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grecoroman
04-28-2019, 02:20 PM
guess who is italian or jewish??


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TheMaestro
04-28-2019, 02:23 PM
Anyone can be a jew, its like being American. Most of those players are Seria a players, Rossi is such a uspet, he was a killed in Villareal. Then instead of moving to a bigger club he chose a shit team and he showed nothing.

grecoroman
04-28-2019, 02:24 PM
Anyone can be a jew, its like being American. Most of those players are Seria a players, Rossi is such a uspet, he was a killed in Villareal. Then instead of moving to a bigger club he chose a shit team and he showed nothing.

who is a ethnic jew and who is a ethnic italian

Sp_loa
04-28-2019, 02:25 PM
1. Italian
2. Italian
3. Jewish
4. Italian
5. Jewish
6. Jewish
7. Italian
8. Jewish

grecoroman
04-28-2019, 02:28 PM
1. Italian
2. Italian
3. Jewish
4. Italian
5. Jewish
6. Jewish
7. Italian
8. Jewish

almost correct

Sp_loa
04-28-2019, 02:29 PM
almost correct

How much correct?
6/8?
7/8?

grecoroman
04-28-2019, 02:31 PM
How much correct?
6/8?
7/8?

7/8

Sp_loa
04-28-2019, 02:32 PM
7/8

1. Italian
2. Italian
3. Jewish
4. Italian
5. Jewish
6. Jewish
7. Jewish
8. Jewish

MysteriousWays
04-28-2019, 02:34 PM
Agree fully with Sp_Ioa assuming there are even numbers of Italians & Jews.

grecoroman
04-28-2019, 02:35 PM
1. Italian
2. Italian
3. Jewish
4. Italian
5. Jewish
6. Jewish
7. Italian
8. Jewish

if you swap 7 and 6, its all correct

hush2019
04-28-2019, 02:37 PM
Anyone can be a jew, its like being American. Most of those players are Seria a players, Rossi is such a uspet, he was a killed in Villareal. Then instead of moving to a bigger club he chose a shit team and he showed nothing.

I think you're find it's racially based especially in their Y dna

Sp_loa
04-28-2019, 02:37 PM
if you swap 7 and 6, its all correct

So 6 is an example of Italian that can pass in Israel 10/10.
Is he Southern Italian?

TheMaestro
04-28-2019, 02:38 PM
I think you're find it's racially based especially in their Y dna

y-dna is not a marker which would tell you your ethnicity neither race.

Sp_loa
04-28-2019, 02:39 PM
I think you're find it's racially based especially in their Y dna

Not all Jews have levantine YDNA.
Autosomally Jews have levantine DNA (Vary between the different subgroups). That's the main difference.

grecoroman
04-28-2019, 02:44 PM
So 6 is an example of Italian that can pass in Israel 10/10.
Is he Southern Italian?

Giuseppe Rossi. both his parents are from central italy (abruzzo and molise)

hush2019
04-28-2019, 02:51 PM
y-dna is not a marker which would tell you your ethnicity neither race.

Y chromosones. Whatever they're middle eastern through their male line. It will tell you your genetic make up your skull shape will tell you your race how about that for being smart.

Sp_loa
04-28-2019, 02:51 PM
Giuseppe Rossi. both his parents are from central italy (abruzzo and molise)

I actually saw in 23andme Moroccan Jews with recent location of Ancestry to both Molise and Abruzzo (that to my knowledge are both still Southern Italy) . Possible that some Jews mixed with Italians from those regions many many years ago.

hush2019
04-28-2019, 02:52 PM
Not all Jews have levantine YDNA.
Autosomally Jews have levantine DNA (Vary between the different subgroups). That's the main difference.

They don't have Levantine dna, they have Middle Eastern dna. Cypriots and Lebanese have Bronze Age Levantine DNA Ashkenazi Jews are Middle Eastern and Sicilian mixed.

hush2019
04-28-2019, 02:54 PM
I actually saw in 23andme Moroccan Jews with recent location of Ancestry to both Molise and Abruzzo (that to my knowledge are both still Southern Italy) . Possible that some Jews mixed with Italians from those regions many many years ago.

They given me Abruzzo too but apparently I am partly British and partly Greco Anatolian. And they given my 1/4 Syrian and German/Bosnian Cousin Serbia so their PCA charts and plots are all over the place they plot anyone with anything.

hush2019
04-28-2019, 02:55 PM
Moroccan Jews should be between the Middle East and North African Arabs probably Moroccans or Tunisians IMO

TheMaestro
04-28-2019, 02:55 PM
Y chromosones. Whatever they're middle eastern through their male line. It will tell you your genetic make up your skull shape will tell you your race how about that for being smart.

Bullshit.... Y-DNA or Mtdna makes like 0.000000000000000001% of your DNA. You have black guys with European Y-DNA or vice-versa..... You think having black ancestor 22 thousand ago and later have only white ancestors would make you look black?

Sp_loa
04-28-2019, 02:57 PM
Moroccan Jews should be between the Middle East and North African Arabs probably Moroccans or Tunisians IMO

Moroccan Jews aren't one group (they vary greatly genetically by location) and they have tons of Ibero-Italic ancestry (1492 Sephardim and later converso migrations). 20% of Moroccan Jews are Iberian clades of R1b. They plot a bit Southern to Sicilians- some western towards Iberians and Berbers and some Eastern towards levantine.

MysteriousWays
04-28-2019, 03:13 PM
I actually saw in 23andme Moroccan Jews with recent location of Ancestry to both Molise and Abruzzo (that to my knowledge are both still Southern Italy) . Possible that some Jews mixed with Italians from those regions many many years ago.

Geographically, Abruzzo is in Central Italy, but both Abruzzo and Molise are generally considered to be part of Southern Italy and genetically, they plot closer to the rest of Southern Italy.

savvas
04-28-2019, 03:33 PM
Giuseppe Rossi. both his parents are from central italy (abruzzo and molise)

Abruzzo and Molise are culturally, linguistically and genetically southern Italy. They speak Neapolitan languages (except L'Aquila area in Abruzzo) and genetically they are as close to Sicily as they are to central Italy (Umbria, Lazio, Marche and Romagna), and cluster with other southern Italians (Campania, Apulia and Basilicata).

Range of Neapolitan dialects (light violet):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Italy_-_Forms_of_Dialect.jpg

PCA of Europe:

https://image.ibb.co/gKWmqf/EURO-PCA-v3.jpg

Pine
04-28-2019, 10:05 PM
Their jerseys are showing. That's the biggest phenotypical giveaway.

Pine
04-28-2019, 10:14 PM
Moroccan Jews aren't one group (they vary greatly genetically by location) and they have tons of Ibero-Italic ancestry (1492 Sephardim and later converso migrations). 20% of Moroccan Jews are Iberian clades of R1b. They plot a bit Southern to Sicilians- some western towards Iberians and Berbers and some Eastern towards levantine.

No they don't. I'm not even "a bit Southern to Sicilians".