miami and a few enclaves here and there in NY, Chicago etc) won't be Hispanicized that much.

[Erronkari]

The biggest segment of Argentine population is located in +85 and -98% Euro and the huge majority of that group don't have paraguayan, bolivian or chilean ancestry my friend. ;)


Again, people of Salta, Jujuy and non-whites as whole.

You are giving me the reason, Sir.

Ups... you are totally right. I must be blind. I'm so sorry... :p

[Tooting Carmen]

Ups... you are totally right. I must be blind. I'm so sorry... :p

But are most of the Mestizos in Northern Argentina of colonial origin, or are they the descendants of post-independence immigrants from Bolivia, Paraguay and Chile? That's the crucial question.

[arkas]

@Brazilians Do you commonly meet pure blooded Amerindians in big cities in Brazil?

[Erronkari]

But are most of the Mestizos in Northern Argentina of colonial origin, or are they the descendants of post-independence immigrants from Bolivia, Paraguay and Chile? That's the crucial question.

Well, both cases.
The point is that Argentina always had a cultural penetration from neightbouring countries inner the different regions of this country, especially bolivian in Salta and Jujuy, paraguayan in Formosa, part of Misiones and part of Corrientes, Chilean in argentine's Patagonia and southern brazilian in the east of Misiones and of Corrientes.
But that hasn't particularly to do with massive immigration but with the similarity between both.
And especially the case of bolivians and paraguayans, because all countries were part of the River Plate Viceroyalty....
So, they mixed between them per ages.
I am another similar case, considering my dad was uruguayan.
You can find a lot of argentines and uruguayans in the same situation to mine, dad urguguayan, mom argentine or viceversa...

P.d.: But of course, in the case of the central region of the country, the difference with Paraguay, Bolivia and Chile is important...

[luc2112]

@Brazilians Do you commonly meet pure blooded Amerindians in big cities in Brazil?

Not, in most big cities is mixed, but in Manaus- Amazon pure blooded Amerindians it's possible.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

@Brazilians Do you commonly meet pure blooded Amerindians in big cities in Brazil?

When I was a kid, I went to an amerindian tribe in my state and even there pure amerindians were rare. The pure amerindian I know are bolivian and honduranian students in my university.

[Duffmannn]

When I was a kid, I went to an amerindian tribe in my state and even there pure amerindians were rare. The pure amerindian I know are bolivian and honduranian students in my university.

Are there amerindians in Ceará??

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Are there amerindians in Ceará??

No, just mestizos, trirracials and harnizos pretending they are to have the right to live in reserves.

[Erronkari]

When I was a kid, I went to an amerindian tribe in my state and even there pure amerindians were rare. The pure amerindian I know are bolivian and honduranian students in my university.

Eles eram Tabajaras???

[perikolez]

But are most of the Mestizos in Northern Argentina of colonial origin, or are they the descendants of post-independence immigrants from Bolivia, Paraguay and Chile? That's the crucial question.

People from Tucuman, Santiago del Estero or Catamarca are balanced mestizos, while bolivians are pure amerindians, or indomestizos. Then people from northwestern Argentina are colonial, included many amerindians and indomestizos from Salta and Jujuy. If they were mostly of bolivian origin, people from Tucuman woud be similar to people from Bolivia but in reality they have more european admixture.

[Tooting Carmen]

People from Tucuman, Santiago del Estero or Catamarca are balanced mestizos, while bolivians are pure amerindians, or indomestizos. Then people from northwestern Argentina are colonial, included many amerindians and indomestizos from Salta and Jujuy. If they were mostly of bolivian origin, people from Tucuman woud be similar to people from Bolivia but in reality they have more european admixture.

Precisely, so CostaRicaBall is talking bs.

[Erronkari]

And another point, they belong to a different amerindian subraces in Tucuman and Santiago del Estero, among them and both comparing to bolivians or paraguayans.

Sergio Aguero, born in Bs. As. but his parents are both from Tucuman.
https://i.imgur.com/ZKTjuF4.jpg

Carlos Martinez Tevez (AKA Carlitos), born in Bs. As., both parents from Santiago del Estero.https://i.imgur.com/WnAe37t.jpg

Julio Cruz, from La Banda, Santiago del Estero.
https://i.imgur.com/KTjGkUh.jpg

IMO they look totally different to bolivians and in a way also to paraguayans, in my opinion the amerindian traits are different.

But CRBall in a way is right.
Not in those provinces of the examples, but in the highlands of Salta or Jujuy the people are related to bolivians and in Corrientes and Formosa to Paraguayans.
But that hasn't to do to the immigration, but because in both cases they belong to the same culture, that's the reason.
The massive immigration existed, but most of the immigrants didn't settled in those provinces but in the central area of the country and it doesn't changed substantially the population.
At least not bolivians because they live among them in a ghetto style.
Paraguayans marry argentines many times but they are not uber different to us...

[Argentano]

People from Tucuman, Santiago del Estero or Catamarca are balanced mestizos, while bolivians are pure amerindians, or indomestizos. Then people from northwestern Argentina are colonial, included many amerindians and indomestizos from Salta and Jujuy. If they were mostly of bolivian origin, people from Tucuman woud be similar to people from Bolivia but in reality they have more european admixture.

Obviously there is a certain amerindian ancesty that is foreign as we have recieved latino immigrants since 1850.

BUT y there is a huge difference between indomestizo Jujuy and mestizo Santiago del Estero

Q is the amerindian Ydna

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277503-NEW-2019-Argentine-Genetic-Study-about-paternal-lineages

https://media.springernature.com/original/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs00414-019-02012-5/MediaObjects/414_2019_2012_Fig2_HTML.png


Forebears

https://i.imgur.com/58lAN9h.png

[Erronkari]

I think that many people forget that Argentina even today has 2.4% of pure amerindians.
That number is higher than the % in Cuba, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, Brazil, Costa Rica and Paraguay.
In all those countries pure amerindians today are lesser # in %.
So, it's totally logical that except in Costa Rica and Paraguay, the % native in the argentinian national gene pool is much bigger than all the rest of the mentioned countries.

[Erronkari]

Obviously there is a certain amerindian ancesty that is foreign as we have recieved latino immigrants since 1850.

BUT y there is a huge difference between indomestizo Jujuy and mestizo Santiago del Estero

Q is the amerindian Ydna

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277503-NEW-2019-Argentine-Genetic-Study-about-paternal-lineages

https://media.springernature.com/original/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs00414-019-02012-5/MediaObjects/414_2019_2012_Fig2_HTML.png


Forebears

https://i.imgur.com/58lAN9h.png

That's true, but bolivians haven't changed too much the population because they don't usually mix with others, even their descendants.
The bulk of them live in a ghetto endigamic style.

[luc2112]

Are there amerindians in Ceará??

Ceará is white and white/amerindian predominant. States who had slaves are Bahia (white, white/SSA), Maranhão (tri-Racial), Pernanbuco (tri-Racial).

[Erronkari]

That's true.
Ceara is in my opinion is mostly a harnizo/castizo state with a big number of look Euro.
SSA influenced people are a low number... even quadroons and tri-racial are rare.
Indeed I remember that in the hotel where my parents and me stayed in Fortaleza (we made that trip around 26 years ago, but I remember quite well) I met in the swimming-pool many SSA influenced guys and girls, and they WERE ALL TOURISTS FROM MARANHAO AND PARA.
Cearenses like those people are not typical.

[luc2112]

That's true.
Ceara is in my opinion is mostly a harnizo/castizo state with a big number of look Euro.
.
Yes, public school

https://www.fortaleza.ce.gov.br/images/Educacao/alunos-estudantes-escolas-2016-19.jpg

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Eles eram Tabajaras???

Probably Tabajaras or Tapebas. They were pretending to be from those tribes, they even danced amerindian dances and do amerindian art, but they are just normal people in look and genetics with normal clothes driving cars and etc. They say they are amerindians just o receive benefits compared with others brazilians.

He dont have Quilombolas in Ceará, but in other states like Maranhao, Tocantins and Bahia quilombola settlements receive benefits from the goverment. At least they look real blacks.

[Erronkari]

Probably Tabajaras or Tapebas. They were pretending to be from those tribes, they even danced amerindian dances and do amerindian art, but they are just normal people in look and genetics with normal clothes driving cars and etc. They say they are amerindians just o receive benefits compared with others brazilians.

He dont have Quilombolas in Ceará, but in other states like Maranhao, Tocantins and Bahia quilombola settlements receive benefits from the goverment. At least they look real blacks.

Very intersting!
I remember when I traveled from Fortaleza to Praia do Cumbuco, and just a pair of kilometers after Caucáia (just after the exit of the urban area of Fortaleza) the guide said that there was a native neightbourhood, but I don't remember if she mentioned if they were tabajaras...
But we haven't seen the people, because that place wasn't too close to the rode.
Even, probably, I imagine they are not pure... or who knows....
But if they are or not, it would be very interesting to meet them, but of course the bus didn't stop enywhere, and it was not necessary, because if I remember well, between Fortaleza and Praia do Cumbuco the distance is not more than 25km I think....

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Ceará is white and white/amerindian predominant. States who had slaves are Bahia (white, white/SSA), Maranhão (tri-Racial), Pernanbuco (tri-Racial).

Ceara have whites, trirracials, harnizos, castizos, mestizos and some mulatos. The only blacks here are african immigrants, its true haha. Fortaleza has a lot of people from Africa, there is even a city here where african immigrants make like 15% of the population because Lula constructed here an University Called Unilab where the focus is to offer exchange and graduation to African people. An absurd, I know. I cant remember any black cearense, only mulatos. But the state have many trirracials, the african blood clearly exist here, but its lower than the amerindian. Sometimes people talk as only whites and amerindians composed this state. Ceará of all states I know in Brazil, its where I saw less blacks.

Rio Grande do Norte and Piauí are the most similar states followed by Paraíba and Pernambuco.
But in Paraíba and Pernambuco black people become like 8-10% of the people and pardos tend to more african mainly in Pernambuco, but its still a close state.

Bahia and Maranhao are perceived as very different.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Very intersting!
I remember when I traveled from Fortaleza to Praia do Cumbuco, and just a pair of kilometers after Caucáia (just after the exit of the urban area of Fortaleza) the guide said that there was a native neightbourhood, but I don't remember if she mentioned if they were tabajaras...
But we haven't seen the people, because that place wasn't too close to the rode.
Even, probably, I imagine they are not pure... or who knows....
But if they are or not, it would be very interesting to meet them, but of course the bus didn't stop enywhere, and it was not necessary, because if I remember well, between Fortaleza and Praia do Cumbuco the distance is not more than 25km I think....

Im impressed with your knowloged and description! What cities you visited here? In your opinion did you saw many people like me here like a very typical look?

[Duffmannn]

I have always though that all north-eastern Brazil has many black admixture. It was the region of the sugar plantations, portuguese and dutch ones, during the colonial era.

Anyway. I have a friend from Fortaleza, I met him while I lived in Italy and he studied un Bologna. I have always known the race differences in Latín America for my mexican experience. But on this case I discovered the opposite that happens un México, where everyone pretends to be white even not being clearly. The case, he defined himself as black. Me and a friend from Murcia were shocked (we the three spended so much time together) because he seamed to be harnizo, not SSA admixture. In that time I was not aware about races and I dind't know this forum, so as the murcian boy and me didn't want to discuss we let it go.

Also thanks to this boy a met a girl (jejejejeje) from Fortaleza too (most of the brazilians studying in Bologna were nordestinos) and she was completely White.

[luc2112]

Ceara have whites, trirracials, harnizos, castizos, mestizos and some mulatos. The only blacks here are african immigrants, its true haha. Fortaleza has a lot of people from Africa, there is even a city here where african immigrants make like 15% of the population because Lula constructed here an University Called Unilab where the focus is to offer exchange and graduation to African people. An absurd, I know. I cant remember any black cearense, only mulatos. But the state have many trirracials, the african blood clearly exist here, but its lower than the amerindian. Sometimes people talk as only whites and amerindians composed this state. Ceará of all states I know in Brazil, its where I saw less blacks.

Rio Grande do Norte and Piauí are the most similar states followed by Paraíba and Pernambuco.
But in Paraíba and Pernambuco black people become like 8-10% of the people and pardos tend to more african mainly in Pernambuco, but its still a close state.

Bahia and Maranhao are perceived as very different.

Every Brazilian big city receives Mulattos who migrated to work, compose between 5-15% of the population of big cities, but they are not natives of the region, But you see mulattos in the city.

In Brazil it is easy to know, where there is a relevant Portuguese architecture had slaves. Ceará it is an exception had few slaves.

[Erronkari]

Im impressed with your knowloged and description! What cities you visited here? In your opinion did you saw many people like me here like a very typical look?

Oh, it was in 1993, I was 18 at that moment.
Until that time my parents and me usually traveled Rio and we done some other trips to Guaruja (Baixada Santista, SP), "Floripa", Camboriu, Itapema (SC), and other places of the South and SE (and one time to Brasilia and to Recife, but I don't remember the last trip mentioned because I was 2 years old I think, it's the exeption).
Well... in 1993 my parents planned to go to the NE and they chose Ceara.
We spent around 15 days in Ceara as whole, and I remember quite well the trip for a lot of reasons.
Apart for the beautiful beaches, the very particular landscapes close of the coast with lagoons, the excellent weather (warm but not extremely hot and dry), the nature, the very nice and humble treatment of cearenses with the tourists, and a long etcetera that I can mention.
I hope to go at least one more time with my wife and children... I wish...

[CostaRicaBall]

I have always though that all north-eastern Brazil has many black admixture. Ir was the region of the sugar plantations, portuguese and dutch ones, during the colonial era.

Anyway. I has a friend from Fortaleza, I met him while I lived in Italy and he studied un Bologna. I has always known the race differences in Latín America for my mexican experience. Bit pm this case I discovered the opposite that happens un México, where everyone pretends to be white even not being clearly. The case, he defined himself as black. Me and a friend from Murcia were shocked (we the three spended so much time together) because he seamed to be harnizo, not SSA admixture. In that time I was not aware about races and I dind't know this fórum, so as the murcianos boy and me didn't want to discuss we let it go.

Also thanks to this boy a met a girl (jejejejeje) from Fortaleza too (most of the brazilians studying in Bologna were nordestinos) and she was completely White.

Hmmm..... I have the impression that people of Brasil don't know about their amerindian admixture (that is logic since is residual). So that man probably applies a one drope rule himself and conclude that his non-part white is negroid. So with the one drope rule himself=!white==black

[Erronkari]

Oh, I forgot to mention that I like a lot forro music. :D

[luc2112]

I have always though that all north-eastern Brazil has many black admixture. Ir was the region of the sugar plantations, portuguese and dutch ones, during the colonial era.

Some states north-eastern are considered a cauldron, amerindian light brown, dark brown (is confused with SSA), slaves blacks, Euro Portuguese and Dutch. Many Northeasterners are brachycephalic.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

I have always though that all north-eastern Brazil has many black admixture. Ir was the region of the sugar plantations, portuguese and dutch ones, during the colonial era.

Anyway. I has a friend from Fortaleza, I met him while I lived in Italy and he studied un Bologna. I has always known the race differences in Latin America for my mexican experience. Bit pm this case I discovered the opposite that happens un México, where everyone pretends to be white even not being clearly. The case, he defined himself as black. Me and a friend from Murcia were shocked (we the three spended so much time together) because he seamed to be harnizo, not SSA admixture. In that time I was not aware about races and I dind't know this fórum, so as the murcianos boy and me didn't want to discuss we let it go.

Also thanks to this boy a met a girl (jejejejeje) from Fortaleza too (most of the brazilians studying in Bologna were nordestinos) and she was completely White.

Yes, as said Black brazilians are extremely uncommon in this part of Brazil, foreigner blacks outnumbered the brazilian blacks very fast, just a bit more than 10 years. Also a big part of blacks have ancestry from others states, In my condominium in a group of 11, only 2 are not white, they are brothers and their father is a very black guy from Sao Paulo state. Also your harnizo friend could be left wing lover, some PT supporters like to think they are blacks even if they not even close to it.

About the white girl, despite the stereotype some persons from Brazil have about Northeast. The common brazilian dont know their country very well and the continental size does not help. This region have parts where whites are a big minority and many people can look real european and whites also have diverse look, some are even blonde light eyed. Despite Northeast have less white than the Brazilian average, it have more whites than most other latino countries.

What phenotype had the girl you met? How typical would say she was to Iberia? Is she still in Europe or came back?

[luc2112]

Hmmm..... I have the impression that people of Brasil don't know about their amerindian admixture (that is logic since is residual). So that man probably applies a one drope rule himself and conclude that his non-part white is negroid. So with the one drope rule himself=!white==black

Yes, even for the direct descent of Amerindians, they have been catechized, their children do not identify with Amerindians.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Some states north-eastern are considered a cauldron, amerindian light brown, dark brown (is confused with SSA), slaves blacks, Euro Portuguese and Dutch. Many Northeasterners are brachycephalic.

True. All the country is a rainbownation, white majority towards South and Pardo majority towards North.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Oh, I forgot to mention that I like a lot forro music. :D

And I like a lot Tango hehe

[luc2112]

O Estado de São Paulo contava, em 2005, com a maior população negra do país, com aproximadamente 12,5 milhões de pessoas de raça/cor preta ou parda, correspondendo a 31% dos habitantes do Estado, segundo dados divulgados pela PNAD. Entretanto, em termos relativos, é um dos Estados com menor proporção de negros, juntamente com os da Região Sul, pois, nos demais, as pessoas que se declararam pretas ou pardas equivalem a mais de 50% da população. Bahia, Amazonas e Pará são os Estados com maiores proporções de negros, próximas a 80%. Somando-se os Estados de São Paulo, Bahia e Minas Gerais, têm-se mais de 30 milhões de negros do país
Lol


Fonte:
http://produtos.seade.gov.br/produtos/idr/download/populacao.pdf

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Kkkkkkk

Tem muita gente como Bruna Marquezine, Glória Pires, Lula, Fernando Henrique, Juliana Paes, William Bonner e Patrícia Poeta que se declara e pardo e esses militantes ainda associam pardos com negros.

Se for assim, devíamos associar os negros jamaicanos e americanos com ingleses pq eles tem aquele 15% euro dentro deles.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

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[KMack]

Bahia is tropical, Santa Catarina is Sub-tropical (weather map at sea level)

https://i.postimg.cc/g0ZJTJSY/clima.jpg

I already lived in a city in Santa Catarina, has cheap land on the beach and is safe.

That seems to be the smart play.

[Adamastor]

Kkkkkkk

Tem muita gente como Bruna Marquezine, Glória Pires, Lula, Fernando Henrique, Juliana Paes, William Bonner e Patrícia Poeta que se declara e pardo e esses militantes ainda associam pardos com negros.


Juliana Paes, Lula, FHC e Marquezine sim, os outros acho que não. Quem tem o fenótipo do Bonner ou da Glória Pires se declara branco no Brasil (e seriam vistos como tal em qualquer lugar do mundo).

Esse negócio de pardo ser negro é um dos maiores golpes de mestre do movimento negro, só assim pra tornar o Brasil um país predominantemente negro. Eles partem da ideia de que a maioria dos negros brasileiros 'não se assumem', por isso precisam ser incluídos como negros à força.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Juliana Paes, Lula, FHC e Marquezine sim, os outros acho que não. Quem tem o fenótipo do Bonner ou da Glória Pires se declara branco no Brasil (e seriam vistos como tal em qualquer lugar do mundo).

Esse negócio de pardo ser negro é um dos maiores golpes de mestre do movimento negro, só assim pra tornar o Brasil um país predominantemente negro. Eles partem da ideia de que a maioria dos negros brasileiros 'não se assumem', por isso precisam ser incluídos como negros à força.

Em quanto vários países hispanicos como Costa Rica e Chile jogaram sua população miscigenada nos brancos, o Governo Brasileiro jogou as sua população miscigenado nos negros.

E agora a gente é obrigado a ver dados do tipo 77% dos homicídios acontecem com negros blabla

[Adamastor]

Em quanto vários países hispanicos como Costa Rica e Chile jogaram sua população miscigenada nos brancos, o Governo Brasileiro jogou as sua população miscigenado nos negros.

E agora a gente é obrigado a ver dados do tipo 77% dos homicídios acontecem com negros blabla

Isso é coisa do PT, partido que tem um forte lobby de organizações 'progressistas' internacionais que querem transformar as sensibilidades e costumes dos brasileiros. Boa parte dessa pressão pela inclusão dos pardos como negros surgiu em ONGs financiadas por dinheiro de fora (principalmente dos EUA).

[bandeirante]

Juliana Paes, Lula, FHC e Marquezine sim, os outros acho que não. Quem tem o fenótipo do Bonner ou da Glória Pires se declara branco no Brasil (e seriam vistos como tal em qualquer lugar do mundo).

Esse negócio de pardo ser negro é um dos maiores golpes de mestre do movimento negro, só assim pra tornar o Brasil um país predominantemente negro. Eles partem da ideia de que a maioria dos negros brasileiros 'não se assumem', por isso precisam ser incluídos como negros à força.

bonner é judeu! não pardo

[luc2112]

Isso é coisa do PT, partido que tem um forte lobby de organizações 'progressistas' internacionais que querem transformar as sensibilidades e costumes dos brasileiros. Boa parte dessa pressão pela inclusão dos pardos como negros surgiu em ONGs financiadas por dinheiro de fora (principalmente dos EUA).

É pior do que isso. Queriam usar essa massa de pessoas pardas para se eleger, o que é tipico de oportunistas. Não se deve incentivar a divisão de uma população em duas etnias.

[luc2112]

E agora a gente é obrigado a ver dados do tipo 77% dos homicídios acontecem com negros blabla

Ja vi essa afirmação até no norte e nordeste que é de maioria parda. Dizem que os homicídios são de negros, mas não faço ideia se são apenas pardos ou mulatos.

[bandeirante]

Around 10.5-11.5 milion people moved their lifes to Brazil along the history:

7 milion european mainly iberians, italians and germans.
3-4 milion africans were forced to came here.
343.000 japaneses
300.000 lebaneses

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTKHuy_LEHv_SaXCfrMTeF5A5vKHGH P0Xua18MXx6JGR6rapsCL

SOME WIKIPEDIA NUMBERS:

Main groups of settlers and immigrants in Brazil
Origin Population[48]
Africans (1550–1850) 3,000,000
Portuguese (1500-1822) 800,000
Portuguese, post-independence (1837–1968) 1,766,771
Italians (1836–1968) 1,620,344
Spaniards (1841–1968) 719,555
Japanese (1908–1968) 343,441
Russians (1871–1968) 319,215
Lebanese (1871–1968) 300,246
Germans (1836–1968) 240,457
Austrians (1868–1968) 198,457
Polish (1892–1968) 154,078
French (1842–1968) 150,341
Romanians (1908–1968) 140,799
Americans (1884–1968) 98,934
English (1847–1968) 78,080
Lithuanians (1920–1963) 69,002
Yugoslavs (1920–1968) 67,726
Argentines (1884–1968) 55,553
Syrians (1892–1968) 54,394
Swiss (1820–1968) 51,704
Greeks (1893–1968) 46,684
Dutch (1884–1968) 45,829
Hungarians (1908–1968) 43,592
Uruguayans (1884–1968) 40,836
Belgians (1847–1968) 39,173
Chinese (1895–1968) 17,996
Swedes (1853–1968) 17,994
Czechs (1920–1968) 16,538
Danes (1886–1968) 14,029
Jordanians (1953–1968) 13,567
Estonians (1923–1961) 12,803
Koreans (1956–1968) 12,500
Egyptians (1895–1968) 12,283
Paraguayans (1886–1968) 12,271
Canadians (1925–1968) 11,631
Peruvians (1885–1968) 11,600
Ukrainians (1920–1967) 11,415
Norwegians (1888–1968) 11,136
Venezuelans (1886–1968) 11,076
Finns (1819–1968) 9,992
Iranians (1922–1968) 6,735
Bulgarians (1908–1968) 6,557
Luxembourgian (1919–1968) 6,473
Australians (1946–1968) 920
Irish (1940/1968) 876
Scottish (1945/1961) 776

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSfWdYQ9oEkZiN-MN6NIB5vi8YWy3syk0R-iARsflt2w2kc95Lz

White percentage among states
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTbScRGLurrlxbzlpGPENT_uI6o-mNgy7eKB-fE_axAF0e185ut

Main Countries where people did the wrong emmigration choice, just joking or maybe not haha...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSSod-Jifc61fjRQSJ9A-I8tjenWsfXeGkDhkjn1A-k8bYnwOPO

Main South Americans authorized to work in Brazil. Brazils leftist goverment of 1989-2018 did not estimate ilegal immigrants. Mainly Bolivians who are 200.000 in Sao Paulo.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQOqEKWwsJKSn2cJ9Yx9wxQoYo5ILa i7vrB6C2otZtxqd8ZFW-m

Japaneses shipyard propaganda. Im so sorry for them...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTg-XViEAal-DVrkKWcYAPjg5BY2CBJL_QitJgDqnyKCI80eZFC

Immigrant statistics

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/source_images/CP-Brazil2018-F1-trans.png

https://images.app.goo.gl/ixWfyXdNRfq1KfbEA
https://images.app.goo.gl/a1Q4KGj9KBLk5xpN7

Why they did not chose USA or Australia instead lol? Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Uruguay, Cuba and Venezuela tricked many people generations and descendants. TRAP COUNTRIES DETECTED!

PS: Im so sorry to ruined this serious thread with those trap things... I just could not not control me, but I admire my country and most european descendants too, but we know the imperfections of our nation and people still loves it... we just like to talk bad things about Brazil between us... I should had wrote the bad things in portuguese lol

To demonstrate that, unlike white americans, white brazilians consider themselves brazilian and only brazilian : )

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS4z_03820y6mP38QEKjvqZ8RdDvP8 vW3ZPuGJ4eUQ8tWqJZBgN

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQI6-Nq8WZebZgFz_ifDb4-kTa2vaeY3hzhZ-V3yHt58srUgVUZ

Other statistics

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/migration-brazil-making-multicultural-society

não existe dados de quando os africanos começaram achegar no brasil! a escravidão erra indigena no começo até a primeira metade do seculo 17

[Tenma de Pegasus]

https://youtu.be/NLCxuBOJTas

Brazil PROBABLY has:

The largest diaspora of portugueses, italians, lebaneses, lithuanians, japaneses, belgians and luxembourgers.

The second largest of germans, poles and norwegians.

[Latinus]

I will copy & paste my post from the other thread:
Many "Confederados" immigrated to Brazil after the end of the American Civil War, they want mainly to the state of São Paulo and founded cities like "Americana", and they also contributed to Brazilian culture, one of their legacies is the fried chicken, which is very tasty.

[Chaos One]

Japanese (1908–1968) 343,441
Russians (1871–1968) 319,215
Lebanese (1871–1968) 300,246

Btw, interesting how we usually say thing about Japanese and Lebanese immigration but hardly see any kind of comments about Russian when they were that numerous...btw, on 1871 the Russian Empire was already huge, including most Caucasus and almost entire Central Asia.

[Duffmannn]

Japanese (1908–1968) 343,441
Russians (1871–1968) 319,215
Lebanese (1871–1968) 300,246

Btw, interesting how we usually say thing about Japanese and Lebanese immigration but hardly see any kind of comments about Russian when they were that numerous...btw, on 1871 the Russian Empire was already huge, including most Caucasus and almost entire Central Asia.

In the neighbour Argentina "russian inmigration" meant poles, Volga germans and askhenszi jews. Not russians at all.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Japanese (1908–1968) 343,441
Russians (1871–1968) 319,215
Lebanese (1871–1968) 300,246

Btw, interesting how we usually say thing about Japanese and Lebanese immigration but hardly see any kind of comments about Russian when they were that numerous...btw, on 1871 the Russian Empire was already huge, including most Caucasus and almost entire Central Asia.

Incrível como os russos conseguiram a proeza de serem tão esquecidos quantos os espanhóis.

Probably more than 400.000 of them arrived here after 1822. But it included so many non russian minorities that today the proper russian legacy in Brazil is not something big. This contributes to the diverse legacy of poles, ukrainians, romanians, gypsies, hungarians, romanians and serbians in Central South Brazil.

[Ranger0075]

In the neighbour Argentina "russian inmigration" meant poles, Volga germans and askhenszi jews. Not russians at all.

Same for Chile.

[bandeirante]

Juliana Paes, Lula, FHC e Marquezine sim, os outros acho que não. Quem tem o fenótipo do Bonner ou da Glória Pires se declara branco no Brasil (e seriam vistos como tal em qualquer lugar do mundo).

Esse negócio de pardo ser negro é um dos maiores golpes de mestre do movimento negro, só assim pra tornar o Brasil um país predominantemente negro. Eles partem da ideia de que a maioria dos negros brasileiros 'não se assumem', por isso precisam ser incluídos como negros à força.

bonner é judeu familia do oriente medio segundo ele proprio! em que planeta vc vive?

[Teutone]

Isnt Bolsonaro German?

[Adamastor]

Isnt Bolsonaro German?

He has a German great-grandfather, but he is mostly Tuscan actually. His mother is fully Tuscan while his father was a mix of Venetian, German, Calabrian and Colonial Brazilian.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Around 10.5-11.5 milion people moved their lifes to Brazil along the history:

7 milion european mainly iberians, italians and germans.
3-4 milion africans were forced to came here.
343.000 japaneses
300.000 lebaneses

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTKHuy_LEHv_SaXCfrMTeF5A5vKHGH P0Xua18MXx6JGR6rapsCL

SOME WIKIPEDIA NUMBERS:

Main groups of settlers and immigrants in Brazil
Origin Population[48]
Africans (1550–1850) 3,000,000
Portuguese (1500-1822) 800,000
Portuguese, post-independence (1837–1968) 1,766,771
Italians (1836–1968) 1,620,344
Spaniards (1841–1968) 719,555
Japanese (1908–1968) 343,441
Russians (1871–1968) 319,215
Lebanese (1871–1968) 300,246
Germans (1836–1968) 240,457
Austrians (1868–1968) 198,457
Polish (1892–1968) 154,078
French (1842–1968) 150,341
Romanians (1908–1968) 140,799
Americans (1884–1968) 98,934
English (1847–1968) 78,080
Lithuanians (1920–1963) 69,002
Yugoslavs (1920–1968) 67,726
Argentines (1884–1968) 55,553
Syrians (1892–1968) 54,394
Swiss (1820–1968) 51,704
Greeks (1893–1968) 46,684
Dutch (1884–1968) 45,829
Hungarians (1908–1968) 43,592
Uruguayans (1884–1968) 40,836
Belgians (1847–1968) 39,173
Chinese (1895–1968) 17,996
Swedes (1853–1968) 17,994
Czechs (1920–1968) 16,538
Danes (1886–1968) 14,029
Jordanians (1953–1968) 13,567
Estonians (1923–1961) 12,803
Koreans (1956–1968) 12,500
Egyptians (1895–1968) 12,283
Paraguayans (1886–1968) 12,271
Canadians (1925–1968) 11,631
Peruvians (1885–1968) 11,600
Ukrainians (1920–1967) 11,415
Norwegians (1888–1968) 11,136
Venezuelans (1886–1968) 11,076
Finns (1819–1968) 9,992
Iranians (1922–1968) 6,735
Bulgarians (1908–1968) 6,557
Luxembourgian (1919–1968) 6,473
Australians (1946–1968) 920
Irish (1940/1968) 876
Scottish (1945/1961) 776

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSfWdYQ9oEkZiN-MN6NIB5vi8YWy3syk0R-iARsflt2w2kc95Lz

White percentage among states
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTbScRGLurrlxbzlpGPENT_uI6o-mNgy7eKB-fE_axAF0e185ut

Main Countries where people did the wrong emmigration choice, just joking or maybe not haha...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSSod-Jifc61fjRQSJ9A-I8tjenWsfXeGkDhkjn1A-k8bYnwOPO

Main South Americans authorized to work in Brazil. Brazils leftist goverment of 1989-2018 did not estimate ilegal immigrants. Mainly Bolivians who are 200.000 in Sao Paulo.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQOqEKWwsJKSn2cJ9Yx9wxQoYo5ILa i7vrB6C2otZtxqd8ZFW-m

Japaneses shipyard propaganda. Im so sorry for them...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTg-XViEAal-DVrkKWcYAPjg5BY2CBJL_QitJgDqnyKCI80eZFC

Immigrant statistics

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/source_images/CP-Brazil2018-F1-trans.png

https://images.app.goo.gl/ixWfyXdNRfq1KfbEA
https://images.app.goo.gl/a1Q4KGj9KBLk5xpN7

Why they did not chose USA or Australia instead lol? Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Uruguay, Cuba and Venezuela tricked many people generations and descendants. TRAP COUNTRIES DETECTED!

PS: Im so sorry to ruined this serious thread with those trap things... I just could not not control me, but I admire my country and most european descendants too, but we know the imperfections of our nation and people still loves it... we just like to talk bad things about Brazil between us... I should had wrote the bad things in portuguese lol

To demonstrate that, unlike white americans, white brazilians consider themselves brazilian and only brazilian : )

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS4z_03820y6mP38QEKjvqZ8RdDvP8 vW3ZPuGJ4eUQ8tWqJZBgN

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQI6-Nq8WZebZgFz_ifDb4-kTa2vaeY3hzhZ-V3yHt58srUgVUZ

Other statistics

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/migration-brazil-making-multicultural-society

These numbers along the years


https://youtu.be/enZY88iiupo

[Daven]

Those 3-4 million Africans that were brought to Brazil were the vast majority men who didn't reproduce. The death rate was high among slaves. Also African women were not abundant. In colonial Minas Gerais for example 1 out of 10 Africans were females. It was also common that they often ended up marrying Portuguese men and not actuall African men. Slaves themselves tried to avoid reproducing actually.

[luc2112]

It was also common that they often ended up marrying Portuguese men and not actuall African men. Slaves themselves tried to avoid reproducing actually.

In the colonial era there is little possibility. An ex-slave black man Would marry amerindian, mulatto, mestiza. SSA for white is through quadrons.. European immigrants had many children (government request) in my region the 1st generation could have about 15 children, The mulattoes began to increase their number from the 70s onwards.

[luc2112]

In the neighbour Argentina "russian inmigration" meant poles, Volga germans and askhenszi jews. Not russians at all.

In Brazil the Russians are Ukrainians. Swiss and Austrian or other Germans in the Balkans are all Germans here.

[Daven]

In the colonial era there is little possibility. An ex-slave black man Would marry amerindian, mulatto, mestiza. SSA for white is through quadrons.. European immigrants had many children (government request) in my region the 1st generation could have about 15 children, The mulattoes began to increase their number from the 70s onwards.

When I say "marrying" I meant procreating. My bad for using the wrong word choice.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

In the colonial era there is little possibility. An ex-slave black man Would marry amerindian, mulatto, mestiza. SSA for white is through quadrons.. European immigrants had many children (government request) in my region the 1st generation could have about 15 children, The mulattoes began to increase their number from the 70s onwards.

I also believe the european input of Brazil was growing until 80's and 70's due to the larger white families and better condition of life. After 80's the costs of life increased a lot and whites started to have way less kids than other mixed and black brazilians.

Important to say that not all black and pardo families have many kids, far from that, but its common to very very poor brazilians like 10% most poor people to have 5, 6 or 7 kids and most of them blacks or pardos with low european input. That is changing the Brazilian input. Also its important to our governants to find a way to educate these kids and avoid they get as poor as their parents, but its difficult as fuck because of the precarious environment they live in. Its even more sad when many of the mothers start to get pregnant with only 12 or 13 years.

[Augusto']

bonner é judeu familia do oriente medio segundo ele proprio! em que planeta vc vive?
E como você acha que ele se classifica racialmente no censo? Obviamente como branco.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Those 3-4 million Africans that were brought to Brazil were the vast majority men who didn't reproduce. The death rate was high among slaves. Also African women were not abundant. In colonial Minas Gerais for example 1 out of 10 Africans were females. It was also common that they often ended up marrying Portuguese men and not actuall African men. Slaves themselves tried to avoid reproducing actually.

Yes...

The 3 milion amerindians living here generated only 11% of the total input.

The 3/4 milion africans generated only around 19%.

The 5/6 milion europeans generated around 70% of the total.

I would even say...

The 750.000 colonial settlers generated not less than 35% of the european input. (The founder effect)

Maybe the other 4.5/5 milion immigrants generated 35% at most I would say...

But of course, Im not sure... just imagining...

Iberian colonial have founder effect against amerindians, new immigrants and blacks. The only exceptions would be inland South Brazil that have founder effect of "germans" when the coast is heavily azorean.

[jeremy vaz]

Around 10.5-11.5 milion people moved their lifes to Brazil along the history:

7 milion european mainly iberians, italians and germans.
3-4 milion africans were forced to came here.
343.000 japaneses
300.000 lebaneses

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTKHuy_LEHv_SaXCfrMTeF5A5vKHGH P0Xua18MXx6JGR6rapsCL

SOME WIKIPEDIA NUMBERS:

Main groups of settlers and immigrants in Brazil
Origin Population[48]
Africans (1550–1850) 3,000,000
Portuguese (1500-1822) 800,000
Portuguese, post-independence (1837–1968) 1,766,771
Italians (1836–1968) 1,620,344
Spaniards (1841–1968) 719,555
Japanese (1908–1968) 343,441
Russians (1871–1968) 319,215
Lebanese (1871–1968) 300,246
Germans (1836–1968) 240,457
Austrians (1868–1968) 198,457
Polish (1892–1968) 154,078
French (1842–1968) 150,341
Romanians (1908–1968) 140,799
Americans (1884–1968) 98,934
English (1847–1968) 78,080
Lithuanians (1920–1963) 69,002
Yugoslavs (1920–1968) 67,726
Argentines (1884–1968) 55,553
Syrians (1892–1968) 54,394
Swiss (1820–1968) 51,704
Greeks (1893–1968) 46,684
Dutch (1884–1968) 45,829
Hungarians (1908–1968) 43,592
Uruguayans (1884–1968) 40,836
Belgians (1847–1968) 39,173
Chinese (1895–1968) 17,996
Swedes (1853–1968) 17,994
Czechs (1920–1968) 16,538
Danes (1886–1968) 14,029
Jordanians (1953–1968) 13,567
Estonians (1923–1961) 12,803
Koreans (1956–1968) 12,500
Egyptians (1895–1968) 12,283
Paraguayans (1886–1968) 12,271
Canadians (1925–1968) 11,631
Peruvians (1885–1968) 11,600
Ukrainians (1920–1967) 11,415
Norwegians (1888–1968) 11,136
Venezuelans (1886–1968) 11,076
Finns (1819–1968) 9,992
Iranians (1922–1968) 6,735
Bulgarians (1908–1968) 6,557
Luxembourgian (1919–1968) 6,473
Australians (1946–1968) 920
Irish (1940/1968) 876
Scottish (1945/1961) 776

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSfWdYQ9oEkZiN-MN6NIB5vi8YWy3syk0R-iARsflt2w2kc95Lz

White percentage among states
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTbScRGLurrlxbzlpGPENT_uI6o-mNgy7eKB-fE_axAF0e185ut

Main Countries where people did the wrong emmigration choice, just joking or maybe not haha...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSSod-Jifc61fjRQSJ9A-I8tjenWsfXeGkDhkjn1A-k8bYnwOPO

Main South Americans authorized to work in Brazil. Brazils leftist goverment of 1989-2018 did not estimate ilegal immigrants. Mainly Bolivians who are 200.000 in Sao Paulo.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQOqEKWwsJKSn2cJ9Yx9wxQoYo5ILa i7vrB6C2otZtxqd8ZFW-m

Japaneses shipyard propaganda. Im so sorry for them...
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTg-XViEAal-DVrkKWcYAPjg5BY2CBJL_QitJgDqnyKCI80eZFC

Immigrant statistics

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/source_images/CP-Brazil2018-F1-trans.png

https://images.app.goo.gl/ixWfyXdNRfq1KfbEA
https://images.app.goo.gl/a1Q4KGj9KBLk5xpN7

Why they did not chose USA or Australia instead lol? Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Uruguay, Cuba and Venezuela tricked many people generations and descendants. TRAP COUNTRIES DETECTED!

PS: Im so sorry to ruined this serious thread with those trap things... I just could not not control me, but I admire my country and most european descendants too, but we know the imperfections of our nation and people still loves it... we just like to talk bad things about Brazil between us... I should had wrote the bad things in portuguese lol

To demonstrate that, unlike white americans, white brazilians consider themselves brazilian and only brazilian : )

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS4z_03820y6mP38QEKjvqZ8RdDvP8 vW3ZPuGJ4eUQ8tWqJZBgN

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQI6-Nq8WZebZgFz_ifDb4-kTa2vaeY3hzhZ-V3yHt58srUgVUZ

Other statistics

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/migration-brazil-making-multicultural-society

Pelo o que eu li, foram mais de cinco milhões de africanos que foram trazidos para o brasil. Cerca de 60% de todos os africanos trazidos cativos para a América.

[DraviXi99]

Pelo o que eu li, foram mais de cinco milhões de africanos que foram trazidos para o brasil. Cerca de 60% de todos os africanos trazidos cativos para a América.

E 7.3 de 10 africanos não deixaram descendentes,e os europeus imigrantes tinham em media 10 - 15 filhos,se parar pra pensar,é ate assustador,nem mesmo essas duas coisas juntas conseguiu realmente branquear o país.

[Marshall Theodore]

Isnt Bolsonaro German?

Ah yes, Bolsonaro, a german surname.

[DraviXi99]

Ah yes, Bolsonaro, a german surname.

Bolsonaro (actually Bolzonaro) is a North - Italian surname but Biroliro is 1/8 German (and looks quite german) so maybe his looks made Teutone think he's german.

[Marshall Theodore]

Bolsonaro (actually Bolzonaro) is a North - Italian surname but Biroliro is 1/8 German (and looks quite german) so maybe his looks made Teutone think he's german.

Makes sense.

[Zumbi]

E 7.3 de 10 africanos não deixaram descendentes,e os europeus imigrantes tinham em media 10 - 15 filhos,se parar pra pensar,é ate assustador,nem mesmo essas duas coisas juntas conseguiu realmente branquear o país.
O branqueamento nunca foi possível devido a grande quantidade de pardos existentes desde a época colonial.
Pardo sempre teve um "status" diferente de negros,muitos eram livres na época da colônia e também estavam se reproduzindo por aí...

[Zumbi]

E 7.3 de 10 africanos não deixaram descendentes,e os europeus imigrantes tinham em media 10 - 15 filhos,se parar pra pensar,é ate assustador,nem mesmo essas duas coisas juntas conseguiu realmente branquear o país.
O branqueamento total nunca foi possível devido a grande quantidade de pardos existentes desde a época colonial.
Pardo sempre teve um "status" diferente de negros,muitos eram livres na época da colônia e também estavam se reproduzindo por aí...

[DraviXi99]

O branqueamento total nunca foi possível devido a grande quantidade de pardos existentes desde a época colonial.
Pardo sempre teve um "status" diferente de negros,muitos eram livres na época da colônia e também estavam se reproduzindo por aí...

Eu sei,mas poderia ter acontecido (o branqueamento),teria sido melhor pro país,esses negros/pardos que tem centenas de filhos por casal sendo que moram em extrema pobreza não se importam com eles,não são exemplo de nada.