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Mikael19
04-30-2019, 09:15 PM
They are predominantly tadjik or pashtun, there is one or two hazaras or uzbeks in their To. Where do they pass?

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Mikael19
04-30-2019, 11:34 PM
Bump

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 09:54 AM
Anyone no?

Oghuz
05-01-2019, 10:06 AM
Iranid / Irano Nordoid
Irano Afghan
Pamiri

One has Turanid admixture.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 10:08 AM
Iranid / Irano Nordoid
Irano Afghan
Pamiri

One has Turanid admixture.

Thanks man, do they pass better in Iran or North caucasus?

lameduck
05-01-2019, 10:14 AM
Iranids,Pontid,irano Afghan ,Pamirids one turanid

Many Afghans remind me of North Caucasians

They fit best on Iranian plateau imo

Oghuz
05-01-2019, 10:21 AM
Thanks man, do they pass better in Iran or North caucasus?

In Iran

In Alborz range and Khorasan region.

Afghans are Iranics so they fit in Iranic plateau.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 10:22 AM
Iranids,Pontid,irano Afghan ,Pamirids one turanid

Many Afghans remind me of North Caucasians

They fit best on Iranian plateau imo

Do any of them pass in non Northern Pakistani areas?

Which one is turanid? Becsude I see 2 turanid and 1 Mongoloid

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 10:23 AM
In Iran

In Alborz range and Khorasan region.

Afghans are Iranics so they fit in Iranic plateau.

Are Dinarics and Iranics+ pamirid similar?

lameduck
05-01-2019, 10:26 AM
Do any of them pass in non Northern Pakistani areas?

Which one is turanid? Becsude I see 2 turanid and 1 Mongoloid

Tbh non look typical for eastern part of country , they have very Iranian plateau type look.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 10:33 AM
Tbh non look typical for eastern part of country , they have very Iranian plateau type look.

They do look very iranic but I wouldn't be suprised if a few of them would be mistaken for an Albanian. Are Dinarics related to iranics?

lameduck
05-01-2019, 10:44 AM
They do look very iranic but I wouldn't be suprised if a few of them would be mistaken for an Albanian. Are Dinarics related to iranics?

There are some metrical similarities between iranids and dinarids.

Oghuz
05-01-2019, 10:47 AM
Are Dinarics and Iranics+ pamirid similar?

IMO no they are not similar.

Iranid phenotype has an elongated skull with robust jawline. Irano Pamiri is just Iranid influenced by Turanid, Aralid.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 03:01 PM
One more fighter added

Truth Preacher
05-01-2019, 03:52 PM
Irano Afghans, Pontids some with Aralid influence some more robust ones with CM.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 04:02 PM
Irano Afghans, Pontids some with Aralid influence some more robust ones with CM.

Thanks bro, which countries do they pass? Excluding the hazara and Uzbek one?

The third fighter has Turanid influence but I don't think he is an Uzbek, the fourth fighter looks like a mixture of uzbeki and tadjik or pashtun

Truth Preacher
05-01-2019, 04:06 PM
North Pakistan, Iran, Caucasus, guy in pic 7 could be latino.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 04:36 PM
North Pakistan, Iran, Caucasus, guy in pic 7 could be latino.

I think a handful could pass in balkans too imo

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 08:26 PM
Anymore?

ixulescu
05-01-2019, 08:42 PM
I think a handful could pass in balkans too imo

they actually would, but caucasus is a better fit.

they also look more northern than most iranid phenos.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 09:18 PM
they actually would, but caucasus is a better fit.

they also look more northern than most iranid phenos.

I think the reason is because we have more steppe admixture? Also Afghanistan is more mountainous than Iran considering its size.

In admixture oracle's we usually get modelled as 60-70% burusho or pashtun Pakistan and 30-40% North Caucasian. Thats for Pashtuns that is. For Tajiks I do not know but I know that Tajiks from afghanistan like badaxsan, panjshir etc are similar to tadjik pamiris and Pashtuns.

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We also cluster quite closely to North caucasus populations and Northern Pakistanis rather than Middle East, you can see we are more northern.(red dot)

Fibonacci
05-01-2019, 11:23 PM
I think the reason is because we have more steppe admixture? Also Afghanistan is more mountainous than Iran considering its size.

In admixture oracle's we usually get modelled as 60-70% burusho or pashtun Pakistan and 30-40% North Caucasian. Thats for Pashtuns that is. For Tajiks I do not know but I know that Tajiks from afghanistan like badaxsan, panjshir etc are similar to tadjik pamiris and Pashtuns.

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We also cluster quite closely to North caucasus populations and Northern Pakistanis rather than Middle East, you can see we are more northern.(red dot)

That doesn't even make sense, Iranians are a lot closer to caucasians than afghans so having more steppe is not the reason why some of these afghans overlap with some caucasians.

Chaos One
05-01-2019, 11:34 PM
Burusho at MDLP 23:

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 38.46
2 South_Indian 26.25
3 Caucasian 9.74
4 Ancestral_Altaic 6.78
5 South_East_Asian 5.36
6 Tungus-Altaic 4.88
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 4.44
8 East_Siberian 2.30

Kalash:

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 59.47
2 South_Indian 14.64
3 Ancestral_Altaic 7.73
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.08
5 Caucasian 5.67
6 East_Siberian 2.83

Now the point on it

Yaghnobi

1 South_Central_Asian 32.81
2 Caucasian 26.24
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.27
4 Ancestral_Altaic 9.69
5 South_Indian 5.38
6 Near_East 4.14
7 South_East_Asian 2.02
8 European_Early_Farmers 1.92
9 Arctic 1.70

aaaand

Tajik

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 21.96
2 South_Central_Asian 21.49
3 South_Indian 10.05
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.63
5 Ancestral_Altaic 7.85
6 Tungus-Altaic 6.96
7 South_East_Asian 4.44
8 East_Siberian 4.28
9 Near_East 3.32
10 North_African 1.91
11 Austronesian 1.84
12 Paleo_Siberian 1.47
13 European_Early_Farmers 1.37
14 Amerindian 1.02


Tajiks can have more Caucasian than South Central Asian overall speaking. That's why they overlap.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 11:35 PM
That doesn't even make sense, Iranians are a lot closer to caucasians than afghans so having more steppe is not the reason why some of these afghans overlap with some caucasians.

Possibly yes. Iranians are alot closer to southern Caucasians like Armenians and Georgians than North Caucasians.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 11:37 PM
Burusho at MDLP 23:

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 38.46
2 South_Indian 26.25
3 Caucasian 9.74
4 Ancestral_Altaic 6.78
5 South_East_Asian 5.36
6 Tungus-Altaic 4.88
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 4.44
8 East_Siberian 2.30

Kalash:

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 59.47
2 South_Indian 14.64
3 Ancestral_Altaic 7.73
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.08
5 Caucasian 5.67
6 East_Siberian 2.83

Now the point on it

Yaghnobi

1 South_Central_Asian 32.81
2 Caucasian 26.24
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.27
4 Ancestral_Altaic 9.69
5 South_Indian 5.38
6 Near_East 4.14
7 South_East_Asian 2.02
8 European_Early_Farmers 1.92
9 Arctic 1.70

aaaand

Tajik

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 21.96
2 South_Central_Asian 21.49
3 South_Indian 10.05
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 9.63
5 Ancestral_Altaic 7.85
6 Tungus-Altaic 6.96
7 South_East_Asian 4.44
8 East_Siberian 4.28
9 Near_East 3.32
10 North_African 1.91
11 Austronesian 1.84
12 Paleo_Siberian 1.47
13 European_Early_Farmers 1.37
14 Amerindian 1.02


Tajiks can have more Caucasian than South Central Asian overall speaking. That's why they overlap.

But Pashtuns also overlap with Caucasians too.

Chaos One
05-01-2019, 11:39 PM
But Pashtuns also overlap with Caucasians too.

Probably some have more Caucasian than others. In fact they are more close to a Tajik than a Burusho.

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 11:40 PM
Probably some have more Caucasian than others. In fact they are more close to a Tajik than a Burusho.

I don't think that's the case, if you look at burushos and kalash, they have alot of types that could overlap with Northern Caucasians. I don't think this calculator is useful for central Asians anyways.

Chaos One
05-01-2019, 11:44 PM
I don't think that's the case, if you look at burushos and kalash, they have alot of types that could overlap with Northern Caucasians. I don't think this calculator is useful for central Asians anyways.

Burusho at Harappa:

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 41.85
2 S-Indian 23.06
3 Caucasian 11.49
4 NE-Euro 8.89
5 NE-Asian 6.38
6 Siberian 5.16
7 SE-Asian 1.72

Dodecad K12

1 Gedrosia 43.44
2 South_Asian 24.85
3 North_European 10.58
4 Caucasus 8.10
5 East_Asian 6.34
6 Siberian 4.37
7 Southeast_Asian 1.87

Gedrosia K12

1 S_INDIAN 30.71
2 BALOCHI 22.94
3 CAUCASUS 15.98
4 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 11.24
5 SE_ASIAN 5.42
6 W_SIBERIAN 5.27
7 SW_ASIAN 3.62
8 INDO_TIBETAN 2.86
9 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 1.85

Mikael19
05-01-2019, 11:45 PM
Burusho at Harappa:

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 41.85
2 S-Indian 23.06
3 Caucasian 11.49
4 NE-Euro 8.89
5 NE-Asian 6.38
6 Siberian 5.16
7 SE-Asian 1.72

Dodecad K12

1 Gedrosia 43.44
2 South_Asian 24.85
3 North_European 10.58
4 Caucasus 8.10
5 East_Asian 6.34
6 Siberian 4.37
7 Southeast_Asian 1.87

Gedrosia K12

1 S_INDIAN 30.71
2 BALOCHI 22.94
3 CAUCASUS 15.98
4 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 11.24
5 SE_ASIAN 5.42
6 W_SIBERIAN 5.27
7 SW_ASIAN 3.62
8 INDO_TIBETAN 2.86
9 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 1.85

Do you their k9 asi?

Chaos One
05-01-2019, 11:50 PM
Do you their k9 asi?

I think they took it off from Genesis.

Mikael19
05-04-2019, 08:41 PM
2 more fighters added

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