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Sikeliot
06-19-2011, 12:25 AM
Classify and tell where she could fit.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GOJP6BkWmXY/SaRbu0BsD0I/AAAAAAAALDw/WVF_u8od_MA/s400/ElenaPaparizou.jpghttp://www.helenapaparizou.com/images/helena3.jpghttp://images1.fanpop.com/images/quiz/13904_1213707629625_440_427.jpghttp://www.cashboxmagazine.com/covers/HelenaPaparizou.jpg

GeistFaust
06-19-2011, 12:27 AM
Classify and tell where she could fit.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GOJP6BkWmXY/SaRbu0BsD0I/AAAAAAAALDw/WVF_u8od_MA/s400/ElenaPaparizou.jpghttp://www.helenapaparizou.com/images/helena3.jpghttp://images1.fanpop.com/images/quiz/13904_1213707629625_440_427.jpghttp://www.cashboxmagazine.com/covers/HelenaPaparizou.jpg

Gracile East Med with Pontic influences I could see her fit into Bulgaria, Romania, or Turkey she is South Balkan in my honest opinion.

Arne
06-19-2011, 12:40 AM
Gracile East Med with Pontic influences I could see her fit into Bulgaria, Romania, or Turkey she is South Balkan in my honest opinion.

I agree with Bulgaria, turkey and add Middleast.
she don´t look that gracile..
her proportions aren´t balanced.
Looks more like a Man.

She´s a dinarized Turanid.

GeistFaust
06-19-2011, 12:50 AM
I agree with Bulgaria, turkey and add Middleast.
she don´t look that gracile..
her proportions aren´t balanced.
Looks more like a Man.

She´s a dinarized Turanid.

I see nothing Mongoloid or Iranid about her.

Sikeliot
06-19-2011, 12:52 AM
To me she looks like a lot of Romanian women I've seen so I'd be interested if the Romanian posters here can see it too.

Arne
06-19-2011, 12:53 AM
I see nothing Mongoloid or Iranid about her.

Could pass easily into the group of middle easterners.

GeistFaust
06-19-2011, 12:56 AM
Could pass easily into the group of middle easterners.

I would say if any group in the middle east most likely Levantines.

Sikeliot
06-19-2011, 01:11 AM
Could pass easily into the group of middle easterners.

Not so much Levantines but more like Armenians/Georgians I think.

hajduk
06-19-2011, 08:40 AM
Dinaric + East med. Could fit in Bulgaria and other balkan countries, but not as typical

Foxy
06-19-2011, 08:53 AM
I agree with Bulgaria, turkey and add Middleast.
she don´t look that gracile..
her proportions aren´t balanced.
Looks more like a Man.

She´s a dinarized Turanid.


Could pass easily into the group of middle easterners.


Not so much Levantines but more like Armenians/Georgians I think.

She's nothing at all Middle Eastern looking, don't believe this bitch that continues to post pics of Southern Europeans with a strange look to make Portugueses appear less "exotic". This woman fits in the Balkans and in Greece, the most exotic that she could pass for is a white Turk, which are Greeks and slavs.
True Libanese people look like Arabs, except a small Europized minority.

TRUE LEBANESES:

http://www.lcnj.com/images/LebDem/3.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41331000/jpg/_41331504_woman_afp416.jpg

http://cdn.wn.com/ph/img/6f/9b/fa780113aa45d546d9e1699b52e9-grande.jpg

I am still asking myself why she choosed to classify this Greek singer when in Greeks there are millions of people with a far more normal look too. :rolleyes:

Greek singer Anna Vissi:

http://www.europopmusic.eu/Images/Greece_images/Vissi_images/Vissi_1.jpg

She's very good in selecting pictures...

Turkophagos
06-19-2011, 09:47 AM
Med + Taurid (Dinarid or Armenoid, not sure about it). Other than Southern Europe, she could fit well in Israel, not Iran or any Arabic countries.

GeistFaust
06-19-2011, 01:22 PM
Med + Taurid (Dinarid or Armenoid, not sure about it). Other than Southern Europe, she could fit well in Israel, not Iran or any Arabic countries.

Good job with identifying the Taurid I was going to say it but did not think it was significant enough.

Nurzat
06-19-2011, 01:36 PM
she wouldn't fit outside southern romania... don't generalize over the country, romania is at the crossroads between balkans (south romania), eastern europe (moldavia) and central europe (banat, transylvania, bucovina etc), historically, culturally and mostly genetically. see alexander varzari (http://edoc.ub.uni-muenchen.de/5868/1/Varzari_Alexander.pdf)'s and m. stefan (http://www.mendeley.com/research/y-chromosome-analysis-reveals-sharp-genetic-boundary-carpathian-region/)'s studies for that... romania is very different between its eastern european, balkanic and central european regions in matters of looks. no meds would pass in my region for instance but in south romania they are mostly bulgarian-northgreek looking.

paparizou is not attractive at all. can't compare her to the israeli girl aherne posted. the israeli girl is what i call the mediterranean ideal of beauty. paparizou is just a turko-greek in looks

Hess
06-19-2011, 01:38 PM
she wouldn't fit outside southern romania... don't generalize over the country, romania is at the crossroads between balkans (south romania), eastern europe (moldavia) and central europe (banat, transylvania, bucovina etc), historically, culturally and mostly genetically. see alexander varzari (http://edoc.ub.uni-muenchen.de/5868/1/Varzari_Alexander.pdf)'s and m. stefan (http://www.mendeley.com/research/y-chromosome-analysis-reveals-sharp-genetic-boundary-carpathian-region/)'s studies for that... romania is very different between its eastern european, balkanic and central european regions in matters of looks. no meds would pass in my region for instance but in south romanian they are mostly bulgarian-northgreek looking

Atrox could I fit in Romania? :p

Nurzat
06-19-2011, 01:44 PM
Atrox could I fit in Romania? :p

in Oltenia i think

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Oltenia.svg/300px-Oltenia.svg.png

Turkophagos
06-19-2011, 01:49 PM
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_444/12554509770wG7jJ.jpg


Atrox, could he fit in Romania?

Nurzat
06-19-2011, 01:49 PM
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_444/12554509770wG7jJ.jpg


Atrox, could he fit in Romania?

he is mirel radoi, from oltenia, where they are greek-bulgarian looking

from the romanian national team, dorin goian is from my region (bucovina)
http://euro2008.onlinesport.ro/uploads/images/romania/goian.jpg

Blossom
06-19-2011, 01:52 PM
she wouldn't fit outside southern romania... don't generalize over the country, romania is at the crossroads between balkans (south romania), eastern europe (moldavia) and central europe (banat, transylvania, bucovina etc), historically, culturally and mostly genetically. see alexander varzari (http://edoc.ub.uni-muenchen.de/5868/1/Varzari_Alexander.pdf)'s and m. stefan (http://www.mendeley.com/research/y-chromosome-analysis-reveals-sharp-genetic-boundary-carpathian-region/)'s studies for that... romania is very different between its eastern european, balkanic and central european regions in matters of looks. no meds would pass in my region for instance but in south romania they are mostly bulgarian-northgreek looking.

paparizou is not attractive at all. can't compare her to the israeli girl aherne posted. the israeli girl is what i call the mediterranean ideal of beauty. paparizou is just a turko-greek in looks

True. I've been travelling around Romania and I could notice how different is south from north part talking about people, pigmentation, and phenotype.

In south you can find lot of Meds mixed with Dinarids mostly. About Center and North, Pontid-Meds, Pontid-Baltids and even East Nordids. At least that's what I've seen. :)

Hess
06-19-2011, 01:59 PM
in Oltenia i think

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Oltenia.svg/300px-Oltenia.svg.png

Why, is that where all the Africans live? :embarrassed

Nurzat
06-19-2011, 02:05 PM
Why, is that where all the Africans live? :embarrassed

north romanians have a saying: "South from Milcov is Africa."

milcov is a river that divides moldavia (east romania) from wallachia (south romania)

and to answer your question, well i only answered your question, which was where would you fit, and you would fit in Oltenia. here is a guy from oltenia. doesn't he resemble you?
http://zing.ro/imagini/stirisportive/cornel%20penescu%20ramine%20fara%20maybach-113744.jpg
http://www.pitesteanul.ro/files/2010/03/penescu48.jpg

Hess
06-19-2011, 02:07 PM
north romanians have a saying: "South from Milcov is Africa."

milcov is a river that divides moldavia (east romania) from wallachia (south romania)

Just out of curiosity, would you say that on average, Romanians are lighter than Bulgarians?

Nurzat
06-19-2011, 02:09 PM
Just out of curiosity, would you say that on average, Romanians are lighter than Bulgarians?

it is obvious when you meet the hristo stoichkovs... but southern romanians don't differentiate from bulgarians, they are the same. the difference is in central and north romania

see this, hess
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=442027&postcount=20

GeistFaust
06-19-2011, 02:10 PM
it is obvious when you meet the hristo stoichkovs... but southern romanians don't differentiate from bulgarians, they are the same. the difference is in central and north romania

I think that they are but not necessarily it depends on the region where they come from.

Turkophagos
06-19-2011, 02:17 PM
Bulgarians aren't homogenous either. Average Romanian is darker than the average Bulgarian of Rodhope.

Hess
06-19-2011, 02:17 PM
it is obvious when you meet the hristo stoichkovs... but southern romanians don't differentiate from bulgarians, they are the same. the difference is in central and north romania

see this, hess
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=442027&postcount=20

:eek:
Oh come on, I'm not anywhere near that swarthy :mad: :mad:
That guy is much darker than me

Blossom
06-19-2011, 02:20 PM
Bulgarians are just like South Romanians, in fact you cant distinguish them too well. I am very sure about this because I see them pretty often as workers in Spain and most Romanians working in Spain are from the south (pred. pontid-dinarid meds), correct me if I'm wrong, Atrox, south Romania is poorer than the north/center.

Bulgarians tend to be darker than average Romanians. Been to both places.

hajduk
06-19-2011, 02:22 PM
Where in Bulgaria have you been?

Blossom
06-19-2011, 02:24 PM
Where in Bulgaria have you been?

Vidin, Pleven, Silistra, Varna, Sofia, Pernik, Haskovo. Hope I'm not missing any county.

edit: And Targovishte! We got a nice mess since there was also a romanian city called like such! :D We were like: Wait a minute...

hajduk
06-19-2011, 02:30 PM
Vidin, Pleven, Silistra, Varna, Sofia, Pernik, Haskovo. Hope I'm not missing any county.

edit: And Targovishte! We got a nice mess since there was also a romanian city called like such! :D We were like: Wait a minute...



Pleven Sofia Pernik are relatively bulgarian towns,

Targovishte is really big mess because half of the population is muslum, vidin majority gypsy, varna big turkish, armenian, gypsies, jewish communities

Nurzat
06-19-2011, 02:32 PM
Bulgarians aren't homogenous either. Average Romanian is darker than the average Bulgarian of Rodhope.

maybe you only saw south romanians (half of the romanian population i guess lives in the south). south romanians are indeed dark, just like bulgarians and greeks and look particularly balkanic

Blossom
06-19-2011, 03:28 PM
Pleven Sofia Pernik are relatively bulgarian towns,

Targovishte is really big mess because half of the population is muslum, vidin majority gypsy, varna big turkish, armenian, gypsies, jewish communities

Then what you guys consider bulgarian from all your bulgarian lands? :confused:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Regions_of_Bulgaria_Map.png

Been to almost all the counties...so...I guess I saw enough. They tend to have pretty slaviced traits too but most(but not all) of them are darker than average romanians, counting Romania as larger country and phenotypes are pretty diverse from North to South.

hajduk
06-19-2011, 03:37 PM
nevermind. think whatever you want

Blossom
06-19-2011, 03:39 PM
nevermind. think whatever you want

I'm not discussing with you, of course I'll think whatever I want, since I've been there, but, in any case, this doesnt bother me too much, so dont worry, I wont insist! :)

Sikeliot
06-19-2011, 04:32 PM
She's nothing at all Middle Eastern looking, don't believe this bitch that continues to post pics of Southern Europeans with a strange look to make Portugueses appear less "exotic". This woman fits in the Balkans and in Greece, the most exotic that she could pass for is a white Turk, which are Greeks and slavs.
True Libanese people look like Arabs, except a small Europized minority.

TRUE LEBANESES:

http://www.lcnj.com/images/LebDem/3.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41331000/jpg/_41331504_woman_afp416.jpg

http://cdn.wn.com/ph/img/6f/9b/fa780113aa45d546d9e1699b52e9-grande.jpg

I am still asking myself why she choosed to classify this Greek singer when in Greeks there are millions of people with a far more normal look too. :rolleyes:

Greek singer Anna Vissi:

http://www.europopmusic.eu/Images/Greece_images/Vissi_images/Vissi_1.jpg

She's very good in selecting pictures...


Please learn to read. I didn't say she looked Lebanese nor do I even think she does. Either way you're wrong in assuming I intentionally decided to post someone 'exotic' because I thought she looked Romanian (!) if anything so I appreciate that you keep your accusations to yourself.

Matritensis
06-19-2011, 04:53 PM
Super-über-hottoid.She could fit very nicely in my bed.

Portukalos
07-11-2011, 11:42 PM
I was about to make this thread xD we have same ideas cmariexo! She looks EastMed+Dinarid I would say.

Falkata
07-11-2011, 11:44 PM
She looks turkish to me. Exotic look...

Comte Arnau
07-11-2011, 11:52 PM
Don't get why such a fuss. She looks very Greek to me.

memobekes
03-21-2012, 12:48 AM
Hundreds of thousands of Greeks took to the streets when Elena Paparizou won the Eurovision Song Contest in 2005.

On that famous evening in Kyiv, she swept to victory with an astonishing 230 points.

She has a special place in the hearts of Greeks and deserves a classification.

_________________________

She was born in Sweden to Greek parents. Dark brown hair, light brown eyes. Pred. Ponto-Mediterranean?

http://im.in.com/connect/images/profile/sep2009/Elena_Paparizou_300.jpg

http://u1.ipernity.com/11/43/83/4724383.e604c4de.560.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Cyrx4Bz4bLc/TlRNI9n_lKI/AAAAAAAACRo/c6zcckYiw5w/s1600/ElenaPaparizou.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/22/helenapaparaizou_wideweb__430x340,1.jpg

GeistFaust
03-21-2012, 12:50 AM
Dinaro-Mediterranid with an Alpinoid-Pontid influence in my opinion.

Europa
03-21-2012, 12:50 AM
East Med/Alpinoid.

Europa
03-21-2012, 12:51 AM
Memo,since when you are Greek?:eek:

brunette
03-21-2012, 12:51 AM
Lol that bleached/red hair doesn't suit her one bit she looks alot prettier with dark hair.

Alpine Med Pontid.

brunette
03-21-2012, 12:52 AM
Memo,since when you are Greek?:eek:

Lol he's just pretending to be that guy Hellenas off anthroscape.

memobekes
03-21-2012, 12:53 AM
Lol that bleached/red hair doesn't suit her one bit she looks alot prettier with dark hair.

Alpine Med Pontid.

I agree she looks so much classier with her natural hair let down.

But, jeez, she has talent. :D

King Claus
07-01-2013, 03:55 PM
pontid-gracile med with alpinid.

Sikeliot
07-01-2013, 03:59 PM
She looks fairly Balkan to me.

Constantine13
07-01-2013, 05:19 PM
north romanians have a saying: "South from Milcov is Africa."

milcov is a river that divides moldavia (east romania) from wallachia (south romania)

and to answer your question, well i only answered your question, which was where would you fit, and you would fit in Oltenia. here is a guy from oltenia. doesn't he resemble you?
http://zing.ro/imagini/stirisportive/cornel%20penescu%20ramine%20fara%20maybach-113744.jpg
http://www.pitesteanul.ro/files/2010/03/penescu48.jpg



That guy looks almost like a Mestizo. I've noticed quite a few Romanians like this. The Atlanto-Med from the south combines with the Neo-Danubian (and occasional Mongoloid) to give off a "Hispanic" vibe.

Sikeliot
08-29-2013, 03:30 AM
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/2009+MTV+Europe+Music+Awards+Arrivals+_xZDhZx1JoAl .jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/16876717/Elena+Paparizou.jpg
http://www.thegreekz.com/gallery/files/2/3/1/8/4/0/43054elenapaparizouingl.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg/270px-Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg
http://www.tombraider4u.com/elena-paparizou.jpg

Constantine13
08-29-2013, 06:16 AM
Something's odd about her. Something doesn't match. Like, maybe she's had some plastic surgery done.

Pontios
08-29-2013, 06:17 AM
She's Pontian by the way. :P

Constantine13
08-29-2013, 06:18 AM
Armenoid with her nose chopped off?? LOL

StonyArabia
08-29-2013, 06:25 AM
Anatolia, Armenia, Israel, Lebanon, Syria basically the East-Med

Gorštak
08-29-2013, 06:27 AM
I didn't saw her for a while.
She was better looking before.

Trun
08-29-2013, 06:36 AM
Anatolia, Armenia, Israel, Lebanon, Syria basically the East-Med

Trying to make the sand niggas whiter as usual :rolleyes:

Turkophagos
08-29-2013, 08:03 AM
Israel.

Sikeliot
08-29-2013, 02:26 PM
She's Pontian by the way. :P

I always thought she had a strange look. Now I know why :lol:

Hadouken
08-29-2013, 02:27 PM
balkan

would smash

Pleurat
08-29-2013, 02:28 PM
Looks very serbian, especially in the last 2 photos.

Ice
08-29-2013, 02:31 PM
Turkey

Ibericus
08-29-2013, 02:34 PM
Balkans

Maximum Speed
08-29-2013, 02:58 PM
Look balkan




Anatolia, Armenia, Israel, Lebanon, Syria basically the East-Med

no, they are brown

justme
08-29-2013, 03:44 PM
She looks Turkish....

Pleurat
08-29-2013, 03:45 PM
She looks Turkish....

Not at all.

Sikeliot
08-29-2013, 03:49 PM
She looks Romanian to me if I have to pick something else.

alb0zfinest
08-29-2013, 03:50 PM
I think no where else. She has a very Greek look to her.

YeshAtid
08-29-2013, 03:52 PM
Naples

justme
08-29-2013, 03:55 PM
Not at all.

She does look Turkish look at her properly. Omg.

Sikeliot
08-29-2013, 03:57 PM
Some Turks look Balkan so she probably could pass, but "looks Turkish" as in stereotypically so, I don't see it.

Pleurat
08-29-2013, 03:58 PM
She does look Turkish look at her properly. Omg.

She looks serbian or romanian, not turkish, go and make a visit in turkey. There are turkish girls who look liker her but saying that this is turkish look it is ridiculous.

ALSh
08-29-2013, 03:59 PM
Spain and Italy

Azalea
08-29-2013, 04:01 PM
She looks serbian or romanian, not turkish, go and make a visit in turkey. There are turkish girls who look liker her but saying that this is turkish look it is ridiculous.

No one would question her ancestry if she said she was Turkish. She could fit in all Turkish regions easily. Besides the point, if she is really Pontian Greek, then she shares most of her ancestry with the people from Turkey, not with Balkans.

Anyway, she doesn't look Turkish specifically. She looks just Pan-EastMed to me.

Pleurat
08-29-2013, 04:02 PM
No one would question her ancestry if she said she was Turkish. She could fit in all Turkish regions easily. Besides the point, if she is really Pontian Greek, then she shares most of her ancestry with the people from Turkey, not with Balkans.

Of course.

YeshAtid
08-29-2013, 04:03 PM
Your poll's slightly dodgy

riverman
08-29-2013, 04:06 PM
Your poll's slightly dodgy


Yep, there should be more Slavic areas and less of those western choices, she doesn't look western.

Anthropologique
08-29-2013, 04:06 PM
Balkans. Has a somewhat South Slav appearance. Slightly Turanid.

YeshAtid
08-29-2013, 04:07 PM
Yep, there should be more Slavic areas and less of those western choices, she doesn't look western.

Italy should also be divided

justme
08-29-2013, 04:07 PM
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/2009+MTV+Europe+Music+Awards+Arrivals+_xZDhZx1JoAl .jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/16876717/Elena+Paparizou.jpg
http://www.thegreekz.com/gallery/files/2/3/1/8/4/0/43054elenapaparizouingl.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg/270px-Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg
http://www.tombraider4u.com/elena-paparizou.jpg

Omg look at her properly look at her eyes.. Especially on the second last picture... She looks Turkish.

Anthropologique
08-29-2013, 04:10 PM
Spain and Italy

She's too eastern looking to pass in Spain. S. Italy is a possibility. However, the best fit is in the Balkans.

justme
08-29-2013, 04:18 PM
She's too eastern looking to pass in Spain. S. Italy is a possibility. However, the best fit is the Balkans.

She can't fit into Kosovo.

Azalea
08-29-2013, 04:24 PM
The only picture in which I think she looks very Turkish is this one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg/270px-Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg

In the others she looks just Pan-EastMed.

Constantine13
08-29-2013, 04:32 PM
The only picture in which I think she looks very Turkish is this one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg/270px-Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg

In the others she looks just Pan-EastMed.


She doesn't look like the Turks I've seen. Most Turks are very easy to spot because of the their unique admixture. It's funny, I've never been to Turkey in my life and I can almost always pick out the Turkish customers who come into my work.

ariel
08-29-2013, 04:32 PM
Look balkan





no, they are brown

east med are typical for the eastern med coast aka levant, only if we are talking about the levantine natives and not about the muslim arab population.

have a nice day and stop trolling levantines.

Pleurat
08-29-2013, 04:35 PM
east med are typical for the eastern med coast aka levant, only if we are talking about the levantine natives and not about the muslim arab population.

have a nice day and stop trolling levantines.

lol

ariel
08-29-2013, 04:36 PM
lol

what are so funny?

justme
08-29-2013, 04:45 PM
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/2009+MTV+Europe+Music+Awards+Arrivals+_xZDhZx1JoAl .jpg

http://www.tombraider4u.com/elena-paparizou.jpg

Lol she even looks very Turkish in these two.

Constantine13
08-29-2013, 04:48 PM
Weren't Hebrews (Semito-Armenoid tribes) not native to the Levant either? I believe much of their lineage goes back to Egypt, Mesopotamia before that, and likely even farther out before that.

madridi4verrr
08-29-2013, 04:51 PM
Eastern Med could fit in Afghanistan, North Pakistan, Azerbaijan, North Iraq, the Levant, Turkey, Cyprus, Greece and Malta.

Sikeliot
08-29-2013, 04:53 PM
Eastern Med could fit in Afghanistan, North Pakistan, Azerbaijan, North Iraq, the Levant, Turkey, Cyprus, Greece and Malta.

I very strongly disagree with this. She'd stand out greatly any place on this list except the latter four (and even that, I question if Turkey is a good fit either).

ariel
08-29-2013, 04:53 PM
Weren't Hebrews (Semito-Armenoid tribes) not native to the Levant either? I believe much of their lineage goes back to Egypt, Mesopotamia before that, and likely even farther out before that.

you are based your theory on the biblical story.

the history telling us totally different things.the ancient israelites were a canaanite natives who creat a new identity and religion.

but, have not such thing as semites and this proved by genetic .

Constantine13
08-29-2013, 04:59 PM
you are based your theory on the biblical story.

the history telling us totally different things.the ancient israelites were a canaanite natives who creat a new identity and religion.

but, have not such thing as semites and this proved by genetic .


The bible isn't BS, it's metaphorical and esoteric. It's been around so long for a reason.

And anthropology backs this up. Many Jews are Semito-Armenoids, not only "East Meds" (native/eastern Atlantos).

madridi4verrr
08-29-2013, 04:59 PM
I very strongly disagree with this. She'd stand out greatly any place on this list except the latter four (and even that, I question if Turkey is a good fit either).

She could pass doesn't mean as typical , but they could pass as Atypical .
Cerainly , she does fit in some areas better than others ...
The best places she can fit in in my opinion : Greece - Turkey - Malta & the Levant ( Lebanon - Syria - Palestine/Israel )

Ibericus
08-29-2013, 05:06 PM
She's East-med + pontid

ariel
08-29-2013, 05:07 PM
The bible isn't BS, it's metaphorical and esoteric. It's been around so long for a reason.

And anthropology backs this up. Many Jews are Semito-Armenoids, not only "East Meds" (native/eastern Atlantos).

have not such thing as semite anthropologically...

and jews is not a clear term which jews?

ashkenazi jews?

sephardic jews?

ethipian jews?

riverman
08-29-2013, 05:10 PM
She could pass doesn't mean as typical , but they could pass as Atypical .
Cerainly , she does fit in some areas better than others ...
The best places she can fit in in my opinion : Greece - Turkey - Malta & the Levant ( Lebanon - Syria - Palestine/Israel )

Hmm "atypical" isn't a good term for these types of threads imo, it's too vague and subjesctive. If you write that someone can fit in your ethnicity etc. the rest of us assume the look is somewhat typical.

justme
08-29-2013, 05:24 PM
One thing for sure is she can't pass as Albanian.

Azalea
08-29-2013, 05:50 PM
She doesn't look like the Turks I've seen. Most Turks are very easy to spot because of the their unique admixture. It's funny, I've never been to Turkey in my life and I can almost always pick out the Turkish customers who come into my work.

It's funny how the members here can spot Turks better than Turks themselves. There are so many diaspora Turks here, just ask them for how many ethnicities they have been mistaken by Turks themselves and others. There is no unique mixture in us Turks that makes us look very different. The only difference in Turks is that there is Mongoloid admixture. In most regions this is around 7% and not enough to make a big difference (i.e, to make us stick out that much). Anyway, to repeat what I said, I don't think Helena Paparizou looks particularly Turkish, but I would not question her background for a minute if she said she was. However in that particular picture, she does look very Turkish and if I saw here here (Netherlands) I would probably assume she is a Turk.

PlanA
08-29-2013, 06:03 PM
Some Turks look Balkan so she probably could pass, but "looks Turkish" as in stereotypically so, I don't see it.

Can you post 4-5 Turkish girls pictures that look stereotypical Turkish according to your internet experience?

Hadouken
08-29-2013, 06:55 PM
Eastern Med could fit in Afghanistan, North Pakistan, Azerbaijan, North Iraq, the Levant, Turkey, Cyprus, Greece and Malta.

lol this is so wrong i dont even know where to start

she looks southeast european and thats it

madridi4verrr
08-29-2013, 07:48 PM
lol this is so wrong i dont even know where to start

she looks southeast european and thats it


Her pheneotype is very common in the levant , and anyone living there would confirm that , some south european overlap with levantine , I don't what you find so wrong ?

Hadouken
08-29-2013, 08:03 PM
Her pheneotype is very common in the levant , and anyone living there would confirm that , some south european overlap with levantine , I don't what you find so wrong ?

levant is maybe acceptable to compare with southern euros but not the other especially north pakistan and north iraq ?

like i said she looks se european ....serbian or something

Constantine13
08-29-2013, 08:14 PM
Her pheneotype is very common in the levant , and anyone living there would confirm that , some south european overlap with levantine , I don't what you find so wrong ?

Not black enough.

Turkophagos
08-29-2013, 08:27 PM
Med-Armenoid mix, she's more typical for Israel than any Balkan country.

ariel
08-29-2013, 08:37 PM
Not black enough.

nice trolling dude.nobody said she can pass as arab muslim levantine, but as ethnic levantine

east med levantines

http://imageshack.us/a/img541/3620/01ka.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5553/2857u.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img194/7749/yazbek.png

madridi4verrr
08-29-2013, 08:38 PM
levant is maybe acceptable to compare with southern euros but not the other especially north pakistan and north iraq ?


The girl on the post
http://www.thegreekz.com/gallery/files/2/3/1/8/4/0/43054elenapaparizouingl.jpg

Mezhgan Hussainy : Afghan
http://i2.listal.com/image/1027185/936full-mezhgan-hussainy.jpg

Northern Pakistani
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U3uHI2DKU0o/TpjR-mZ4CpI/AAAAAAAAGH4/gniSDJY5bGE/s400/2.jpg

Mozhdah Jamalzadah : Afghan
http://www.mozhdahmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/moz38.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/vvNGZGAHUtTl.jpg

Lebanese
http://kathynajimy.com/images/kathy_headshot.jpg
http://www.saidaonline.com/newsgfx/yara66-saidaonline.JPG

justme
08-29-2013, 08:39 PM
Sorry but I still think she looks Turkish... She defiantly doesn't look Serbian... Maybe a tiny tiny bit. But she looks more Turkish, in fact it's just not one photo she looks Turkish but three photos and I do see Levantine in her looks.

One thing for sure is that she can never pass a Albanian.

On one of the pictures she looks like she had too much Botox.

StonyArabia
08-29-2013, 08:40 PM
Trying to make the sand niggas whiter as usual :rolleyes:


I am not even Levantine, it's the truth she can pass in the East-Med. Did I say Jordan, Iraq or Saudi Arabia No

MfA_
08-29-2013, 08:42 PM
Looks like Cypriot+Armenian mutt..

Hadouken
08-29-2013, 08:45 PM
The girl on the post
http://www.thegreekz.com/gallery/files/2/3/1/8/4/0/43054elenapaparizouingl.jpg

Mezhgan Hussainy : Afghan
http://i2.listal.com/image/1027185/936full-mezhgan-hussainy.jpg

Northern Pakistani
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U3uHI2DKU0o/TpjR-mZ4CpI/AAAAAAAAGH4/gniSDJY5bGE/s400/2.jpg

Mozhdah Jamalzadah : Afghan
http://www.mozhdahmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/moz38.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/vvNGZGAHUtTl.jpg

Lebanese
http://kathynajimy.com/images/kathy_headshot.jpg
http://www.saidaonline.com/newsgfx/yara66-saidaonline.JPG

i know afghans and pakistanis really well since i have seen a lot

on average they dont look like that at all

nice cherry picking

this girl looks balkan and thats it

Ice
08-29-2013, 08:46 PM
Afghans i've seen look "whiter" than iranians..

madridi4verrr
08-29-2013, 08:52 PM
i know afghans and pakistanis really well since i have seen a lot

on average they dont look like that at all

nice cherry picking

this girl looks balkan and thats it


Afghanistan is one of the must diverse countries in term of look ( You have Nuristanis , Pashtuns , Farsiwans , Hazaras ETC.... ) , I don't know how do you see the average look .

Hadouken
08-29-2013, 08:54 PM
Afghanistan is one of the must diverse countries in term of look ( You have Nuristanis , Pashtuns , Farsiwans , Hazaras ETC.... ) , I don't know how do you see the average look .

i know ....i have a hazara friend :D

by average i mean the people i have seen in my life

yes there are afghan women who look like this elena girl but that doesnt mean that she fits there well ....i know turks who look like germans ...does that mean that a german can fit in turkey ? lol

justme
08-29-2013, 08:58 PM
i know afghans and pakistanis really well since i have seen a lot

on average they dont look like that at all

nice cherry picking

this girl looks balkan and thats it

When you say "Balkan" what do you mean by it...? Cause one thing for sure is that she defiantly doesn't look south Slavic or Albanian.

She looks Turkish-Levantine.

madridi4verrr
08-29-2013, 09:02 PM
yes there are afghan women who look like this elena girl but that doesnt mean that she fits there well ....

Certainly Not , read again my posts , I said that she can pass there as atypical , but in my opinion she fits the best in countries with a predominant eastern med pheneotype such as the levant .

Pleurat
08-29-2013, 09:11 PM
I do not understand some fuckers who have voted Albania or FYROM because she does not feet at all, especially as albanian.

justme
08-29-2013, 09:16 PM
I do not understand some fuckers who have voted Albania or FYROM because she does not feet at all, especially as albanian.

She looks Turkish... LMAO..

Sikeliot
08-29-2013, 10:52 PM
She looks Balkan as can be. I quite literally see nothing Middle Eastern of any kind, even if she is Pontian.

kabeiros
08-29-2013, 11:14 PM
She could be Sicilian, S/Italian, Maltese, Bulgarian, Romanian, Armenian, Turkish, S/Jew.... East Med with Pontid and Alpine influence

kabeiros
08-29-2013, 11:17 PM
She looks Balkan as can be. I quite literally see nothing Middle Eastern of any kind, even if she is Pontian. Pontians do not look Middle Eastern, get your facts straight.

Sikeliot
08-29-2013, 11:22 PM
Well she can pass in Armenia, Turkey, Georgia but I do not think she passes in the Levant.

randomguy1235
08-29-2013, 11:24 PM
She looks Greek/Turkish in my opinion. She could pass in the Levant as well, but atypically because of her phenotype; Her completion/skin pigmentation is very common in the Levant

justme
08-30-2013, 12:21 AM
She looks Balkan as can be. I quite literally see nothing Middle Eastern of any kind, even if she is Pontian.

Balkan as in what? Cause she defiantly doesn't look South Slavic or Albanian...

Sikeliot
08-30-2013, 12:49 AM
Balkan as in what? Cause she defiantly doesn't look South Slavic or Albanian...

Romania more like it.

alb0zfinest
08-30-2013, 12:52 AM
Like I said, she looks Greek. I can't see her fitting in with any other ethnicity.

wvwvw
08-30-2013, 12:56 AM
She could easily pass in Turkey. Romania no

justme
08-30-2013, 01:01 AM
Romania more like it.

She does NOT look Romanian at all.

Hellenas
08-30-2013, 10:21 AM
With white natural skincolor...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lPXFkLOccc4

http://cdn.thebest.gr/media/images/frontNews/bbuhnetqjl4c88c6cf003dc.jpg

http://www.music.net.cy/assets/image/news_imagelarge/paparizou_elena2013.jpg

http://www.musiccorner.gr/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/paparizou_2013_05_01.jpg

http://static.pblogs.gr/f/227129-12.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DG0-Y0W1MBg/TBfbvcY0r-I/AAAAAAAAAHo/wYePEifkbTE/s320/__1244720842.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FDGrpOQozlY/TzdGDDSjiyI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/UsV0dc2fb44/s640/paparizou24.jpg

Eleni "Elena" Paparizou[1] (Greek: Έλενα Παπαρίζου, pronounced [ˈelena papaˈrizu], born 31 January 1982, usually referred to abroad as Helena Paparizou, is a Greek–Swedish singer, occasional songwriter and television personality.

Elena Paparizou was born on 31 January 1982 in Borås, Västergötland, Sweden, the youngest child of Greeks immigrant parents Georgios Paparizos and Efrosyni "Froso" Paparizou.[4] Her parents both originate from the Karditsa region, with her father being from a nearby village, Oxya.[5]

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/89/5e/895e9295caf4377a1b216daca03b1aab.jpg?itok=ZPyGrCac

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Paparizou

THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE
(by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki)

Author: Constantinos Triantafyllidis *

• The Neolithic human populations were moved from Europe to the Near East9. It is estimated that a 5% -20% of mitochondrial DNA sequences of the present inhabitants of the Near East has a European origin. Prospective population for this flow mitochondrial DNA are the Greeks and Phrygians.

9. Richards M. et al. (2000). Tracing European founder lineages in the Near Eastern mtDNA pool. Am. J. Human Genetics 67: 1251.

* Emeritus Professor of Genetics and Human Genetics - Department of Biology, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki.

Read more: http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/44/updated-dna-inhabitants-greece#ixzz2dRhlJanp

DNA Tribes® SNP Admixture Results by Population
www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-admixture-2012-03-12.pdf

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/EuropeanMiddleEasternAdmixture.jpg

Near & Middle Easterners partially Europeans
http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/97/near-middle-easterners-partially-europeans

just
09-10-2013, 02:14 AM
East-Meditterranid + Alpinid.
I also love her!

Ianus
02-20-2014, 06:49 PM
Atlantopontid, South Europe

safinator
02-20-2014, 10:03 PM
Med + Alpinid

Sikeliot
10-08-2014, 03:08 PM
http://www.thegreekz.com/gallery/files/2/3/1/8/4/0/43054elenapaparizouingl.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg/640px-Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg
http://gfx2.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/13535588/485/normal/7382cfc8fce93/papaTOPP.jpg

Tooting Carmen
10-08-2014, 03:10 PM
Italy, Iberia and maybe some Near Eastern countries

-Nicola-
10-08-2014, 03:10 PM
Bosnia, Albania, Tureky, Kosovo and maybe in some other Southeastern European countries.

Hadouken
10-08-2014, 03:12 PM
Albania

Instinct
10-08-2014, 03:12 PM
A real Greek woman.

She can pass Greece, Turkey, Armenia.

Faklon
10-08-2014, 03:21 PM
She could be a kourabie in these pictures.

Casandrinos
10-08-2014, 04:00 PM
She is better looking than you

http://www.tlife.gr/files/Image/NEWS/2010/JULY/07-01/Elena_Paparizou2003.jpg

http://www.musiccorner.gr/images/sony/paparizou_29.jpg

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23100000/Helena-Paparizou-helena-paparizou-23174568-390-290.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVyGVKEC0t3mu4RWYV9laUKetPxCzGk CclR7VuEluRdgQ-l5VV

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yMJ7AET3MsQ/SkR70x95n8I/AAAAAAAAAiI/apgAO8GZ0Lk/s400/paparizou

Pontid-Gorid-Taurid?

pass in Turkey and Euro-Med countries

Sikeliot
04-26-2015, 04:16 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Paparizou_Ivi_Fruitea_1.jpg
http://www.i-live.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/th-elena-paparizou-exwdiko-mavridi.jpg
http://4lyrics.eu/wp-content/uploads//2015/02/elena-paparizou_lead.jpg
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/NewMusic/ElenaPaparizou2.jpg
http://www.thegreekz.com/gallery/files/2/3/1/8/4/0/43054elenapaparizouingl.jpg

Hadouken
04-26-2015, 04:17 PM
Balkan

could be Serb or something

Pahli
04-26-2015, 04:18 PM
Balkans, maybe Turkish too, I've seen few Turkish girls with similar looks

karimi
04-26-2015, 04:24 PM
Looks like that girl that al pacino marries in godfather when he's in Sicily. His friends in the movie say that she looks more " greka" than "italiano".

Sikeliot
04-26-2015, 04:27 PM
Looks like that girl that al pacino marries in godfather when he's in Sicily. His friends in the movie say that she looks more " greka" than "italiano".

That comment never made sense to me considering Sicilians have significant Greek ancestry.

pelikarski
04-26-2015, 04:29 PM
2011
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?28796-Elena-Paparizou-Greek-singer
2012
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?44513-Elena-Paparizou
2013
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?91521-Besides-Greece-where-does-Elena-Paparizou-fit
2014
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?142654-Where-can-Elena-Paparizou-pass-outside-of-Greece

Just about time for 2015 thread for Elena

aljohnson
04-26-2015, 04:38 PM
you wish "Near Eastern" people would look like that LOL

Sikeliot
04-26-2015, 04:42 PM
2011
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?28796-Elena-Paparizou-Greek-singer
2012
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?44513-Elena-Paparizou
2013
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?91521-Besides-Greece-where-does-Elena-Paparizou-fit
2014
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?142654-Where-can-Elena-Paparizou-pass-outside-of-Greece

Just about time for 2015 thread for Elena


See, one every year. Nothing wrong with that. New membership and all.

karimi
04-26-2015, 04:45 PM
you wish "Near Eastern" people would look like that LOL

Idk man, does he? She's not attractive at all and has bad body proportions. I'm sure she's nice though.

Roy
04-26-2015, 04:48 PM
I've seen Serbian women with her look so I say Balkan.


Idk man, does he? She's not attractive at all and has bad body proportions. I'm sure she's nice though.

She's good looking I think. There are different tastes though.

Hadouken
04-26-2015, 05:01 PM
I find her hot too

but we have enough hot women and not envying anybody :coffee:

Sikeliot
04-26-2015, 06:56 PM
Others?

Trun
04-26-2015, 06:59 PM
Italian and Maltese.

Longbowman
04-26-2015, 07:00 PM
See, one every year. Nothing wrong with that. New membership and all.

You should be bumping. I'll merge.

Sikeliot
04-26-2015, 07:05 PM
You should be bumping. I'll merge.

Make sure this poll stays up top.

jatt
04-26-2015, 07:39 PM
PrettY lady Could b Serbian scythiAN

Seth MacFarlane
04-27-2015, 06:08 AM
Seen a couple of Serb models recently who look like her , east med alpine. It could be the stronger alpine influence in Eastern Europe then in southern Italy that makes her fit there better

The Blade
10-02-2016, 10:10 PM
Dinarid + East Med. Could pass here but not as typical (much more of a Greek look, imo).
I like some of her songs and find her to be a good looking woman:
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/24800000/Helena-Paparizou-helena-paparizou-24811558-1024-768.jpg

Hoxhaism
10-02-2016, 10:12 PM
she can pass as albanian i think, but not typical

Danaan
10-02-2016, 10:41 PM
PrettY lady Could b Serbian scythiAN

That's an offense.

Freeroostah
10-02-2016, 10:54 PM
She belongs in the Balkan category(Bulgaria, Serbia, etc) but in my opinion she could pass in every other country listed

Freeroostah
10-02-2016, 10:56 PM
she can pass as albanian i think, but not typical

I dont think she would make that much difference among the Albanians.

Enflamme
10-02-2016, 10:57 PM
Dinarized Pontid, not East-Med to me

de Burgh II
10-02-2016, 11:00 PM
Dinarized Pontid, not East-Med to me

http://dovga.com/images/original/gif_9062.gif

CommonSense
08-25-2018, 10:17 PM
East-Med + Dinarid. Intermediate look between Europe and Western Asia.

Tauromachos
08-25-2018, 10:55 PM
She belongs in the Balkan category(Bulgaria, Serbia, etc) but in my opinion she could pass in every other country listed



To me she looks like a lot of Romanian women I've seen so I'd be interested if the Romanian posters here can see it too.

Hahaha she is Pontic Greek i think

Ekjee
09-21-2024, 06:21 AM
Romania more like it.

Seeing this thread, makes me think romanian seem to look very "exotic" in general.
Don t get why some assumed I was one.

reboun
09-21-2024, 06:48 AM
Anatolid

Florstadt
09-21-2024, 06:56 AM
Classic Greek nose.

https://cdns-images.dzcdn.net/images/artist/77c2a68946a0c62ae5a3a74a4c05dc38/1900x1900-000000-80-0-0.jpg