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Kaspias
04-28-2019, 07:10 PM
He is from Kardzhali. Seems indeed they genetically differ from Sunni's.

y-DNA: E-M5021
mt-DNA: H



Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.1
2 West_Asian 20.01
3 Baltic 17.09
4 North_Atlantic 15.63
5 West_Med 13.44
6 Siberian 4.57
7 East_Asian 2.22
8 Oceanian 1.51
9 Amerindian 1.05
10 Red_Sea 1.02
11 South_Asian 1.01
12 Sub-Saharan 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 11.97
2 Bulgarian 12.6
3 Central_Greek 13.56
4 Romanian 14.24
5 Italian_Abruzzo 14.39
6 East_Sicilian 15.17
7 Ashkenazi 16.86
8 West_Sicilian 17.29
9 South_Italian 17.34
10 Serbian 18
11 Turkish 18.25
12 Tuscan 19.02
13 Nogay 21.28
14 Moldavian 21.57
15 Kumyk 21.74
16 Azeri 21.81
17 Sephardic_Jewish 22.16
18 North_Italian 22.4
19 Turkmen 22.63
20 Italian_Jewish 22.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.1% Bulgarian + 34.9% Turkmen @ 4
2 65.1% Greek_Thessaly + 34.9% Nogay @ 4.25
3 54.4% Turkish + 45.6% Moldavian @ 4.31
4 58.4% Turkish + 41.6% Croatian @ 4.51
5 50.4% Serbian + 49.6% Turkish @ 4.63
6 64.5% Bulgarian + 35.5% Azeri @ 4.68
7 56.7% Romanian + 43.3% Turkish @ 4.69
8 64.2% Turkish + 35.8% Ukrainian @ 4.78
9 58.1% Turkish + 41.9% Hungarian @ 4.78
10 60.2% Bulgarian + 39.8% Turkish @ 4.84
11 64% Turkish + 36% South_Polish @ 4.85
12 61.4% Romanian + 38.6% Azeri @ 4.86
13 63.2% Turkish + 36.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.11
14 68.9% Turkish + 31.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.18
15 70.2% Turkish + 29.8% Estonian @ 5.33
16 66.5% Turkish + 33.5% Polish @ 5.35
17 55.2% Serbian + 44.8% Azeri @ 5.38
18 62.5% Romanian + 37.5% Turkmen @ 5.4
19 69.7% Turkish + 30.3% Finnish @ 5.44
20 69.9% Bulgarian + 30.1% Kurdish @ 5.49



Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.85
2 West_Asian 19.33
3 Baltic 12.94
4 North_Sea 11.45
5 Atlantic 11.11
6 West_Med 7.87
7 Eastern_Euro 5.3
8 Siberian 4.41
9 Southeast_Asian 1.91
10 Oceanian 1.37
11 South_Asian 0.81
12 Red_Sea 0.76
13 Amerindian 0.69
14 Sub-Saharan 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 12.59
2 Greek 12.59
3 Bulgarian 12.59
4 Central_Greek 13.35
5 Ashkenazi 13.71
6 Romanian 13.79
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.95
8 East_Sicilian 14.8
9 South_Italian 16.19
10 Turkish 16.73
11 West_Sicilian 17.19
12 Serbian 17.53
13 Tuscan 18.02
14 Azeri 19.93
15 Italian_Jewish 20.29
16 Sephardic_Jewish 20.34
17 Moldavian 20.57
18 Turkmen 20.73
19 Algerian_Jewish 21.86
20 North_Italian 22.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.9% Turkish + 41.1% Hungarian @ 5.91
2 63.4% Turkish + 36.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.21
3 68.8% Turkish + 31.2% Estonian @ 6.26
4 64.5% Turkish + 35.5% Ukrainian @ 6.31
5 55.8% Romanian + 44.2% Turkish @ 6.31
6 64.2% Turkish + 35.8% South_Polish @ 6.33
7 58.9% Turkish + 41.1% Croatian @ 6.34
8 55.9% Turkish + 44.1% Moldavian @ 6.45
9 67.4% Turkish + 32.6% Finnish @ 6.51
10 63.6% Bulgarian + 36.4% Azeri @ 6.56
11 58.9% Bulgarian + 41.1% Turkish @ 6.57
12 66.5% Turkish + 33.5% Polish @ 6.6
13 60.9% Romanian + 39.1% Azeri @ 6.63
14 67.9% Turkish + 32.1% La_Brana-1 @ 6.63
15 67.5% Turkish + 32.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 6.68
16 59.3% Turkish + 40.7% Austrian @ 6.77
17 57.5% Armenian + 42.5% La_Brana-1 @ 6.78
18 69.7% Turkish + 30.3% Lithuanian @ 6.88
19 51.4% Turkish + 48.6% Serbian @ 6.9
20 67.8% Turkish + 32.2% Belorussian @ 6.93


PuntDNAL K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 32.1
2 Mediterranean 26.03
3 Caucasian 23.56
4 SW_Asian 6.24
5 E_Asian 3.73
6 S_Indian 2.25
7 Siberian 2.14
8 Omo_River 1.38
9 Oceanian 1.09
10 Amerindian 0.65
11 Horn_Of_Africa 0.55
12 Wht_Nile_River 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 10.56
2 Greek_Central 10.68
3 Bosnian 12.63
4 Macedonian 13.03
5 Bulgarian 13.07
6 Albanian 13.53
7 Montenegrin 13.62
8 Romanian 13.73
9 Tuscan 14.19
10 Italian 15.25
11 Serbian 17.29
12 Ashkenazy_Jew 17.9
13 Sicilian 19.56
14 Brazilian 20.62
15 Sephardic_Jew 21.13
16 Croatian 21.5
17 French 22.28
18 Nogai 22.69
19 Portuguese 23.01
20 Spaniard 23.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Macedonian + 32.4% Turkmen @ 3.01
2 66.4% Romanian + 33.6% Turkmen @ 3.23
3 67.6% Bulgarian + 32.4% Turkmen @ 3.29
4 66.5% Montenegrin + 33.5% Tadjik @ 3.57
5 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% Tadjik @ 3.63
6 66.4% Romanian + 33.6% Tadjik @ 3.82
7 68.6% Bosnian + 31.4% Turkmen @ 3.84
8 66.9% Montenegrin + 33.1% Turkmen @ 3.96
9 64.2% Bulgarian + 35.8% Nogai @ 4.05
10 63% Romanian + 37% Nogai @ 4.15
11 64.4% Macedonian + 35.6% Nogai @ 4.23
12 58.8% Turk_Kayseri + 41.2% Mordovian @ 4.24
13 65.2% Bosnian + 34.8% Nogai @ 4.26
14 67.8% Macedonian + 32.2% Tadjik @ 4.27
15 72.2% Bosnian + 27.8% Azerbaijani @ 4.29
16 59% Turk_Kayseri + 41% Russian @ 4.31
17 51.4% Norwegian + 48.6% Azerbaijani @ 4.32
18 59.9% Turk_Kayseri + 40.1% Belarusian @ 4.33
19 57.2% Hungarian + 42.8% Azerbaijani @ 4.4
20 72.7% Bosnian + 27.3% Iranian @ 4.41


MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.69
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.88
3 European_Early_Farmers 12.74
4 South_Central_Asian 7.73
5 Near_East 7.54
6 Ancestral_Altaic 4.95
7 Tungus-Altaic 4.63
8 South_East_Asian 1.59
9 Australoid 1.49
10 Archaic_Human 1.1
11 North_African 0.59
12 East_Siberian 0.53
13 South_Indian 0.46
14 Amerindian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croat_BH ( ) 9.35
2 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 9.45
3 Bosnian ( ) 9.59
4 Serb_BH ( ) 10.01
5 Croat ( ) 10.14
6 Turk_Aydin ( ) 10.41
7 Montenegrian ( ) 10.56
8 Macedonian ( ) 10.56
9 Bulgarian ( ) 10.68
10 Serb_Serbia ( ) 11.33
11 Ukrainian_West ( ) 11.65
12 Romanian ( ) 11.73
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 11.86
14 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 12.35
15 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 12.43
16 Ukrainian_East ( ) 12.74
17 Slovak ( ) 12.93
18 Czech ( ) 13.03
19 Gagauz ( ) 13.57
20 Ukrainian ( ) 13.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Gagauz ( ) + 32.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 3.84
2 71.9% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 28.1% Finn_West ( ) @ 3.95
3 70.5% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 29.5% Swede_Saami ( ) @ 3.97
4 65% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 35% German ( ) @ 3.98
5 56.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 43.8% Slovak ( ) @ 4.16
6 51.8% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 48.2% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 4.23
7 74.5% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 25.5% Swede ( ) @ 4.23
8 61.7% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 38.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 4.25
9 73.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 26.8% Dane ( ) @ 4.26
10 67.9% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 32.1% Uzbek ( ) @ 4.29
11 67.4% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 32.6% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 4.33
12 72.9% Gagauz ( ) + 27.1% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 4.33
13 59.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 40.8% Kashub ( ) @ 4.35
14 72.3% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 27.7% Tatar-Mishar ( ) @ 4.35
15 73.4% Gagauz ( ) + 26.6% Uzbek ( ) @ 4.43
16 71.9% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 28.1% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 4.45
17 77.5% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 22.5% Finn ( ) @ 4.46
18 76% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 24% Finnish_FIN ( ) @ 4.47
19 71.4% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 28.6% Erzya ( ) @ 4.48
20 75.4% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 24.6% Tatar_Kryashen ( ) @ 4.5



MDLP K16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.48
2 Neolithic 19.64
3 NorthEastEuropean 16.5
4 Steppe 15.7
5 Siberian 4.9
6 NearEast 4.75
7 SouthEastAsian 1.97
8 Indian 1.85
9 Subsaharian 0.1
10 Australian 0.06
11 EastAfrican 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 6.74
2 Romanian (Romania) 7.61
3 Greek (Macedonia) 7.99
4 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 8.17
5 Greek (Peloponnes) 8.64
6 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 8.82
7 Greek (Greece) 8.96
8 Macedonian (Macedonia) 9.03
9 Romanian (Gorj) 9.43
10 Albanian (Albania) 9.49
11 Greek (Thessaloniki) 9.57
12 Kosovar (Kosovo) 9.71
13 Romanian (Apuseni) 10.12
14 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 10.42
15 Moldavian (Molodva) 10.56
16 Italian (Abruzzo) 10.63
17 Serbian (Serbia) 11.12
18 Jew (Ashkenazi) 11.72
19 Italian (Friul) 11.86
20 Jew (Ashkenazi) 11.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.1% Greek (Macedonia) + 29.9% Mishar-Tatar (Mordovia) @ 2.45
2 61.2% Turk (Turkey) + 38.8% Hungarian (WestUkraine) @ 2.56
3 61.7% Turk (Turkey) + 38.3% Ukrainians_west (WestUkraine) @ 2.67
4 78% Greek (Macedonia) + 22% Chuvash (Chuvashia) @ 2.68
5 55.2% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 44.8% Turk (Aydin) @ 2.71
6 61.8% Turk (Turkey) + 38.2% Ukrainian (Ukraine) @ 2.71
7 61.9% Turk (Turkey) + 38.1% Pole (EastPoland) @ 2.74
8 54.8% Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 45.2% Turk (Aydin) @ 2.74
9 54.8% Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 45.2% Turk (Aydin) @ 2.74
10 61% Turk (Turkey) + 39% Slovak (Slovakia) @ 2.82
11 65.6% Turk (Turkey) + 34.4% Russian (CentralRussia) @ 2.82
12 70.2% Greek (Macedonia) + 29.8% Tatars (Tatarstan) @ 2.84
13 54.7% Turk (Aydin) + 45.3% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 2.84
14 58.8% Turk (Turkey) + 41.2% Hungarian (Hungary) @ 2.85
15 65.7% Turk (Turkey) + 34.3% Swede (Sweden) @ 2.86
16 61.4% Turk (Turkey) + 38.6% Pole (Wroclaw) @ 2.87
17 65.3% Turk (Turkey) + 34.7% Belarusian (Belarus) @ 2.89
18 63.4% Turk (Turkey) + 36.6% Sorb (Lusatia) @ 2.94
19 77.2% Greek (Macedonia) + 22.8% Udmurd (Udmurtia) @ 2.97
20 68% Turk (Turkey) + 32% Norwegian (Norwegia) @ 2.99


Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.13
2 North_European 26.11
3 Atlantic_Med 17.34
4 Gedrosia 8.86
5 Southwest_Asian 6.51
6 Siberian 3.94
7 East_Asian 3.8
8 Northwest_African 2
9 South_Asian 0.99
10 East_African 0.17
11 Southeast_Asian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.42
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.69
3 Romanians (Behar) 13.84
4 Greek (Dodecad) 15.5
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.7
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.47
8 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 19.58
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.74
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.4
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.54
12 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.46
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.06
14 TSI30 (Metspalu) 22.1
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 23.31
16 Turks (Behar) 23.39
17 N_Italian (Dodecad) 24.19
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.45
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 26.28
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 33.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.04
2 68.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.64
3 53.4% Turks (Behar) + 46.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.22
4 66.7% Romanians (Behar) + 33.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.43
5 54.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.75
6 64.3% Turks (Behar) + 35.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.75
7 65.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.78
8 57.9% Turks (Behar) + 42.1% German (Dodecad) @ 5.16
9 64.6% Turks (Behar) + 35.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.19
10 66.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.4
11 62.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.41
12 59.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 40.6% German (Dodecad) @ 5.66
13 64.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.69
14 59.8% Romanians (Behar) + 40.2% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.69
15 70.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 29.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.79
16 72.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.98
17 63.1% Turks (Behar) + 36.9% Polish (Dodecad) @ 6.02
18 70.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.1% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 6.04
19 71.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 28.7% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 6.1
20 71.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.9% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 6.12



Eurogenes K36

Population
Amerindian 0.19 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 4.71 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.57 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.98 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 13.74 Pct
East_Med 10.43 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.11 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.39 Pct
French 1.55 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.07 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 13.00 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 1.27 Pct
North_Caucasian 9.35 Pct
North_Sea 10.75 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.96 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 3.79 Pct
South_Asian 0.73 Pct
South_Central_Asian 0.78 Pct
South_Chinese 1.15 Pct
Volga-Ural 2.80 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 7.11 Pct
West_Med 3.50 Pct

Bosniensis
04-28-2019, 07:13 PM
100% Ottoman from head to feet

Dick
04-28-2019, 07:13 PM
WHat about puntdnal? Greek Thessaly is probably some cherrypicked slavovlach sample

Kaspias
04-28-2019, 07:15 PM
WHat about puntdnal? Greek Thessaly is probably some cherrypicked slavovlach sample

PuntDNAL K15 is best calculator for Balkan Turks. My signature is also from Punt K15.

Karaton
04-28-2019, 07:16 PM
Can't see any difference from Sunni Turks in Kardzali.

Dick
04-28-2019, 07:16 PM
PuntDNAL K15 is best calculator for Balkan Turks. My signature is also from Punt K15.

I think it’s better for balkanoids In general

Kaspias
04-28-2019, 07:16 PM
Can't see any difference from Sunni Turks in Kardzali.

Alevi's scores 20-22 WA. Sunni's scores 15-17.

Karaton
04-28-2019, 07:19 PM
Alevi's scores 20-22 WA. Sunni's scores 15-17.

You need hell lotta samples to come up with such conclusion. That much of difference is just regular.

Kaspias
04-28-2019, 07:19 PM
You need hell lotta samples to come up with such conclusion. That much of difference is just regular.

I have 62 samples.

Karaton
04-28-2019, 07:23 PM
I have 62 samples.

From Kardzali? I doubt.

Just show me 10 Sunni Bulgarian Turks and 10 Alevi Bulgarian Turks from same region.

Kaspias
04-28-2019, 07:25 PM
From Kardzali? I doubt.

Just show me 10 Sunni Bulgarian Turks and 10 Alevi Bulgarian Turks from same region.

~20 in Kardzhali. I have 4 Alevi from Kardzhali. ~5 Alevi from Central Bulgaria.